#sure he was more ordinary texan. involved in community to an extent. pta meeting here and there
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a thing i firmly stand by ( in my interpretation ). joel isn't redeemable. in his own eyes there's nothing to redeem and everything was justified.
#tbd.#edit* i ended up rambling again#on that same note he is not the perfect dad / mentor#hell some days he's mostly terrible#he hasn't been a father for well over a decade and has no urge to start again. or in his own words 'over'#the point is. his first instinct is to be cautious of anyone and everyone#regardless.#i could ramble about all the things he's been through post outbreak and the horrid shit he saw and took part in#but uh to bring it back some#the bond he built with ellie is exclusive#just like everyone else he trusted and or came to love#it was founded off particular and special circumstances#and he needs a lot of motivation to really care about someone#i believe most of his acquaintanceships started with him benefitting in some way. not necessarily mutualism but if it happened that way#then it happened that way#ALSO some of the demeanor he possesses now can be traced back prior to the outbreak#sure he was more ordinary texan. involved in community to an extent. pta meeting here and there#but he's led his life by making his own way stubbornly and is very protective of his own family#the virus created a space for more of his primal traits to flourish. a lot like the infected
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