#sunny 15x02

[hethey-charliekelly]

i’m certainly not the first to say this but by god. the first two episodes of s16 blew me away. like … i really liked season 15 but there is a very clear winner between 15x01/15x02 and what we saw last night. almost undoubtedly.

again, not the first person to say this but i really do think the podcast has helped tremendously. even though they’ve all rewatched the show here and there, i seriously doubt that rcg had long, extended, really in depth conversations about the early seasons. not only that, but they get to do it together. they get a space to discuss with each other what they like and don’t like about their show. and i think it reflects in this season.

in my opinion, season 13 and 14 (save for a few episodes) really just lost the plot. this also applies to season 15, but to a lesser extent. i think everyone on the show got so caught up in the grandiosity of the later seasons that they kept trying to make their episodes bigger and broader and so much of it just fell flat. they lost the heart of the characters and their show in the bigness of it all, and i think with season 16 they’re returning to basics.

so… just thanks to the pod for existing, i guess. i think these critical discussions about the heart of the show by rcg, fostered by meg who has nothing but love and reverence for the show, have made season 16 seem to be an homage to everything we love about sunny. hoping and praying that the rest of the season holds up to it.

[cosmoseinfeld]

it's still sending me how they had DENNIS say "they weren't mistakes. they were violent sexual crimes." he knows right from wrong. he knows creepy behaviour and he doesn't condone it.

[dennislookingatmac]

[gubler-garbage]

[dammitcastiel]

it's always sunny and south park constantly get grouped together as like offensive shows that don't shy away from dark humour or whatever but the way the two shows handle their own history of racism and their own mistakes is so different and sooo telling of how rcg(+k) versus how matt & trey view themselves, their roles as writers/creators with large audiences, and what i guess the "goal" of their work is - and of the two shows, iasip is the one that feels insincere

like compare iasip's lethal weapon 7 episode (15x02) and south park's most recent episode "the big fix" (25x02): sunny was trying to say sorry but instead of actually just doing that, the characters were constantly saying shit to remind us that "hey look! we're woke now; we know what's not cool to say and what we said? That’s Not Cool" as if they hadn’t done blackface and yellowface literally a season ago lmao. literally the only good part of that ep was artemis

meanwhile south park just spent 20 incredibly self-aware/tongue in cheek minutes retconning a 25-year-old racist joke (the only black kid in the class was named Token Black but sike! his name was actually Tolkien this entire goddamn time!) by straight up “gaslighting” the audience like "well fucking duh. obviously that was racist that we wrote that but consider this: what if that's actually your fault because it's youuuu who's racist. check and mate. fuck you, you racist piece of shit!" and it works soo much better than sunny’s clearly reluctant apology or whatever the hell that was

[costanzian]

Yeah like has Megan Ganz written some horribly racist shit and the rest of the writers of the show signed off on it? Yeah. But the dudebros hating on her like "I blame Megan Ganz! She ruined the show!" are also like. Completely incorrect, because they hate on her for the wrong reasons. They just resent the fact that Sunny is hiring minority writers now (like 15x02 has a black woman as a co-writer and you bet dudebros will hate it) instead of valid criticisms for the show's depictions of bigotry.

yeah, they’re just gonna complain about how keyonnas ruining sunny even though she’s a really really talented writer, and their idea of a good show is one that’s just outwardly racist.

[curswine]

I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"

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I just watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 15x02 "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7"