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Whenever fanfiction has Dean say he hates Cas’s coat or thinks it's stupid or ugly and he wants to see Cas out of it as soon as possible I simply must disagree. He kept that thing for a whole year full of rank water. He saw Cas back in his usual getup and gotar bonar. Dean loves cartoons. He loves costumes. He loves Cas’s coat.
#he wants to jerk off on it. who said that.#he wants to jerk off on it both on the outside (marking his territory) and on the inside (intimate and defiling.).#he wants to wear the coat and nothing else and jerk off and then give it back to Cas while it's still warm from his body.#idk who said that must have been the wind#this is a passing thought I haven't seen this recently#Dean does ALSO very much enjoy seeing Cas dressed up but he LOVES base Cas who wears the same outfit every day#am i projecting because I always dismiss when cas is described in other clothes and imagine him in the trench coat anyway. yes.#but there is textual evidence that dean likes the coat#also his 'you think it's crappy 🥺' 'eye of the beholder' comment#even if he DID think Cas's coat was lame. which he doesn't!!! he could never say it to him
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trans headcanons of the winchesters are always extremely fun to play around with and i can see most of them. but one that always rings slightly false to me, despite a love for it due to self-identification and the fact it’s definitely interesting, is transmasculine dean. simply because if you’re going according to canon this would require him to have transitioned at some point prior to johns death, probably much prior, probably as a youngish kid. and i genuinely do not think that ever could’ve happened. he values johns approval too much and is too scared of demanding too much of him.
like even aside from whether john is Actually transphobic (i doubt he’s like Cartoonishly transphobic he probably would be annoyed by it slash not care much, interpret ‘not caring’ however you want) just the whole Thing of coming out where you’re like. “Hey dad im actually a human person who has an internal sense of self and such that doesn’t happen to be You 2.0 and am not the gender you thought i was and i feel emotions to such an extent that i actually like need to transition”…….
no fucking way dean would ever be able to do that to john while he’s still alive. please. teenage transmasculine dean would be like Well yeah sure i want to be a guy but that’s not an option for me whatsofuckingever. and crucially he’d be like that even if he knew entirely about trans people. now this is why transfemme dean works so well. because you just know it would take her at least thirty years to even consider it for a singular second.
on the other hand transmasc sam works so well because you can picture teenage transmasculine sam realising he’s a boy and promptly making it part of the whole entirely justified and very cool and fun teen angst rebellion FUCK YOU DAD thing. he could let spite carry him to the point of coming out. dean? he is burying that shit deep.
#Idk there’s still stuff to play with i find really interesting#at the end of the day it’s like. canonly dean buries everything about himself and just takes on the shape of his dad dads music dads car#dads jacket dads anger etc-#dean is expected to be a certain way. and he becomes very good at that certain way#he’s playing the role his father decided for him long after his fathers dead#i think a theoretically transmasc dean while still just as determined to prove himself and like. into hunting and probably vaguely the#machismo of it all too like canon dean. i think he would still very much as a teenager play into the whole eldest daughter mary 2.0 (more#than in canon he’s already mary 2.0 but he’s also meant to be john 2.0)#like transmasc dean would bury it and keep performing badass Tough Chick femininity#obviously after transitioning he’d be just like canon dean but he’d have to get to the point of transitioning first Which would take foreve#dean conforms to the role john expects he does what he thinks is needed of him#hence why it’s so hard to imagine a younger him transitioning. transition is a deviation from that tightly plotted role#Hence why in canon maybe transitioning would save her because it would inherently mean she’s gotten over some shit!#ANYWAY. gender in spn is so interesting#dean winchester#trans dean winchester#I still love transmasc headcanons though ofc#spn#oliver talks
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hate when i see a spn fic about What If after despair they could bring cas back but it was endverse cas. you dont care about normal castiel? you think normal castiel sould be in an empty nightmare dimension and never get out? we are kicking you out of destiel forever
#endverse cas becoming so hated by me for this. he existed for one day my man normal castiel did everything for 12 years#and some think dean would not still very much kill himself if he couldnt see the man he loves again#just bc there's some guy with the same face who only shares ONE YEAR of their memories together. out of 12. what about their kid...#supernatural#thing#destiel
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Irks me a little bit whenever Dean torturing in Hell is positioned as his own fault, or even really his choice to do. We get given the solid number, 30 years of torture for him and 10 inflicting it on other people (which was also more torture for him because it’s Hell, the torture evolves, it doesn’t stop), and we get told that wasn’t long enough. That John held out longer. That angels were going to pull Dean out of Hell and if he’d just held on a few years more, the seal wouldn’t have been broken.
But that isn’t true, right? We know Heaven wanted the seal broken, ergo Dean wasn’t getting saved until it was. Until it, and he, we’re thoroughly broken and usable by Heaven to achieve their own ends (ie to make him into a good (obedient) Michael sword.) So, it wouldn’t have mattered how long he held out in Apocalyptic terms because the game (that he didn’t know he was playing) was rigged against him.
But more importantly for Dean, the amount of time he managed not to break literally does not matter. Because it was never going to be long enough. Thirty years, forty, a hundred, a thousand, it does not matter how long he held out because the breaking itself is the unforgivable part to him and the breaking was always inevitable.
Anyway. There’s my Dean meta for the year. Eat up, I guess.
#despite this being brought out by that prev post I’m not like. actually annoyed or anything.#we’re all free to interpret the show however. I just think this way brings out the tragedy of it best is all.#you know it’s like. did Dean & Sam technically both have choices in s4? did they technically make the wrong ones? yes.#but at the same time. there was never a choice. there was never an option to avoid the apocalypse. especially with how little they knew#of what was actually going on over their heads. like. it really is insane to go rewatch s4 and realize how much they don’t understand about#what’s happening around and to them. and that’s the part I like best! it was unavoidable! they will still blame themselves forever!#what’s the thing called where you like both brothers. bibro? that’s me.#samgirl with bibro tendencies.#if you ever see me speak negatively about dean know that it’s because I love those things about him actually.#I like when he’s possessive and self-destructive and terrible. I just think. in this particular instance. this was not him embodying#a character flaw. so much as it was him being forced into his role in the story in a very like. visceral literal sense.#I could go into the Michael-Dean ‘what does it mean that of the two vessels it’s not Lucifer’s sent to hell but Michael’s’ thing but#maybe save that for another day. I have thoughts I’m just tired.#spn#dean winchester
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Breaking my silence: Orpheus and Eurydice myth is more applicable to Sam and Cas' predicament in s6 rather than to Dean and Cas. Because it's a story about the retrieval of the soul.
I mean, there's definitely no romantic aspect to it but Cas fancy himself a bit of a demigod/son of Apollo, goes to Hell/Hades to rescue Sam/Eurydice/Soul, doesn't succeed, goes back to earth, fall in love with a guy who rejects him, goes crazy, rejects Dionysus as his god (!!!) and then he dies torn into pieces by the women who felt scorned because he only favored men.
I MEAN.
I MEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAN.
The myth is there so the👏people👏are👏right but I don't see it the same way as most people do. It's true that the myth is ancient and has many variations but, like, the basis are still the same, so it's not about Cas and Dean. Well, no, it's about them too actually!!! but not in the sense that Dean is Orpheus and Cas is Eurydice. But in the sense that Cas goes crazy for many reasons and Dean is the biggest one of them and he gets punished for it. I THINK.
#this will never be a sastiel blog. sorry. but also. it makes more logical sense this way#“hero goes to the underworld to rescue soul and is unsuccessfull” gives very much cas and sam vibes#of course this is only according to my mind and her endeavours to make sense of unexplained things in spn#unexplained things in spn: cas singlehandedly saved sam from the cage lol without realizing the guy was soulless. okay!#but. like. i think it works better than cas and dean as eurydice and orpheus#sooooorryyyyy. STILL destiel though#like..no matter how you spin it destiel is STILL there#ISN'T THIS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN BORING ORPHEUS AND EURYDICE LUKEWARM LOVE STORY?#isn't it actually what really counts? lol#destiel as betrayal#myths we live by#spn#spn s6#castiel#dean winchester#destiel
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just saw someone saying that jared's acting in spn was bad... gonna commit heinous crimes
#they said i can't believe we suffered through such bad acting for the sake of dean and cas's storyline only for destiel to not be full canon#WHAT THE FUCK ????????#WHAT THE- WHAT THE FUCK#and then they tagged it 'j*red badalecki' OH MY FUCKING GOD#THAT'S SO STUPID AND IMMATURE FIRST OF ALL#jared is 100% one of the best actors on the show#no doubt#i genuinely... oh my god#destiel fans will be so fucked to the point that they'll use it as a reason to hate on not only sam but also jared ???#i'm sorry i hate supernatural fans so much wow#love you guys in our normal fun little corner of this website!!#. >> mari says shit !#and i'm not saying that jared is like my fav person and that you can't be critical of him or his acting#i just hate the way they went about it#it was very very stupid and unnecessarily#i don't care if you don't like him i just think y'all could come up with better constructive criticism <3#also there are bound to be bad acting moments#there's fifteen seasons of it straight like... it happens#can we just not be fuck ass bitches about it???#like... felicia day's acting was not great#do i still love charlie so much?? yes !#i do!#do i care?#no! i do not!#because i know how to be normal about things#:D anywayssss#this is like one of the least important horrible things about the spn fandom but i'm just getting increasingly bothered by this fandom
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............................................. I'm regretfully writing a fanfic.
It's not gonna be big, but dialogue has been running in my head 24/7 and if I don't write it down I'll explode. Writing is a fun break from drawing besides and I genuinely feel like slowly dissecting other characters is helping me revisit my original stories, and dissect my own characters and bring more continuity and subtlety into them.
#FUCK ALL OF YOU YOU ENABLED ME#i'm kidding i genuinely love you all#but GOD FUCKING DAMNIT#these two just have far too much fun dialogue and since i've been casually watching while i draw its given me more of a character basis to#work off of#and this is like junk food for my soul#the more I write garbage the better I get at writing my own stuff#but the fandom still scares the shit out of me#given I also have a younger brother its fun to examine their relationship and see some parrallels to my own experience#and how family differs from friendships in the dynamic#you get way more baggage from their shared experience growing up#and where they diverge from each other's mindset and approach and how its shaped from the difference in their Older sibling Younger sibling#experiences which is a critical component when they have fights#anyway Dean being the huge “I'M COOL FUCK THE SYSTEM I DO MY OWN THING” then immediately shifting to “yessir three bags full sir”#in 0.5 secconds never gets old#and Sam's perpetual frustration at this hypocrasy sends me#given Sam's entire existense is based around him genuinely wanting to do his own Thing VS Dean tricking himself into going down his own pat#but they both still have that childhood need to be fullfilled by their parents and IF THAT AINT RELATABLE#but they both tackle it so differently due to circumstance#anyway tldr: sibling dynamics fun as hell you go from seamlessly working with each other#to having a massive squabble so fast its very entertaining
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i'm sorry but romantic wincest will NEVER do it for me
#i do not like the idea that sam and dean are “in love” sue me#but! there are fics with ~romantic~ vibes that i've still enjoyed#it doesn't feel very accurate though#what they have is so much more complicated and interesting#intense desire unhealthy obsession all consuming need#i know some people can write all those things + romantic love#but eh. it doesn't always work for me
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I MISS MY BOYFRIEND AAAAAAH! AHHH!! horrors of having the most fucked up college and work schedules and cursed w health problems the both of us
#was gonna go this weekend but he has a thing and i could still go but. i slept a LOT yesterday and today i have so much work it's just not#going to be fun if i go and he goes out and im doing work at his house. miss him soooooo fuckig bad tho :( where are my kissies.#i am in dire dire need of kissies.#its also to a point where i fucking ADORE his stepbrother and miss him a lil too. m you're one of the girls and the gays to me#my god. he could be better but he's also shockingly well-adjusted given. the way that his dad is.#we r the only two people in the family who know that he experimented w guys and. silly but very sad he loves 'teenage girl movies'#i NEED to watch mean girls with him and also supernatural and i need to very carefully watch his expression when dean does anything#meaning that im not 100% sold on him not being bi. he told us he doesnt think anything is wrong w gay people in the quietest voice#im gonna kill! his! dad!#his one glaring issue is we think we have a pass to say SEVERAL words and won't listen on 'you're gonna get beat up' but i digress.
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hello! happy wincest weds! can you name a wincest fic you read that really just STUCK to you, and tell us why? one of those stories that just burrowed into your brain. you think about it during your quiet moments, haunted.
hi, hallo, happy wincest wednesday --
can i
cAN I?
yeah, a few, and I'm just gonna kind of ramble:
Moths on the Mirror by fleshflutter -- pretty much the only amnesia fic I need for this fandom. First of all I think it has my favorite non-con scene ever, which is great, but also I just really love how the management of information is done through Dean's super drugged POV -- how much we know what's happening around him, or not -- how much he clearly yearns for Sam's presence even if he can't quite -- fix on why. Dr Harrison smiling at Dean just -- has a special place in my heart.
also by fleshflutter, this bit of porn: No one loves me (not like you do) which seems like it's just porn qua porn, and it gets in and out of the situation with a minimum of fuss (but a maximum of jizz), but the 'twist' (such as it is) really hits. It doesn't need to be more believable than that because it's <2k but boy, does it do the job.
On the other side of the door from squishy done-unto Dean flesh!porn we've got another doozy that really sticks in my brain: in this change sought our bliss, by denugis. It's too bad about what happened after s9, because this very specific vibe of Sam and Dean just really -- makes my heart sing. He gives Sam his glitter dick. What could compare?
Relatedly, a very clever and somewhat surprising entry from the same author, Two Part Invention. I think this is the first time I saw a fic author admit that actually it was Sam who would have the harder time quitting hunting -- this is something that feels obvious to me at this point, but this fic draws out a great scenario for how it'd go. Something about Dean miserably behind the bar -- Sam skulking in and pretending like he's not desperate (oh, the things Sam wants and the things Sam wants to want) -- really put this in my top 25 fics of all time.
#answers#happy wincest wednesday#very different writers#and tbh if i went back and read the whole fleshflutter oeuvre#idk how much of it i would still love#especially given how wibbly her dean often is#but it's nice to have a sam with both a dick and a spine#he's vanishingly rare in fandom these days#so salutations always flesh#we appreciate your work and wish you'd come on home
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Honestly I think Dean Highbottom has some shit to answer to as well. The mockery, the derision, the outright admittance that he was hoping Coriolanus would fail and the Snow family would continue to suffer. How someone who loathed the Games still treated a young man with cruelty because of the past, because of social divides that would be so easy to tear down. In the end, it wasn’t just Gaul who shaped Snow into the man he became. So bitter and hateful. So incapable of compassion and forgiveness. Just like his father. Just like his Dean.
#like yeah there were a lot of things questionable about Snow even before he was chosen as a mentor in the games#but like. damn. you didn’t even consider the idea he could be better than his father did you?#the way kindness could have unravelled some of the hate in Snow’s heart#listen to me tell you the horrible things your father did. listen to me tell you that you can be different. you are not the past.#the divides between us do not truly exist. look at the weapon in your hand. it is real. and it can do real damage#but if you never hate someone - if they never fool you into letting violence into your heart - they can never make you use it#it breaks my heart. how could you hate a ghost so much that you’d kill a child. I don’t know. but the Dean does. and so does Snow.#the cycles run and run until somebody stops. and burns some bread. and shares berries. and takes an arrow. and says no more. I love you#it is difficult. it could hurt me. it could be the very last thing I do. it may not even serve me well. but I love you. I love. always.#how pathetic hate makes you. how strong love makes you. like staring at the Dean and staring at characters like Haymitch#like two substance abusing men who know the system inside out. who are complicit. who are victims. both embittered and angry.#but one saw a child and decided to punish him for the past#and the other saw a child and decided - okay. it’s been 23 years. my heart hurts. I want to give in. I want to hate you. I want to not care.#I’m going to care anyway. I’m in so much pain. It’s killing me. I’m going to care anyway. about you both. it won’t be perfect. but I care.#and I’ll be here through hell. and I will fuck up. so fucking badly. because I’m still addicted and angry and god knows I have suffered.#god knows these hands are bloody and they always will be. but I will keep coming back. I will keep trying. I will still love.#and in the end I will write names in a book that belongs to you and I will find a little bit of peace in a house where the sun shines#and the geese make ridiculous noises in the yard. and love will have seen me through.#HAYMITCH YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS I LOVE YOU MY IMPERFECT DARLING#dean highbottom#coriolanus snow#the hunger games#a ballad of songbirds and snakes#haymitch abernathy#thg#abosas#suzanne collins#SHE WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS
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so many people can’t conceptualise emotional neglect as anything other than ‘my parents were cold and distant and never talked about feelings with me’, and this, while being just a general awful problem of course, is also what leads to so much john winchester mischaracterisation. in this essay i will
#like. it can also be#a parent who you’re close to who is actually extremely emotional and explosive and reactive#and via forcing you to look after their emotional needs and spilling their problems all over you also teaches you that your feelings qrs re#unimportant and that you’re unimportant. even if they dont necessarily mean to or they dont with their words!#anyway i’m sure john winchester was a mix of the two#but my point is like. God this applies to so much actually#there’s this incredibly pervasive idea that damaging parenting has to be like. i dunno. distant somehow#your parents don’t love you. you’re not close to your parents#and obviously that IS damaging but it’s not the only way a parental relationship can be damaging… far from it#and a lot of what makes john so interesting to me is he DOES love the boys. of course he does#and he isn’t some hyper repressed incredibly macho figure either like some people characterise him#he’s warm with the boys when we see him in s1. sure he turns all his emotions into anger but it’s always very clear he Has deep emotions.#everything he does is powered by ‘love’#(theoretically).#like. hes obviously close with dean. he even has strong ideals about parenting when he starts off (see 70s era john disgusted at how future#john actually raised them lol).#and he’s still extremely abusive and neglectful and damages sam and dean soooo much. like. all that can coexist#and it’s such a disservice to flatten his character and pretend it doesn’t#plus it just offends me. like come on.#idk i guess a lot of people like to project their own bad experiences onto john and it’s not like i’m saying they shouldn’t do that#but. characterisation wise#he’s awful in a very specific way#spn#john winchester#oliver talks
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i do get making cas essentially human i understand that he can adjust to it and actually enjoy life like that. but um. i just think he can be just as fulfilled as a full blown angel
#human cas fics fuck severely they go hard#but i cant really vibe with cas like. just ''being human'' endgame#cos we already know no matter if he can fly no matter if he has grace he won't BE human that's an entirely different species ya dig#if the show was normal about non-human creatures being people as much as humans are#i probably wouldn't mind as much? but the show is very very sucky about that so#they scratch the surface on nonhumans being capable of like. fear and hopelessness and love.#and instead of really having salmondean explore this they just. forget about it and maybe the cycle restarts in another motw ep#ik it probably aligns with the overall copification of those 2 and it makes me so full of malice...#what im saying is cas is decidedly other. a creature an incredibly powerful one.#and i think it really shows that him not being human separates him from them. he's not as trusted#even after 12 years :/ it's kinda easy to oust him cos he keeps relationships with heaven.#which brings me to the whole ''oh fuck angels we hate angels oh but um not you cas!!'' thing like bro he's still an angel#you pick which monsters u find worthy of redemption but never fully accept them for what they are and discard em pretty easily#so yeah i think having cas be graceless is interesting and even makes sense but ig it just seems too easy on the winchesters#they never had to really accept cas as a full powered angel cos honestly they way they remember it#cas at full power wings in tact was just an asshole and he was barely ever back to that: comfortable in his prime after like s7 wtv#once it's all over and done with i think it'd be cool if cas could have all his wings and power in tact and just be at peace like that#he's an angel but he doesn't have to be a soldier anymore he can quite literally do anything now whole point of free will#and yeah he can choose to be graceless sure but he can never be human anyway. physically at his core he's something Else and i think#dean should have to like. live with that tbh#they never have to REALLY tackle the ''monsters are people too'' aspect and angel cas endgame would prove that regardless#he IS family. they dont NEED him to be an angel to USE him but regardless he is what he is and#they are fine with him not being human because he's family and they love him who cares what you are.#cos in cas' mind he needs his power to be useful but also he cannot truly be part of them while he is noticeably Other due to their bias#this is true for other characters obviously jack rowena crowley#sam's whole thing with benny 💀#but this is a cas post and i haven't watched the show in years so this isn't like. a cited essay lmao just ramblings#in short i just want cas to be fully angel while not feeling he HAS to be for others' sake and have the brothers be genuinely cool with it#cas my best friend cas#cas studies
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what if i say bunker era sam listens to ✨💋 Straight Girl 💅🍷 relationship podcasts with such hot tips as "he doesn't load the dishwasher? leaves his socks everywhere? Withhold sex that'll get him! 🤣" "ugh ladies don't you hate that he still smiles at the young waitress at the diner! He says he's 'just being friendly' but we know, we know don't we girls?" 🥴
#mid-lates dean is the kind of guy that gets annoyed when his wife asks 'do you still love me?' in the middle of the night#yes he genuinely does! but he should go down on her more#he is very very adaptable and also getting what he wants (sammy time) so i can see him getting complient#even taking into account how much they suffered to get there#just needs a little nudge from baby bro and the love shack will shake once again 😌
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they are actively making jensen ackles worse. keep going
#sjonnie.text#im screaming he got a dean shirt😭😩#i love when actors and artists and musicians still very much love their breakthrough piece or their first creation yknow?#like harry styles with WMYB its just so fun to see when theyre still actively in love with whatever they did/made and how it still puts a#smile on their faces
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My understanding from dash osmosis is that demon Dean's main activities were:
1. Being super mean to the guy who's in love with him
2. Having what I can only assume is Really bad sex with some waitress
3. Seeing how cyrrhotic you can get a liver when your body won't die
#spn rewatch for your blacklist#In other words still very much Dean Winchester#Also pity he was just a normal demon (?) instead of a knight#Love the idea of being one of the most indestructible beings in all creation and being deeply suicidal
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