#still have to figure out what radagons connection to the misbegotten are
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edensvalentina · 1 year ago
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ok so, this ironically has to do with what I see as biblical connections in the text. which grrm isnt above, though the metaphors are getting crossed with her being crucified but thats honestly better than a one to one.
I feel like theres a connection between marika-godfrey-radagon, and adam-lilith-eve. which tldr in biblical apocrypha adam and lilith were made at the same time, she wasnt subservient, so she was cast out and eve was made from adams rib
it seems like marika was in need of an empyrean heir and the biggest issue was that godfrey couldnt deliver. the twins were born omens, and godwyn might have had a fish tail (or just wasn’t an empyrean and the twins being omens was enough of a big deal the greater will threw a fit idk) and so he was cast out to become the first tarnished.
meanwhile i dont think radagon was made with the intent of him ever becoming elden lord. the carians didnt follow the greater will and where likely seen as a threat like the giants or dragons. this is where me theory on grafting comes in. for some reason marika needed to take a more active role in this conflict and couldnt, so she grafted part of herself with part of a fire giant thus creating radagon. why? i dont know! maybe shes just a control freak, maybe she was doing fucked up experiments because whos gonna stop her, shes fucking god.
my reasoning mostly boils down to the imagery of marika being crucified shes missing part of her side dipping into her stomach where her stomach is, and we have the giants red braid which says radagon hates his red hair because of its connection to the fire giants. which if hes only the other half of marika (naturally occurring or not) doesnt really make sense. also have you seen radahn??
i dont think radagon was created with the idea of being marika’s husband. frankly neither seem exactly keen on the idea. but during the liurian wars radagon ended up marrying rennala (and isnt it funny the astrologers carians are descended from and the fire giants got along?) its unlikely marika LIKED this, but the greater will seemed fine absorbing other factions and it worked out in the end
the issue is marika has three children so far, two of which have been thrown in the fucking sewers. at the same time radagon and rennala are actively having children and ranni ends up being born an empyrean, and doesnt that get marikas fucking goat. so i think the greater will had godfrey cast out and bid marika to take radagon as a husband.
ranni is made a demigod stepchild and has her own two fingers, but i think the greater will was hoping for an heir raised within the golden order and ruined marika and radagons lives to do it. as for them sharing a body at this point? radagon obviously opposed marikas plan to shatter the elden ring and I think she ended up assimilating him either on purpose or like she killed his body and his spirit ended up possessing her or something idk.
my personal elden ring head canon propaganda is that the first person in the golden lineage to graft was not godefroy but marika herself
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katyspersonal · 7 months ago
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Part two of today's SoTE adventures!! Okay in the PREVIOUS EPISODE I figured there was no way to avoid going to the Shadow Keep if I wanted to access second Finger Ruins, so there I went! Although I never reached the Finger Ruins today (typing this post at 3 AM!), other interesting things happened!
1) So there was that really big camp of the soldiers on the way, and I wanted to check it for potentially interesting items, as well as the surroundings! To my surprise, I found this object:
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I DID want to know what was the deal with the solar faces on the furnace guys!! Instant interest! Didn't expect the Fell God to be addressed again, but also the fact that he is connected with the Hornsent! The spiraling horns of the especially divine kind, too! Damn, I just- Dung Eater's similar sun face emblem being the symbol of the goal he envisioned (that I remind you was to "bless" everyone with the Omen, so, with Crucible), Leonine Misbegotten being connected with Radagon who himself had his red hair as curse of the Giants, one of Marika's pair of twins being oddly Omens! EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED AAAAA
2) So on my way to the camps, I tried to avoid the furnace guy as much as possible but still ran into him :^) HOWEVER, as I died, I've noticed the heads of Fire Giants on his knees! I didn't react fast enough to take a good screenshot, so in order to do that I decided to resort to the lowest level furnace guy (near the starter bridge)! That was more successful!
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Turned out they are decorative. Thankfully. I would not be shocked if literal heads of Fire Giants were worn like trophies or so :т So, yeah... Not only Godfrey's Duelists feature the eye mark of the Fell God as part of their design, not only there are firethrower machines in the Lands Between modeled after Fire Giants, but now also Messmer's battle machines depict Fell God (in a much more flattering manner as opposed to Marika's soyjack depiction of him gfhghfh) and the Fire Giants! That's a LOT appropriation of the defeated....
3) By the way, I ACTUALLY DEFEATED THAT GUY, HOLY SHIT???????
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Turned out that it leaves a bright trace of fire red on the spot where it died! So like remember how I explained I struggled with surviving attacks by jumping? With this guy I actually managed to adapt! As soon as he is about to stomp his foot back on the ground you gotta jump so you don't get burnt! Sorcery was also very effective to stagger him and make him fall >:3 They're like golems but bigger and stronger!
4) I found this talisman in the Shadow's Keep near the Golden tree!
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So Messmer's soldiers and Knights are using Godfrey's stomps and attacks, Messmer himself shares a similar spartan aesthetic, Godfrey's Duelists feature not just his symbols but also the snakes, Messmer has Radagon's red hair that he received as a curse during war on the Fire Giants, that war was happening with Godfrey's help, Radagon became consort to Marika already after Godfrey got sent out from the Lands Between for a long long time, and now this....
I think my prediction that Messmer was a child of Marika and Godfrey is actually solid! I've connected the dots. I've connected them x) If Rykard can be blonde then "purely" Marika's child can be a redhead yeEEEEAh!
5) Okay, seeing this already was surprising:
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The second option is Leda, of course! I hesitated because the last time with Sellen and Jerren it determined what items I get, but really wanted to beat Leda up! I already liked the Hornsent guy prior, whereas my with the fanatics in Soulsborne is to always kick their asses :pensive:
6) What actually made me drop my jaw was the fact that Hornsent and Leda....... TALKED.
Like, this is less impactful if Elden Ring was one's only Soulsborne game, but characters in these games don't really TALK with each other. It always happens behind the scenes, have you noticed? You learn from the character that they talked with another character, but in the end the only talk to you on screen. Even as for the cutscene "conversations", they usually happen when another person is like, unconscious or dead! Laurence's memory about exchange with Willem comes to mind as an exception!
And so, as for NPC interactions, Sellen and Jerren were close, but Leda and Hornsent actually broke the tradition. Amazing xD
7) True, Leda's eyes according to face data are grey, with barely visible glint of red as clouding effect! She is a Tarnished :p
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It is hard to see from the phone picture, but her eye iris apparently features pattern of Miquella's branches. Otherwise the eyes-runes are Marika's doing, so Miquella repeating her "trick" already gives that vibe of indeed being the son of his mother, heh.
8) I just looked around the place for some more, but got really surprised to stumble into a place called Specimen Storehouse?? What!
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^ Also WHY?
9) I did not know why they were here
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By the spoilers I've gotten so far I assumed that maybe he was trying to recover the shamans into their normal bodies, unsuccessfully? Some less swolen bodies respectfully being laid on beds felt like that, too..
10) The 'moon and fire' emblem is ALL proudly over this place too! Good to know that Messmer sees Rellana as equal and it is not just her stuck in simping xD
11) I ended up going sort of a secret (?) route accessed from the ladder down in the area with the boats. And GOOODD DAMN, I was SO ANGRY! So I was breaking my ass learning to fight the furnace guys just to take a good shot of the Fire Giants decor on them, ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT here in this place there was A FULLY INACTIVE FURNACE GUY FREE TO LOOK AT TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT GFGGHGHHJ Truly, one of the most Katyahina experiences 🤡
12) Down the route, I found this:
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I know that's what Dane was wearing (whom I never challenged)! My instant thought was that it's rather unlucky that a guy that values independence in faith above all else fell for the spell that got him to put faith in Miquella, like.. man, that's awkward.
13) Even further down the road, I found a Mausoleum and prepared for a really bad time :/
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Well, it wasn't actually that bad because Rakshasa appeared to be weak to Strength weapons that is my main thing after sorceries xD She dropped her armor and weapon!
The last two sentences are especially interesting though! What do they mean by become Rakshasa? Isn't it supposed to be a specific woman? I doubt there will be any more info, but it does remind me of how with Ensha it felt like actual Ensha was the armor itself since it included human bones and literally was called 'royal remains'. (Not to mention the fact that the term 'soulless' is reserved to the Demigods that died on the Night of the Black Knives!)
So yeah, feels like the second deal of this sort of assimilation or successorship? Like some random person becomes the continuation or rebirth of the actual person in question.. So Rakshasa is like, a spirit? 🤔
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So yeah I'll continue on this path and see where it takes me! Sigh I haven't explored even half of the game still, this DLC is H U G E
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