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bleue-flora · 5 months ago
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my theory for why he wanted ctommy to trust him and be his weapon is because of a few things. He saw potential in ctommy, he knew ctommy was good at leading people (in pogtopia he was the one who ralleyed everyone together), ctommy could easily sway anyone to like cdream which is useful hes a social weapon, ctommy is cdreams biggest enemy at that time so getting him on side would make cdream be able to achieve his goal better, he is irritated with ctommy for ruining his life so in a way getting ctommys trust could be done out of revenge as it breaks ctommy and rebuilds him to be better and to allign with cdreams happy family goal. 'If ctommy is in order than maybe everyone else can be too.' Its interesting he chooses to fake a friendship with ctommy instead of just torturing him the entire time in exile.
A lot of his manipulative actions in exile are a result of him believing ctommy being around anyone but himself would result in ctommy reverting back to a trouble maker, even ghostbur which is why he got rid of him imo.
Hmm interesting… No offense to Tommy but of the characters I see as good at swaying a crowd or being a leader or social weapon he does not necessarily come to mind. Besides Tubbo I feel like there aren’t really any instances where Tommy was the reason people did things. A lot of people hated Schlatt for other reasons so I’m not sure Tommy really rallied together Pogtopia. Quackity certainly wasn’t happy under Schlatt, he was mistreating Niki, Eret wanted redemption, Techno wanted to tear down the government, Fundy was against Schlatt day one and acting as a spy, members of the Badlands wanted chaos and for the factors to tear themselves apart… etc. So, I’m not sure we can say he has the power to inspire and rally people into fighting for a cause like Wilbur. Even Doomsday, I don’t personally think they were really swayed by Tommy’s speech, Sapnap and Punz were already going to side against Dream regardless, the people living in L’manberg or around didn’t want their house blown up etc. I’m not sure anyone fought because Tommy asked them or gathered them together, I think they were going to regardless. And Dream would know that, I mean look how fast they turned against Tommy with the Community House being blown up. So leader? - meh. Social weapon? - if you mean by talking over everyone lol then yeah, but convincing people of things? Inspiring them to fight for something - I’m just not sure I personally see it. Within reason right. Yes, everyone believe the things about Exile and stuff, but they saw how Tommy was screwed up after. So if Tommy was being manipulated into being Dream’s social weapon I don’t think they’d side with Tommy on Dream’s side.
Also, I’m not sure Tommy was his biggest threat at that point Quackity starting plotting to kill him imediately after the war, everyone else I don’t think liked him because he sided with Schlatt, a bunch of people that weren’t Tommy went after George as the king including Technoblade, hence his dethronement. Not to mention after gaining the revive book, he became afraid of a lot bigger things or larger threats to the point of building a prison to contain such evil that can’t be killed for whatever reason. Tommy was perhaps number 1 annoying bug, and certainly a threat or a possible catalyst to another war, but I don’t think Dream saw him as the biggest threat to his plans per se.
I’m not sure I follow the logic of taking revenge on someone via making them better mannered, trust you and become your friend so that you both can make everyone be peaceful as one big happy family. I mean if you wanna really do revenge like that is the true reason - you ruined my life so I’m going to ruin you - I think you’d start with destroying L’manberg before it even is able to pick up it’s pieces, kill Tubbo, explode his house as you said torture him. What do you need trust for? How bout just kill him and then with him removed you build your happy family and then maybe revive him later. It just doesn’t make sense, and Dream may be somewhat insane and extreme and emotional, but he does things for a reason that make logical sense for his goal. That is a defining difference between them actually - Tommy does not follow logic but feelings and doesn’t do things for his motivation, while Dream follows logic over feelings and does everything or makes everything work that was emotionally caused for his motivation. His emotions leak through the cracks but he doesn’t lead them dictate his over plans, so doesn’t Dream take out revenge on Tommy - I think yes, I think his emotions pushed him to make Tommy feel exactly like he did - abandoned, trapped, having lost everything over and over, but I don’t think that was the ultimate purpose. I think that was almost more so unintentional like waking up grumpy and being a jerk to people all day, except in this scenario having your world crumble around you and starting to take it out on the person who is fairly responsible.
Because, clearly based on what we see in Daedalus Dream isn’t an idiot who thinks torturing or breaking someone is how you manipulate them/get what you want. It doesn’t work, not in the dsmp and not in the real world. And he proves in Daedalus that with the upper hand, he doesn’t need to lay a hand on someone to get them to do what he wants, yet he does lay a hand on Tommy, which is counterproductive, giving me the impression that it’s not necessarily part of his plan. In other words, I do not think Exile was intended to be the cruel punishment it ended up being, I more so get the impression that it’s almost like Dream was trying to parent him.
Like think about it… Time out: sent away from everyone by yourself, Grounded: Unable to leave, Getting something taken away: losing items of value, Spankings: hitting as punishment for disobedience. All of these things are methods used by parents to enforce the ideas of good and bad in a child who doesn’t know any better. And don’t those kinda look like exactly what Dream does in Exile? Sure it’s so an extreme but the bad things Tommy did are extreme: murder, stealing, arson, slavery, torture, destruction…. Etc so in a twisted sort of way it kinda makes sense (Do Not take this as me agreeing with Dream’s methods or anything, I’m just looking at similarities. This isn’t about deserved or saying the behavior was justified or the right thing to do or whatever. All I’m looking at is reasoning and our purpose.)
Anyways… what was I saying? I might be getting lost in my thoughts oops. Oh okay, right isolation. I think I touched upon this somewhere, I do think it was with the purpose of preventing them from pointing out how Dream’s a bad person. I don’t think that people make Tommy a trouble maker, he does just fine on his own, and I don’t get the impression most people would try do ya know like arson with him or something. I mean again they turn against Tommy in the house, believing it was him and also being upset. I don’t get the feeling that they are A-okay with Tommy’s behavior much more than Dream is, but I think they support Tommy so they’ll have his back like good friends. So not so much revert in my opinion as turn against Dream if that makes sense. But then if Dream didn’t want Tommy to turn on him and actually become like friends or whatever why would he act so cruel, and thats where the emotions leak through the cracks make perhaps what was supposed to be a lesson into more so hell.
I mean later, when Phil makes Tommy burn a precious items and burn stone over and over and over again to teach him about how items are just things, isn’t that kinda similar to what Dream was doing in Exile?… though I also think Dream was afraid Tommy was going to get stuff to then revolt against Dream and try to kill him or whatever so maybe his fear (something he was definitely being consumed by) was at play there. I don’t know… Exile is just so��� I don’t interesting and weird, but I don’t think it was supposed to be cruel, or to break/make Tommy into his puppet or weapon, it just doesn’t make sense, not with what happened nor with Dream’s motivation and characteristic behavior. He says to Sam in Daedalus that Exile wasn’t “morally perfect” and I think honestly part of him believes that…
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insideliascrazyhead · 2 months ago
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Sannoh Rengokai´s instagram shenaningans remix Sleepy Lion is actually a baby snake?!
Sooo I will keep the explenation short.I got a request to do some social media au for my fic.So here it is!Enjoy<3
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Ice:Yo slutz!Take a fucking guess what I found?!
Sara:That party was legendary
Jesse:Hey,my husband!I gotta clutch my pearls at that shock....
Ice:Nah,bro.He loves me more.
Jesse:Whatever go fuck yourself as the only one Cobra fucks is me.
Dan:I still nearly vomit at the thought of that nasty ass hangover.
Yamaro:You´re weak.
Cobra:That was hilarious.
Dan:Yeah,you laugh Cobra!At least I learned a lesson that night! Cobra:Entertain me? Naomi:Us all please I need a god laugh...
Dan:That I´m a emotional people pleaser.More exactly a woman pleaser.
Cobra:No Dan.I´m a woman pleaser,you´re a lonely guy that was full of vomit.
Tetsu:You got Jesse though?
Jesse:Open relationship.At least when it comes to the sexual stuff
Yasushi:Hey Tsukasa guess what? Tsukasa:Yasushi I swear take your nasty paws away from my father or I will kill you dead!
Hyuga:So you and Cobra whore around
Rocky:No slut shaming only slut encouraging,but yeah
Jesse:Tsukasa log out.
Jesse:When I would do all the hella kinky shit Cobra´s into I would be dead...
Yasushi;Oh how I love this shit.Tsukasa I swear I´m gonna be your step dad soon.
Fujio:You got Kiyoshi.
Kiyoshi:So,Yasushi and your dad´s could easily use a fortht!
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Sara:Heart eyes motherfuckers.
Cobra:Where on earth do you get those?
Sara:I´m a hoarder for media evidence.
Tsukasa:Why do they look like they went to a fucking LMFAO concert?
Yamasto:Drugs.
Cobra:Yamato!
Jesse:Stop it you fucking prick. Yamato:I´m sorry I mean PartySmarties,DiscoMints etc....
Rocky:Where did yall put Tsukasa then? Jesse:Granny´s house for the weekend.He get´s spoiled.We get fucked up on a rave.
Murayama:Cobra-chan and techno? Tetsu:Fuck yeah when he´s wasted enough he can listen to everything.
Naomi:I saw him poledance to Taylor Swift
Yamato:Hah.Weak.I saw him twerk to orchestra!
Rocky:I will pay you whatever you want for that video
Hyuga:Whatever Discoboy is bidding I double it!
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Jesse:„Take that fucking thing outta my face or I will choke you till you´re dead!“
Tetsu:Cobra.Not in the mood.
Cobra:Fucking stalker
Jesse:Yeah,you´re fucking your stalker
Yasushi:Then whack your weasle from now on,I will marry Cobra.
Cobra:Not even in my worst nightmare.But the crazy kid is right,you´re whacking your weasle from now on.
Tsukasa:Yasushi,go and touch some fucking grass
Noboru:Cobra doesn´t have a crazy people fetish.
Yamato:No.He´s the crazy one in this relationship.
Chiharu:No.Really???
Yamato:Once when someone tried to rob the gas station Cobra dowsed both of them in gasoline.Took out a cigarette and told that guy he should run,if he doesn´t want Cobra to blow the entire gas station up.
Hyuga:That´s hilarious.
Fujio:Something Yasushi would do.
Shidaken:No way!That´s insanely suicidal.
Yasushi:Nah,I´m not suicidal.The world would be a better place without me and that´s exactly why I have to keep on living.
Fujio:Weirdly motivational
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Jesse:Sleeping beauty.
Murayama:Now that´s what I come here for!
Hyuga:That´s borderline pornographic
Jesse:What?I didn´t even upload our sex tape! Yamato…. Ice:Exmotherfuckingscuseme?!
Sara:He´s showing chesticals for locals in heat.
Yasushi:This man so hot I´m pissing steam bitch
Cobra:Im not sleeping im dead leave flowers then go fuck yourself
Jesse:a dead person wouldn´t kick me outta the bed four fucking times with the way u move in ur sleep
Cobra:at least i don´t snore as loud as a chainsaw
Jesse:I don´t.You´re mean!Meanie Mouse!
Tsukasa:My bed vibrates fromn ur snoring old man
Jesse:grounded
Fujiio:You do though.I once thought it´s an earthquake
Jesse:Fujio you´re grounded too.
Fujio:You can do that?He can´t.Right?Cobra-san!
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Murayama:Skipped to Itokan to visit Cobra-chan and look who I found!Sleepy-Lion/Baby snake! Leopard fur and cupcakes!That´s such a adorable remix of Cobra-chan and * ewww * Jesse
Fujio:Gotta go and buy a wedding ring!
Jesse:*clutching my pearls and dramatically wiping away a tear* Yasushi:Why he so relaxed tho?!Sannoh Stoner Squad?
Tsukasa:No.I´m just relaxed when you´re not around to force my will to live to jump from Oya´s roof.
Murayama:No Sleepy Lion No Rude Boying down the roof!
Kiyoshi:What´re you gonna do bout it old man? Shibaman:Lean over the railing and scream Tsukasa come back!
Rocky:I get that Cobra wants his genetics out there,looking like he does.But why Jesse?! Hyuga:How you know the kid won´t turn out ugly like Jesse tho?Made with love and not a quick nut?!Jesse probably takes two minutes in bed and I´m being generous here.
Kizzy:Rocky´s right tho.Cobra?Sexy.Jesse?Not so much.Cobra?Beautiful!Jesse low key ugly.
Ice:it´s crazy that Jesse didn´t scare baby Tsukasa to death with his ugly mug
Yamato:Okay can we move on now.I got it.Jesse looks so ugly that he should hide his face till halloween so he gonna scare the kids better.
Jesse:Low blow bro! Sara:The only one that´s blowing´s Cobra.
Noboru:most kids should be swallowed and not concived anyways.Not Tsukasa tho,he´s an angel and we´re thrilled to have him.
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Naomi:Cobra´s treat now that he goes to therapy!Text wouldn´t fit on a cupcake. Cobra:Gonna take em anti sad bitch skittles like candy now.
Ice:Swollowing pills like candy will keep your grippy sock vaccation away!
Hyuga:Or cause him to loose the last marble and send him straight to the nut house! Chiharu:We´re gonna miss you Cobra-san.
Tetsu:Don´t forget us in there with your new friends.
Dan:What friends his hand he´s gonna start talking to? Cobra:Relax you drama queens.I ain´t gonna go to the nut house before I killed all three of you too avoid going to jail:)
Yamato:Hey,at least Noboru studied law for like two minutes!He can recommand a lawyer!
Yasushi:You know what they say about crazy guys,they´re the best in bed!
Hyuga:Yeah wait and see Cobra in the padded cell making boats outta popsicle sticks
Rocky:Miss thing....Too much.Hyuga,too much.
Cobra:It´s crazy i don´t snort glue around yall crazy bastards.
Yamato:You´re grumpy today.What´s the matter? Sara:Easy.Didn´t get laid in a while.
Yasushi:I´m available.
Murayama:I´m not gonna say I´m judging.All I say is I understand.
Tsukasa:I am judging tho.Heavily.Fuck you Yasushi.
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Cobra:Had a beautiful trip to Oya today!Guess what I found!Murayama!Wanna explain what fun game yall where playing? Dan:of course first time Cobra posts anything it´s to cause drama
Tetsu:Or a gang war!
Murayama:Cobra-chan nooooo
Murayama:also to my defence i never heard of part time stakes...
Todoroki:Cobra never said the name of the game.
Fujio:Woah!What´s that?And why am I not on it? Nakaoka:Better question.Why do yall bid on the Yasu-kiyo jerks? Furuya:Cause they´re crazy enough to fight a crackhead and stab him with his own spoon
Yasushi:When Kiyoshi the bitch that he is got stabbed by a chick
Kiyoshi:Most beautiful day of my life.
Hyuga:That Yasushi kid is my kinda bitch.A bone to pick and not a fucking care in the world.?Oh yeah.Oya!That kids Daruma now.
Tsukasa:That was when all the factions fought er who will take over the full timers Fujio.
Shibaman:Also why does every photo taken look good as fuck.Even Yasushi.And that almost had me gagging.Exept Kiyoshi...
Yasushi:You can stop gagging when you don´t deep throat Todoroki´s dick! Tsuji:Kiyoshi kinda looks like he´s yerking his chicken.
Fujio:Murachi!Long story short the others will kill you...
Todoroki:Guys we´re not that ghetto.We´re not gonna kill anyone. Yasushi:Speak for yourself,sugar tits.The night´s still young and I´m craving violence.
Cobra:Man you gotta be the wet dream of every psychiatrist who enjoys a challenge huh?
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Tsukasa:That treassure is hanging in Yamato´s garage.Thought I share this beauty with the world.
Fujio:I love this!Noboru looks ready to tap out as soon as Yamato looses conciousness.
Yamato:I was only attacked by this feral squirrel you call a father when I was seated.Other wise that garden gnome would´ve needed a ladder to even have eye contact with me.
Cobra:Seated because you we´re eating.If you continue Naomi´s gotta feed you with a pitchfork.
Yamato:At least I eat like a normal human being!Not only cupcakes and tequila.
Jesse:I saw him once eat fruitloops,with marshmallows,candy and beer cause we we´re outta milk
Noboru:That´s nasty man
Kiyoshi:Hey!Yasushi does that with energy drinks! Yasushi:I also use energy drinks instead of water for coffee.Your point. Todoroki:That explains everything
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Rocky:I love how Cobra and Jesse are in a relationship for years and have a kid together when this photo exists and is a year old
Jesse:Foreplay.
Cobra:Jesse!
Jesse:Oh yeah,my mistake.Foreplay would be a lot rougher.
Cobra:At least I didn´t loose my shoe mid fight like fucking cinderella.
Jesse:All I hear is that I´m a princess and I agree.
Ice:*wiping tears*remember in your early relationship?When you destroyed Jesses bed,couch and kitched table to the point of no repair?Good times.
Sara:They had a good time.I fucking wish I would be deaf.
Yamato:At least you´re not living two houses down.I heard that once.
Dan:Why does Cobra get so much action anyways and then there´s me.
Tetsu:Overworked and underfucked.Got it.
Naomi:Oh calm down you big baby.
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Tetsu:Partying hard just like his fathers! Jesse:*le gasp* Zebra!Traitor.
Cobra:You dramatic little bitch.Stop crying.
Ice:Grown up so quickly.
Rocky:Oh yeah where where you when your son got wasted`? Cobra:Nowhere with no one doing nothing with nobody.
Noboru:It wasn´t even in Club Heaven...
Yamato:That´s it!Innocent!Lawyers decision! Naomi:He´s not a lawyer dumbass. Chiharu:Half a lawyer then!Congratulations he´s half innocent! Tsukasa:Relax,fun police.I was only slightly tipsy. Fujio:You tried to go to Jamuo in the middle of the night with a highlighter,cause he´s important.
Jamuo:At least you´re not Yasushi.I sleep with a knife under my pillow and a emergency sedative in a syringe near by bed strong enough to knock out a horse! Yasushi:Wow.Lovely.Fuck you you little woodland creature.
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