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I don't know who behind Cadence of Hyrule is responsible for making Shadow Link a playable character, but they have my eternal gratitude. I absolutely adore this lil' guy
#there's two palettes--both have red eyes when he's attacking or idling#i have yet to unlock it but apparently shadow link's unique ability is to pull enemies in when he does a spin attack#there's a shadow zelda too#dark link#well technically#shadow link#starslog#cadence of hyrule
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log number 2544
heeeeeey beach its me again comin at you wwith some hot planet updates
i literal havve hated myself recently to the point wwhere i typed that nd had to stop nd laugh but no that wwas terrible im so sorry but im not deletin it please just accept the stupidity
onto the subject at hand i guess i should do my first actual formal update since ... wwoww fivve months ago accordin to my last log to this wwebsites clock geeze im sorry i really meant to get to these sooner i just ,,,, you dont care
you hate me draibe nd you knoww it but wwhatevver these are my logs nd my journals nd you just gotta deal wwith it its not like anyone else cares about jack diddily shit
planet wwise i must inform you that i havve not found any that are good enough for us to stay long term--the closest being one with creatures wwe couldnt handle nd i doubt wwould alloww any of the lusii to stay thusly that removves the mothergrubs survvivval a good bunches so that one out unfortunately
it is a lovvely picnic planet though wwould recommend as a pitstop to let the younglings run around ? just an idea ..... though keep them head counted
another thin to update is tester 8 has been poppin around on the radar but i cannot pinpoint wwhere she is she doesnt not seem to be one to care much for anythin other then her pushy spiderlusus gettin fed--understandable but she doesnt think a the bigger picture like i try to do .... not the best but i TRY at least
tech nd zeze havve both been gainin wweight easily nd ivve been wworkin to get the twwo in better condition zee has stopped eatin sopor nd instead eats a healthier fruit that wworks the same so they stay safer tech has just started gettin feelings back in their toes after the surgery on the mothership nd his psionics are comin back um .....
i had more but i cant think a it at the moment .... i guess thats evverythin ... oh !!! nd for the Empress i gots somefin for you ! um .... sorry if its stupid but its a thank ya [youdontgottakeepit.obj]
this is eridan star ampora signin off until next time
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The funniest thing about legato would be that he literally just has to slip up once when explaining
And the chain will grow ten times more concerned about him then they are already
Like telling them he has done adventure stuff for over 8 years (concerned as hell )
Explaining the situation off the hytopia gladiator thing in a tiny bit too little detail (concerned about the fighting pit legato could have grown up in if he did dangerous stuff since he was a toddler or something)
Telling them he died to a fairy because he tried to kill it (leaving out the Kamikaze part obviously) (very very concerned )
Telling them he knew links before… back track from the statement and now the chain thinks his family all called link are his dolls in hytopia and he doesn’t have a family (CONCERNED)
Accidentally mention romance and how destroyed he was afterwards to cheer someone up …. Forgets he is assumed as a child and then failing to notice the very pale and horrified faces of the chain … no way to backtrack …she dead anyway ? (it made things worse)(game over for him the chain ain’t gonna let him breathe by himself now)
Like if he tries to explain without revealing too much he going to shoot himself in the leg ten times over and then have to fight god to prove he can be left alone for more ten ten seconds lol
Oh yeah, you have no idea how much I've had to restrain myself from having Legato casually drop some absolutely brutal info about himself XD
Just consider: Legato has been a hero for around twelve years, which is coincidentally how old the others think he is. He has to be careful about mentioning literally anything about his past simply because something that happened four years ago carries very different implications for a kid than it does a young adult.
#i had originally considered having an established romantic relationship between ravio and legato#which would've been cute to the rest of the chain until someone asks how old his date is and legato answers automatically with the truth#leading to a very panicked reveal of legato's true age as everyone in earshot unanimously decides to kill the love of his life#i ended up discarding this because i didn't wanna deal with that kind of plotline#even if there's technically precedent with anju and kafei in mm#starslog#lu doppelgänger au
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#him...#i've been working on this little guy all year#i want to talk about him so bad but i must wait#at least until i figure out a good place to end the fic i'm writing with him#so for now: behold what might be his final design#in all his tiny glory#my art#starslog
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This isn't at all what you're going for, but I love the concept that the shadow was traveling across the timeline for something unrelated to the heroes. Like, the shadow turns around and does a double take because each hero independently saw a weird portal and decided to walk through.
Everything happens afterwards seems haphazardly thrown together because the shadow decided to commit to this whole dramatic crossover event and is making it up as they go.
So, there's an important question that I (personally) haven't seen being asked yet, so I'm going to speculate, because that's the good and proper thing to do when you don't have information, context, or anything whatsoever to inform your thoughts on a matter 👍
So yes, my big question is: why is the shadow hopping times to begin with?
We know that the chain is following the shadow, so we know why they are hopping through eras and going through these gates, but why does the shadow make them? We've seen that he's the source of the gates, and the boys have recently figured that out too, but why? Why is he making them? Why does he need to travel through time and does he have any control over it?
So far, we've seen two portals opened. Once it was in an attempt to escape our boys, but the second time? They already thought he was dead, so there was nothing to run from. They're not existent as a form of escape from the boys, but the fact that they opened in all of the heroes' eras and timelines to bring them together at all would either imply that the shadow has gathered them on purpose (popular theory) or perhaps that there's something in their worlds that he wants/needs.
What is he up to while our boys are bonding and traveling? Is he on the worlds worst grocery/errand run For Evil while nine heroes constantly try to stop him? Is his reason for traveling across times perhaps to gather something? Pieces of a something?
It wouldn't be a stretch to say that the black blooded monsters are a distraction to keep the boys busy, but there's also just the chance that the shadow is trying to kill them and thus empowering his army as much as possible. Still, that doesn't explain why he'd use the gates, even if it was just to gather a monster army.
Is he working for someone? Is there a bigger bad somewhere? Is he doing this of his own free will, and in that case, what is he doing? Why do the boys matter in the equation?
Perhaps- and I'm just spit baling right now- the shadow is gathering some sort of supplies, pieces of something, some artifacts or tools. He's gathering something while the boys wander cluelessly after him. He needs them to follow, needs to keep them close, but not too close on his tail. Why? Because he needs their power, or something that can be only achieved with all of them at once, in one place.
Is he planning to use them like magical batteries for some purpose? Is he going to pit them against puzzles and dungeons and foes he can't handle himself, in order to sweep in and reap the rewards? Why bring the heroes with? Why leave a clear path to follow him if he really wanted to escape?
What is the shadow's goal here?
#the direction you take in speculation is super cool--i'm just having fun over here with my completely inaccurate predictions#the shadow suffers the consequences of not picking up after themself#littering is the worst act of evil XD#starslog
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Collectively, the group can figure out most of Legato’s secrets but individually, they are stuck. Certain members have more pieces than others but not enough pieces to figure out the whole thing.
(I don’t blame them for not talking about Legato’s oddities because Legato has been pretty good at diverting attention and people are only now realizing the extent of it and they’re trying to be respectful to each other’s experience by not trampling on old wounds. Pressing someone for their adventure details also opens up the possibility of others asking about there’s and no one wants that.)
Now onto groups that if they talked could figure out some of Legato’s everything!:
Legend and Four: Legato’s from Downfall Timeline and is probably after Legend and either before Hyrule or after him. Four heard Legato make a mention to hostile River Zoe’s back in Legend’s Hyrule and this type of Zora is most common in Pre-Time-split and in the Downfall Timeline. Furthermore, the way Legato brought it up—offhandedly like it’s common knowledge/phrasing in his era—means that Zora being aggressive is normal to him thus eliminating Wind, Time, and Wild from being close to his era. Legend figured out that Legato already knew that he could turn into a pink rabbit beforehand so that implies either time travel shenanigans or stories of that being passed down into Legato’s era—thus Legato has to come after him at some point.
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#excellent deductions all around#i don't have much more to add#regarding his slip-ups‚ Legato has one thing going for him#he has picked up a bunch of habits and phrases from traveling over the years#(some he supresses more than others)#the amount of cultural diffusion within the Chain is remarkable#a certain character is going to experience the tragedy of being introduced to cheese only to realize that it doesn't exist in their era#starslog#lu doppelgänger au
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Hello again—I come bearing another LU Doppelgänger AU question!
Hopefully this isn’t a spoiler or anything but I was curious about what age each member of the group thinks Legato is?
Like we know that they think he’s younger than Wind based on his diminutive stature so that sets up an age range of 12 and under. And based on Time’s experience, the lower range a hero appears is like 9-10 years old so we got our lower bound.
(I have no idea on how old Legend was in his very first adventure but he was also very young and given his relative age in the group—late teens to early twenties—he was probably around Time’s initial age at the start.)
So given these assumptions, the oldest he can be is 12 and the youngest is between the ages of 10-11. They know he’s been on two adventures which would take at LEAST a year minimum if he had bad luck and got hit with them one after another.
Wind’s journey starts off with him at 12 and by the time he’s finished both Hyrule Warriors and Phantom Hourglass—he’s anywhere from 13 1/2 to nearly 14. So entirely doable to do two quests in a year or so.
Legato’s behavior also works as a confounder since he’s a good mix of optimism, trust, and wisdom. Legato is very cheerful and has a lot of trust in the group at the start that from an outside perspective can make him appear really young and naive. However certain members have been exposed to Legato’s more mature qualities such as his ability to understand and articulate complex emotions (high emotional intelligence) and his worldly experience (magic knowledge, gladiator work, etc.).
So I think some members will view him closer to being around 12 (Four and Wind) and others closer to 10-11 (Twilight?) but I’m not sure on specifically where each member falls on this kind of scale.
Thanks!
Hello! You nailed it pretty much exactly on the head--the general consensus among the group is that he's 12. Both for the reasoning you used, and because of how the others see him in comparison to Wind (whose age is known). There's his size and disposition to take into account, but overall it's mostly that nobody wants to consider that he might be younger than that.
The Chain doesn't think about his age much beyond him being the 'youngest'. Out of everyone, Warriors and Twilight see him more on the young side (ie if asked they would guess the lowest ages for him).
Fun fact! Four is the one who sees him the oldest, mostly because he's judging purely based on Legato's knowledge and behavior. He is the only one who actually suspects that Legato might be the same age or older than Wind--he doesn't see appearance as a reliable measure. Time would also be here but ironically due to his own life experiences he thinks he's biased and doesn't trust his instincts on the matter.
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in honor of LU Doppelgänger AU’s most recent chapter—have some memes!
Four:
I loved seeing the dynamic of the Colors in the story and I loved Red especially. That guy has been stewing for days in this issue and he finally got to express all his upset and it was V I C I O U S.
Fun to read, absolutely awful for Wild!
Thank you dearly but how on earth did you make these so quickly--
#XDDD#yeah i was reading everyone's comments on the last chapter about how wild was going through it#just glad that i didn't have to try to talk my way around what was about to happen#i have Thoughts about the colors#and yes i have been waiting to share this chapter for a long time#starslog#lu doppelgänger au
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As a personal rule of thumb, the more powerful I write a character the objectively smaller their problems are.
An immortal? They're super hesitant to try new things because if they really like it they'll either have to buy dozens to preserve and have around after they get discontinued, OR have to reverse engineer make them from scratch so they can always have them in the future and it's a whole Thing. Their favorite brand of cereal adjusts the recipe and their entire life turns upside down as they try to figure out the old recipe before their person stockpile runs out.
A literal god? Look, they've been spending too much time around mortal people and genuinely forgot they could magic up a solution. Besides, conjured food just doesn't taste right, and they only have to make a quick grocery run! And then it was out of stock and they were too awkward to ask if there was more in the back, and so they went through every store in town to find the right spices and didn't return home until well after dinner time and they're upset but at least now they finally can make food and--wait. They don't need to eat. They literally could've just waited until the next day...or, you know. Snuck into the back of the first store to see the stock/teleported around stores until they found the right one.
In the case of Danny, I like stories where he tends to not think things through/defaults to worse case scenario, which is fair because that's often what's happening. He doesn't stop to explain himself because a)when has explaining things ever resolved a situation for him and b)nobody ever asks, even his parents are shoot-first-questions-later.
Like, of course he books it from the crime scene! He's going to get blamed either way, he might as well get some time to himself first. Yeah, he could put in the effort and get top scores in school, but no good test score is going to outweigh the number of unexcused absences he's racked up through hero work and at that point he might as well take his few hours spent not on ghosts hanging out with friends or relaxing.
Danny is more than willing to take an L and trash his civilian life when it comes down with it, even if explaining himself in the moment/a quick lie would've saved him so much trouble. He takes hits he doesn't have to simply because dodging doesn't occur to him, and when he does dodge he usually gets hit by something else entirely.
DP X DC Ramble OP Danny
It’s not that I don’t like Over Powered Danny period, but I have to say I don’t like how some people write OP Danny
It’s a common issue with OP characters, but sometimes the fact they’re op is used to get around actually telling a story. It’s about character conflict, personal struggles and goals. The story is often about trying to accomplish something and if the character can bypass the entire confpict of your story in two seconds, maybe that shouldn’t be the actual conflict of your story
It’s a big part of why OP characters are harder to write well, if they can accomplish their goals with no effort then it’s hard to be invested because it was obviously a non issue. It’s like a story about going to the fridge and getting milk. Is there an interesting way of telling it? Sure, the can be all sorts of ridiculous obstacles to getting that milk, most being unrelated to the milk itself. If the story is just walking to the fridge and grabbing it, then it’s not that interesting
I’m not saying stop writing OP Danny, but give him something to accomplish besides “snap, just froze the entire justice league in place and oh yeah I could destroy your entire world if I wanted to but I won’t” that pretty much ends your story right there
I honestly think that OP characters are just harder to write because you’re limiting what kind of stories you can tell. With physically powerful characters it’s harder to challenge that physical power, so interpersonal conflicts and goals are good ways to challenge them. Example: OP Danny being able to 1v1 half the justice league but trying to deescalate the situation because of a misunderstanding. The easy solution is for him to wreck their shit, the one that would challenge him is trying to talk it out while trying not to fight back
I probably haven’t said this well, but to summarize: you can have your OP characters but don’t let their OP ness bypass actual storytelling
#dpxdc#starslog#this is all to say LET CHARACTERS FAIL#ITS OKAY IF THEY DONT AUTOMATICALLY GO WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME
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Already said this on ao3 but I must share it—there’s no way the Chain is going to keep Legato’s boots on while they put him to bed so they’re going to take them off and then a river of jewelry is going to come pouring out of it.
I just need everyone to have that mental image in these trying times because it made me laugh so hard.
XD As much as I love that mental image, I'm gonna have to disappoint. In the effort of making it at least theoretically possible for him to walk, the rings he has equipped are on his toes (their icons look like they're resizable so it's not too impossible. Hardest part would be getting used to it).
The pegasus anklet speaks for itself, and the chain with his medallions has also been repurposed as an anklet. Overall, lots of jewelry hidden under his socks--it's a bit more difficult to access casually, but he has a lot of other things in his arsenal and it serves as a useful backup in case he's separated from his bag ^-^
#the biggest thing that he's not wearing would be ravio's bracelet#but yeah that stuff is hidden specifically in the event that he loses his shoes#since that's something that happens often in coh#which is a shame because i really did want to have more chaos as he was changed out of his equipment#unfortunately this is the part where the crack was treated too seriously 😔#starslog#lu doppelgänger au
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Is legato's bun form an adult bunny because of his age and legend's age being 16 at the time of the adventure so if 2 years passed then he would be an adult
Or still a toon beamified version of it
Hm...I think that since it's a reflection of your heart that the dark world shapes you into, he'd probably be an adult, no toon-beam involved. Not much bigger than Legend, but noticeably older if anyone were to look closer.
Luckily for him, rabbits are so rare in Hyrule that nobody would be able to tell age differences XD
#he'd still be pink‚ but with streaks of pink and blue#like a scoop of sherbet#lu doppelgänger au#starslog
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A small question about your wonderful doppelganger au if you don't mind - why is Legato shorter than Legend now? Is it magic from Triforce Heroes or something else?
BTW I absolutely LOVED your last update, Legato being comforted by Hyrule and Warriors after dyeing his hair melted my heart🥹🥹🫶
Aw, thank you so much <33 To answer your question: he just shrunk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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XD Okay, but to be serious: I promise there is a reason. This is one of the points where Legato is an unreliable narrator. He does not want to think about the reason why, so he'll only mention it indirectly. Pay attention--there are clues if you want to try to figure it out before it's directly revealed :3
#it's fun to joke about it whenever folks ask me on ao3 but i figure i'll be upfront about it here#i love seeing people theorizing. like y'all are *smart*#nothing more satisfying than seeing you guys start to put together pieces of the story before it happens#means that i'm doing my job right and the story makes logical sense XD#LU Doppelgänger AU#starslog
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Now that the Colors have appeared in the main series, do you have any more headcanons or lore you want to give out?
I find them super interesting and would like to know more about them!
Sure! I write the Colors differently in separate stories, so I'll divide my thoughts into sections:
In the Doppelgänger AU:
As I mentioned in the end notes, they are essentially the same base person with different priorities. They'll agree on things in the bigger picture--they're heroes, they care for their loved ones, etc--but it gets messy when they try to decide on a single course of action.
Four tends to put his feelings aside in times of stress, and this manifests in Red getting ignored by the others a lot. It's a bad habit of theirs that they're trying to break (normally Red gets louder so that he can be heard).
Their priorities, in regards to duty (towards the kingdom, their allies, as a hero), strength (against monsters, to prove themselves, to fiercely protect), strategy (to learn, to adapt, to solve problems), and heart (empathy, to keep fighting, personal wellbeing):
Green - Duty, Strategy, Heart, Strength
Blue - Strength, Heart, Duty, Strategy
Red - Heart, Strength, Strategy, Duty
Vio - Strategy, Duty, Strength, Heart
Specifically in this chapter, Blue was going to let off some steam fighting Wild without revealing why he was mad (though it is fully likely that he would have let something slip during it, which is why he was letting Vio and Green take over the conversation).
Vio was fully prepared to go this entire journey without directly confronting Wild or Hyrule. He had a whole plan which involved winning over Twilight and eventually getting the rancher to deal with it by subtly revealing what had happened on 'accident'. This would have made things significantly worse in the long run and we should be glad that Red ignored Vio's five hour long mental presentation and took matters into his own hands.
In general:
They have a decision-making system in place, where one will propose an idea and the others will vote on it. This works great in theory, but will quickly spiral out of control if everyone votes against all ideas in favor of their own.
It's not unusual for them to divide and conquer, with each of them taking things at their own pace. This inevitably annoys whoever hits a roadblock first and has to wait for everyone else to catch up.
Idea fragments to possibly be used in future fics:
Vio doesn't like reading, but it's a useful way to get information so he tolerates it. He'd much rather listen to someone explain something--over half of his conversations with Shadow was him listening attentively as Shadow rambled.
Blue will get competitive over anything, which is all fun and games until you realize that he's genuinely hurt when he loses. He does not take failure well, and will be harsh on himself afterwards. Thankfully he can always rely on beating Red no matter what they play.
(Red is the only one who consciously knows this. Losing stings, but he's okay with it if Blue feels better afterwards. Green and Vio are granted no such mercy.)
Green is the least secure about his identity as a Color, and often prefers being merged. While the others are recognized around town as Colors, nobody can tell the difference between Green and a merged Link unless he's seen with another Color. He'll pretend to be merged if he's running errands on his own (the villagers like him best, since he acts the closest to the boy they knew before he drew the Four Sword. Green refuses to think about it--it feels too much like a betrayal).
Shadow-specific:
He's fully conscious within Link's shadow post-fsa. That said, he can't be perceived through normal means. Link doesn't know he's there, but will talk to him anyway.
He tried very hard to convince himself that he hated Link before they formally met, mostly because that hurt less than caring for someone he could never reach.
Shadow was thrilled to have Vio working with him, since that meant he didn't have to completely get rid of Link. He would've been happy to get all of the Colors to abandon the light if he thought he could've managed it.
Loves hugs. This guy took every opportunity in the manga to make physical contact with people while he still could, he's a very tactile person. Will trick people into bumping into him.
Adores cats. Yes, he understands why Link dislikes them. But they're soft and adorable and--most importantly--can see him inside Link's shadow. They'll bat at his hands when he makes fun shapes with them (he hopes that one day Link will notice or talk to one of his cat buddies when shrunk down and they'll hint at his continued existence).
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Ok so plans have changed—I have no idea when I’m going to send over my predictions/observations on what certain groups of heroes would be able to figure out some of Legato’s secrets!
This is because I got majorly sidetracked into doing a Four and Legato dynamic analysis and that is currently taking up all of my brain right now! (I just went through the series making notes on how Four and Legato gradually get closer, what cements their relationship, and how that results in the first massive divergence in the series.)
So expect that one at some point soon! And since my first one is getting delayed, I’ve decided to share screenshots of the draft instead!
(It has most of the main ideas but there’s definitely some information that certain characters have that are missing from it. This was also written pre-Matroishka Brain.)
Oh, this is fantastic! Apologies for not getting to this sooner, now lemme just put my thoughts under a cut...
As usual, your analysis is wonderful and well thought through ^-^ I specifically love how you divided which aspects of his secrets could be figured out by the various groups of heroes.
One big hindrance to the Four-Legend-Hyrule team up is that Legend is entirely unwilling to discuss anything related to his dark world form. Though if he's able to work around that, they'd definitely stand a chance at pinning him down. If you consider the Palace of the Four Sword, these three are a rare case in which it's possible for them to know their relative positions on the timeline. The added details that you mentioned would further secure Legato's placement among them.
The Warriors-Time team is fun since Warriors can't shake the feeling that Legato is very much like Mask. In combination with Time (and possibly Wild's) observations, I can see them figuring out something along those lines. Especially with how familiar Legato seems to be with transformation magic.
Sky and Wind! Objectively hilarious if Sky, who is one of the heroes to interact the least with Legato, just looks over at him one day and connects the dots purely based on his knowledge of Legend. Wind figuring it out is also funny. Legato spent all this time subtly distancing himself from Legend and the people closest to the Vet to lower the odds of anyone noticing their similarities, only for Wind (the guy he intentionally paired off with at the very start) to put it together by rummaging through his things...betrayed by the collectables he holds dear XD
Poor Twilight, getting left entirely out of the loop...ironically his disadvantage is that he himself is experienced with kids. Every time he starts wondering about Legato knowing too much or acting oddly, he gets Malo flashbacks :b
#i enjoy thinking about all the Chain's individual experiences and biases and how that would affect their reasoning#ultimately though most of this is dependent on them sitting down and actively trying to figure out something specific regarding legato#which isn't like them#they're all much more likely to ask him something upfront and see how he responds#especially if they aren't trying to hide what they're learning about him#the 'hit it and see what happens' method#a tried and true method of puzzle solving for any hero#starslog#lu doppelgänger au
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Interesting, based on priority ranking it seems like Blue is more inclined to listen to Red more than Green or Vio but he tends to fall in line with Green’s reasoning more so.
I guess that makes sense since strength is categorized by the desire to protect which falls in line with duty so I can understand how Green can mostly get Blue to agree with his plans.
It honestly just makes me curious about the dynamic the Colors have between each other. You’ve explained a bit with the idea fragments for Blue and Red: Red’s the only one emotional aware of how Blue takes failure/defeat and how he works to ensure Blue’s wellbeing. I can see how a Blue and Green dynamic would play out and same for Green and Vio dynamic. I guess the ones I’m uncertain on are Green and Red, Red and Vio, and Blue and Vio.
Based solely on priorities, Blue and Vio are going to argue a lot. Vio doesn’t place a lot of emphasis on Strength or Heart with Heart being in last. So I can see how that leads to him ignoring Red the most. Red has Duty as a last priority so I’m pretty curious about how Green and Red would interact.
I figured that Blue would have slipped up if they continued the confrontation of Wild given how Legato is Four’s friend and injured which falls nicely in his priorities of protection.
I am curious to know how badly Vio’s plan would have been though! I’m sure someone would have noticed eventually that Four was being cold to Wild and Hyrule eventually or either of them would have confronted him before getting Twilight to deal with Wild. But outside of that I can’t imagine just how bad of a situation it would be. This one was already pretty bad but you telling me that it could have been worse is making me really pity Wild.
Also that fragment on how Green is the most insecure broke my heart! Like the explanation on how the town can’t really tell he’s different from original Link and mainly like him because of it is just sad. It’s being shoved in his face that he’s treated more like an imitation of who they used to be rather than as a person. And he is still Four but people change regardless of magical artifacts and it’s like some people can’t accept that. I dunno, Green is just giving me feelings.
AND THE SHADOW STUFF! Being fully conscious in Link’s shadow is messing with me. So close and yet so far from the person you’ve known for your entire life. Yeah, absolutely makes sense that a person who wasn’t able to interact with the world physically would enjoy physical contact. It’s new! He can actually affect and interact with the world now! Love that the cats get to peak into shadows! They’re supernaturally associated animals so them being able to notice Shadow is a nice touch! Please talk to the cats Four (and don’t get hit by them).
Thanks!
I'd say that Green and Vio mostly see Red as someone that needs to be looked after, and Red lets them--everyone expects him to be silly and emotional. Which works for him since he really doesn't have to worry about duty (the parallels are strong in this one).
Onto the not so fun part: Vio's plan. It would've gradually escalated so that most (if not all) of the Chain would've gotten involved. Like a bad game of telephone, each hero would have heard a slightly different version of what went down and reacted accordingly. Which is just...Yikes.
(The whole thing would get resolved when Wind decides to go and ask Legato directly about what happened, and the two of them work together to come up with a brilliant plan to fix things: Legato has to talk to Wild and Hyrule about it. Legato does not like this plan, but likes the thought of everyone being upset with each other even less.)
Yeah, the manga (and as an extension, a lot of fanwork) doesn't really characterize Green much beyond "hero", so I like doubling down on that and making it a problem. Love all the issues that come from him being treated as the default--all the others have their own gimmick in addition to being heroes, but Green is just extra dedicated to it.
Shadow...just Shadow <3
#to absolutely nobody's surprise‚ i am very much a shadow fan#i have so many more thoughts but i do plan to eventually write them so i'll save it till then#starslog#lu doppelgänger au#loz headcanons
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Thanks for clarifying the sentence—it mostly made sense but that middle part was giving me serious trouble. I don’t think I would have figured it out without help.
Makes sense that I didn’t get it though—haven’t played totk—so I had zero references. I like seeing the language differences between what I presume is some variant of sky’s Julian compared to wild’s! It’s still intelligible but with very clear differences in spelling.
Adore that the Zonai were the ones to continue on telling the story of the hero of the sky and why. Of course the funky cat/dragon sky people told the story of the hero of the sky! It’s really fun world-building and yeah of course the people living in the sky would relate to a hero from similar circumstances (added bonus of claiming the god slayer to their line of succession). It’s a multipurpose legend!
Furthermore, it explains why Hylia is so prevalent in botw compared to literally any other game (not counting Skyward Sword). The retelling of the hero of the sky meant that some of those cultural practices got passed down to Wild’s era but it shifted from formal worship to more intimate worship. It’s utterly fascinating!
Please continue to give me world building! Are there any other headcanons you have on the other Hyrules or characters?
I wonder what sky’s reaction to knowing how prevalent he is still in wild’s era is?
Of course! To answer that last bit first: he's surprised to know that his hero title is remembered, but he doesn't know the true extent of how much people still know about him. He also isn't aware of how much time is between their eras--he knows that it's pretty distant, but to be fair he's used to interacting with long-lived beings from distant times. Sky hasn't really processed what it means for Wild's era to still remember him.
As for the rest: I'm not sure you understand what you're opening the door for, but I'm always down to talk world building and headcanons so let's go :D
Termina is in Lorule. It's from a timeline where their Triforce was never destroyed, so it's a lot healthier and resembles Hyrule more. Rifts between the lands still exist but are significantly more stable, so it's not uncommon for someone or something from one land to cross into the other. That's how Hilda was able to learn of Hyrule's Triforce--someone from Hyrule fell into their lands. It's more difficult in the other direction, and anyone who left Lorule while it was crumbling away was more than happy to pretend like it never existed, so that's why Zelda didn't know about it.
Seers are a big thing in Hyrule, and are the reason the different timelines know about each other. That said, visions of the past/future are indistinguishable from alternate timelines, so they don't actually know they sometimes see things from alternate realities--they just think they must've gotten something wrong. Seers that are able to catch glimpses of the heroes on their journey will often have their visions recorded as 'history'. This is why the mural in TP's castle town is so weird: it's an amalgamation of OoT and WW.
The Oocca tribe was related to the Interlopers. They used to be the same tribe of Hylian sorcerers that lived within the Sacred Realm. Much like the Sheikah/Yiga of botw, a schism formed and fighting broke out, with the force of their magic threatening to destroy the land. Those who would become the Twili were banished to the Twilight, and the others were sent to the sky (being given the Rito treatment in the process). Neither side would recognize the other, between the physical transformations and the amount of time that's passed.
Agitha(TP) is a descendant of Strich(SS). Her family is one of the oldest in the kingdom--and among the wealthiest.
Weather in this world is the work of spirits (technically they're a kind of fairy). It's all very localized, so that's why things like the Rod of Seasons and Song of Storms don't have disastrous global consequences. The Gale Boomerang houses one such spirit.
The moon cycle is associated with the Golden Goddesses. This is actually something I wrote in one of my wips (this one is gonna take years to finish, I just know it), so I'm gonna copy that section over:
“The moon’s magic only changes during a full moon, but I was talking about the offering part. Nayru is a-so-see-ate-ed with the in-between full and new moons.” Zelda chewed her lip in thought a bit before lighting up. “Because she’s the Goddess of Time!” He nodded with a face-splitting grin. “Din’s the new moon, ‘cuz she’s the start of the cycle and you need her fire to see well during it. And Farore is the full moon, ‘cuz she’s the end of the cycle and blesses the land with new life.”
To build off that last point, the Blood Moon is Ganon hijacking the full moon's normal power of respawning natural resources. And yes, this is my in-universe explanation for how Hyrule's ecosystem recovers so quickly and is so abundant. Ganon is very rightfully jealous--the one from OoT keeps trying to grab the Triforce of Courage for Farore's association but it never works.
And yes, the respawning thing applies to those who hold the Triforce of Courage.
The Downfall Timeline is already a retcon in of itself so I don't care too much about changing details: the hero never opened the door to the Sacred Realm in that timeline.
Chuchus take on the properties of magic they absorb, with varying degrees of efficiency depending on the era. Most are carnivorous and prefer to eat things while they are alive--the ones in TP have a broad enough diet to consume all ingredients necessary to brew a potion with their own body.
Cuccos aren't actually animals--they're actually related to the Lizalfos/Dynalfos/Aeralfos line. Much like Wolfos, Hylians domesticated them anyway.
#gonna stop there because i will keep going and that is a threat#loz headcanons#starslog#eh it probably does count as#lu doppelgänger au
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