#starred out the name bc I'm sharing my thoughts and am open to discussion but don't want to open this can of worms
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konnfusion · 7 months ago
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l*ngl*gs spoilers //
lotta (cis) people telling on themselves when they come out of a movie featuring an aged glam rock dude with long hair who got into satanism and has a violent obsession with young girls, and come to the "long hair + 'weird' voice = trans woman / trans coding" conclusion about said character when nothing in the text of the film is about that whatsoever.
to me, it's a movie about trying to live with childhood trauma (however that looks), and about how our society values girlhood so much that we don't want that to blossom into womanhood, and the violent lengths some men will go to to stop that growing-up in its tracks. it's asking if it's better to live a stilted life because of gaps in your memory due to trauma, or to die at the hands of said trauma. it's about how the fixation on the Satanic Panic--an evil outside the home--often obfuscates the evil that already existed in the home, and about how trauma can be wrought both by absent parents and by obsessive, overbearing ones.
reducing that to "actually it's about how queer people are evil and destroying the nuclear family (derogatory)" is losing the forest for the trees. the titular character is a burnout hair metal dude who wanted to be a glam rock icon, who, instead of finding Jesus in his later years, found Satan instead. and that's much more interesting and also less reductive, imo! valid if anyone has a bad taste in their mouth from the public/pop culture perceptions of B*ffalo B*ll and SotL, but this movie is a different beast entirely.
(but also, sweet jesus, no, this movie is not the director's excuse to be homophobic to his late dad! also that opinion piece was written by a cis guy who thinks, among other things, that Miss Piggy is a domestic abuser; not really gonna put any stock in anything he writes.)
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ambreiiigns · 10 months ago
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PLS discuss rick's love w birdperson
GOD the call of old man yaoi innit. easy website. ok let's just go over every birdperson moment in the show to Explain the Story
we first meet birdperson in the s1 finale. morty's parents go on a trip and rick has to babysit the kids and by that i mean rick and summer throw a fuckass party and rick invites all kind of fookin creatures including birdperson (the crowd goes wild) at said party pers meets summer's best friend tammy and they. hook up and start dating. tragedy. but what also happens is we have our first hashtag emotional plot twist when it's revealed that rick's stupid fucking wubba lubba dub dub I HATE IT catchphrase is actually a normal phrase in pers' language! that very simply means "i am in great pain please help me". i have so many thoughts and prayers about rick choosing to express something so vulnerable in pers' language. (we will later see him choose to be vulnerable to/for pers so that's just a Thing. ig.) he travels the entire universe he could have easily chosen a language No One of the Few People be keeps around understands but he chose pers' language. some might say he trusts pers enough. batshit already.
anyway both the first and iirc second time we see pers morty's mad w rick and pers has his back and defends him and convinces morty to stick around which is. so polite of him. but something i Also wanna mention early on is that pers and rick met sometime in rick's idk young adulthood while he's out there killing other ricks. they meet at some kind of festival and rick's carrying like alien vape in a backpack and pers takes a hit and they pick up squanchy somewhere too (they're the Main Dudes In The Gang) they have a band. briefly. lmao. but also they're rebels fighting The Federation. rick calls it his star wars phase or smth. ok we'll get back to this era later
now. s2 finale. one of the Best Episodes. pers and tammy are getting married!!!!! [cursed emoji] and rick is SO GRUMPY abt it. he doesn't wanna go but they drag him along and once he's at the ceremony he gets so drunk he's like. almost passed out. rick is Always some level of drunk so for him to be like. going limp fnajfnjat it has to be Astronomical levels right. yet he picks himself back up enough to give a little speech proclaiming birdperson as his best friend and that he'll go along w whatever makes him happy so if pers loves tammy then rick loves tammy too!! and calls it his greatest adventure - opening himself up to others! and immediately after tammy reveals she's an undercover agent of the federation and Shoots Birdperson Dead. and rick cries out his name and goes nooooo. horrid
the federation then pieces pers back together w robot bits and sends him off to kill rick, rick knocks him out but doesn't kill him he just takes him home to fix him up as close to Before as he can but pers has sort of. put himself in a coma bc he Did care abt tammy. and not only did she betray him but now rick has also Killed her so he kinda just wants to rot and die. so. this is also one of my fave episodes. rick has to go in pers' mind and memories and convince him to basically come back to life. this is where we get their whole backstory !! as said they met at a festival and fucked around until rick joined the rebellion. it started as pers helping rick w "his stuff" and rick helping pers w "his stuff" in exchange. i'm realizing i'm making it sound like they were taking turns jerking each other off but what i mean is yea rick helps pers w the federation but pers helps rick w killing other ricks. so basially rick joins the rebellion for pers?? 🤨
culminates in blood ridge which is this big ass battle between federation and rebels and it ends WELL. they WIN. but rick talks abt blood ridge like it was a 9/11 type event so you're like WHY is he sad abt blood ridge. and then we see it. at the end of the battle rick is once again emotionally vulnerable w pers and he shares his Big Secret w him. his portal gun that can take him anywhere in any universe. he asks pers to go w him wherever he wants. i'm reminded of rick initially turning down rick prime's offer bc "it sounds lonely" and. i guess it fucking is. he wanted his best friend w him. he reveals a fundamental part of his mindset he always brings up - that there's countless versions of reality and therefore nothing matters, so pers asks him. if nothing matters why did you help me? and rick tells him. because you matter to me. pers reads this as the Fucking Love Confession That It Fucking Is, and Awkwardly Turns Rick Down As Such. fucking friendzones the fucker. he goes "our relationship,,," and rick doesn't deny nor correct him!! he just goes like OH MY GODDDD DON'T DRAG IT OUT JUST SAY NOOOO
anyway. this trip in pers' mind. rick has teamed up w a younger rick from pers' memories and after seeing blood ridge he's like ok i get why you were so bitter. it wasn't the battle that went bad. why do you wanna save pers then? and our rick goes because you love him. and memory rick goes I don't YOU love him maybe. and our rick is like yea bet are you gonna help or not. and he's so serious and focused bc this is SERIOUS. so once they finally do get to pers and rick tries to convince him to come back to life basically lmao pers is like i'm SORRY i'm not over tammy unfort we can't choose the ones we love HE SAYS THAT TO RICK'S FACE??? and in fact rick gets pissy and goes YEAH NO SHIT WHY DO YOU THINK I'M STILL IN HERE. he reveals pers has a fuckin daughter out there and pers decides to come back to take care of her he thanks rick for not giving up on him but quickly fucks off without his usual politeness bc he's a bit mad at rick anyway. fair
when we see him again in s7 he's having a hard time parenting his rebellious birddaughter but agrees to hanging out w rick and their friends and they seem chill. i hope to see him more next season i genuinely adore him so much. the only people rick is THIS weak for are like. morty obviously summer on some level and his fuckin Daughter. Y Birdperson. the only time he admits to someone that they're special is to beth and pers. not even morty gets to hear it ‼️ we also have like them kissing w tongue in the comics once and a faggy little musical number but those are just Barely canon. what Is canon is that rick is queer which is forever really funny to me. and he goes and has a one sided unrequited situationship w some bird dilf like. who's doing it like him. the you need a high iq to understand rick and morty crowd ain't ready for this
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jils-things · 5 months ago
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GIVING BIG HIGH FIVE TO EKANS ANON!!
THE STARGAZING DATE IDEA AGHHHH (that idea also came to my mind tbh because it's so ouuughhgg <33 ALSO NAIB LIKES MOONLIT NIGHTS AND WHAT IS THERE ALSO AT NIGHT?? RIGHT, STARS. PERFECT DATE IDEA OMGGGG) (Me is living on his wiki page since the last few days, it doesn't even show "you visit this often" bc I'm on it 24/7 hjfgjskgkg)
All of our s/i should meet to discuss date ideas and gush about their (future) boyfriends!! The guys can stay at home - might be better for them pfffttt
Ok that being said @ Jil:
GIGGLING YESYESS his ponytail is def my fav part of him, it warms my heart that it makes you think of meee ;w; I GOT JIL'S PERMISSION TO ASK FOR NAIB'S HAND WAAAAH LESGOO Ehehehe love that Irene would be excited about it!! Maybe she'd tease him a bit in a good sibling manner? like "are you blushing? Who are you thinking about? :>" and he just replies "shut up" x'D
WAAH TRUE I think the same, as he seems to have had a quite.. dangerous and difficult time, he's not used to people being soft to him and SI IS HERE TO SHOW HIM!! TEACHING HIM WHAT LOVE IS AAHH (aghhhh I need a name for si damn)
I DID SEE THAT!! KEEP THE NORTON TABS OPEN YOU WANNA SEE HIM SO MUCH GO LOOK AT YOUR HUSBAND >:] /jk
I like to stay a mystery tbh but I'm also curious if you can guess who I am 👀 Tiny hint: We're mutuals (but I'm shy af, I think this is the longest convo I ever had with you hgjfgkg) I don't follow you as long as Ekans anon I guess but I know the Stevaide and Redjaide era and uhhhh we already have f/o's from the same source :] (Me waiting for the moment I forget to have anon on before sending, then it's over for me Haha)
-mouse anon, who is too lazy to look for the emoji (sorry that my asks are always so long)
imagine you and him under the moonlight and you'd think he's staring at the stars but hes actually staring at you the whole time he just hopes you arent noticing 🥰🥰🥰🥰 HEHEHEHEHRHJEJEEHHE (AAKDJDJFHHFD OMFG YOU BASICALLY HAVE IT BOOKMARKEDDDD IM LAUGHING KWKWKWKW 💚💚💚 OHH YOU CAN'T STOP THINKING OF HIM HAHA 😁😁😁😋
aryon, irene and mouse si are having a nicey nice dinner date, sharing ideas, thoughts and talking abt their weird bfs <33 EGEGEJJEJRHR bro imagine an astronomer, rich lady and a poor pickpocket in the same room... you'd think its gonna be a mess but they're all getting along :]]]]]
EHEHEHE BIG YESSS shes the type to immediately notice when he's acting differently. i bet he looks clouded in thought most of the time which is so rare for someone who's vigilant. i feel like irene is the type to throw random light punches at him to see his quick reflexes but one day he just... lets her hand press against his face slowly and she's like ohhh you're thinking about the nice girl huuhhhh......... EHEHEHHEHRHEHRHE and then she smiles evil at him... she would sought out every chance to talk about the nice girl and try to remind him "oh the stars look nice. do you know who else is stars. um. the nice lady im talking about the nice lady HOW IS NICE LA--" SHES VERY NOSY ONCE SHE FIND OUT, THAT'S BASICALLY THE GIST EHEHHRKEKEKRT and he just turns her shoulders away from him. go away. im on duty 💢💢💢
no i don't wanna see my husband im busy idk what youre talking about (closes my pinterest board) nope idk at all 💚💚💚 SKSKSJFHFJJGG
NOT GONNA LIE, I HAD A LONG SNEAKING SUSPICION OF WHO IT MIGHT BE (and i have this bad habit of guessing anons' real url HAHAHFHS) AND NOW THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED SOME INTERESTING HINTS, I THINK I CAN CONFIDENTLY TELL WHO IT IS HEHEHDHEHEH not that ill say here but i know 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫 AND IF IM FUCKING RIGHT, KNOW THAT I AGREE AND ITS SO NICE TO FINALLY HAVE A NICE LONG CONVO WITH YOU GRKGKTKGKGK HEEEHEEHEE
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yukipri · 2 years ago
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The Bad Batch Season 2 - Mid-Season Eps 7 & 8 Spoilers & Thoughts
Ranted it out on twitter last night and forgot to share here.
LOT of thoughts this time
Major Spoilers beneath cut!
Really trully phenomenal writing, so much more than I expected to be said so explicitly. Open discussion of clones' rights, their futures, their lack of personhood under both the Republic and the Empire, even the threat of decommissioning.
What we always knew, what we wanted explicitly addressed in mainstream canon, stated by the clones themselves. Truly ecstatic about these episodes.
Absolutely loved the confirmation that yes, this is what Rex has been doing all along. We saw it implied with Gregor in S1, but it's so good to see it clearly stated, and to see him in action. It makes me hope he got Cody out too.
It also made me crave a show dedicated entirely to this fight. I once again understand and am okay with the TBB centering solely around the Batch. But it's hard not to be anxious knowing what all the other clones are facing. Which makes me understand Echo even more.
Echo's decision. I knew it would come to a boiling point, trusted it would. I'd hoped that Echo would convince Hunter + co to care, but they have their own priorities. I love Echo more bc he decided he couldn't walk away.
He said that his place was with the Batch, and I like to think that he found some kind of home with them. But unlike the rest of them, he sees the rest of the clones as his brothers too. I hope this isn't the last we see of him, but I know he is loved and respected with Rex.
These episodes were a wealth of nostalgic locations, and seeing each one caused such a beautiful ache. I love all the lush new planets explored in the other episodes, but Coruscant felt like coming home.
The specific locations: 79s, the Senate building, Riyo's room that looks so much liked Padmé's, the Martez sisters' place, the clone memorial, the lower levels, even the star destroyer, the stunning of the troops specifically evoking S7's finale. Everything the same but different.
We didn't get to see all of these places with the new graphics, bc TCW S7 only had 4 arcs and TBB S1 covered a lot of newer locations. But gosh what a treat. It was all so beautiful, both aesthetically and metaphorically. Defs need to rewatch so many times to truly appreciate.
Rampart's fall surprised me, bc I did feel he's the lone Big Bad of the show so far, the true embodiment of anti-clone. He's done a lot of unforgivable things and having Palps lock him up isn't satisfying, even if it was surprising. I unfortunately doubt that's the last we've seen of him, though who knows. I admittedly don't care too much either way, but if he's gone, it'll be interesting to see who steps into the next "main antag" shoes, bc I doubt it's Palps himself.
IAN MCDIARMID.
TRULY THE KING.
(or should I say, Emperor)
RIYO.
I'm so glad to see her again
(also, apparently I've been saying her first name wrong all this time??? Am I the only one who's been saying Ree-yo when it apparently shoulda been Rai-yo?)
Rex had his tiddies uncovered the whole time and I was so concerned he'd get shot. i mean he's the only chara guaranteed to live, and I'm also glad he's got a better disguise, but dear please wear some protection
(but yeah ngl it's nice that we got to see him armorless with the beefier new model. I am still remembering TCW Saleucami and thinking my gosh this man is a STICK he is STARVED they ALL ARE. I am always for adding more beef to clones.)
Really curious where they're going with the chips brainwashing the clones. Both Rex and Wrecker appeared conscious of the whole time they were under, trying and unable to stop and remembering it afterwards.
Yet other clones seem to be gradually "waking up," even though many of them likely should have been equally horrified at the moment O66 went live. Rex and the Batch aren't exceptions being Good Guys, the vast majority of the clones are extremely loyal and honorable.
Makes me wonder if after an extended time under the chip's control, that feeling of wrongness/fighting against it fades, until it seems the new ordinary? But then the more time passes, the Order weakens, and they're able to feel more discrepancies, hence the desertions?
The clone assassin definitely seemed super "under" an Order, extremely Off and not himself, like what I'd imagine a freshly O66 clone to be like. Which makes me further curious that Rampart had him (and presumably more like him) under his control. We'll have to see!
But yeah, to conclude: Cody didn't die! (didn't show up!) Named clones I cared about too much in the few minutes we had them DID die and I am still sad but, it could have been worse.
Also huh, not even a glimpse of Crosshair? (feeling a wee bit bad for his fans, that out of the first 8 eps, he's only in one of them...hopefully the next one will be about him ^ ^; )
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