#stampede negativity

[yoshilisk]

WHAT Is happening in trigun stampede... i don't watch it i'm just nosy and i like hearing people hate on stuff... talk about it‼️‼️‼️

so um. i'm gonna do a readmore bc i rambled a lot and also what in the goddamn

so, some context assuming you're not familiar with The Lore. in trigun, humans are able to survive in terrible conditions because of plants: creatures that can create electricity, food, water, all kinds of things. they can't live outside of a controlled atmosphere, so they're kept in large glass containers. in the manga they look like angelic beings; in stampede, presumably for "gotta make the names literal" reasons, they look like alien fairies with flower petal wings. in both cases they're always feminine-looking.

vash and his twin brother, knives, are independent plants--they look like humans and can survive in the outside world. in the manga, vash & knives often refer to the other plants as their sisters, and vice versa. iirc the plants call vash "red brother" which is cute :)

anyway. context over. in the most recent episode of trigun stampede, knives has abducted vash and put him in some Sci-Fi Water. this allows him to invade vash's mind by stabbing him with his knives (which he makes from his body, and that's why he's called knives. this is actually NOT a case of orange trying to make all the names literal--he was always like that). he spends the episode erasing vash's memories to, in his view, "fix" vash's love for humans. during that process vash becomes petrified and sprouts a bunch of tree roots. some of the roots reach out and attach to some plants nearby.

a scientist working for knives gives exposition: in this version, plants are able to create things by pulling from a "higher dimension." he asks, rhetorically, why independents like vash & knives have free will and the other plants don't. then he says it's because the others are just husk bodies that don't have souls. so knives is going to use vash's unique special powers to go to the higher dimension, touch the "core," and give all the plants souls.

then the plants lower their petal-wings to reveal their bodies. the tree roots coming from vash are attached to their... very pregnant-looking stomachs, and their faces are agape.

not only is NONE of this anything like the original story, but i just... i genuinely don't know what the point of it all is. i've seen people say that last part is playing into a theme of bodily autonomy being stolen, but i still really do not like it. the manga also had themes of autonomy re: the plants, but it was generally in a "being treated as a tool or an object, not a person" way. labor exploitation type stuff. not... the main character being (either metaphorically or literally) forced to impregnate a bunch of his fellow kind?? who, again, were referred to in the original version as HIS SISTERS???

there's also the fact that stampede has repeatedly minimized and shaved the edges off of female characters, so they're less capable, less important, and have less agency. i feel that the plants being said to have no free will in this version is one more example of that. add in a scene where they're forcefully impregnated and are basically props for shock value, and it just... it feels really bad.

overall my thought is that it's needlessly gratuitous and fucking weird. not that the manga is innocent of being needlessly gratuitous (looking at a certain scene in legato's backstory 😕), but i'd hope for an adaptation to be better about that, y'know? not make up new, different things to be gratuitous about.

(oh, and as a side-gripe, stampede previously downplayed knives being a very paternalistic, "this is for your own good" type character. originally, he cut vash's left arm off because he was mad that vash tried to defy him and just generally wouldn't listen to him about humans being bad. stampede changed it so that he cut vash's arm off to save vash from getting absorbed by a magic sci-fi black hole. now he's back to being paternalistic? make up your mind)

[ruporas]

vw sketches (id in alt)

[ohitslen]

Intrusive thoughts

[nebularyo]

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[rennyrose]

I adore Vivio as well just two very kind but very broken people trying their very best hhhhhhhhhh

But Chyeah one of my fav things about their dynamic is how comfortable they are around each other- esp with Vash being so trusting of Liv from nearly the very get-go

Whether it’s goofin together or having a deep moment, it comes easy to them-

I like the idea that whenever LR are around it means that it’s time to Rest™️ for Vash, mind and heart at peace knowing everything will be alright since they’re there (even if it gets in the way of quality time sometimes)

[buccellato]

I personally think it would be very amusing if Tesla gets revived alongside Knives in Stargaze and spends her entire time being rude to him and nitpicking his actions based off of some petty grievances. Like imagine he's trying to do one of his little murder speeches and she steps out of the shadows where she was standing (menacingly) going "Hey remember that time you got a whole cake for your Birthday? I never got a birthday cake. And you guys got a whole one to yourselves" or just going "Oh that's a cool thought, did you best friend Child Killer Conrad give it to you?"

Just real hater energy from her

[ragefear]

My negative space study of my Wolfwood and Vash popup parade figs from the art class I'm taking :3 I've never played around with ink before; I really enjoyed it! Gonna have to fuck round with it more for sure :D

[revenantghost]

*places face in hands*

Wolfwood becomes himself when he stops following Knives's path

Wolfwood becomes Wolfwood when he instead follows Vash

[hundredsspoons]

You know what would be really funny? If Knives succeeded in making Vash forget everything so that he could be turned against humanity except. he still doesn't turn against humanity.

No idea who he is, what's going on, where they are, what a gun even is, but he's still hopelessly dedicated to Not Hurting People for some reason because it's part of who he is, deeper than any memory Knives can take and. Literally nothing about his core personality or beliefs change. He manages to escape, and the twins go back to the same game of cat and mouse they've been playing for 150 years. But Vash just doesn't remember Knives anymore. Wouldn't Knives. feel a bit silly. a bit. foolish. :)

[realmjumper]

EP 10 - 11 Trigun Stampede !!SPOILER!! (based off preview for EP 11)

We all know how arrogant Nai, or Knives is. He always believes he's right. He thinks his way is correct. He thinks he can fix Vash.

and he is convinced, of course, that Vash would survive the process.

(this is an AU explored through Nai dreaming! I think it's pretty neat if he suffers through some shit. Better yet, Knives probably NEVER sleeps, so this would be a first too)

[realboutfatalfury]

glove and fish!!!!!

[yoshilisk]

stampede being seen as progressive for its female characters because people don't know the source material... genuinely sad to me

[rattoes420]

This is slightly older teehee

[weirdcat1213]

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[arttsuka]

Just something that's been bothering me. What's up with the whitewashing in trigun stampede?

Somehow the 1998 version had more diversity in skin colors than the 2023 version

[blu3mila]

we didn’t have a printer when i was a kid, so i had to resort to drawing my big heart anime people myself, however poorly. i’m happy, and proud, that i can do this now. sure. i’ll draw you an anime. whatever anime you want.･:*:･ﾟ’✫,’✫’ﾟ･:*