#st5 masterpost

[aurorabyler]

Masterpost: Stranger Things Theories (Mainly Byler)

Hi everyone!! I've been missing making theories and the energy of summer 2022 (and just any stranger things release era for that matter), so I thought I'd compile my theories and important posts into one big master post! Enjoy, and feel free to share :) I can't wait to make more theories and analyses once we get more content.

Will's First Lie and First I Love You: Musical Symbolism Analysis

This one is a personal favourite of mine--I really recommend you check it out. The Stranger Things soundtrack is more than just pretty synthwave songs...it is integral to the story and the repetition and remixing of certain soundtracks really shows the amount of love and care that has gone into the show. This post describes the connection between the songs "The First Lie," "The First I love You," and "Being Different."

Flashbacks in Stranger Things: When, Why, and How They Are Used (Long Analysis)

This analysis applies a lot of key writing skills to a byler-focused analysis, with an emphasis on the varying use of flashback as a literary device across the show. From my analysis, you'll see that the way flashbacks have been used across Stranger Things, and particularly season 4, tell an interesting story about the more "real" relationships in the show.

Destruction: Byler's Repeating Musical Motif (With Video!)

I feel like this post is kind of underrated, but it's such an important musical symbolism moment, much like "The First Lie..Love You...Being Different" connection! It's yet another repeating musical motif that actually spans THREE seasons of the show and started in season one. Give it a read (and a watch!)

Comparing David Harbour and Noah Schnapp's Interviews About ST5

There are quite a few striking similarities between the way Noah and David have spoken about the end of Stranger Things. Check them out here!

Interpreting the Surfer Boy Pizza Scene: Leading Up to Breakup

This analysis looks at the scene between Mike and El at surfer boy pizza and argues that if it was leading up to an "I love you" or them getting back together, there needed to be more emotional buildup to that during El's time at the Nina project or Mike's on the road.

Will Byers Has the Power Vecna Needs to Deal with What He Hates Most: Time Itself

Ooooh, I love this one too! This theory looks at the pretty much inevitable relationship between Will and Vecna, and how time could play a key role in that.

Parallels Between El and Will Feeling Different

A short one, but this is a key parallel between how El and Will both feel different, and how Mike responds to that.

Significance of "A Book of Letters"

Why it's important that Will specifically mentions El having "a book of letters" from Mike.

Willel: I'd Get Him to Swap Our Places

My thoughts on willel and the potential significance of "Running Up That Hill" to their connection

"You're The Heart" and "Her Heart Stopped"

A little analysis of the connection between Mike's failed monologue and Max's heart stopping.

Brenner and Mike: Superhero Discussion Parallels

I feel like this topic is underrated in the fandom generally, but it deserves more attention as it's probably one of the most outright parallels that we have...lol...it's literally spoonfed to us. Give it a read :)

My Fan Expo Audio of Finn Talking About Mike's Pocket

Just a fun little addition! Fan Expo was such a fun experience :)

Thoughts on Response to Finn's Acting From GA and Implications for Byler

"Finn is expressionless during Melvin scenes!" yeah...maybe because that's the point? LOL

Me Roasting Mike's Arc if Taken At Face Value

Just....LOL. It's just funny.

Endgame Ships Not Needing to Say "I Love You"

What do the seemingly endgame ships have in common? They show, not tell their love for each other.

I hope you enjoy reading my posts! <3

[will80sbyerss]

So, pretty sure this isn't even gonna show up in the tag but they got my Tumblr down, not sure if I'll get it back, but if you want to follow me again and in particular if we were mutuals and chatting in private you can find me here now!

I'll be reposting the GIFs and other things here and remaking the production masterpost since I've got it all saved but it's gonna take a bit of time, luckily I do love organizing stuff ❤️

I still got a fever so I don't think I'll be connected much but I'll be back when I'm feeling well again!!

As I slowly rebuild all the resources...

TO DONATE TO A FAMILY IN GAZA

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ALL MY ST GIFSETS MASTERPOST

BYLER PARALLELS GIFS MASTERPOST

MY PRO BI MIKE POWER POINT (it's old from right after season 4 so some small ideas may have evolved and changed in these years but in general it's the same)

my writing if you're interested (it's mid tbh) is tagged: w80swriting

gifs (only st or parallels to st) made by me are tagged: will80sbyersgifs

GIFs of other TV shows: w80stvgifs

GIFs of movies: w80smoviegifs

other relevant tags: St foreshadowing | St details | St5 production | St5 speculation | ST5 spoilers

Marauders/jegulus sideblog: @hollowstarchaser

Multifandom/personal sideblog: @oswinix

[bylrlve]

Warning! Potential Spoilers for Stranger Things Season 5! Exciting for Bylers!

Total confirmed M*leven scenes so far: kiss in a field in episode one, and rooftop conversation, also likely in episode one. There is a staggered time skip through episode one - unclear if chronological, or through flashbacks, but it means we have no idea when this kiss actually takes place in the chronology of the show.

Despite what Alex insinuates, that is literally it, as far as leakers know, until episode 3. Everyone is at the mansion set in that episode for at least one scene, prior to splitting off into groups and venturing into the upside down in episode 4. One presumes they may interact in the mansion scene, but even that is unknown. That literally is it up to episode 6, which is what they’re filming now - as far as leakers are aware, but it’s pretty clear when you look at Finn’s schedule vs Millie’s.

(Gifs from a video by @byler-endgayme)

Meanwhile, this is what has leaked about Byler so far:

Episode 2; the bike ride. Ep 2 according to the Twitter stranger things update account. If this is a school run in the morning, Will may be living at the Wheelers - supported by the bts pic with seven chairs at the table. If not, he’s likely just visiting Mike at the house - but it still shows that Will is part of Mike’s domestic routine, and that he occupies a partner role.

A lot happens for/to the wheelers in episode 2: karen possibly gets injured here, holly gets taken here apparently, Mike gets hurt at the hospital along with several other people (confirmed) and Will shows up crying and blaming himself. Rovickie, jancy, and byler are there: Will is there for Mike, El is not.

Episode 3: everyone is at the mansion set before breaking off into UD groups. This includes Mike, Will, El, and it’s notable that, from context, it seems like it dovetails into Mike and Will choosing each other as partners for… (life) the Upside Down.

Episode 4: the flashback with 8yo Will, 8yo Mike, and 13yo Jonathan. Will and Jon don’t speak, Mike does.

Episode 6: a scene at a church covered in vines with just Mike and Will.

The scenes at the farm with Mike, Robin, Will, and apparently Vickie happen around 503-4, and Mike a and Will are wearing the same clothes in the hand-stack picture as in the leaked Duffer birthday video from early February - see @will80sbyers and @justmy-account’s excellent production masterposts. Mike apparently has his own subplot with Robin, and we know Robin and Will have 1:1 scenes…

There’s been some kerfuffle over a an actor named Jacob Moran being followed on Instagram by Noah recently - but he’s followed Noah, Caleb, and Jamie for years, and as he was working on a project in Atlanta until recently, it seems more likely that he’s a friend of Noah’s than that he’s Will’s NPC Love Interest. Once again, that trail goes cold…

Speaking of, it’s amusing and frustrating to me that when some random acc on Twitter says Will has an NPC Love Interest people pay attention, but when Mytimetoshinehello, a reliable enough leak account, first says in May that he has a love interest and then privately DMS people saying it’s a new character, only to privately tweet to paid subscribers (ie not for attention) saying that they hear it is Mike, people don’t pick up on it. Of course, the UpsideDownScoops account did delete their tweet and proceed to bullshit about why it’s not Mike, so…

Big Screen Leaks is a very reliable general spoilers acc that announced they had st5 spoilers in may 2023. They said on Sunday, during a q&a, that they’re not sharing anything… something weird is going on. They also follow MTTSH.

Noah and MTTSH both had a similar trajectory. The latter went from privately saying in DMs that it’s not Mike to saying to their subs that it is. The former went from being pessimistic when he had the first few scripts to going on TT live right before filming in january and saying ‘byler endgame byler kiss’ very excitedly - he had up to episode 6. They got the ep 7 script in March, and on March 27 he liked a tiktok showing Mike and Will’s BTS pics with a boyfriends 💙💛’ caption.

The statement by the duffers that we’re returning to s1 dynamics is interesting, given that Mike and Will are together so much while Mike and El aren’t. Re: Mike, perhaps they mean that his primary focus is keeping Will… with an ending of finding new romance, perhaps? All in all? I’m so hyped.

TLDR: Bylers are eating no matter what, in terms of screentime and content. M*levens… sad trombone noise.

UPDATE TO ADD: https://x.com/byrhop/status/1811804426492907787?s=46

[paladinsbrainrot]

does anybody want to help me out because i am so confused about jonathan's outfit for my st5 masterpost.... do you guys think these are the same outfit??? they look VERYYY similar imo barring a few differences, mainly the pants, however pic #2 was taken at the same time joyce & will were spotted in their 3rd outfits, so idk.... lmk your opinions !

pic #1 (jonathan's 2nd outfit of st5)

pic #2 (jonathan's supposed 3rd outfit of st5??)

i'm just a little confused bc this photo below was taken on the same day the jonathan one was taken. will and joyce are on their third outfits of the season while dustin and nancy are only on their second. (do NOT get me started about robin's i have noooo idea what is going on there)

[themissingnumbers]

KANTO TRAINERS MASTERPOST

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> "FIRE" RED YUUJI

So you are a boy, then? Very good. You are the face of the new generation. You were designed to be beloved by all, and rest assured, you will be. You are the protagonist that everyone knows. You are the hero that everyone loves. No ill fate will befall you. This world revolves around you, after all.

FIRE's story is based on: Snow on Mount Silver. Blue's Tears. Lost Silver.

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> LEAF AOYAMA

So you are a girl, then? I see. Unfortunately, your presence was deemed unnecessary for the new generation. Still, many took a shining to you, didn't they? And you're quite persistent... Oh, alright. But your presence won't come without a cost. Lucky that you're such a strong, independent young lady, hm? And nothing more.

LEAF's story is based on: Abandoned Loneliness. Fallen Leaf.

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> BLUE GARY OAK

Er, what was his name again? Oh, right- Blue! This is your rival. Your very first rival, in fact! How exciting! Though he's set a bit of a troublesome precedent for the archetype, it seems everyone remembers him... Do keep an eye on him, would you? It seems like he's always getting into trouble. That boy never learns.

BLUE's story is based on: Blue's Tears. Abandoned Loneliness.

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> "GLITCHY" RED TAJIRI

What? I don't understand. Who?

Oh... I deeply apologize. It appears this data is invalid. Pokemon Red? Oh, no no no. We ought to let the past stay buried, don't you think? Things have only gotten bigger and better!

THIS world is kinder to them. THIS world is far more stable. THIS world is so much better. THIS world is where they're supposed to be.

THAT world... And you, unfortunately... Are all far beyond salvaging. There's no place for you.

Please accept this fact. We can't afford you breaking anything.

RED's story is based on: Glitchy Red. Ketsuban.

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> RAN "YELLOW" TOKIHARA

{A signpost reads: Gone Fishing}

Your team consists of: DODRIO, NIDORAN, KINGDRA, OMANYTE, MAGIKARP, and PIKACHU.

Yellow's story is inspired by a series of glitches in Pokemon Yellow.

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> STEVEN WATANABE

YOUR NAME WAS STE______ STOUGHTON. YOU RAN AWAY WITH YOUR BROTHER TO START A NEW LIFE. YOU BOTH CHANGED YOUR NAMES, AND LIVED IN PALETTE TOWN. YOU BOTH WERE SO HAPPY. YOU LOVED HIM. YOU LOVED YOUR POKEMON. YOU LOVED YOUR LIFE. YOU WERE SO GREAT.

BUT HE MADE A MISTAKE.

Y0U M4DE A M!STAK3.

4ND S0 YOU S

/0UR T3AM (0NS!ST5 0F MIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMIKIMI

STEVEN's Story is based on Strangled Red.

> MIKE WATANABE

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/0U S 4Y Y0U'R3 S0rR Y

TH1S WASN'T H0W /OU W4NTED ANYTH1NG TO GO.

YOU JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT ALL BETTER.

LIVE A BETTER LIFE

WITH YOUR FRIENDS

NEIGHBORS

BROTHER.

INSTEAD

YOU REST

NO PEACE

BELOW

THE

COAST

YOUR HEAD SEVERED

FROM YOUR BODY

YET STILL

WIDE AWAKE

AS IT FEEDS

DESPERATE TO ESCAPE

MIKE's story is based on Strangled Red.

[miaoumeowmiaw]

are there more or fewer leaks of st5 compared to st4? i wasn't in the fandom back then, curious if we know more now or not

Fewer. Not a lot of people remember what happened, but we had enough information to not even need to watch ST4.

You can still find the masterposts of the original ST4 leaks on r/HawkinsAVClub. We knew majority of the plot involving Henry before the Monopoly game was released early.

Sources would post information on their own accounts. The airport scene was leaked in a YouTube comment section, and the r/HawkinsAVClub moderators were part of the production team.

[wheelerpilled]

Reminder that if you're pro-israel block me. Dni. Or even if you are remaining neutral!!!!!! 🇵🇸

There is a genocide still ongoing! Read this post before interacting with my page as it's important.

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And no. By supporting Palestine I don't mean supporting Hamas.

I mean supporting the civilians who have been bombed, killed, and displaced by Israeli attacks. The innocents who are being slaughtered. Those who are the victims in this horrific genocide.

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Block me if you remain neutral. I just can't fathom how anyone can remain on the fence after hearing about the one-sided onslaught in Gaza. Stand with Palestine or stay away from my page as you are not welcomed here. Please, if you don't know alot about the situation that well- ATTEMPT to educate yourself! It is not an excuse to remain neutral due to not knowing the extent of the situation. The resources are readily available.

Sorry if this sounds blunt, my intentions are just in support of spreading awareness for Palestine.

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here is a link to a useful masterpost of ways you can educate yourself about Palestine and support them.

Please take a look.

While most of us sit privileged and comfortable there is a GENOCIDE ONGOING. This is not meant to be rude or come across as aggressive. it is just a fact. Alot of people (including myself) will probably (and hopefully) never have to firsthand experience such horrors that Palestinians are going through. the fact that innocent people, including innocent CHILDREN AND INFANTS are suffering in such unimaginable ways is vile. it's heartbreaking how cruel the situation is.

I am forever grateful that I am not in such a horrible situation and it's so important that we never take it for granted, so please, all of us can contribute in some way shape or form, no matter how small it may seem. Every contribution helps. Even if it's supporting in free ways without donating.

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Remember to DO YOUR CLICK EVERYDAY. IT TAKES A SECOND AND IT IS FREE.

-i understand some people can't donate. But there is no reason not to take a moment to CLICK A BUTTON everyday. Everything adds up and helps.

even if you don't, just remember to engage with any pro-palestine posts you come across in your feed. Please, spread awareness no matter how you do it. Educate yourself and others on what's happening in the world and about the conflict if you are able to.

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Yes I am aware I'm a ST blog, a show of which has Zionist cast members- I would like to make it clear now that I do NOT align myself with such vulgar and cruel views and neither should you!! I have no respect for Brett Gelman, Noah Schnapp or ANY other Zionists. I pirate any content I wish to watch from big streaming sites and I will not be streaming ST5 on Netflix or funding a subscription that will benefit Zionists. I won't shame anyone for doing otherwise but I advise people to look into alternative ways of seeing content... especially content of which could POTENTIALLY fund Zionists!!!

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That's all, thank you- please remember to stand with and support Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸.

[wheelercore]

I've been taking your Rosegate masterposts one at a time for now (mostly so I can take my time to chew on them properly) and (I mean this positively) it's crazy how your posts have reframed the way I think about the similarities between the Creel and Wheeler homes !!! I haven't gotten that far yet, so I'm not sure if you've already tackled it, but is the "curse that unfortunately affects the Creels" that you've mentioned something that originated from Ted's mother? How does that fit in with the TFS canon? Sorry if you've made a post about this already, I haven't gotten that far yet through your master posts :")

-Mikepostings anon :D

Hello again Mikeposting anon!! :p

Lol i feel bad now because my rosegate masterpost is a hot mess :3. Now that I think about it, I have development rosegate(tm) so far passed the initial blurb I wrote in 2023 (2022?) on that post so I'm think I might either delete the summary beforehand entirely and just leave the links or update it (eg. granddaddy wheeler is not really a thing in my mind anymore).

When it comes to TFS canon, honestly, I just don't know if i should take take the play at face value. Yeah I know, mighty convenient for me, but there are so many things that just don't make sense, are inconsistent with the show (I mean ted and karen are blonde) (actually idk if karen is actually blonde in TFS but from the shots I've seen it... looks like it? But it just might be the lighting) (and also the characters ages are all over the place), and just seems frankly bizarre compared to the established characters in the show (eg lonnies character). That is not to say that I believe TFS is meaningless, it's clearly full of easter eggs and hidden meanings, and canon per the ST writers twitter account. But I don't think what we see in TFS is meant to be a 100% accurate portrayal of the events of 1959 hawkins but rather something akin to an alternate, perverted version of events in a show full of references to "timelines", "timeloops", "lies", and "truth" etc etc.

Also just, Henry voice "a silly terrible play". Which could mean nothing!

(And honestly I find it hard to believe that with showrunners that jealously gatekeep spoilers and future plot twists, they would just give away what would be a major plotline for st5 prematurely in a stage show. Every plotline they do give away - the Nevada caves, the rogue scientist, etc- only serves to open up more questions than give answers to build suspense for st5).

So that is to say I don't really have an answer for how rosegate lines up with TFS, so I try to base the theory on the show itself.

It has been pointed out that the actor that portrays (portrayed?) ted in tfs curiously looks like jcb tho 👀 that and all the Changeling references in the creel attic in st4, I wonder whats going on there? And there's the whole thing about eddie repeating 2 school years and teds canon age per the s1e1 screenplay should be 20/21 in 1959 but he's a high school senior. Which could also mean nothing!

[stranger-feathers]

Masterpost

You can calll me feather

she/her

Here for analysis, particularly character or narrative analysis

Mostly focused on the kids, but I do dabble in the others (I certainly will reblog a bit of everything)

Byler supporter, but please no ship wars, idc if people like other ships. I'm just here because I think it would make the better story

I mostly tag Elmike when discussing Mike & Eleven from an analytical standpoint. I will try to add anti Mileven if it's particularly vicious to the ship, but no promises. Speaking of tags, I usually tag romantic and platonic dynamics with the same ship name, it's mostly for my own organisation purposes (aka finding every post I reblogged about those characters and their relationship in one tag)

I will reblog things that are contradictory to my own thoughts if I find them interesting, so don't take everything I reblog as a complete agreement, mostly just as a sign of interest.

I reblog leaks, tagged st5 leaks and st5 production so block those tags if you don't want to see it.

My Analysis and Theories

Mike reaches out and Will answers : character dynamic analysis & why I think the season 4 miscommunication really works

Lucas' arc in S4 and why it doesn't work narratively

Henry Creel and his parallels with Mike, Max, Will and El

Song association : Mike and Yesterday by the Beatles

Fav reblogs (by me)

Will's arc is deeply tied to him being gay : making him a girl would change a lot of his arc (especially when it comes to his relationship with Mike)

Pingponging between helping your two white friends does not a good character make (or my rant on Lucas Sinclair’s lost potential)

Will and his so-called "selfishness"

My fics

My AO3 : FeathersAndRoses

BylerWeek Day One (Blue Hour) : A Twilight Vow

BylerWeek Day Four (Growing Old): Like Vines around an Arbor

[nowmemoriees]

my masterpost 🫶🏻

MIKE'S UNSENT LETTER THEORY (byler)

WILL BYERS HAS POWERS THEORY

BIRTHDAY GATE THEORY

MUSIC ANALYSIS

SCRIPT ANALYSIS

ST GAMES

Byler PARALLELS

ST5 Info. - Podcast compilation

SOCIAL MEDIA HINTS compilation (byler)

BLUE AND YELLOW document

MIKE WON'T STOP WHINING ABOUT IT

Let's start a new party, you and me.

HOPPER's letter × BYLER | analysis

Inner Thoughts Gif Sets

Lights and Lies | analysis

THE NINA PROJECT message - El's independence.

-> ME ON Ao3

[theswifterhood]

ok but Noah being so eager to talk about bylers fate + him actually seeming happy about it??? and not in a i’m an actor this is my show i need people to believe me kind of happy about it like GENUINELY. and i mean he’s a great actor so i guess maybe i shouldn’t believe him but. i guess what i’m trying to say is Noah being gay and Will being gay, and Noah seemingly being so excited for the outcome of the show says a lot, to me at least. so happy for him!!!!!!!!!!!! protect Noah Schnapp from the homophobic GA.

*while ur here, u should go check out my ST5 theory located in the masterpost on my page ;)

[theswifterhood]

elumax blog masterpost:

Hi! My name is Max and this is my blog (mainly) dedicated to Stranger Things. However, I also focus a lot on other things that I really enjoy! I thought I could highlight some of my favorite shows/movies/books/ships/characters!

- Stranger Things

- Scream (movies)

- Glee

- Harry Potter (movies)

- The Marauders

- IT (movies)

- Dawson’s Creek

- The Hunger Games

- Normal People (book and show)

- Wednesday (show)

- Taylor Swift

- The Summer I Turned Pretty (books and show)

- Spider-Man

- Jurassic Park

- Yellowjackets

- Scooby Doo (tv and movies)

- Mystery Incorporated (show)

- Lilo and Stitch

- Tangled

- Theme Park History

- Defunctland

ST Analysis:

These are my theories and predictions, and also ones i’ve mentioned in my own:

My predictions for ST5:

Flickergate theory (ref):

Birthdaygate theory (ref):

Another birthdaygate theory:

My theory regarding the importance of Max’s letters:

Flickergate theory (ref):