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y'all... i am... i think overwhelmed isn't a strong enough word.
The Scripthunt's really, truly, absolute last fundraiser is almost halfway to the goal we set out to raise. Considering we opened the thing just over a day ago and intend for it to run two months, this is... truly overwhelming :'D
Look at all these amazing prizes, make a donation, and enter the drawing. You've got plenty of time before it closes, but at this rate I'll be spending the next few days on the floor
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Want to win a copy of A Very Supernatural Christmas signed by J2?
SPNscripthunt is raising money to erase medical debt for needy people and giving away prized scripts. You can enter to win this script and others here!
#supernatural#spn#spnfamily#spn family#sam winchester#dean winchester#jensen ackles#jared padalecki#spn scripts#spnscripts#spnscripthunt#spn s3#a very supernatural christmas
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currently:
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*three days later*
our campaign page
our raffle site
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It never aired, but make no mistake. It ALWAYS is doing me psychic damage.
13x14 via @spnscripthunt-inactive
They want each other to be more than a weapon, more than a soldier, more than a hammer, more than a comrade, more than a blunt instrument, more than--
They want more FOR each other, that's the thing!
#at the heart of it#dean-cas things#daddy's blunt little instrument#i'm not a hammer as you say#cas you're more than a weapon#you see yourself as our enemies see you#destiel#meredith always destroying me#nobody cares but this was also the thesis of spnwin……..
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important line that was cut from 15x01, dean says "maybe we can get jack back" so dean has already decided of they can get jack back he's all for it, and might be allowing belphegor to puppet the body (not only bc belphegor Is helping them) to keep it alive so it doesn't start to rot.
i've thought a lot about dean's motives in these episodes.
OOOOOOOH i had no idea thank you!!! what a delicious juicy tidbit this is.
link to production draft acquired by @spnscripthunt-inactive
the hope is what kills me about this. that dean, who in s13 refused to allow himself to hope mary could be alive, is saying out loud that he hopes jack comes back. that he's gone, but not permanent. dean is usually so reluctant to voice these kinds of hopes but he does here.
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hello, i'm finales georg...
i don't want to further clutter up the notes on this post while responding to the tags below but the persistence of the "finale is short/scenes are missing/extra ad break” conspiracies drives me absolutely bananas when i've watched the finale ten times and have posted about this A LOT trying to clear things up. (disclaimer that yes, i'm a goddamn destiel shipper but i care about Facts above all.)
ok but this is weird because i'd swear the episode was shorter (11 missing scenes!) but okay. maybe we all mandela effected ourselves into #beleving that. because it felt shorter. but i will die on the hill that it had another ad break. i understand this person has the thing #recorded with ads so i am thinking maybe different ad breaks in different idk time zones??? #because the finale did air an hour earlier in canada so maybe idk i am reaching here but maybe different states or whatever had different #ad breaks??? as for the last minute changes - wasn't the cover band asked for permission to use their version of carry on like a week before #the thing aired??? so even if the episode was 42 minutes and had no additional ad break - which i am side eying but lets say all was normal #i will always say they were changing thing until the absolute last minute (carry on my wayward son X 2 #the crew on the bridge which is not only giant 4th wall breaking but also wow they really got all those people in one place in times of #covid???) #anyway. tinfoil hat stays on sorry guys :/ (via @officialmisha)
short and snarky: there are plenty of real and sourced examples of network homophobia and scripted/directed destiel scenes being cut to point to. we don’t need to make this stuff up just bc the finale wasn’t what we wanted. so it’s not the mandela effect — it’s ppl repeating a conspiracy/rumor bc it supports their narrative and it’s easier and more fun to repeat something that supports a narrative they already believe (misha or something destiel was cut) vs the boring act of fact checking.
longer circumspect answer with links bc like many ppl i am in my debunking era and i rewatched "roblox_oof" last night.
like i said. i've watched the finale ten times. i’ve gone over the episode with a fine toothed comb and posted a detailed breakdown of timing marks on my blog. it’s actually extremely obvious where the ad breaks are once you know roughly where to look for them (they have a longer fade to black instead of a quick cut scene change). there’s no room for extra ad breaks and i think this conspiracy/rumor persists in part bc the episode feels so sparse in terms of cast and the fact that the episode’s momentum hits a barn post (and rebar) less than 20min into an hour-long programming block.
also i’m begging ppl to actually look at that timing mark post. it’s very straightforward and i spent a lot of time on it. i don’t care if ppl plagiarize it at this point if it means this conspiracy stops. i've got almost every second accounted for.
the "eleven missing scenes" that you're thinking of are probably from the finale script of questionable authenticity that @spnscripthunt acquired back in 2021 which can be found here. it's dated as the “final draft” from 11 sep 2020 and filming on 15x20 wrapped on 10 sep 2020. as noted at the bottom of this superwiki page "[the] script came from someone claiming to have been the person who did the closed captions for the show in Russia. There are some indications that it possibly may not be authentic, but this has not been confirmed."
if we go with the possibility that this was a transcript meant for subtitles, the "omitted" scenes were probably written but never filmed since it's the "final draft" and not a color revision (blue, green, yellow, etc). unfortunately, i’ve lost track of where i read it and a preliminary duckduckgo search isn’t bringing it up bc there's a program for script writing called final draft, but iirc the “final draft” version of a script is a transcript of what was filmed (e.g. there are parts of that 15x20 script that ended up being deleted scenes on the DVD). spnscripthunt also has an example of a confirmed final draft for 09x02 (funnily enough, also a dabb-penned ep). if anyone can confirm with a source that i have the purpose of the “final draft” version designation wrong, please let me know! i love being proven wrong with Facts.
i do want to acknowledge that the two “final drafts” do look different from each other and the 15x20 one doesn't look like a “real” final draft script since it lacks the revision/versioning dates that a script would normally have on the cover page. it could be that it was intended for subtitles; there's the chance it's been re-typed to anonymize it if there was anything indicating who the "owner" was, tho that seems a wee bit cloak and dagger to me. and again: it's considered of questionable authenticity. there are some things that don't quite line up but oh dear god i don't want to get even further out into the weeds than i already am.
i won't disagree that it's weird as hell that neoni only got asked about using their cover seven days prior to the episode airing (tiktok here). my personal theory is that they were hoping to get a more expensive song (maybe a zepp song, idk) and didn't manage to secure the rights in the end. again: this is pure conjecture on my part! but i could absolutely see someone working on the show hearing neoni’s cover and liking it and then maybe they were using it as a placeholder until it got down to the wire and they had to make a call/send the ep to networks. because yes, it is baffling they played a song and then a cover of it with only a 40 second break between. (i do actually really like the neoni cover! the placement is just weird and i think it could have worked if they had the kansas version at the beginning and closed with neoni's full cover.)
as to the 4th wall break COVID stuff: robert singer talked with variety magazine about filming the last two episodes and the logistics of filming during a pandemic. whether they should have been filming during a pandemic is a separate discussion but their use of office vs set pods, strict quarantining and daily testing meant that they had zero positive tests in the month they were filming (18 aug to 10 sep). so given all that, i personally don’t think it’s totally out of pocket to have everyone standing outdoors on a bridge for maybe an hour to get a drone shot of them together. (i won’t get into incubation periods and viral load, but if everyone tested negative that day and every day for a month prior, it was a fairly low risk scene to film outdoors and for all we know everyone was masked until the last possible second. there were plenty of outdoor masked protests in 2020 that weren't superspreader events.)
and before anyone brings up “but misha was in vancouver!” i know someone who looked into it and they said no dice, nothing matched up between the backgrounds in those pics and places in vancouver. his statements about “us” going back to set over the summer were pretty generic in hindsight and “we”/"us" could be him or the spn crew generally. unfortunately i’m not able to find those tweets but the use of “we” was likely so as not to give away he wouldn’t be returning to set. (bc we were absolutely casbaited!) and bc it comes up a lot: the "onion field pic" was from when they were filming 15x17 and was not taken while filming 15x19 and 15x20.
besides, it would be ridiculous to go through the financial and logistical headaches of bringing someone into the country to film during a pandemic, only to cut their scenes in the end! honestly, the script is pretty tight when the scenes are given so much breathing room! the only thing i could see being further cut down is The Monologue and even then, i don’t think there was any intent to cut it down given it was filmed in fairly long takes.
i’ve said it many times before, but i believe the finale was fucked long before they returned to set. walker got the green light in sep 2019 and it was being marketed heavily as a “follow on” show to spn given jared’s involvement. the demo they were courting for walker has little to no overlap with the demo for destiel fans — why would they want a finale that catered to a demo they weren't interested in courting? we just went through a historic double strike that exposed so much of the rot of business interests overriding creative vision. this isn't completely unfounded conjecture.
i will not apologize for the length of this bc i wanted to be thorough, but i do want to give context that i think the reason these conspiracies and rumors grind my gears so much is because anyone can fact check all of this. the truth is out there and absolutely none of it is that hard to find. the most time consuming/difficult part of this was finding someone who had a DVR’d copy of the finale from when it aired live and they actually found me themselves after i’d been low key asking around for a year!
and like. i get it. conspiracies are fun. but there are so many sourced instances of network homophobia and destiel being cut that it's like. why is this something folks are hanging onto? the cw is notorious for having upper level meddling with finales bc there's a follow-on show they want to shuffle fans along to and spn is no exception.
#this is my personal bugbear / debunking hill to die on#it's so easy to disprove and has been disproved for so long at this point and it just keeps. on. getting. repeated.#finales georg#destiel#spn#unfortch most destiel folks don't venture outside the ship harbor and this has been LONG debunked by w/incest blogs#as in like. days after the rumor first started circulating in nov/dec 2020. (and it takes next to nothing!)#i'm a more recent arrival to the fandom (feb 2021) which i think gives me a bit more distance being able to watch the finale 10 times lol#but like. it is RIGHT THERE. folks don't even have to watch the ep. just pull it up on netflix/DVD/whatever to see the runtime.#the 'new post' button is right there. screencap my post and dismiss the effort i've put in somewhere i don't have to see it.#fandom debunking#i heard tommy tallarico was the first american hired to work on supernatural (his mother is very proud)
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Suptober Day 7 // Thankful
Based on Cas's vision in an earlier draft of The Future via @spnscripthunt-inactive
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a) thanks for explaining your work. You're doing a great job! Thank you so much.
b) I don't have much sympathy left for superwiki as well. But the episode guide on her page IS well-organised and useful. Can't argue with that.
(private) Hi, I'm one of the spnscripthunt admins + I was wondering if you would be willing to share a pdf of The Human Race documentary's Indiegogo perk SPN 6.09 "Clap Your Hands if You Believe" with us so we can add it to the pdf collection (full list of links is here → http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/Scripts_and_Casting_Side). Thank you.
I have the physical script, not a pdf. It’d be a fair bit if trouble to scan it in. Frankly, Superwiki was rather rude to me and I’m not inclined to take the trouble. Not to mention that the finale pissed me off so much I haven’t watched SPN since and don’t expect I ever will again. The script I have is Ben Edlund’s copy and I treasure it for that, because he’s an amazing writer- but I’m sure you’ll be able to find another copy of the script for your archives.
#infighting tag#crazy props to the spnscripthunt tho#it always floors me how impressive the archival work is for this fandom. both in stuff like documenting conventions and this
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ONLY 12 HOURS LEFT!
TO ENTER THE @spnscripthunt RAFFLE!
for every $10 donated to Misha’s U24 drive to demine Ukraine, you can get an entry to win an autographed Supernatural script! Like, a real one!
but you only have until 11:59 pm tonight, EDT, to submit your receipt to us!
(Donation link)
(receipt submission form)
(full details about rules and prizes)
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Meg supporting SPNscripthunt and helping us raise over 5k!!!!!! for the Trevor Project!
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“And here it is… this is what we’ve been waiting all summer for… Lucifer has finally risen. And we finally get a look at him…
THE WHITE SCREEN FLARES OUT, UNVEILING—
SATAN.
Except, he’s animated. He’s from South Park.”
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Another signed script donated by Eric Kripke for SPNscripthunt! Raffle starts April 25th, and the proceeds go to Undue Medical Debt (formerly known as RIP Medical Debt)! It’s $10 per entry, and you could win one of these amazing scripts with only one or two entries!
The 6th script of 7 donated by Eric Kripke as a raffle prize for our final fundraiser for @RIPMedicalDebt (fundraising page + raffle open on April 25) is 5.01 "Sympathy for the Devil"
#spnscripthunt#supernatural#spn#supernatural fandom#spn fandom#spn family#eric kripke#sympathy for the devil
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Michael & Lucifer - Swan Song script
bonus:
more spn scripts here (+ @/spnscripthunt)
#spn michael#spn lucifer#spn scripts#spn edits#my edits#Supernatural 5x22: Swan Song#I love these kinds of details#they add so much to their characterisations#I've talked about it before but the 'real brotherly concern' one in particular is so interesting#right before that Michael was desperately saying he had to fight Lucifer because that's his destiny#but it's not his destiny that makes him lunge after Sam! It's a visceral and irrational reaction#(because he COULD have waited for the Cage to close & grabbed the Horsemen's rings on the ground to open it again)#(and Sam and Dean would have been fucked)#but his emotions took over...
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Michael, you might as well go "AHEM AHEM ... pun intended"
It IS a St. Michael's, you may have noticed.
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No room for you in the Empty which is... Empty.
MICHAEL PLEASE
15x19 via @spnscripthunt-inactive
#spn 15x19#michael makes jokes#and he wants you know about them#michael is wry like cas is but cas doesn't NEED you know he's making a joke he's content to have private amusement#BUT NOT MICHAEL#MICHAEL WANTS YOU TO SEE THE JOKE#michael doesn't know that explaining the joke ruins them#adam you have to tell him please#midam
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oh so the dean-realizing-mary-fucked-in-the-backseat-look wasn't scripted
(found via @spnscripthunt, linked here)
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14x13
Sam gets closure. He receives and grants forgiveness. I cry every time I re-watch this scene.
Jared hit this out of the park. His line reading at "And I think about you a lot" and at "I think about you...(hmm)...I think about you. On the floor of the hospital" is just heart wrenching and soul crushing.
The Yellow Draft of this scene from @spnscripthunt
It's not the final version and there are some changes in Sam's final dialogue which are small but significant. I wish I knew who made those changes.
#random re watch#14x13#one of my all time favourite scenes#jared was phenomenal#JDM did great support work#my post
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what if i truthed that instead of OG carry on and the neoni cover of carry on, we were supposed to get ramble on?
bc hear me out: ramble on is 4m45s, and from montage start to montage end it is 4m55s with a 10 sec break between OG carry on ending and the neoni cover starting.
understand that this is mostly a joke but i do plan to test out playing ramble on over the first part of the driving montage.
my totally unsupported theory is that there was something else they were intending to play over the longer part of the driving montage (3m14s) and go to OG carry on for the shorter part, but we ended up with the neoni cover bc they were waiting until the last minute to see if licensing would go through. bc it is absolutely baffling that they would play two versions of the same song almost immediately back to back. CW has access to a pretty extensive music library via a licensing partnership iirc (but is mostly contemporary music) so it would have had to be a pretty "big" and older song they were trying to get.
example of "writer wants song but show cannot afford" being that perez wanted the beegee's "staying alive" for 13x06 tombstone per the writer's 2nd draft version of the script.
source (ty spnscripthunt!)
thank you for joining me in my insanity!
#i just want to be smug and point out that i called it weeks ahead that they'd play ramble on in the finale of spnwin#also that it would be an AU / alt timeline that our dean bumped into and yes that would actually be satisfying#sorry but i'm unbearably smug about the 'alt timeline will actually be very satisfying' bit#spn
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