#spn fandom sucks
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Thank you for making my tags a meme. I appreciate this so much. It's hilarious and I love it.
I'm sorry for unloading the god awful spn lore that I know but bc I am knee deep in this toxic fandom I am going to unload more cursed lore.
The thing is I hate how destiel shippers woobified Dean so much they ignored all the ways he was problematic and their excuse is he is a repressed bisexual when that is an interpretation and was never canon so his racism, sexism, and HOMOPHOBIA can never be excused. Lbr, even if he was canonically bi the things he said and did weren't excusable.
Anyways, I saw your tags and altho Jensen hates destiel and was never for it. Misha isn't a saint either. Both these actors are problematic in their own ways (tbh a lot of the spn cast are. I could write a whole essay for each of the main cast members.)
But Jensen and Misha are glorified by their destiel fans and most often they look away when these 2 idiot white men do dumb shit. The most recent ones are Jensen made a joke about csa. It's insane how this gets ignored. I'd rather not put the video here as it might upset some people.
But Misha just recently talked about the genocide in Palestine and he fucking denied it. And was very much pro-Israel or (at best) was being neutral.
He deleted this tweet and the thread but just so u know this guy is a piece of shit too.
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#spn fandom sucks#most of the celebrities suck#i still love some of the characters and I am very much biased when it comes to Sam Winchester#I honestly believe he is so underrated bc destiel shippers made it their goal to ignore and devalue his role in the show#also P.S. I finished g witch and sulemio fucking deserves the win. as a spn fan if it's not obvious I hate destiel they were never canon#the only way they're sorta canon is Cas confessed and it was unrequited
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Supernatural really said we’ll make it so our characters can find peace only in death and death is also the only way to change the immutable path of fate set by an all powerful force that controls your every action. This will give disorders to no fourteen year olds.
#god i hate it here#this is why#the finale might’ve made sense#on paper#or in the writer’s room#but it sucked in reality#spn theory#spn headcanon#spnfandom#spn#supernatural fandom#cw spn#cw supernatural#dean winchester#castiel#sam winchester#supernatural theory#spn rant
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#spn#polls#supernatural#i struggle so much with it in other fandom#because of criticisms i over analyze everything about this game#and can't enjoy#as much as i could have#which fucking sucks
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I like "Dean is a repressed bisexual"
I like "Dean knows he's gay and just doesn't want to talk about it"
I like "Castiel was dean's gay awakening and he didn't have any experience with liking men beforehand"
I like "Dean has always liked men and women"
I like Dean so much, and I like all of you creative people, and you should all interpret media the way you wish to babes ♥️
#like yes babes#this character was made for you#treat him as you wish#supernatural#dean winchester#bisexual dean winchester#gay dean winchester#repressed dean Winchester#blorbo#fandom#spn#destiel#as always if you dont like something you should either keep it to yourself or just refrain from insulting other people#unless its harming themselves or other people obviously#like for example#i HATE wincest i think its awful#but im not gonna send hatemail to people who write it#and im not gonna say they suck at watching shows#just because they interpreted the brothers that way#because everyone has their own thing#you never know whats happening in someones life that they feel they want to write things like that#anyway#ill leave the tags now bye
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chat, is it "unreasonable & dumb" to post about supernatural while watching it for the first time, and putting "no major spoilers pls <3" in the tags?? bc that's what i did and some asshole guy was like "asking for no spoilers on a show that's been out for 20 years is not only unreasonable but dumb" and continued to send me a whole ass list of random spoilers :D
it's not like i'm telling all of tumblr to stop talking about spn??😭 on the contrary, i actually blocked all the spn tags to avoid as many spoilers as possible, and i don't think it's too much to ask people to not put any major spoilers in the comments or reblogs of my own damn posts lmao
#like#i'm not gonna throw a tantrum if i accidentally stumble upon a spoiler#and obviously i already know a lot of stuff about the show it's impossible to avoid#but still#i'm happy about every spoiler i avoided#people are weird#amy talks#supernatural#spn#fandom#spoilers#discourse#people suck
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I’m not sure if this video will work but this time the spirit of Billy Butcher AND Dean Winchester and even John “NotMySon” Dutton was like here out that fucker in there too and they all overtook my mortal flesh cocoon and made me make this video. it’s for all but also it’s for the out and loud gays, the stubborn gays, and the gays that haven’t quite found a safe enough space to wander free from the confines of their closets. it’s also for the anon that called me an f-slur on the last day of pride. geeeet f#cked my guy! anyway enjoy. but also i made this for @merry-andrews / @homelander-rp-blog for always being kind and entertaining my ships and being gracious about my artworks🩵💛🩵💛🩵💛🩵💛🩵💛💗💛🩵💛💗🩵🩵💛💗💥💥💥🦈🪸🧫🧪💥🦈🪸🧫🧪💥💥💥🪷🪴🪷🪴🪷🤯🤯🤯💗💛🩵
#homelander#the boys#the boy tv#the boys amazon#castiel#supernatural#spn#jamie dutton#yellowstone tv#chappell roan#pink pony club#dean winchester#billy butcher#gay#super gay#mega gay#Voughts gay and gays#we all know spn is all levels of identities and also gay#I don’t actually make videos so this might not work and it might really suck but I love them all#gay rights#gay fandoms
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Frankly I wish Cas shagged Hannah on screen full frontal so we could have put the angelcest discourse to bed permanently, we could be talking about angel on angel action as taboo because they’re meant to be sexless beacons of purity- there’s actual taboos being made here that are a thousand times cooler and it’s not that they’re “siblings” don’t be boring
#Hannah wanted to suck and fuck that guy canonical#’gay angel’ okay Hannah likes gayboys she kissed him square on the lips#fandom wank#angelcest#supernatural#spn#Castiel#Hannah spn
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#saw someone actually saying that because spn isn't a ~good show that all lit crit analysis is meaningless and we should all just stop#and then people wonder why we talk about media illiteracy and why it's a problem#and they shamed text posts for existing because idek people aren't supposed to discuss their feelings and analyze stories#spn sucks (according to them) and therefore everything is pointless and we all have to join in their nihilism#a show whose writing staff was well versed in literary device techniques and was telling a story with complex themes and characters#isn't 'worth metaing about' because they said so#the anti-intellectualism is ironically going hand-in-hand with media snobbery#that thinks a genre tv series on a shoestring budget can't say anything meaningful#so once again i'm pondering this entire sub-culture in Fandom generally that refuses to tolerate unironic enjoyment of spn#and feels this drive toward a false sense of intellectual superiority while at the same time anti-intellectualism shaming of lit crit#dot trolls fandom
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The fandom version of “gaslight gatekeep girlboss” & “mansplain manipulate manwhore” is
✨Infantilise Fetishise Generalise✨
#it says Infantilise Fetishise Generalise for my fellow homies who suck at reading cursive <3#supernatural#spn#Sherlock#bbc Sherlock#marvel#mcu#loki#I swear yall love nothing more than making grown men into babies shipping them with other men and then acting like it’s just accepted fact#lol worms for brains all o’ y’all#fandom wank
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what @bagsley said about destiel here: “maybe in a monsterfucking way it could be cool to be with someone who has no frame of reference in common with you, who has no real gender, no body of their own. i never payed enough attention to cas to know for sure but like he doesn't sweat or go to the bathroom or eat, right? does he smell like anything? probably not because he wears the same clothes for years.” THIS IS WHAT MAKES DESTIEL SEXY TO ME. THERE IS SO MUCH FUCKED UP POTENTIAL THERE. it’s so.. impersonal and cold and devoid of humanity. and yet cas could burn right through him.
it must be SO terrifying but intriguing to have such a powerful billion-years-old non-human creature fall in love with you. someone who never even experienced human emotions before, who has never wanted anything for himself, but now he WANTS, for the first time he FEELS, and he’s soooo creepy and invasive and intense about it. he has no knowledge of autonomy or privacy or any human stuff. and he can see ALL of dean while dean can’t even see cas’ true form bc it would blind him. he doesn’t eat, he doesn’t sleep, he doesn’t breathe. the sex would be literally a mind-blowing near-death-experience. cas is like an dinosaur worshipping an ant but still stepping on him accidentally 3 times a day, and one time on purpose just to see how he would react. except even a dinosaur would be more alive than him. it’s like being exposed and vulnerable to an all seeing eye who can smite you the moment you stop being entertaining. but dean is good with being on display - he can work with that. destiel IS the freak ship actually and i wish MORE people talked about this.
#something about that and dean ultimately not choosing cas the way cas wants him#it should have made cas SO MUCH WORSE#AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO INTERESTING#why anyone wants him to be human is beyond me#spn and fandom made cas so boring#like. i think there IS something necrophilic about it but i think dean would be into that#hope its okay to copy this bc i didnt wanna go 'why destiel is good' on your 'why destiel sucks' post but GOD it gives me brainworms#sorry<3#deancas
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John to Dean in 1973: get the fuck away from me
John to Dean in 2005: get the fuck away from me
#supernatural#dean winchester#spn#spn 3x3#john winchester#mary winchester#supernatural fandom#supernatural memes#spn memes#spn crack#fuck john winchester#He sucks :P
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there's this relatively popular take that a piece of media has to be somewhat mediocre, rather than actually good, for fandoms to thrive or to make people insane and it's just one of those generic fandom opinions that i so deeply disagree with. i don't think it's remotely about quality, but rather about potential/options/depth of world. there are good stories that are relatively contained, that have a world as big as they need, that you read and enjoy and move on. but there are stories and worlds that are just. objectively really fucking great, and still have huge or at least very engaged fandoms. take tolkien. take black sails. no one's going to argue (or realistically, i suppose someone will but ykwim) that those are like. mid. but black sails (in some sense of it a story is true etc etc) is a tragedy, so you have one million moments of "oh if only this one thing had been different" and you can snowball yes-and this in one million directions at every turn and juncture. fandom catnip. tolkien's world too, in terms of plot and story-arcs, is coherent in itself and without doubt good, but the sheer incredible size of the world it is set in, of characters and relationships and little titbits that wouldn't have had a place in the main narrative, of tragedy and "what if only this one thing had been different" leaves so much potential and room for curiosity that it's a banquet for fandom! like. sure. there's mid shows that draw huge fandoms because they're mid, but (even as i know it's really not that deep don't @ me) it's just entirely nonsense to think something needs to be mid/unsatisfying/whatever to make me balls against the fall batshit feral about it. thanks for coming to my tedtalk
#*mine#mona rambles#not to kick the hornet's nest but bbc merlin also hasn't got such a huge fandom cause it's bad actually <3#part of this is just me being sooooo tired of this ironic negative 'boohoo i hate it so much it sucks actually let me spend hours of my lif#on it anyway' vibe fandoms so often have like man. aren't you tired. but like#i said what i said etc etc#i extended so much self-restraint to not make a spn joke btw. just saying#on fandom
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having favorite characters from media with vastly different ideas on morality or like anything ever is so much fun. here’s blorbo bingus who actively kills everyone he doesn’t like and here’s grongo buppy who believes in the magic of friendship and forgiveness and they’re best friends to me
#cal.txt#sorry this is about jack and adrien again yeah . sorry#everything will be about them for a good while still I fear#please be patient with me I have autism#blorbo tag#media#fandom stuff#I never know how to tag stuff like this I’m not rlly garnering an audience on purpose#I just like to be annoying#spn#jack kline#miraculous ladybug#adrien agreste#and like it’s more so about how SPN approaches the idea of killing a bad guy vs how miraculous does#obviously they can’t KILL outright in a kids show but even with the vaguest implication of death#it’s like ‘no we can’t do that we’re no better than them!’#and then in supernatural they’re like. maybe we aren’t better than you but you still fucking suck so we’re gonna kill you#I NEED to get back on my jackgirl shit I’ve abandoned you all for some YouTube kids ass media
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after much consideration I've come to the conclusion that no Nandermo is better than dead Nandermo.
It might be the Supernatural 15×18 "Despair" 6 November 2020 Election Putin Day trauma speaking, but still.
#also the fact that by s3 I already Knew they eere not gonna make it canon.#like come on.#I've lived through BBC Sherlock and CW Supernatural#(admittedly i was not here on tumblr at that time - but the experience still stands)#you think a silly little “it was all a dream” skit and the new developers for the show crushing our dreams would make me feel bad?#you fools. you absolute buffoons.#this? this is nothing.#this is barely a little flick up thennose compared to the entirety of the BBC Sherlock crew shitting on fans.#and the Spn writer's room choking us with the samulet and stabbing us with an angel blade.#yes it sucks. obviously. it fucking sucks.#i am so starved for some goddamn representation that even a shitty two seconds screentime is good to me#and that was extremely fucoing disrespectful to everyone#but.#i think. in the end... we'll be fine.#with how fandom moves forward there are gonna be a couple hundred fixit fics and then#in a couple of years everyone will have forgotten#or maybe not. who knows. but still.#we'll be fine.#spiteful. offended. angry. but fine#we've survived much worse (see above) we can survive this one too babes#wwdits#what we do in the shadows#wwdits spoilers#nandermo#destiel#tw supernatural mention
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#can i be petty for a second#it really bothers me when someone compares 911 to spn#like the memes are fine and all i’ve laughed at them too but#seriously comparing the two doesn’t sit well with me#because i was there gandalf i watched spn from 2011 to 2015#i wasn’t actively part of the fandom but i was obsessed#i saw it all i saw the way the creators treated the fans#i didn’t even ship destiel but i fucking saw misha collins be the biggest fucking troll there has ever been#he made shipping jokes he said something that made the fans go crazy that wasn’t even true#it happened on the show too#they kept joking about it like the show is full of haha they think you are gay jokes#i saw the creators basically punish the fandom just because most of us happened to be women#and they seriously thought they were making a manly show for manly men#so yeah just#don’t ever actually compare supernatural to 911 in front of me#like#jensen ackles fucking wishes he was anything like oliver stark#yeah i said what i said#okay rant over sorry i just had to be a hater for a second there#and actually#i don’t even mean this in a way that supernatural sucks but it has barely anything in common with 911
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actually i really don't understand the widespread mentality of having to constantly obsess over and harp on and on about how "terrible" the winchesters are. you are so boring. do you understand a single thing happening in the storytelling. do you have a desperate need to be miserable and edgy. what is it
#i'm so sick of reading the “they're both so awful and disgusting but that's sexy” discourse#it's so derivative it's so joyless it's so pointless and you've sucked the energy from the fandom#spn for ts
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