#spn 9.04

[weanwinwhester]

Ding Dong, Bitches

[lower-the-volume]

slumber party

[ardentpoop]

oof

[castiellesbian]

Robbie Thompson:

7.06 Slash Fiction

7.12 Time After Time

7.20 The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo

8.04 Bitten

8.11 LARP and the Real Girl

8.17 Goodbye Stranger

8.20 Pac-Man Fever

9.04 Slumber Party

9.11 First Born

9.18 Meta Fiction

10.05 Fan Fiction

10.11 There's No Place Like Home

10.18 Book of the Damned

10.20 Angel Heart

11.04 Baby

11.11 Into the Mystic

11.16 Safe House

11.20 Don't Call Me Shurley

Eric Kripke:

1.01 Pilot

1.02

1.09 Home

1.16 Shadow

1.22 Devil's Trap

2.01 In My Time of Dying

2.22 All Hell Breaks Loose: Part Two

3.01 The Magnificent Seven

3.16 No Rest for the Wicked

4.01 Lazarus Rising

4.10 Heaven and Hell

4.22 Lucifer Rising

5.01 Sympathy for the Devil

5.09 The Real Ghostbusters

5.22 Swan Song

6.22 The Man Who Knew Too Much

[mittensmorgul]

Hello, I'm hoping you can help with me something if it's not to much. I watched the pilot of The Winchesters, but since I haven't been active in the SPN fandom for almost 2 years, I forgot a lot of details about the show. Could you possibly give me a list of episodes that are good to rewatch, relating to Mary/John/MOL etc? Or if not, could you direct me to someone else I can ask? Thank you! :D

Hi there!... Welcome back to the spn universe!

It's probably a lot to catch up on, but I think the most important things related to this prequel are likely going to start with the two episodes where Dean, and then Sam and Dean both, travelled back to their parents' lives:

4.03 In the Beginning, and 5.13 The Song Remains The Same

Those are the points where we saw them, and that will likely overlap with The Winchesters canon-- the events of 4.03 only about a year into the future from where we saw them last night. I can't wait to see how they handle it!

After that, it's probably your choice... Things with Samuel Campbell might be of interest, but that means s6.

Later seasons episodes with Mary could be interesting as a compare/contrast to what we learn of her past now.

Episodes about the MoL and their history could be important too. We don't know an awful lot about them, but most of what we learned was in 8.12 As Time Goes By (also important for Henry! as is 9.17 Mother's Little Helper). Not really about MoL stuff specifically, but you could also throw in 9.04 Slumber Party (because yes a little about the MoL, plus written by Robbie), 10.19 The Werther Project (when good MoL go bad and create evil hungry boxes! definitely a theme around here...), or even 9.16 Blade Runners (again, Cuthbert Sinclair breaking bad over power and locking himself up in a custom immortality box... or however you want to view his magical hideaway).

At this point, I might even throw in 13.17 The Thing (just for speculation on what the Big Bad might be, also for more MoL history tho), 14.11 Damaged Goods (because Mary had a demon trapped in a box with a similar concept to the one we saw them find in last night's episode), and probably 5.14 My Bloody Valentine (for the reveal about how John and Mary were set up, coincidentally while hunting down a very "hungry" being who intended to "devour" humanity... very much what we've been informed the new Big Bad intends as well...).

If you get through all of that, just watching some of the "flashback to Sam and Dean's childhood" episodes is probably a good idea, too. :)

Good luck!

[peach-coke]

No vacancy, just emptiness Without your love, I'm homeless

[foxthefanboi]

9x04 - Slumber Party

[sensitivehandsomeactionman]

[nancylou444]

I thought Charlie's reason for hunting was magic and a quest or something, that's what she wanted? I think it's something she said in the Dorthy episode. No saving people, not killing evil. Very self-centered.

Right you are darling. 

Slumber Party:

CHARLIE:Okay. It was just a couple little cases. I took down a teenage vampire and a ghost...........It was, uh... It was intense. But I kind of wish hunting was more...magical, you know?

CHARLIE: Saving people, hunting things, the family business? I am down.But... I was raised on Tolkien, man. I mean, where is all this? [She holds up the Game of Thrones disc] Where are my White Walkers and my volcano and magic ring to throw in the damn thing?Where -- where's my quest?

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Yeah she kind of cared about helping people, but she wanted to hang out with Frodo. 

[jumblejen]

If Charlie had stayed dead in Slumber Party (9.04), Dean would have been eaten up with guilt. But he would also have gone and found Cas right away. It would have spurred him to go save the person that mattered most to him. He would have just left all of it to go protect human!Cas. It would have become the point of him.

[super-sootica]

Sam: All right. Well, first, I think I might have found a way to help Cas

Dean: Did you talk to him?

Sam: No. And, by the way, I still don't understand why he left in the first place

Dean: *Sits* Well Sam, sometimes when two men like each other very much. They experience urges...normal urges. But dangerous urges. And it's great and it's powerful and suspenseful and it builds and builds until you just have to

Sam: Have to what?

Dean: No homo

[lower-the-volume]

9.04 Slumber Party

[castiel-angel-of-my-heart]

I think one of my favorite, underrated episodes is 9x14.

Sam's struggle to accept the bunker as his home - that he has a permanent place to stay, and to make his own - resonated with me a lot.

Not that I share the same struggles as him, because I don't, but it just seemed like a very real problem for him to have. It was a topic that had never really been brought up before.

Before this episode, it's just assumed that because Sam was too young to remember, it made everything a little easier on him than on Dean (since Sam only knew life after the fire, and Dean could still remember, say, Mary's singing, for example).

With this, came the other half of the perspective. He never did have any of that. It's not what he knows. That's not what he had accepted life to be. Sam had become content with their hunting lifestyle: him and Dean, motel to motel. He had finally grew okay with that, and made the best of it.

And suddenly he's given this giant place to stay?

It's a little scary. Just more to potentially lose. It's asking him to break down walls he didn't even know he had.

Meanwhile Dean, who would be thought to have the hardest time accepting a new home into his life, took to the bunker easily. He was instantly in love with the place. He not only accepted it, he owned it.

He remembers life before the fire. He remembers their house. He remembers John and Mary: Father and Mother. He remembers (almost) having a childhood, a normal one.

And he just snatches up this opportunity.

(Which I have more thoughts on for another day)

Idk exactly why, but this episode was just important to me? Anywho, thank you to anyone who decides to read my (pointless) rant all the way through :)

[castiellesbian]

Robbie Thompson:

7.06 Slash Fiction

7.12 Time After Time

7.20 The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo

8.04 Bitten

8.11 LARP and the Real Girl

8.17 Goodbye Stranger

8.20 Pac-Man Fever

9.04 Slumber Party

9.11 First Born

9.18 Meta Fiction

10.05 Fan Fiction

10.11 There's No Place Like Home

10.18 Book of the Damned

10.20 Angel Heart

11.04 Baby

11.11 Into the Mystic

11.16 Safe House

11.20 Don't Call Me Shurley

Ben Edlund:

2.05 Simon Said

2.12 Nightshifter

2.18 Hollywood Babylon

3.03 Bad Day at Black Rock

3.09 Malleus Maleficarum

3.13 Ghostfacers

4.05 Monster Movie

4.08 Wishful Thinking

4.16 On the Head of a Pin

5.04 The End

5.10 Abandon All Hope...

5.14 My Bloody Valentine

5.20 The Devil You Know

6.03 The Third Man

6.09 Clap Your Hands If You Believe...

6.15 The French Mistake

6.20 The Man Who Would Be King

7.02 Hello, Cruel World

7.09 How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters

7.15 Repo Man

7.21 Reading Is Fundamental

8.05 Blood Brother

8.13 Everybody Hates Hitler

8.21 The Great Escapist

[mittensmorgul]

Hi everyone! I feel like I haven’t been on tumblr at all lately, but I wanted to write something about this, since I’ve been thinking about it for hours. I will begin with this thesis (which is my tag for this subject):

#dean is a genius and if you disagree you can fight me

There have been numerous posts over the years detailing his intelligence, and they often cite similar examples to demonstrate this. Everyone knows the homemade EMF meter from 1.04, foiling the Ghostfacers episode with the electromagnet in 3.13, and “Slaughterhouse Five-Vonnegut or Cat’s Cradle-Vonnegut?” from 4.18, among many others. But I can’t recall off the top of my head if 7.12 has ever been used to illustrate Dean’s particular brand of intelligence before.

Of course, this was written by Robbie Thompson, who has always been a Brilliant Dean stan. I mean, this is the guy who was so pissed about J2 switching lines in 9.04 about “What, I read,” and being completely ruined as a result that he specifically wrote a scene in 11.04 that they could not take out of context for the purposes of making a “lol Dean’s the dumb brother” joke out of it, and forced the “I read” line into Dean’s mouth where it belongs.

So that’s our baseline for the tone and the narrative arc of this episode.

At the beginning of the episode, Sam actually chides Dean about his online activities:

Sam: I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I hope you're watching cartoon smut, because reading Dick Roman crap over and over again is just self punishment. Dean: It's called anime. And it's an art form.

Dean does what Dean ALWAYS does, and this line is brilliant. We already saw that yes, Dean was reading about Dick Roman. But what does he default to? Exactly what Sam EXPECTS from him. Does Sam believe him? Possibly. Because Dean has made this sort of comment SO MANY TIMES in the past and it has always worked as a deflection from what this episode has already shown us was the truth. This one line invites us to question every other instance where Dean has diminished his own intellect with comments that specifically play into his carefully cultivated facade.

Does this mean that every instance in the past where he’d made a lewd or provocative comment was merely a deflection? Of course not! But it invites us to wonder, and to consider that history through this alternate lens. And on reflection, it casts Dean’s entire character into a different light. His “performance” in this instance is revealed to be a complete sham, and we MUST wonder how often that is actually the case.

Once Dean lands in 1944, we see a different angle of his intelligence. He’s thrown into a completely different reality with no preparation and must adapt instantly to the situation, including a car full of police drawing weapons on him. He judges the situation as best as he can, and starts gathering intel, putting puzzle pieces together to figure out what has happened to him, and how he might hope to get home again.

During the course of the episode, he adapts to life in 1944 with aplomb. There’s a bit of a language barrier, with misunderstandings of their respective slang terms (Dean continues, of course, to say “awesome” a lot, and I love his reaction to Ness calling him “bindlestiff.” Poor bab!) When he first meets Ness, there’s a bit of idol worship, “confusing reality with fiction” in thinking Ness was his character in The Untouchables and discovering the truth. But he also opens up to Ness in ways that he hasn’t really with anyone since... well probably since before Cas... did that thing he did at the beginning of the season...

But Dean is also no slouch in the investigation department. He not only figures out the culprit (Chronos), not only does he figure out exactly why all of this is happening, but he figures out a way to get this information to Sam 68 years in the future, and then trusts and hopes that Sam will find his note and figure out how to act on it.

Yeah, he references a lot of pop culture sources as the credit (Back to the Future films were referenced several times). But at the beginning, when he first met Ness and before he knew Ness was Ness AND a hunter who would take him seriously, he thought he was “twelve monkeyed,” and figured he had nothing to lose by just stating the complete truth of who he was and how he got there. And it literally set him free. (Dean’s own intelligence and wits enabled him to outmaneuver the 12 monkeys, as it were)

I could go point by point through the entire episode detailing this entire process, but it’s evident just watching it, watching Dean discard his mistaken impressions and find the truth. What a smart bean.

[peach-coke]

Sam being soft for his big brother ♥