#spex.asked

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please im crying latest non fp was kinda cringe. like everything is going wrong and thats okay because that was gonna happen anyway im not mad abt that. but john was like... omg.

everytime uru tries to make john look badass its just like... please stop being so. john. like i like john but hes genuinely so hard to read about sometimes because he gets SO BAD

IM GLAD IT WASNT JUST ME

the comments too😭😭

"his badass walk" GTFOO it doesnt help that the artstyle isnt doing itself any favours rn. like theres a way they couldve pulled it off but with how stiff and awkward and 2000s yaoi it feels, it did NOT work

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omw across the state to go to a water park for a few hours and im coping with the multiple hour bus ride by thinking abt john unordinary. why he act like that... was he always so obnoxious

(ps this better be the john hater or im ripping my teeth out bc of embarrassment 💀💀 im pretty sure it is)

IM THE JOHN HATER 4EVER!!! jk hes actially been growing on me and @scinnahunbun hates him with her soul and then some,,,, nevertheless why would u make ur ride worse by thinking abt him

hes a little worm i think like okay yeah what he did was necessary but also hes a piece of shit who ate my leaves ykwim

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canon john is the most embarrassing entitled asshole ever and the way he is in my head is pearl houzuki from hit nintendo framchise splatoon walking around in the body of a high school teenager. idek how that happened bc canon john has very very little simularities w pearl houzuki but my interpretation is better

(ps u can prob guess who i am just based off the splatoon analogy 😭😭)

HELLO YSINES!

no ikywm.....he is ur oc now. sometimes a character is just irrevocably associated with one thing against all odds. for no reason. or for good reason

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jimps in the comments r so cringe w no chill like stfu abt ur johnny boy stop sucking him off like that

john is nothing without his 5'0 male incel reddittor fanbase

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ISEN FOR THE BLORBLO BLEEBUS !!

BLORBO BLEEBUS UUYGHHTRRR WAAUGHHH

hes really important i crave a fucking snapping poiny i need catharsis ,, one of my favourite moments definitely was when he yelled at john during the spectre ambush

he needs pain he needs sympathy he needs family and people who care for him waaaaaahhh

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jarlo

JOHN X ARLO

i have several others but im doing this one first bc its ✨controversial✨

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CHEMISTRY

4/10

they mostly hate eachother idk what you want from me. arlo hates john- he thinks hes immature and stupid and irresponsible. john hates arlo- he thinks hes stuck up and a prick and a general bad person. they both hate each other, and have both severely hurt each other. arlo, because of his beliefs, pushed john into a situation that forced him to relapse into his [self]destructive tendencies. john proceeded to use, berate, and blame from that point on. they're characters with such different point of views and have both been severely hurt by the system, but neither of them refuse to acknowledge that the other has been hurt. while john blames himself for what hed become, he covers that up by blaming the system. on the other hand, arlo doesnt even recognize the fact that hes been affected by the hierachy [his obsession with order].

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POTENTIAL

9/10

TENSIONNNNN. mm we've seen that arlo is capable of being kind, or at least pretending to be kind, to john. from that point, that couldve developped into genuine affection for each other, much like a fake dating trope. and it would work, however, thats not the way story evolved. currently, they both hate each other. arlo's also shown to feel guilty about his actions, at least to some degree. they could both push each other to further goals and enlighten the other to different perspectives [much like john and sera's friendship]. a romantic relationship between the two would be very multi-faceted and interesting to see play out considering their backstories and previous interactions. [but itd be so cute for them to go soft on each other]. they could also grow as people which would be nice :>

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TOXICITY

10/10

BAD BAD BAD. TOXIC AS FUCK. they fucking hate each other. a relationship like theirs could go bad so fucking fast. everyone in unordinary has a track record of shit communication, and holy fuck these two are so bad at it. there'd be no trust or communication between these two. even if they did forgive each other to what happened, its not healthy to just move on from what they did. arlo fucked john over, and so did arlo. both of them, specifically arlo, are not in stable positions as of the moment. engaging in a relationship would be unhealthy and toxic. likely, one bad incident could set off a spiral for both since it could trigger john's ptsd and very distinctly remind him of what arlo did to him. of course, relationships are not certainly toxic or certainly healthy, its just these two have a high potential of turning sour.

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PERSONAL OPINION

8/10

i like it, personally. the appeal to me, i think, is the idea of them growing as people. character development is sexy. seeing them grow from who they were at the start, and actually take the time to care and understand of each other would be so satisfying. picturing them in a healthy relationship rn- its good !! theyd have nice banter and would challenge each other's opinions, but in a way that supports the relationship rather than break it down.

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IN CONCLUSION...

good chemistry. high potential and they could definitely have a good relationship, but that depends on if theyre genuinely going to put in the effort to grow as people and understand each other. however, can get toxic real fast especically with the tendency of them to hold grudges and their history. unlikely to ever be canon, but theyve got good tension :>

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YOOOOUUU KNOW WHO IM GONNA SAY FOR THE ASK GAME

I DO I DO KNOW

hes the specialist girl ever <33

blorbo by extension of you and @arlo-ish tbh ..

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Hey! Sorry for the long ask, I just wanted to chime in if possible? Lol I actually haven’t seen all that much Isen hatred so imma talk about Elaine and Zeke in particular.

I think that the reason why people’s reactions to Elaine vs John, Arlo or Sera are so different, is because they are humanised - Elaine, on the other hand, is extremely one-dimensional. So whereas Arlo, John and Sera have their flaws and definitely have done questionable, bad things in the past, the narrative also presents us with different sides of them, as the main trio, which coexist with their bad traits and make them more bearable or even likeable. Characters like Zeke and Elaine, on the other hand, don’t have that - I think uru-chan has a slight issue with creating very one-dimensional minor characters. Take Zeke, for example - arguably, even his actions are not as bad as John and Arlo, per se - though Zeke is responsible for his actions, Arlo validated him with the hierarchy and never bat an eye or involved himself when Zeke abused the other students. John was way more brutal than Zeke, also abused people out of spite and his sick idea for revenge, even seemed to enjoy it back in New Bostin (in case someone wants to argue that it’s different because Zeke enjoys the beatings whereas John did not) and even abused, mentally and physically, his best friends - this is something even Zeke is not doing.

Now what’s the difference, though? Zeke doesn’t have anything deeper to his character than “bully” and this makes him way easier to hate than John or Arlo or Seraphina. He doesn’t get those moments of regret or self-hatred John gets, he doesn’t get soft moments with his buddies the way Arlo gets with Remi, he does’t get to be the “loyal best friend who’d go to hell and back for you” like Seraphina. The same thing could be applied to Elaine - he is just not developed enough and all we’ve got so far is 65% prejudiced snitch, 34.5% Arlo simp, 00.5% aaaw she cares for cripple sera actuallyyt!

Basically, some characters are written with the ideas of being a hate-sink and I think Uru intended to do that with Zeke and partially, Elaine. They can both be considered the “epitome” of what’s wrong with high-tier society (abuse and prejudice) but unlike the other characters who also have hate, love, trauma, trust, friendship etc.etc. to their characters, Zeke and Elaine barely have any of that which leaves them with just..abuse and prejudice (and “haha simp” which doesn’t exactly help Elaine’s case because we know how those characters are usually treated in media)

tbh yeah. its also just the way they're portrayed in the end. we also dont know much about their motivations either. because they're never quite shown in the positive light, its hard to sympathize. and then that effect is only amplified because we rarely ever get internal dialogue from either of them, offering zero insight into their thoughts or motivations

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character bingo for remi my beloved?

also how are u doing? hope ur having a good day/night

i love remi so much oh my

and im doing alright! im heading to school right about now which is .. kind of unfortunate lmao

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blyke my beloved for the ask game -pancakes

HES SO IMPORTANT

he got done dirty a lot like so many people just do not understand him :[

hes so ?? interesting ?? and his blatant trauma[?] is overlooked so often it makes me froth at the mouth

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A quick response on ur recent post (abt Elaine and isen and their "deserved" hate)

Ok ok but, you'll see the same exact people saying that people like Elaine and Isen deserve to burn in the pit of hell ALSO say that John, Arlo, Sera etc etc (but mostly John) are justified by their actions bc that's what the hierarchy and government did to them

Like?? John hospitalized his entire grade?? And ruined his (past) friends lives?? And continued to hospitalize more people??

Nd Arlo hijacked a "cripple"?? and created and led a hurtful hierarchy?? And abused his power?? And didnt give two shits about anyone below an elite tier before his recent redemption arc??

And Sera just like stood there?? Who even knows if she was like Arlo before cause we dint really see much of past Sera without John

What I'm trying to say is if John, Arlo and Sera are all just precious little cinnamon rolls that were hurt and manipulated by the government and their society, then so are Isen and Elaine (and so many other people)

I din't really hate the godtier trio or any character really (except the obvious ones keon) but if anybody says that one person is worse than the other than their not really seeing the message behind the story zmh

oh my god anon i love you so much lets get mcdonalds

tbh yeah exactly. im not sure exactly whos saying what since it wasnt directed at a particular person/group. i do know that excusing anyone's actions ever at all is shitty. it doesn't matter if you excuse all of them, excusing what they've done is bad.

that being said, it doesn't mean they can't be forgiven and understood. yes, they were all hurt by the government, but they did still do a ton of hurtful things. the opposite also applies

yes, elaine tends to be a bit of a snitch and occasionally classist [idk if that's the term i should be using for the tiers correct me if im wrong], but she's still a victim of the hierachy and its terrible system.

yes, isen tends to be very self-serving and ignorant, but he is still a victim of the hierachy and has suffered a lot at the hands of the people around him.

the same and opposite goes for arlo, john, etc.

basically no one deserves blatant hate for actions heavily influenced by the hierarchy and no one should be villainized but no one should be excused of those actions regardless.

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heya spex!! sera for the blorbo ask game?

hey cass!! ty for the ask <3

sera's really cool i like her a lot and i loathe the god awful takes i see about her.. i find, unfortunately, her arcs are often reduced to her stuff with john and her nullification, rather than her issues with her mother and the system. shes amazing, plus: SIBLING DYNAMIC!!!

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YOU KNOW THE BASTARD I WANT FOR THE GAME.

OF COURSE I DO KAZZ . EVIL FUCKING AWFUL PERSON!!!!

he's not quite my blorbo, he's more like my blorbo-in-law if anything,, but i care about him so much i need to bite down on him like a fucking chew toy. his stuff with valerie is probably my favourite part of his character/arc hes so insane

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For the blorbo ask game: Blyke!

-mer

he's a blorbo i don't talk a lot about but i think i'm a hundred percent right about. only a select few other than me understand him,,,,, people seem to misunderstand him a lot unfortunately

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Volcan definitely can cook, she turned rei into a snack

nah she just burns everything-- no ones gonna eat that crispy shit

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I dislike john because i’m trans and i’m like 90% sure he is one of those dudebros who identify as “super straight”. No i will not elaborate

HELPPP AS FUNNY AS THIS IS, AGREE TO DISAGREE

i gen dont think anyone in the unO cast is homophobic just because i think theyre all gay,,,,,

but i can definitely see most of the high tiers being really ignorant via internalized homophobia + being uneducated

arlo was definitely homophobic for a bit cause i think he grew up in a really conservative household. john thought 'gay' was an insult for the longest time and would lash out like "IM NOT GAY" when he was younger cause other kids would call him gay as an insult. isen just didnt understand it for a really long time until he met blyke. cecile thought it was stupid and a bit weird for a while until she got educated + realized she was gay 👍

blyke and remi i think are the only ones i consider to have never really been homophobic even as kids. i hc them both as trans [blyke's afab and remi's amab] and i think their parents were pretty accepting. we love mama lightning <3

help this turned into my hcs ab them why. anyways agree to disagree but the ideas so funny to me GVHSKS

from one trans to another, i can see it