#sorry this is so long i have huge opinions on kfp
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eosofspades · 10 months ago
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i actually disagree that it would nullify the point of his character. redemption would be a very narratively and thematically satisfying ending for him.
the "point" of tai lung's character in the first movie wasn't that he was ontologically evil or had chosen, now and forever, that he wanted to be bad for the sake of being bad. the reason he turned to darkness was because he had been raised his whole life to believe that he was entitled to the dragon scroll, that he was MEANT to be the dragon warrior, and he felt personally betrayed by shifu (his mentor and father figure), because shifu did not try to defend his honor or worthiness (which, at this point in his life, he had based his entire identity upon). he acted out of anger and betrayal, and then got thrown into prison to stew in resentment for twenty years, and then FINALLY got out to learn that the status he had worked his whole life to attain was just being handed to someone else. tai lung acted out of resentment and he WAS a villain, but he wasn't inherently evil.
the entire message of the first movie was that you CAN be the dragon warrior with or without some mystical power from the scroll; that there IS no secret ingredient that makes you good or worthy, it is just you and what you choose to do. tai lung, at this current point, had just FINALLY confronted shifu (an extremely emotional scene), and the moment he finds that the scroll is blank and powerless, his entire worldview has been shattered. at THIS moment, of course he is unable to accept this or react rationally.
but now? four movies later, after having time to reflect in the spirit world (plus the sudden shock of whatever the chameleon has done to him), it might just be enough for him to choose differently. and choosing to be good on your own was the entire point of the first movie! (there were even specific points in the first movie that made it clear he WASN'T wholly bad, and could have stopped fighting - his face softens when shifu says that he's always been proud of him, before he gets angry about the scroll being blank, he just sounds afraid, etc.)
redemption wouldn't nullify his character; i even think that him becoming the next dragon warrior would be really fitting! in the first film, he turned to darkness because he had misunderstood and grown obsessive over the concept of being the dragon warrior and the power that would come with it. but the whole point of a redemption arc is choosing differently than what you did before, so him finally internalizing the message that there is no secret ingredient, it is just you - and finally understanding the message of the first movie that he failed to grasp the first time - would be a very fitting ending to his character.
“I can’t wait for Tai Lung’s redemption” y’all. Not every good character needs to be redeemed. Redeeming Tai Lung would make the point of his character in the first movie just… pointless. He’s cool as hell and you can like him but that doesn’t mean he should be or has to be redeemed. Why do people think he needs to be redeemed just because he is a sympathetic villain ???
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dreamboundedstar · 8 years ago
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I Was Tagged:
Normally, I would hate doing these but considering this is from a site I’m not too popular on, it’s nice to be included at all.
I was tagged by @alex8andre
 Coke or Pepsi: Neither, I choose Dr. Pepper because I like the soda and it’s company also makes yoo-hoo (chocolate drinks ftw)
Disney or DreamWorks: Yes
Coffee or tea: I hate tea and I don’t drink coffee. I had some for a bit just to try it but it doesn’t do much for me. I choose hot chocolate.
Books or movies: Movies, I’m shamefully not much of a reader.
Windows or Mac: Windows
DC or Marvel: Archie! For Sonic the hedgehog. To give you a real answer I’d choose Marvel.
Xbox or Playstation: Playstation
Dragon age or Mass effect: I don’t play M-rated games.
Night owl or early riser: Definitely Night owl. I need to start getting better at that though.
Cards or chess: Cards because I love war.
Chocolate or vanilla: Chocolate
Vans or converse: I don’t really have a preference when it comes to vehicles. I just want it to be safe.
Lavellan, Trevelyan, Cadash or Adaar: Yeah, I have no idea what that even means.
Fluff or angst: Fluff
Beach or forest: Neither, I’m a homebody. I can just look at picture of them online and I’ll be fine.
Dogs or cats: Cats
Clear skies or rain: Clear skies, but I prefer skies when they have some clouds the most. Rain just messes up my internet which I do not appreciate. 
Cooking or eating out: If I could afford the calories and money I’d eat out everyday.
Spicy food or mild food: I like spicy food to an extent because my taste buds require a lot of exciting flavor to be satisfied. I appreciate mild food as well though.
Halloween/Samhaim/Solstice/ yule/ Christmas: I’d be remiss if I didn’t choose Christmas as a Christian. 
Would you rather forever be a little too cold or a little too hot (and no the winter coats and AC are not an option): Considering I have the AC on now because it’s a little cold I choose a little hot.
If you could have a super power, what would it be: Shapeshifting.
Animation or live action: Animation all the way!
Paragon or renegade: Sorry, I don’t understand this?
Baths or showers: Showers
Team Cap or Team Ironman: I haven’t seen the movie, but I choose Captain America.
Fantasy or sci fi: Fantasy I also like sci-fi a bit too.
Do you have three or four favorite quotes, if so what are they? If not do you think you will in the future?: 
Sorry, I can’t think of any at the moment except maybe some KFP quotes.
YouTube or Netflix: Well since Youtube is free and it’s been so long since I actually had Netflix I choose the former.
Classic Disney, Disney Renaissance or Modern Disney?: Disney Renaissance but I also like Modern Disney. I just really miss Disney’s 2D animated movies.
What would you tell your younger self: Stop daydreaming and actually do something with your creative, cartoon-loving, mind.
If you could change one thing about the world around you, what would it be?: I want people to stop using profanity as a way to hide they have nothing intelligent to say. I hate it when I see a person who may actually make a good point but completely ruins by spewing out needless profanity making me not want to like it because I want my page to be appropriate for at least some ages instead of just over 18.
Make music or listen to music: Listen to music. I don’t know my “scales and arpeggios” (reference to the adorable Aristocats movie)
Shakespeare’s comedies or tragedies: I don’t read much Shakespeare but I assume I would prefer comedy over tragedy.
What song do you have stuck in your head right now?: Probably a song from some musical.
Going to a concert or a huge party: They both sound horrible to me! I prefer not to be surrounded by many screaming/drunk people, thank you. Although, if it was a Christian concert I might consider even then I still wouldn’t like being around loud music with a bunch of crowded people.
Favorite animal: I’m not sure I like a lot of animals when they are in pictures. I’m not much of an animal lover when I have to live with them. I do like cats and fluffy rodents like bunnies and alike.
Favorite TV show: I watched a lot of tv when I was younger so I can’t say. At the moment I am waiting to see the next of Steven Universe and I plan to see the new episode of SVTFOE. I’m also eagerly waiting for the next of MLP:FIM.
Favorite Disney movie: I like a lot of them I can’t really say. I can probably list some but my opinion may change in the future. It’s also in no specific order.
Mulan, Hercules, the Lion King series, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin.
Favorite Movie you watched in 2016? Doesn’t have to had come out in 2016, just something new you watched: Between KFP3, Zootopia, and Moana.
Dearest childhood memory: I guess mostly playing video games without the worrying about the future.
Favorite food: I love food so I really can’t decide. I mostly love food containing some form of wheat/grain/corn product in it. I either go for Italian food or Mexican food. I’m currently craving Taco Bell bean burritos at the moment. I love Olive Garden. I used to love the super nachos at Hardees until they started downgrading it.
What’s Your MBTI TYPE?:  INFP
 I tag nobody because I’m not that kind of person. Plus I don’t follow a lot of people that would pay attention to this anyway .
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