#sometimes i wonder if these guys are just jealous that they dont get catered to the same way anymore?
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fite-club · 3 months ago
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do you have any thoughts on the idea that queer spaces reject masculine gender presentation once a trans man transitions? a lot of arguments for transandrophobia seem to center on the idea that trans men (or, in a broader league, queer men in general) get rejected by queer spaces by virtue of becoming more masculine. these arguments have always bothered me a lot because i find the idea that queer spaces somehow value gnc people above masculine men and feminine women ludicrous—except for a very, very small niche of gay people, there is no such thing as a serious need for more masculine men. it’s always stricken me as a need to be included even in events specific to gender nonconforming people, but i’m curious to know if there is an actual ostracization of masculinity in the queer community at large that i have simply not experienced
for context, i live in a big city in the global south with a bustling ballroom/gay nightlife scene, which is where most of my experience comes from. a lot of the gay people i have met in my life have been mostly masculine-presenting gay men, and from where i stood, it never seemed to me that any of these people were at a disadvantage in comparison to their gnc peers. the only time i have ever seen masculinity get mildly disregarded was during ballroom competitions, where the contestants are mostly transfemme, although i have seen a good number of men trans and cis alike compete (and win!) in masc categories as well
it’s never been something i personally experienced, and i don’t think i know anyone else who has either. maybe it was the specific experience of some individuals, but i really don’t think it can be broadly applied to the lgbt community as a whole. i wonder if there’s any actual exclusion going on or if it’s just a perceived judgement that isn’t actually there? i can believe that transphobic cis people would act weird around transitioned trans men, but i have a really hard time believing that they’re disproportionately weird around trans men and not trans women.
there used to be this sentiment that the gay community was misogynistic and macho, that femmes and faggy bottoms were disrespected and shunned by the masc-for-masc cis gays. that was never really true either, but it’s been more accurate to my real life experiences in queer spaces than the opposite.
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i7scenarios · 6 years ago
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Boys with a (female?) s/o that's also an idol? (I dont usually like to put gender in requests but i was picturing kind of a j-pop girl image lol)
I got quite a few like this ^^ so of course!
Boys with Idol girl s/o
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Iori
-Even though he is an idol himself he still doesn’t particularly like the fact you are too.
-He is happy you are doing something that makes you and others happy, since he knows that feeling all too well.
-Still, you are SUPER cute and he doesn’t like that the whole world gets to see that side of you as well.
-He is the type to get on your case and make sure you are taking proper care of yourself, almost like he is managing you too…
Yamato
-He won’t ever admit it, but he is very proud of you.
-Being in the business he loves to see you happy when preforming and also loves that he can share his experiences with you.
-Does not like when other guys get too close or stare, your relationship whether you are dating in secret or not he will make sure that every guy out there knows they need to back off. Use those scary eyes mister!!
-He talks a big game about how awesome and sexy you are, though he does worry about your health and wellbeing, not to mention he knows this business is full of deceitful bastards…
Mitsuki
-Your biggest fan! Even it kills him he will do his best to be at every one of your lives, with his hand made fan of course!
-What makes him the happiest is that you both get to do what it is you love and there are even times when you get to work together. Those are the moments that he treasures the most.
-He feels even more confident about himself since someone as amazing as you fell in love with him, he wishes he could shout out to the world that you are his! All though he would never do that so as not to risk ruining your guys’ careers.
-You talk about idols A LOT!
Tamaki
-He thinks it’s awesome that you are an idol like him. He loves watching you dance, wishing that the two of you could perform together sometime.
-He can get pretty jealous when other guys praise you or show you attention. No matter how many times you tell him that you only have eyes for him. He can get pretty smug after you state that though ^^;
-When he watches you working so hard it makes him want to work that much harder as well. Sogo always says you are a good influence on him.
-When he finds out that his sister looks up to you, it makes him even more proud, he is happy that connection is there as well.
Sogo
-He loves listening to your voice, always playing your music during his travels.
-He can get a bit jealous at times from your popularity, wondering if he is good enough for you. Even after the dozens of times you have stated you think he is amazing and love him with your very being.
-Sogo has a new dream after meeting you, one he is too embarrassed to tell. He wants to write a song for you, creating a piece of music together would make him happier then he could ever express with words.
-He wants to keep growing and developing his music so you will be just as proud of him as he is of you.
Nagi
-Nagi thinks you are amazing and of course beautiful. The way you make people happy is such a wonderful thing.
-Every time he sees you on TV or on a magazine he is filled with such warmth and pride.
-He messages you constantly, always pointing out how amazing you were and letting you know in detail that he was obviously watching you.
-Seeing all of the adorable outfits you wear, even he has to admit that your cuteness outranks Kokona.
Riku
-You are his idol! In more ways than one!!
-Seeing you work hard makes him push himself that much harder. Not always a good thing since sometimes he can end up pushing himself too far. Then he feels guilty that you take time off to come take care of him.
-Listening to your voice soothes him and yet gets his adrenalin pumping at the same time. The fact you met each other in this world and both get to do something you love makes him feel really lucky. Not just because someone as amazing as you fell in love with him!
-Without knowing it he tends to brag about how awesome you are to the others, they never get annoyed since Riku is so pure it’s really cute to watch him fawn over you!  
TRIGGER
Gaku
-He thinks you are amazing of course, the two of you are a perfect pair!
-Even if his father doesn’t want him dating someone in the industry, he doesn’t care, love is most import and the two of you can overcome any obstacles that you may face.
-He has a collection of everything you have done, be it music, modeling shots, merch. Though he hides that from you…
-He loves giving you sexy little whispers backstage, seeing you getting fired up because of him is what makes his day.
Tenn
-Of course you are amazing, his equal in fact.
-The thing he loves most about you is that you understand what it means to be a pro and always give it your best.
-You glow on stage and he is always filled with such pride when seeing you preform and how you cater to your fans.
-Even if you both are busy often and don’t have much time to spend together, that is okay! Knowing that the two of you are working your hardest just makes those moments when you do see each other more rewarding!
Ryuunosuke
-He loves to see you working hard, not to mention how beautiful you always look.
-There are times he wonders how others see you, like how he is known for being a sex symbol. The thought of others thinking of you in the same way does make him uncomfortable, but he does accept that is part of the job.
-Your days are busy so you meet up for late night drinks a lot. He loves that even in the world of show business he can be his true self with you without any judgment.
-He always searches SMS to see your reviews and how happy you made the fans. Though if he ever reads anything negative he will grow so angry that even Tenn and Gaku get scared.
Re:vale
Momo
-You are just as amazing as Yuki to him, so gorgeous and sexy!
-He loves watching you preform and watching your MC skills. You always manage to show everyone such a good time!
-The two of you have a lot of secret codes that you show during TV programs, little ways of letting the other know that you are thinking about them.
-On days you have off together the two of you spend as much time having a new adventure as possible. Even though you get spotted quite easily, it’s still fun when you are together.
Yuki
-He loves your music; you are like his muse!
-He enjoys having you around as inspiration when composing. You don’t even have to say anything, just you being by his side is somehow motivating to him.
-Yuki can’t help but be impressed how together you are, somehow you can wake yourself up and take care of your health while being an idol, it’s impressive. Not only that but you still manage to find the time to check up on him and see him whenever you are free.
-He would love to secretly write you something. Having you sing one of his songs would be the perfect gift for the both of you!
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editinspire-blog · 8 years ago
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Just A Friend
Request: Can you write one when your on the phone to someone and you say 'I love you' to them and the joker hears and he starts doubting everything you had and starts screaming and punching the wall. He would want to kill you but he loves you so he keeps you locked up until he finds the person you were talking to? ~~~YOUR POV~~~ *ring ring, ring ring* "hello?" I ask as I didn't read the contact name for I was busy reading a new book "hey there beautiful" I hear the voice through the phone "joooooosh, how you doing?" I ask, I haven't seen josh since high school "I'm good long time no see, huh" he says "yeah, I missed you" I tell him honestly, he was like the brother I never had, he was always there for me. "I heard about your parents, are you alright?" He asks, oh my parents right, the ones I killed, good thing I knew the police, I'm that good girl that lives down the street, hmph yeah right. "Yeah I'm okay it's been a couple months. I live with someone else now" I tell him not wanting to say who "oih where are you get back to work" I hear someone say in the background, "that's good, well I got to go, see you, bye" he says "bye, love you" I tell him and hang up. "Who was that?" I hear J say as he walks in freakishly slow "no one" I tell him, it's not like it matters, right? "How come you never tell me you love me?" He asks. I dont say anything, it's not my fault, it's not like he loves me. "I asked you a question" he yells at me "because" I tell him faintly "just because?" He asks as I stand up. When I don't answer he pushes me firmly against the wall "ouch" I whimper "are you cheating on me, did you never love me, what did we have, huh?" He screams right in my face. I flinch at his words "what, you think I'm gonna hurt you?" He yells "well your probably right" he whispers menacingly and as I'm thinking of all the things he could do to me he grabs my arm and drags me out of the room and into a room I've never entered before. He shoves me in, I land face first and when I turn around I instantly see him lock the door. ~~~THE JOKERS POV~~~ "J?" I hear her concerned voice say "Jocker!" She says sternly. She never calls me Jocker. I walk up to the door with the little window in it "yes darling" I snarl "are you going to kill me like you did Harley" she asks bittersweetly. I remember that day, seeing Harley with him, to be honest i couldn't care less but I was furious that she would think about doing anything like that to me, so I cut her off. This is different though, I do care, I love her and I would never do anything to hurt her, so why would she hurt me. I walk back into the room she was in and see a book that I've never seen before, this wasn't from my shelf 'the truth about forever' doesn't sound interesting to be honest, I look at the back wondering if it's more interesting than it seems. 'That's what Macy has to look forward to while her boyfriend, Jason, is away at Brain Camp. Days will be spent at a boring job in the library, evenings will be filled with vocabulary drills for the SATs, and spare time will be passed with her mother, the two of them sharing a silent grief at the traumatic loss of Macy's father.But sometimes, unexpected things can happen—things such as the catering job at Wish, with its fun-loving, chaotic crew. Or her sister's project of renovating the neglected beach house, awakening long-buried memories. Things such as meeting Wes, a boy with a past, a taste for Truth-telling, and an amazing artistic talent, the kind of boy who could turn any girl's world upside down. As Macy ventures out of her shell, she begins to question her sheltered life'. Y/n has a sheltered life here and quite obviously she's met a new boy, maybe that's why this book is interesting to her. ~~~LE BEAUTIFUL TIME SKIP~~~ "Get up we're going out to do some more business" I tell her as I walk in but when I stop to look at her she's just sitting down facing the wall, her hair is messy and pieces of her clothes are torn. "I'm not going to hurt you" I tell her as I lean against the door frame "i bet you told Harley that to" she says still staring blankly at the wall. "Just get it over with, I don't want to be sitting here waiting for death" she tells me "I told you were going out so get your outfit on" I say as I walk away leaving the door open wide so she can go and get ready. ~~~YOUR POV~~~ We walk down the streets of Gotham and J pulls me into a little alleyway "what are we doing?" I ask but instead of answering he pushes me forward. "Josh?" I ask as I see him there. What does Joker have planned "hey beautiful, why did you ask to meet me?" He asks "I never asked to-ohhhh" I say realising what's going on. "Hahahahha, you put 2 and 2 together, good job sweet cheeks hahah" Joker laughs as he walks out of the shadows "joker?" Josh asks "what's going on y/n?" He asks again "I-I don't know" I tell him honestly. " how about I tell you what's goin on Joshy boy, you see my girlfriend here was on the phone to another man, do you know how that makes me feel? And then to make it even worse, she says I love you" joker says in a fake calm voice "Sh-she's your girlfriend?" He asks "yep, bet ya didn't know that, did ya ahahahah" he laughs again. "J why are we here?" I ask him getting sick of his stupid game. "For this" he states with an angry type voice as he brings out his gun and aims it right at Josh "don't you dare do that" I yell at him as I run in front of Josh "your not gonna stop me are ya, you've always wanted me to kill the bad guys hahah" he laughs again "Josh is not a bad guy" I say as I walk up to him and push the arm holding the gun down. I quickly bend his arm backwards making him drop the gun as I kick it towards Josh. He's such an idiot "pick up the stupid gun" I yell at him "oh" he quickly says as he bends down and points it at J. I run towards Josh taking the gun off him still having it pointed at Joker "come on J I don't want to do this" I say as I push Josh away making him run out of the alleyway and off somewhere away from J. "And you won't, he's gone now" he says sighing as he sits on the curb. I go to sit with him, not as comfort though. "Why are you doing this?" I ask him "because y/n, I'm jealous, your my girlfriend not his and you say I love you to him but not me, how does that work?" He yells at me "because you can't feel love and I can" I yell "if I say I love you your just going to hurt my heart, I know it" I say sadly now "this is why I never say I love you" I tell him honestly "y/n, I might not fell love the way you do, but I do love you, in my fucked up way, it might not be the love you want and it's definitely not the love you deserve, but I'm giving you all of my love" he says looking down at the pavement. "I love you" I tell him "I love you too"
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