#someone commented on that prev anon post that started this saying

[willgrahamscock]

your icon is getting more and more crazy everytime you appear on my dash

I’m just an #ally

[hchollym]

I agree with the prev anon. I was under the impression that Dumbledore or someone always tried to make sure the golden trio key quiet about everything (at least to family and other adults) about what they know and what’s happened until Dumbledore knew for sure Voldemort was back. I wouldn’t be surprised if JK Rowling simply forgot to add anything about the Weasley parents and how they feel about Sirius Black in the fourth book or didn’t find it important. We saw similar with the end of the second book and start of the third book with how the Weasley parents had nothing to say about their daughter going back to school after being possessed and going through something deeply traumatic, sure this could be written off as them not wanting to make her worry or be scared but this is Molly Weasley we’re talking about.

Either way I think the order and everyone went about everything very wrong when it came to telling people Voldemort was back. Do I think Percy could have do some stuff better? Sure. But I think he and everyone else who didn’t immediately believe Harry had every right to act that way. There was no proof provided except from a teenager who’s obviously traumatized but is still a teen. I mean, they could have had him down an unbreakable vow or show his memories or truth serum or something to show Harry was telling the truth and didn’t. I certainly understand why so many wouldn’t believe him when all of that was possible. (And I get this was for the development of the story but still it certainly does make it easy to understand the other characters!

In response to this post.

I got a few comments & asks about how much the Weasleys knew about certain information, so I decided to check back in Book 4 to see if I'd forgotten something, and this is what it says about Sirius:

Harry, Ron, and Hermione knew otherwise, however; they had come face-to-face with Wormtail only the previous year, though only Professor Dumbledore had believed their story.

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Harry knew Ron had been about to ask about Sirius. Ron and Hermione had been so deeply involved in helping Sirius escape from the Ministry of Magic that they were almost as concerned about Harry’s godfather as he was. However, discussing him in front of Ginny was a bad idea. Nobody but themselves and Professor Dumbledore knew about how Sirius had escaped, or believed in his innocence.

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“And now,” he said, “it is time for two of our number to recognize each other for what they are. Sirius . . . if you could resume your usual form.”  The great black dog looked up at Dumbledore, then, in an instant, turned back into a man.  Mrs. Weasley screamed and leapt back from the bed.  “Sirius Black!” she shrieked, pointing at him.  “Mum, shut up!” Ron yelled. “It’s okay!”

This implies that everyone was told that Sirius was innocent (though not about Harry's part in helping a prisoner escape custody, which is an understandable thing to hide), but no one believed it.

Even when Molly sees Sirius, she doesn't need to be told why he's there or that he's innocent, and she doesn't ask any questions about - it's more of an "I told you so; get over it" thing.

So I think Percy did hear about the Wormtail situation - but whether he believed it or not is up to interpretation. The text implies that he didn’t; I personally think he was in denial, but there was a part of him that knew it was the truth (whether he wanted to admit it or not).

As for Voldemort's return, it was a little more complicated. People in the Wizarding World believed the propaganda that Fudge and the Ministry/newspapers under his control were saying. This is not a new concept - propaganda has historically been very effective in wartime.

Could the Order have done a better job spreading the truth? Maybe. But if you think about the source (Harry & Dumbledore) and the sheer implausibility of their story, then it's not surprising that a lot of people didn't believe them.

To be very clear, I'm not blaming the people who didn't believe the Order, because why would they? Dumbledore & Harry (a man known as being “mad” with questionable morals & a traumatized teenage boy with a history of getting into dangerous situations) were claiming that a dead man had come back to life; that would be difficult for anyone to believe.

So I’m not sure that there’s much else the Order could have done to make people believe them, given the circumstances, because even with truth serum or memories, it would be pretty easy for the Ministry to cause doubts about it (since truth serum is not always effective and memories can be tampered with).

However, I do think the Weasleys handled the Percy situation very poorly. For Percy specifically, he was in a position where he could have been convinced of the truth, because he had so many ties to the Order/Harry, but no one really tried, and that is where they failed. 

Thanks for the comment! 😊

[gralunaisland]

yeah that subsection of pros always felt off to me. There's also a popular colourist (also an adult) that stalked an account they were blocked by on twitter to bitch and make fun of how said account didn't believe gruvia fell under the enemies to lovers trope. That teacher the prev anon mentioned defended the colourist by using her age old 'excuse' about how the internet is a public space and that what you post is free to be viewed & commented on in ways you like or dislike. (1/2)

Short Rant About Childish Behavior in Arguments and Hypocrisy

I combined your two asks so it’s easier to respond!

(Side question, I’ve noticed a few of my askers send their ask in 2 parts, and I’m wondering if I somehow have a limit imposed on how long my asks can be, because I’ve sent a pretty long ask to another blog and it let me do it all in one go. Idk if limits for asks is even a thing. If anyone knows what the issue is, because I checked my settings and I don’t see what’s wrong, please do drop a comment/ask! Thanks!)

Honestly, it's just really saddening, that there are so many grown adults who feel justified with harassing people online. I don't think they realize (or choose to ignore) just how many people have committed s*icide because of cyber bullying. It's a real problem, and these types of people are the ones creating it.

First of all, I suppose it's not too surprising this bully of a person would stalk someone who even actively tried to distance themself from them by blocking the bully because that's exactly what their lord and savior juvia lockser would do.

(Remember, y'all, not all Pros are like this, I'd bet most of them aren't, but there really is a subsection of them that act exactly like her).

It really makes me mad that the bullied person was just giving their opinion, a very valid opinion, on what trope they think gr///via is not, and this colorist decided that was fair grounds to mock them and insult them. Again, she's a FICTIONAL CHARACTER! Thinking someone's harmless opinions on a piece of fiction is wrong is negative grounds to mock and insult someone.

Honestly, what's wrong with people nowadays?? I've tried to have calm discussions with people online on things that we disagree over, not even just about gr///via, and more often than not, even if it starts out respectful, it devolves into them making all these assumptions about me and insulting me to high heaven. Even when I call them out on it, and question them by asking, "Do you honestly feel good about yourself for using ad hominem? (which is a fallacy where one attacks you as a person instead of the argument.) Do you feel mature by insulting someone and attacking them just over a disagreement?", and they always seem to say "You don't deserve my respect because you're an idiot" or "a bigoted troglodyte" (that one was new) etc. etc.

These types of people just don't care that about the effect of their words. And the fact they can't see that they only make themselves look like "idiots" or "bigoted troglodytes" or just people who don't have any good arguments is seriously concerning. No matter if someone has a wrong opinion, the moment you insult them is the moment you lose.

Which is worse, being wrong or being a nasty, childish human being? (Imma say the latter every time).

Enough about that rant, back to what you said, Anon.

Hoo boy is this alleged Pro gr///via teacher just continuing to be a grade A disappointment. You're right to put "excuse" in parentheses, because saying "it's a public space" is never a valid reason to be mean to someone. Sure, you have the right to say whatever you want, but that doesn't make you a good or decent human being who should feel proud of themselves. Besides, these are the same people who tell Anti's we have no right to speak about why we don't like gr///via and who mock the existence of Anti blogs like myself on a regular basis, so they're most definitely hypocritical.

Speaking of hypocritical, your second ask shows just how ridiculous some of these people are. I saw a post with that scene where Gray hands Lucy his coat to cover her up, and some Pros continue to be delusional to pretend that GraLu has no chemistry or potential.

They're honestly probably just threatened that there's someone out there that just works better with and is better for Gray and so lash out at GraLu shippers to try and make themselves feel assured that they're the ones in the right. If Pros were really confident and content and happy with their own ship, they wouldn't care that other people ship something that they don't agree with. Shipping is a personal preference thing anyway. But nooo, if anyone dares to suggest that Gray might like someone other than their disgusting queen juvia, they must be publicly shamed until they never step out of line again.

Really, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking almost any scene as a scene that supports their ship for themselves (if it's not something morally abhorrent like p*dophilia or the like of course) if they know the reality of their ship. "Ship moments" shouldn't only describe canonically and intentionally endgame romantic moments between characters; it could be anything, from merely talking to each other, the tone when they do, the facial expressions when they look or speak to or about the other, even when they're just standing next to each other in a scene or a cover image-- it could be anything!

Shippers can headcanon whatever they want, and they can even show other people these scenes and remark on the cuteness or the chemistry of their ship. Pros who want to bash the daydreams of GraLu shippers (or shippers who ship Gray with ANYONE besides juvia) clearly don't trust the chemistry (*cough* the absolute lack thereof *cough*) between Gray and juvia to keep their own ship alive, so the only way they can make their ship seem better is to invalidate all other shippers. I talked about that in this post of mine, which I'm pretty happy with, and a quote I'm taking from that post is "It just shows how insecure you are if you have to invalidate every other ship you don’t approve of in order to feel like your ship is the best or valid."

(It's only when people truly and mistakenly believe that two characters who aren't canonically in love are actually in love and that that's what the author wants that there is a problem, at least concerning their interactions with other people in the fandom. I believe it's just a great way to anger other fans and make yourself look sort of foolish and ignorant. In the end of course, it's not that big a deal, and other people shouldn't treat it as such and should just go about their day because either this person is trolling or is simply and innocently mistaken.)

As a GraLu shipper myself, I soak in allll of the sweet or comedic or downright romantic moments between Gray and Lucy. I even made a list where I documented these moments so I could go back and watch them from my most recent watch-through. But I know the reality is that Mashima sucks at writing romance, and they're not canon or endgame. It's clear that gr///via will have its way with Fairy Tail 100yq no matter what is ethical and good for Gray.

But even knowing the reality of GraLu, it makes no sense that "I wouldn't be allowed" to ship it, since Pros can't tell me what to do (remember y'all, I give all the reasons why people shouldn't ship gr///via, not that no one isn't allowed to), and Pros aren't better than non-canonical shippers because, as I said in this post, canonicity doesn't equal admirability, and it's a perfectly healthy ship! And as I touched on, Pros don't get to define what is considered to be a shippable moment. They're seriously being the delusional ones if they really think a guy, who's blushing profusely, being kind and gentlemanly and offering his jacket to his naked friend, who is herself blushing, isn't romantic or the least bit sweet.

Anyway, I'm glad that other people called them out for their actually dumb take. Glad to know that there are still sane people in this fandom. Now, I wouldn't excuse anyone from stalking people who've blocked them or if they tag correctly or asked them to stop harassing them or what-not, and if an Anti or a GraLu shipper was doing so to the colorist, then that was wrong. But you're exactly right that the "teacher" was being hypocritical and biased by giving their own ally a pass and then condemning others for doing the exact same thing.

And these Pros really want to go there?? They want to go so far as to call GraLu shippers "delusional"?? I've found a lot of the loud Pros to be the delusional ones, where they straight up ignore any of juvia's bad qualities and her damaging effect on Gray and her surroundings and then bash Gray for not wanting to date her as if his consent isn't important and he has no say in the matter. If they were to admit this ship was toxic, that's one thing, but many Pros I've talked to deny any sort of toxicity from juvia at all. They sound exactly like juvia, blissfully ignorant of her misdeeds and willing to attack others who cross her.

Anyway, I hope this rant-y post made sense, and I hope it wasn't too long haha! Thank you so much for the ask and for sharing the annoying and hypocritical moments from the teacher and from a Pro; they're always fun to read!

[josephqunnies]

Okay so PREV anon gave me courage to mention this because it been bothering me since it happened. But yesterday I went to my grandma house and we were talking and somehow started talking about how a friend has been having a rough week and my grandma responded with "I'm not surprised she feels the need to get drunk considering her son has decided that hes *looks around to make sure we arw alone then whispered*"gay"... and start talking about how he probably didnt even know what that meant and that's he would decide later he wasnt... and like it just really hurt me because last year on Facebook I commented under a friend post saying I was part of the LGBTQIA community (I'm bi) and she seemed supportive and told me she still loved me but now she is talking about it as if it's a bad thing and shouldn't be said at all... I guess I'm just hurt (even though I knew they wouldn't be supportive) and confused because last year they made me believe they were

Oh Lordy; those are the worst people. I think it's like they accept it just cuz they're supposed to, like it's so let's say performative for a lack of better words.

I'm sorry; especially for us Bi folks, it's always so acceptable until we're dating someone of the same sex then it's like ?? Oh you're serious

Ya know ?

[onthighsbelongtotaemin]

Minho has released 2 movies - no one showed up at gyechoon's premiere (a lot of idols showed up btw) and only jinki did at derailed's. Same year as gyechoon, during concert tours, everyone talked about everyone's upcoming projects but none about minho's. No, really, you can look up FAs if you want bcs I remember thinking "why is no one talking about his debut?" except at one of the US stops. Sure, you can argue its bcs Minho didn't have a major role in gyechoon but jinki didn't have any major (1

role in dots either but it was mentioned everywhere. Maybe it’s Minho who doesn’t want them to talk about it like you said (thou I can’t see the point behind it) and I’m sure they are more supportive privately like your prev anon said. But not all fans are going to understand that and everyone wants to see their idol being appreciated, at least by their own members. So forgive me, if flamers feel insecure in this area bcs you see there really aren’t that many praises for my bias except he’s (2)       

kind, polite, handsome, “everyone’s #1 fan” with few snarky comments here and there. It’s wrong to label someone an akgae just bcs they spoke something about their bias. No one speaks it out but just as minho is unappreciated, his fandom is too. It’s something you won’t understand bcs you aren’t one. Bring a side-spectator is different than a fan who has spent years waiting to hear some real praise for their bias. (end)      

these asks

um…did you mean for this to sound as aggressive to me as it does?  because if so, you must be pretty damn new to this blog.

because i’m the one who made a post that listed every contribution of shinee’s members to their discography just to highlight minho’s contributions.

i’m the one who sighs happily every time there’s a japanese album because it means i’ll get to hear his voice.

i’m the one who says over & over that his voice is so soothing & i just want him to sing me 60s folk songs as i fall asleep.

& if you want a reason why he wouldn’t want attention i can give you a personal one: it’s easy for me to praise other people yet it is incredibly difficult for me to accept praise.  it’s not unreasonable to assume that minho, shy smile minho, feels the same.

we are often more capable of caring for others than for ourselves.

& again, i said, multiple times, that fans who find this upsetting are within their rights to do so & express their frustration.  it bothers me, it bothers you, it clearly bothers even more shawols.  all i’m saying that could be read as contradictory is that minho doesn’t outwardly seem upset about it & he simply may not be. 

so get upset, be frustrated, call out people who use “akgae” every time someone poses an opinion they disagree with.  but don’t come here & suggest that i haven’t been a supporter of choi minho & his role in shinee.  he may not be my bias but he is definitely precious to me & i wholly agree that he & his fans do not get the attention that they should.

it’s another example of the quiet being overshadowed by the loud & the assumption that the latter’s words are of greater import.  words are just words: minho’s character shows through his actions & as such he deserves far more respect.

personal: i am so proud of him for continuing to act when it was so clear when he started that it’s not a natural skill.  but he loves it & he keeps at it & he’s done so much to continuously improve.  it’s so awesome & i’m so proud of him for keeping at it.  it can’t have been easy to hear all the criticism but he refused to quit.  that’s amazing.