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cheesebearger · 6 months ago

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full on begging anti-civ people to explain just a little bit more what they mean by "destroy society" and "everything means nothing" and "civilization must end and all products of civilization" i desperately need you to clarify what you mean. those are intricate concepts that encompass vast swaths of the lived experiences of all people on earth, and it is deeply confusing.

instead of slapping down every possible idea for living more sustainably as a species, i would genuinely like to see some alternatives suggested. what do you want the future to look like? what does the "end of society" mean to you? because i feel as though the primary issue among anarchists is that no one can quite agree on what they mean by that, and what they want to see happen in the future. i struggle with it myself!

i just don't think defeatist rhetoric is very actionable, and i also think many anti-civ bloggers tend towards using nihilism to avoid engaging with the practicalities of what their philosophy is asking for - to the point where it gets rather confusing trying to figure out what, exactly, they believe the world should become in the aftermath of the destruction of civilization.

#genuinely am interested in hearing more about anti-civ beliefs #but it is difficult for me to engage in a conversation lacking clarity in the use of words #some people say 'destroy society' and mean it as 'destroy patriarchal class systems and their racializing assemblages'#and some people say 'destroy society' and mean 'society is a globalist conspiracy and must be destroyed' which is very different!#i know the second guy. i went to college with him and initially we got along bc we were both anarchists #then i found out that anarchism to him meant something very specifically white man conspiracy irt jewish people and racial minorities being #'in control' of the government in some way. he legit believes illegal immigrants are being bussed to his shitty hometown to steal jobs #but he also says things like 'we need to destroy society' and for the most part sounds like the average anti-civ anarchist on tumblr #so like i really do want to engage with the idea of anti-civilization because western civ is a poisonous concept built on conquest #i'd also just like some clarification on what yall mean by 'destroy' and also what the future should look like to all of you

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