#so people reacted by saying “no actually you're wrong they adored eachother”
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I know some people argue that robin!Jason and Dick were never close post-crisis pre n52 because they only interacted a couple of times in canon and I understand that due to Dick living away when they first met they wouldn't be as close as the relationship Dick has with some of his other siblings, but I would also wish we would take in account that for all three of Jason's years, we have like 30 issues of Jason's run. That's exceedingly small. We have batman #416, we have that one moment in teen titans (i forgot the issue) of jason working with the team, and i think the ski trip we found out later about was included in the same canon*. (also, i do feel like even if you didn't know/like eachother before going on a ski trip together by the end of the ski trip this will have changed, and the picture definitely felt like they were getting along even though Jason's face in the picture was comically weird.) I'm not sure if there were other interactions shown or mentioned, but hey, 2-3/30ish isn't a bad score at all! If we're going 3/30, that's a whole tenth of Jason's robin era.
(And I'm talking about their relationship from Dick's pov since it's the one in question here but it's clear to me in Jason's run, even post-crisis, that Dick is often on his mind and important in his life (with a certain inferiority complex the little siblings of very cool people know well) with stuff like I think Batman #410 or Jason is Legends.)
And even more importantly, 30ish is extremely short for three damn years. That's ten issues per year! Do we assume that Jason was sitting on a shelf for the whole time he's not working with batman in the comics? Do we assume batman was sitting on a shelf twiddling his thumbs all that time during those three years he appears, either? It's perfectly logical to make the assumption that Bruce and Jason were still going out as goddamn Batman and Robin even when it's not shown on screen and having a relationship and interacting together even when it's not seen. In fact it's the most reasonable and logical assumption even. It's obvious Jason and Bruce's interactions extend past what was shown on screen so why wouldn't Dick and Jason? We know from Dick's relationship to his death that Dick cared about Jason. We know how much his death impacted him. Regardless of the (now retconned) terrible mess that was their relationship after Jason came back, they had a relationship, and it was good, and how deep it went is up to interpretation but it doesn't cheapen or lessen any of Dick's relationship with his other siblings to acknowledge that (like, seriously, even though some of them might view it as such in the story, dick's love isn't a prize that can only go to the one blorbo to win the competition. Personally I don't see Robin Jason being his favourite, and that's fine. Probably since, as I only have one sibling to be weird about, this is one aspect of Dick and Jason's relationship that I don't project onto them.)
There's a difference between saying "those are the only canon interactions between Dick and Robin!Jason that we know of" and saying "those are the only interactions that happened between Jason and Dick when Jason was Robin", especially if the next sentence is going to be something like "read a comic". I want to insist that I'm not saying that they have to have been super close. All I'm saying is I don't see, with the knowledge I personally have of canon and the retcons I choose to disregard (because of terrible writing), why considering that they were close wouldn't be canon compliant.
Leeway, nuance and up to interpretation stuff are fun and should matter for evaluating the level of canon compliance of your own headcanons, and I think it's especially important when trying to police other people's interpretation of canon: are you certain their interpretation is fanon and you're correcting it with the right canon, or is it a case of two headcanons clashing in the blank space between comic pages?
I just found it strange to never see it taken in account in the sometimes pretty emphatic takes I saw on the debate around their relationship, so those are my two cents on the matter. All this to say, [theatre joke in coming], when it comes to Dick and Jaybin, we could all stand to be more chill.
* btw i'm excluding dixon's nightwing year one from this conversation because I hate how it manages to shit on every one of the characters i've seen him write in it so violently and also fuck dixon, my jason comes from post-crisis not that crappy weirdo retcon.
#in terms of exact numbers my knowledge is spotty so feel free to add clarifications/details i'd missed#it's just i feel people be strangely aggressive about it in all sides of the debate#i feel like there was the belief that “dick hated jason as robin and was a dick to him”#so people reacted by saying “no actually you're wrong they adored eachother”#and people then reacted to THAT by saying “both of you are wrong in canon they didn't hate eachother but didn't really know eachother”#and i feel like it's more nuanced and up to interpretation#and we could all stand to be a little more chill about it#me included i'm aware i have big (projected) feelings about this tbh#and again if we could stop treating relationships romantic or platonic between two characters as a threat to their relationship to others#that would be awesome#you can attack me on my terrible humour but you can't attack me on not having a 100% encyclopedic knowledge of dc btw#I'm advocating for humility regarding one's grasp on a very very large and complex body of works when judging other's takes on it#literally don't be a dick that's nightwing's job#and jason's in brothers in blood#dc#dc comics#fandom critical#jason todd#jaybin#nightwing#discowing#batbros#jason and dick#batfam#dick grayson
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synopsis ― enhypen reacting to someone asking, "when's the wedding?" pairing ― gn!reader x enhypen
rate ― sfw // fluff warning(s) ― none! word count ― to be determined
♡ ― enhypen is too young to even start thinking of marriage, but please do not take this the wrong way as it is just a cute and fun little headcanon! ♡ ― please like + reblog ― feel free to follow if you enjoy the content below!
JUNGWON ―
╴would be on v-live with jay ╴and your relationship was actually public even though they were one of the newer groups ╴everyone thought the relationship was very wholesome and sweet, and everyone hoped for the two of you to get married ╴it wasn't uncommon for the members to joke around and say the two of you already act like an old married couple since they witnessed some of the bickering ╴jay and jungwon would be reading through the v-live comments when jay stumbles across the question ╴"jungwon, they wanna know when you and y/n are going to get married" he laughs as he reads the question ╴jungwon would smile and slightly blush, "i'm only 18 guys!" ╴jay laughs and proceeds to add more detail, "they already act like they're married so no wedding is needed"
HEESEUNG ―
╴his relationship with you was revealed a little later but there was speculations ╴he was used to the questions about you, obviously simple ones like, "when are you going to reveal your partner," "we want to see couple pics," you know the whole gist of it all ╴however, finally ╴hybe released statements and heeseung released pictures ╴everyone loved the two of you and loved the visuals ╴you and heeseung were both on v-live since the fans wanted to seee how the two of you interacted with eachother ╴nothing but playful bickering and fluff, obviously ╴the two of you were attentive to the comments, heeseung more than you but you stumble across the question ╴you whisper into his ear, "fans want to know when you're going to marry me babe" ╴heeseung would laugh before looking at the camera, "no marriage anytime soon guys" ╴you would laugh as well, but now you're curious ╴will he marry you?
JAY ―
╴jay is very talkative ╴i can imagine him just completely boasting about you, whether it's to family or friends, or even the members ╴everyone knew how much jay was in love with you ╴and how much he cared and adored you ╴it was common knowledge ╴however, this boy talks about you almost nonstop ╴so jake popped the question in the dorms, "when's the wedding jay?" ╴jay would pause mid sentence and pretend to think hard, "i don't know maybe in a few hours?" he would joke before giving another response ╴"maybe in a few years, i know you're eager to be the flower boy." he jokes again ╴jake would laugh at the response and jay would proceed to get on his phone to text you about what he was just asked ╴cute & wholesome ╴jay will marry you, he loves you like he's loved no other
JAKE ―
╴SO CUTE ╴LITERJNSKDNS ╴anyways ╴jake would be on a v-live ╴and he was answering some of the english questions ╴however a lot of the questions were about you or relationships in general ╴he always got so shy and flustered seeing your name come up on v-lives because he wasn't used to millions of people knowing about hsi love life ╴the way he face lights up when he sees your name though, ugh so cute his little smile, (head over heels for him rn) ╴but without realizing it he reads the, "so when's the wedding?" question out loud ╴covers his mouth quickly and laughs ╴"i'm still pretty young guys, maybe one day though." ╴blushes for the rest of the v-live at the thought of seeing you walking down the aisle
SUNGHOON ―
╴cutsie wootsie LKMFAO ╴gets so shy talking about you, always ends up doing a soft nervous laugh ╴he loves you so much, but always gets so surprised when people wanna know about the two of you ╴yes, sometimes the boy is cocky but he's really just like a baby ╴the question was brought up in a group setting, probably during an interview ╴i can imagine one of the questions being, "who's going to get married first?" and they all point to sunghoon ╴followed by someone asking, "so when's the wedding then?" ╴would immediately smile and break out into nervous laughter, "no, no i'm too young." ╴the members would laugh allow justifying his response saying they're all so young but maybe one day
SUNOO ―
╴just clap and laugh ╴ni-ki would be the one to ask the question ╴the boy is always joking around, but ever since sunoo got a partner ni-ki can't seem to get enough of teasing the two of you ╴you and sunoo would be bickering over which ice cream flavor to get, he obviously wants mint choco, but you on the other hand do not (personally i like mint choco and would hope others do too, but for the sake of the story you do not like it) ╴"you guys already bicker like an old couple, are you sure you guys aren't married already?" ╴the two of you would laugh at niki ╴niki would laugh as well, "but seriously, when's the wedding?" ╴sunoo would reply jokingly, "not any time soon until they start liking mint chocolate" ╴you laugh, "it's not awful, it's just not my favorite."
RIKI ―
╴v-live 100% ╴riki would be doing a dance jam and you were there supporting him ╴the viewers loved seeing you too, it made them feel young again ╴young love frfr ╴anyways, riki would always take the time to read some of the comments, especially if a song he didn't really vibe to was playing ╴or sometimes you would read through the comments yourself and say them outloud so he could answer them when he wasn't looking ╴everyone loved the dynamic between you too and although you're both pretty young they couldn't help but imagine what it would be like if the two of you really did end up together forever ╴it wouldn't exactly be, "when's the wedding?" but more so of a, "do you want to marry her?" ╴he read the question to himself instead of reading it out loud, but he still answered, he said the person's username and replied, "maybe one day, not yet." ╴everyone was confused since they didn't know who he was talking about or what he was talking about, but to the person who asked the question, they knew exactly what was going on
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