#so i think derap and zam or like 4c or someone else will know to try and get to them first

[mcytegg]

if team Guardians actually wanted to be a threat, and for bans to be meaningful, theyd lock tf in and grind out echo shards in every ancient city when the border expands so they can have the monopoly on revive beacons.

[sol-rambles]

I think Zam is so much more invested in Atlas than Derap is. Mainly as well I know derap has done things for Zam, he has also hidden and lied (or plans to) about most important things he finds.

First example that I can think of is Pangi at Zaun. Derap showed Pangi to Zaun. That is a thing he did, which him and Zam had previously Agreed Not to. Like he fully went against Zam's wishes and took Pangi there. Then they both proceeded to tell Zam that Pangi found it (if I recall correctly..)

Another time, which whilst he hasn't had a chance to tell Zam. The prot4 glitch. He has stated multiple times that he is Not going to. Aswell as telling 4C to not tell Zam. He is making sure Zam one doesn't know about the glitch. If he does, he finds out on his own either indirectly from Derap or 4C, or he finds it by himself and doesn't realise that Derap has been hiding it from him/he finds that part out later.

4C alliance, due to the nature of it. I'm almost certain Derap will not tell Zam about this. It is an alliance formed through the prot4 glitch, therefore it is highly unlikely he'd tell him.

Base I guess? This was explicitly Zam's choice though :3.

Either way I'm certain there's more of these, I'm explicitly not a Derap viewer his chat pisses me off too much to even open stream. So everything is picked up through liveblogs or other streams.

He is building up a list of reasons for Zam to not trust him. Like if you can't be trusted to atleast Tell your teammate, who by the way let you have 10 of his hearts (I know this is a big deal for Derap) atleast that your using it, even if he might not like it. Then what happens if he finds something bigger or more destructive to the server. I for one know what he's not doing. Telling his Teammate.

Also running around collecting teammates, I know that he isn't the only one that is doing this, but this is mainly about Atlas soooo I'm focusing on that here. Like you have a team, it's your fault he's locked away editing. Literally. Stick with your teammate, be loyal to someone. Like I know technically Devotions are on a separate team by themselves but that was a last resort(ish).

The list of people that Derap considers either allies or teammates; Zam, Jaron?????, Wemmbu, Pangi, theres someone else I think too idk man.

Also trying to listen in on Zam and Mapic during their like Very personal conversation.... Holy fucking shit. Like what the fuck man. Leave your Teammate that you've been building a whole area with have a conversation with his guy in peace. Another thing Zam can't trust Derap about, having a conversation without eavesdropping (I know Rek and 4C do this this the whole Tunnel Rats thing but they aren't Zam's Teammate.)

Like me personally, in my opinion you cannot work this hard to be someone's teammate if you're just going to lie, hide things (also lying) and not trust them enough to have a conversation without leaving them alone. Like you shouldn't need to be caught spying to leave your teammate alone with the guy you Know he is devoted to despite everything.

On another note, Zam literally told Derap about the Bugbombs. The only thing of importance he doesn't tell Derap is his base, which literally only Mapic knows about 'cause he's a little stalker guy.