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Sooo since people are complaining about Chaggie/Vaggie being boring and stuff (though I don’t see much of people trying to give ideas to how this could be fixed-)

I’m gonna give a layout to make both Vaggie and the relationship more spicy.

So I think the best route to go about this is to have Vaggie still be a fallen Angel. But the thing about this is that Charlie doesn’t KNOW she’s a fallen Angel. As far as Charlie’s concerned, she met Vaggie a while ago while wandering the streets of hell trying to find someone to aid her in her “Happy Hotel” start up quest.

She meets Vaggie at some coffee shop and the two make quick friends. To Charlie, she just met Vaggie but to Vaggie, she had already met Charlie, some time ago during the last execution.

Vaggie, still as an Angel, did not like heaven. She thinks it’s full of hypocrisy and she’s not all that well treated there. But the two things had kept her from leaving heaven was the fear of hell her hatred of demons. (I’d imagine she probably hated Charlie a lot because she’s the daughter of hell) Until one execution where she was about to kill one demon but said demon was saved by Charlie. Hell, they could even have a face off. But in those moments, Vaggie’s worldview is challenged by Charlie’s unwavering want to protect her people.

The angels retreat and Vaggie is stuck with her battle between her and Charlie replaying over and over in her head. If the daughter of hell can have kindness….then maybe other demons can? This thought finally pushed Vaggie to leave heaven (or get kicked out. Idk how it works-)

She decided to transform into a moth demon with Charlie in mind (because cute moth to light allegory).

Flash forward to current times and Vaggie is the manager of the Happy/Hazbin hotel but, as we can see from what’s out already, the past has come to haunt her in the form of Adam. Throughout the show Adam will constantly tease and hint at Vaggie’s past and Vaggie will have to work hard to deny everything. After all, why would Charlie ever love someone who tried to kill her and her people?

Hell, Alastor could even get in on the tea after finally putting together the pieces. Have him constantly plant seeds of doubt within Charlie, saying something along the lines of “you’re love with Vaggie isn’t as strong as you think it is” and such. Have Charlie slowly start to doubt Vaggie on her love and loyalty to not only the hotel but to her. Have Vaggie dig herself deeper and deeper into a hole with every lie she tells Charlie.

And when the truth finally comes out, due to either Vaggie trying to protect Charlie from something and accidentally outing herself, Alastor or Adam, Charlie feels betrayed…but not because of anything Alastor would try to say to Charlie (spinning things so that it would look like Vaggie was a spy sent from heaven to ruin the hotel) but because Vaggie didn’t trust her enough to tell her about Vaggie’s past.

This angst can go one for maybe an episode or two. Through events Vaggie can talk to Lilith about stuff and Lilith can say something along the lines of “the people who truly care about you wouldn’t care about who you were then, but who you are now and you have to do that for yourself.” For you see, this story isn’t just about Charlie and Vaggie but it’s about Vaggie realizing how much she’s changed but also how much she needs to grow. She needs to learn how to forgive herself and stop letting her past as an Angel hinder what she has now.

And for Charlie (as much as this isn’t her fault) reflects (maybe with her dad) about Vaggie. Lucifer tells Charlie about how Lilith found out about him being a fallen Angel and how they made their relationship work and how fell apart. How he doesn’t want the same for her and Vaggie.

The two meet up…maybe at the coffee shop where they “first” met and they talk after a while. Vaggie goes on to apologize for lying to Charlie, the executions and explains the real reason she fell into hell. And her reasoning makes Charlie fall in love with her all over again. Vaggie chose hell over heaven for her, she chose to work with her to get her passion project up and running and stuck by her despite all of the backlash the idea gave them. Despite the backlash and consequences for being a traitor of heaven.

It makes Charlie appreciate Vaggie so much more than she did before. And she expresses this. Yes, she’s hurt that Vaggie wasn’t honest with her, but she understands why she wasn’t. Charlie tells Vaggie that she’d love her no matter what and she shouldn’t have to be afraid to tell her anything. She reflects that maybe she’s helped a little bit in that insecurity, being so wrapped up in the production of the hotel, constantly letting other people sway her mind and being a little neglecting towards her. Charlie apologizes as well and the two get back together, stronger than ever.

Is this perfect….nope. But I think it does the duo some justice while also utilizing other characters as well. Lemme know what you guys think.

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Usually I roll my eyes at “Chaggie needs development” comments becuase they usually come from an chaggie criticism or anti Chaggie way of thinking. But I’m okay (and agree) with this line of thinking because it treats Charlie and Vaggie’s flaws like they’re supposed to be there instead of writing fails like so many other people do.

I’ve been saying for a while (and I often feel like I’m talking to brick walls) that Vaggie’s co-dependency is intentional and that her arc will be about growing into her own person outside of of her relationship with Charlie and the fact that she was an exorcist angel. But Charlie’s co-dependency almost never gets brought up on both sides but it’s a very interesting take on Charlie’s character. And it also balances the co-dependency, saying that they both need growing (it gives grace to Vaggie since a lot thinks she’s the only one in the relationship that needs growth.)

Tbh one of my favorite things about Chaggie that I didn't actually realize until just now while rewatching Scrambled Eggs is that they have so much room to grow as a couple. They're portrayed as really healthy, but their relationship is codependent, to the point Vaggie doesn't see a point in her if she can't protect or help Charlie and Charlie doesn't know what to do with herself without Vaggie. In fact, Charlie's dependent on Vaggie to not be reckless, something made abundantly clear in Hello Rosie! because who knows what Alastor's going to do with that deal? But Charlie pushed Vaggie away because she felt like Vaggie broke her trust (which, to be fair, she did) and ignored what she had to say. It's not even that Vaggie is Charlie's impulse control, because she's not. Charlie just gets reckless when she doesn't have Vaggie pointing out things that could potentially go wrong, which Alastor took advantage of (hell, he used the fact that Vaggie is so protective of Charlie to his advantage).

Without Vaggie, Charlie gets reckless. If Vaggie's not protecting Charlie, she doesn't see a point to her existence. Currently, they need each other for their mental health to be stable, and I'd love to see them grow from that because depending on another person for mental stability is so unhealthy, no matter how healthy the rest of your relationship seems. All things considered, I actually think this is why their relationship is how it is right now; so that they can develop beyond being dependent on each other and grow to be independent. It adds a lot of room to explore Vaggie's response to falling and Charlie's responses to Lucifer and Lilith abandoning/neglecting her, and it's something I hope we get because I'd love to see how Vaggie's fall and Charlie's relationships with her parents changed their views on relationships (assuming Vaggie's changed obviously).

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It’s hilarious how people say Chaggie is so “forced” when Alastor literally and figuratively forced his way into Charlie’s life and her hotel-

At any rate I hope episode 7 gives some spice to Charlie/Vaggie’s relationship since people won’t shut up about it STILL being bland/boring.

(I honestly don’t know what people want from them at this point. Like I get Episodes 1-3 felt more of her being a bodyguard than a girlfriend but something has GOT to give.)

We’re about to get REAL angsty up in this bish and I’m ready for it! I’m praying for a duet between them at some point since that’s where most of the chemistry/tension lies in this show.