#shoji hachi

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Nana ‘Hachi’ Komatsu 🍓🍰💖

[xavierocean]

rewatching Nana

[kaethefangirl]

This bitch junko is the WORST friend I've ever seen. If shes supposed to be Hachi's friend why is she constantly calling her a pain in the ass behind her back and treating her and talking about her like she's a fucking toddler???

And Shoji sat and entertained Sachiko and Junko KNEW but chose not to say anything to Hachi????? I HATE JUNKO. I LOVED HER IN THE EARLIER EPISODES BUT THIS SHIT JUST BLEW ME.

And she sat and lectured Hachi the morning after her break up. And tried to tell her to think about "how Shoji must be feeling" Junko made me wanna pull an Adam and beat her with a skateboard.

How can you call yourself someone's friend if you are CONSTANTLY talking down on them and dont care about ANYTHING going on in her life. Junko is terrible. She said she felt stuck in the middle because shes friends with both Hachi and Shoji??? Being friends with both of them doesnt cancel out the fact that Shoji was WRONG. He chose to break Hachis heart in front of people instead of letting her down gently. He knew Sachiko liked him and stuck with her. He lied to Hachi so he could hang out with Sachiko. SHOJI WAS WRONG!!

And then Junko and Kyosuke hung out with him the very next day?? Kyosuke is understandable, but Junko???? Unforgivable.

[lilicsakura]

Just started Nana! I def relate to redhead Nana; her sweetness, innocence and flirty nature lol

Her faces are also great!

[paeonie-s]

“if nana was a guy, she’d be the love of my life”

[mokkemusic]

So I’ve been watching Nana and yea ok I did watch it the first time up to a point. But if I’m honest with myself I did it for the wrong reasons. I watched it cause all the stuff was coming out. And everyone was saying how great it was and I saw it everywhere even if it was something that was making me emotional I wasn’t fully processing it the first time.

I just got up to again where Shoji was cheating on here and then the first Blast concert and the car ride with Junko and Kyosuke and then Nana agreeing to go with Hachi to the Trapnest concert and ok this time everything is really hitting me.

I think Nana for me is also a timing thing there’s a lot I didn’t want to understand. Little things. (I’m very detail oriented.) But sometimes those little things are really stirring and it’s things I don’t want to think about. There’s probably some things in here now I don’t want to think about seeing as I’m still back to being so early in the series but I really do love the characters and am ready to truly experience their stories. Whereas the first time I wasn’t there was this fog.. that didn’t leave me completely feeling like I could express myself and my thoughts. I think not having to talk about it this time on Twt except little moments helps too. I just feel like everyone has this clear cut way how they look at things and I well most of the time have this flawed logic so I was kinda holding back a lot but just being able to binge has really immersed me

That being said I’m so f angry at her friends most of the time

Look I’m sorry but I am so sick of everyone ragging on Hachi all the time I’m so sick of it. Like she’s too much she’s a burden.. she’s someone they always have to check on and make it sound when they speak about it like it’s draining. That her personality is draining HELLO she’s your friend! She’s your friend! You’re treating her like a chore and I know you don’t mean to because you do care about her but you are! And I admit everyone is flawed and they really don’t mean to they really do love her but then for once give her some credit put yourself in her shoes JEEEZ!

Hachi moving to Tokyo. “Well why? You have no plan you don’t know what you’re doing with your life. You just don’t want to be by yourself so you just think you’ll make it up as you go?? I get the concern for her future and it’s a big decision but she was gonna try to make it. She was. She was gonna get a job she was gonna try really hard and the fact that all of you were in Tokyo while she was there do you know how lonely she must have been? You can be concerned without constant criticism. Then she’s like ok I’ll have a roommate and will split the rent! Again it’s ok to be concerned about her (I’m not gonna say that every time cause no one is reading this but me and if you are these are my thoughts ok) but she can’t do anything right in your eyes can she? Aren’t you proud of your friend taking a step forward? You can’t have it both ways and then be like well no one ever told you that we thought you would just depend on shoji if you lived with him (cause he’s supposed to be her bf and you know support her or maybe just maybe have just a little patience that she just got to Tokyo and everting is really new for her rn) no you have to make her feel bad about being appreciative and cooking you dinner and cleaning your place and making her feel like your disappointed in her. So she goes and gets an apt and I get your concerned she’s moving in with a girl she barely knows (I don’t know how roommate situations work) but all any of her friends could say to her is “oh yup there goes nana always making these decisions like a child of what am I gonna do with you” instead of wow it’s really great your trying especially cause we didn’t make it subtle we were afraid you weren’t gonna make it on your own. Can you be concerned but at the same time be good friends?? Can you. Can you say you’re proud of her. She gets a job so that she can support herself and save up money cause she does have a problem with spending and just trying to live in the moment and then your all like well of course Shoji was feeling like you weren’t making time for him. When has Shoji ever shown he actually supported her selflessly when ? Cause it wasn’t in the anime I’ve been watching

Is Nana (Hachi) no she’s got a lot of flaws. And if you feel like characters shouldn’t have those kinda flaws. But I haven’t brought that up yet cause that’s not what my rant is about and I will I definitely will. Nanas flaws remind me of myself in someways. So it hits home. And trust me I know I have a lot of flaws they could fill 100 books for sure. But she’s trying! And idk maybe I just get too empathetic about these characters but it really bugs me it does

This is all just a tangent i didn’t really get into a lot of my thoughts but the one person who I felt treated Hachi as an equal (aside from the nickname that she was a puppy like the dog Hachi) was Nana. Because aside from ribbing her which is definitely ok with friends you can’t have a comfortable relationship if you can’t rib each other but she also was appreciative of her friendship (and I’m only what on episode 12) she’s expressed she was proud of her too there was balance. There is balance. Also me talking about this and wanting to see her 2 friends show that in the same way Nana does except for shoji like I do not care you are scum. (But I did kinda see a spoiler where Hachi and Shoji do meet again so for your sake I hope you’ve grown up a little and can admit you really didn’t know what you had and were greatfull for the relationship you did have at that time but idk will see)

Also again just my thoughts I’m on episode 12 but the way Hachi’s friends treat her sometimes… it gets to me it does.

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Little Hands

Tiny hands, his only weakness

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Me starting to realize some elements of Enya’s personality is a mix of Hachi from Nana and Momo from Peach girl 😭

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Junko: How patriarchy, time, and perception influence ( female ) friendships:

Junko is without a doubt a rather polarising figure within the Nana fandom. While some are inclined to view her as the epitome of a terrible friend, others find that there are aspects of her character that are not completely unreasonable. Some even argue that she is fully justified in her actions, interpreting them as a weary response to Nana Komatsu (Hachi’s) dependent and at times childish behaviour. 

I personally find her to be an extremely intriguing case study on female friendships - it is rare to find a depiction of female friendships that deviates from the endlessly supportive, forgiving, and nurturing portrayals of female relationships. Often times women are not as forgiving and sweet to each other as is often idealised in popular media, with dynamics often being fraught with internalised misogyny, societal perceptions, past experiences, and unhealthy attachment - so it is refreshing to see such a realistic, unorthodox, and complex portrayal of relationships dynamics between women—an topic that is often underrepresented and undervalued, yet crucial in order for people of any age to reflect on their own friendships and the factors that shape their beliefs and behaviours within them.

Firstly, I think that there is no point in disputing that Junko, in her own, often unconventional way, cares about Hachi. Throughout the early episodes and chapters of Nana, Junko frequently steps in to protect and comfort Hachi when she thinks the situation calls for it. This can be seen when she immediately leaps into action when Hachi breaks down in tears, drunk and distraught over memories of Asano in Episode 2, calming her down. This concern is seen again when Junko berates Shoji for hurting Hachi’s feelings and leaving Hachi alone in an unfamiliar place before rushing out to go find her. When Junko learns that Hachi plans to move in with Nana Osaki, who was practically a stranger at the time, she tries to convince (scare) Hachi into reconsidering the decision, concerned with how Hachi would manage and what kind of person Nana would turn out to be. Accepting defeat when Hachi stayed steadfast in her decision, she challenged (Hachi’s words) Yasu, trying to support Hachi by passive aggressively asserting Hachi’s right to the apartment when Hachi failed to do so to her standards.

Infantilisation and stifling growth

However, Junko’s protectiveness often crosses the line into infantilisation, an action which is a mixture of both care for Hachi and an unconscious subscription to societal perceptions of ‘femininity’, which ends up doing more harm than good.

Ai Yazawa makes a point of emphasising that Junko has known Hachi for a long time - she is familiar with her romantic struggles and emotionally dependent tendencies. But Yazawa also shows us from the start as well that Junko is immalleable. She is a character that does not bend to displays of emotion or whims - a foil to Hachi’s very passionate and dreamy personality. It becomes apparent from their interactions that Junko, after having been around Hachi a long time, internalised how Hachi behaves and acts to the point where she sees these traits as innate to Hachi as opposed to behaviours that have developed and formed over time. This strongly held perception of Hachi becomes a problem, as instead of encouraging growth ( which is what every healthy friendship accepts and promotes), Junko reinforces these observed traits, often treating Hachi as if she were a younger sibling or even a child. She seems “relieved” when someone else is there to “take care” of Hachi and even makes decisions on her behalf, such as revealing Hachi’s crush on Shoji despite Hachi making a conscious decision to not be romantically involved in anyone, assuming that Hachi does not have the scope to actually achieve the emotional goals she sets for herself.  

This dynamic consequently stifles and hinders Hachi’s ability to grow as an independent person throughout the anime, as Junko continues to see her through the lens of their shared past rather than as a peer. Even when Junko chastises Hachi for her lack of independence, she paradoxically expresses relief when someone else can ‘step in’ to care for her. This cycle of infantilisation keeps Hachi trapped in a dependent role within her friendships, and Junko’s inability to adjust her perception only reinforces these traits in Hachi. How people around you perceive and treat you influence how you subconsciously view yourself, and in Hachi’s case, she would see herself through Junko’s eyes as exasperating and hopelessly dependent. While Junko could very well believe her treatment stems from a deep and intimate understanding of Hachi, she in fact implies, most likely unintentionally, that Hachi is not capable of better. Junko's habit of infantilising Hachi repeatedly yet chastising her for the very thing Junko validates puts her in an endless pattern of being enabled, but not giving the genuine support when she does attempt to break the cycle. 

Internalised misogyny and and complicity to the status quo

At the root of Junko’s behaviour there is a subtle form of internalised misogyny that permeates throughout her interactions with Hachi. Hachi’s personality is characterised by dreaminess, emotionality, and dependence, and aligns with traditionally "feminine" traits that patriarchal societies often devalue. She is romantic, frivolous and dependent, and Junko, in contrast, is portrayed to be and see herself as more pragmatic and career-oriented, which she is shown to be aware of and even proud of in the anime and manga. She firmly corrects Hachi when Hachi hopes she will give up on her dreams of art school in Tokyo, and pursues her passions and career with dedication throughout the anime. Her more modern lifestyle ( living unmarried with her boyfriend and striving for her dream career) contrast heavily with her more conservative mindset with gender - through interactions between Hachi and Junko, we can see that she seems to have adopted a more ‘masculine’ role between the two of them, acting as the voice of reason and logic, traits which are stereotypically associated with masculinity ( haha). You can see that this patriarchal compartmentalisation of personality traits is something that Junko had internalised growing up through her interactions with Hachi, perceiving Hachi as hopeless and in need due to her personality, when in actuality we find out later that Hachi is perfectly capable of making decisions herself, and managing difficulty by herself (with more resilience that others can muster). While she surely does not always make the best options, she is able to adapt and persevere - not exactly the actions of a hopelessly dependent person.

This is a greatly nuanced decision on Yazawa’s front, as she perfectly depicts how growing up in a patriarchal society does not only influence male and female relations, but all - due to Junko growing up in a patriarchal society where women with ‘feminine’ traits are simultaneously taken care of and condescended, she too mimics and appropriates such beliefs and actions. The status quo in such societies ( like Japan in the time the manga is set)  are rigidly upheld yet at the same time result in the mocking and contempt of women who adhere to or fit the mould shaped and maintained by the same people who patronise them - and often times women are complicit in upholding harmful patriarchal ideals.  I think this is a refreshing (and depressingly realistic) depiction of relationships between women, as it perfectly captures the delicate and painful cognitive dissonance between caring for someone and not doing what is in their best interest due to internalised misogyny. 

A large aspect of internalised misogyny is putting male approval and attention on a pedestal, and Junko depicts such influences as well when she compares her love life to Hachi’s. She flaunts her alleged ability to form platonic male friendships without becoming romantically involved, ironically right before quickly entering into a relationship with Kyosuke. Junko then feels the need to justify her own quick decision of sleeping with and getting with Kyosuke to Hachi, showing a unconscious adherence to the notion that as a woman, getting with or attached to a relatively unknown man simply because of a desire to is a disdainful trait, and one that Junko makes a conscious effort to differentiate herself from - and not for Hachi. Hachi did not judge or even understand why Junko made such a fuss explaining; Junko’s attempts were more a form of self reassurance that she is not like the ‘others’ who are deemed undesirable and whorish ( a belief she holds due to her close interaction with patriarchy growing up). Junko is in fact not so different from Hachi, from what we can see from her actions in the anime and manga. We are told by her she does not attach herself romantically to men quickly, yet in the first instance possible we see otherwise. We see her look down on Hachi’s air-headed desire for a stereotypical, domestic relationship with a reliable man, while staying with Kyosuke throughout all the anime and manga, using him as a mode of support and guidance as well as a romantic and seemingly life partner. Her contempt of Hachi at times seems to be a reflection of her own insecurities with the aspects of her personality that do not fit the mould she wants - the aspects of her personality she was raised to see as less valuable and worthy and therefore grew up and internalised.

Junko’s internalised misogyny is also apparent in her loyalty to the men in her life, particularly in her defence of Shoji after he cheats on Hachi. Instead of holding Shoji accountable, Junko places the blame on Hachi, telling her that it was her fault for being too dependent, too self absorbed - too absent ( the very traits she was telling Hachi to adopt). This reaction reflects Junko’s struggle to justify her friendship with Shoji through her own internalised belief that women are responsible for men’s behaviour ( a common belief in patriarchal societies to take accountability away from men, instead vindicating and blaming the women involved). This scene serves to reveal Junko’s desire to preserve her own relationships and avoid conflict with male peers - by justifying Shoji’s actions, she maintains the comfort and security of her social circle, which includes her boyfriend Kyosuke, who is also Shoji’s best friend ( again rather similar to Hachi and her want of companionship) - she puts her male centred relationships on a pedestal at the expense of her female friendships and Hachi’s wellbeing.

Junko’s character serves as a window into the nuanced ways internalised misogyny, perception, and shared history can influence female friendships. Her dynamic with Hachi is shaped by her rigid perception of Hachi’s weaknesses and her own internalised biases about what traits are "acceptable" in women. While Junko is portrayed as a capable, independent woman—someone Hachi and other women can in some ways even looks up to—her patronising attitude ultimately undermines the potential of their relationship. Junko’s failure to see Hachi as an evolving, autonomous person perpetuates a cycle of dependence, preventing both women from growing as individuals and as friends, with Junko feeling equally responsible and burdened by Hachi but not allowing the relationship to develop beyond how it was in the past.

By portraying Junko, one of Hachi’s closest friends, as such a complex, multidimensional character, Ai Yazawa offers a compelling critique of the ways in which societal norms and internalised beliefs can distort relationships between women, and bring attention to topic that is often neglected yet experienced and lived by women universally. Junko’s story illustrates that it is not only overt sexism that influences women’s lives but also the more subtle, internalised forms of misogyny that shape how women perceive themselves and each other, and the pitfalls of relationships that remain stagnant in the past instead of allowing both parties to grow and flourish. 

[sfaghetti]

Hachi's comphet is the most explicit case of comphet I've seen in any media so it flabbergasts me that people call her bi or straight ... having boyfriends just for the sake of it and not bc of actually wanting them, dating Takumi just to get rid of her fantasies of Nana and also get closer to her, having to pick what man she got a crush on, when going on her first date with Nobu the best qualities she could point out where his hands being like Nana's, asking about Nana right after sex, talking about Nana with Shoji in bed instead of focusing on him to the point that even he thought she was in love with Nana, etc.

the only crush she ever got which she didn't force to happen was Nana

[emilianatsuki]

The hatred for Hachi is absurd.

I can honestly understand struggling to like someone like her however the way a lot of the fandom blames Hachi for what others have done onto her is ridiculous. She didn't choose to be groomed by Asano when she was a teenager and have her pov on romance be messed up. She didn't choose for Shoji to care more about sex than her to point of cheating on her because she didn't just want to be his sexual partner only. She didn't choose to become pregnant initially and her keeping the baby is also understandable due to the way she was brought up and the desire for a family, she didn't really have anyone else to tell her otherwise or ask what she really wanted until she met Nana and it was already too late, too quickly.

Hachi isn't a perfect person, but neither are the rest of the cast, I don't see the same criticism over characters like Ren or Nobu to the same extent Hachi is hated on. I'm a similar person to Hachi so i admitably do take it personally but I'm working on myself and the same goes for Hachi. She hadn't really been raised to be aware of herself or a lot of common sense in life her family don't really pay much attention to her and automatically fault her for anything that happens to her. They even warm upto Takumi instantly and take his word over anything she has to say. A lot of her issues are due to feeling unwanted and abandoned by the people in her life, even with Nana (despite the miscommunication here it also makes sense with how she is). She definitely messes up A LOT but she's not a bad person and a lot of the situations she gets stuck in aren't really something she feels like she's even worth being saved from.

[aleapintoreverie]

so, i have decided to start a new series of posts where i will try to figure out the plot and climax of the anime series that i am currently watching based on its first few episodes.

currently i am watching nana (2006) and these are some of the plot lines in my mind

assumptions—

based on the art style, the show feels v ominous (loving the lighthearted scenes as well but i feel like in the long term sth really disturbing is gonna happen)

some character is prolly gonna die (i strongly feel it might be punk rock nana lol)

shoji mighhhhtttt cheat on hachi nana

feels like a sexual awakening is around the corner for both the protagonists

that’s all so far, i’ll edit the post if i have more in mind.

to all the ppl who have watched the show pls try not to give me spoilers for the love of anime. the only intention of this post is to improve my plot foreseeing abilities, and for you all, idk how this will help you, maybe you can get some plot ideas for screenwriting or fanfics.

hope you atleast had a chuckle UwU

[skrunksthatwunk]

unfortunately this means i have to watch shoji on his niceguy bullshit. fortunately it means i have an excuse to articulate everything about him i find lame and also the other stuff that isn't that that adds flavor to the rest of it all. like a shit sandwich. bread's ok. shit? not so much

also im going back through NANA bc i was obsessed with it in the spring but i never got to finish it and im writing EXHAUSTIVE character notes bc 1) characterization and character drama is really where NANA shines and 2) i NEED to make content for it you guys don't understand. im so ill about them you don't even know and no one else is making content for it (or it's all ren???? or ren and nana???? guys it's about nana and hachi being gay ok what're you on about). that ends NOW

[weirdcat1213]

remembered how much i fucking hate shoji and again, i will never be able to hate hachi

she has flaws but she only wanted to be loved damn it, she wanted someone to want her with the same energy, love and passion

and nana fucking does that. she actually cares and appreciates hachi and soooo many moments are and will float in my head forever but the last pages specially

idk like its really a parallel hachi at shoji's place doing what she can to be "useful" and a good partner ONLY TO BE YELLED AT BU SHOJI

WHILE WITH NANA, her work is appreciated. close to the end of the manga she cooks, cleans and spends time with nana while she recuperates and even in that fucking state hachi *knows* shes appreciated because their relationship is so strong and loving

FUCK EVEN WHEN THEY MOVED TOGETHER HACHI NEVER FELT LIKE THAT WHILE LIVING WITH NANA. I COULD YELL ABOUT THIS ALL DAY-

[thenastyotherblog]

I want to draw more of Shoji and lil Hachi 🥺

For the time being, have a lil sketch