#ship: tinarose

[mcytblrconfessions]

Asks have been boring lately. people need to go outside and do something mcyt adjacent and outlandish and then report back 🥱 Like let's get a little exciting. Anyway to be forreal this is boring but i did tag TINAROSE (hannahrose and tinakitten ship name) under a bridge yesterday. may their lesbian love live 4ever. speaking of lesbian love let's hear a shout-out to to whoever's putting demon girls all around my city idk who's tag it is but it's so cutes mwah mwah... no pics of anything thats never a good idea with grafitti. you just had to be there 😘

[apollos-boyfriend]

one of the funniest differences between the twitter and tumblr fanbase to me is that twitter is ADAMANT that hide duo/hideduo is fit and pac’s ship name, meanwhile i do not think i’ve seen anyone on here use anything but fitpac

[jaimeski]

I seen Venus, Venus coming / She come down in a cloud machine / And I believe, I believe that she is / The only woman I ever seen

[tacom-literatureu-blog]

@mcyt-yuri-week Day 3: Hurt/Comfort - Patton

The bar around them was erupt with sound. Crying, orders for more drink to forget the carnage they had seen, those slumped in the corner praying.

Hannah figured she should count herself lucky she and Tina had been so close to the server portal when the explosions went off.

She pulled the shock blanket tighter around herself, the taste of ale and smoke fresh on her tongue. Out of the corner of her eye, she watched as with trembling hands, Tina took another sip of wine, wrapped in the sweater Hannah had worn on their date.

At first, Hannah had thought the ash was snow. That’s why she had taken off her wool knit sweater, a gift from Sam, and put it over Tina, making her laugh and blush.

Then the earth rumbled.

And then the sky lit up like a fireworks show.

Both of them ducked to the ground, and the building around them shook, beginning to splinter and break. As Hannah shielded Tina from the debris, a slab of stone smacked against her head, making it bleed. Another split in two on Tina's tail, snapping the bone and causing her to yowl.

When Hannah managed to stand up, her vision blurry, she grabbed Tina by the hand dragged her to the Server Portal, falling onto the Skyblock Hub in a heap, without any of their belongings. No pictures, no mementos, no word if their friends were alive or dead.

Just each other.

Tina raised her hand to order another drink, tears glossing over her eyes, threatening to spill. The barkeep was about to decline her, but sighed and relented when the weeping started. He topped off her glass, then moved onto the next customer, who was covered in ash.

"Hey..." Hannah said, her voice a whisper against the crowd. "Maybe you've had enough."

"Where-" Tina's voice cracked as her hand gripped the glass. "Where are we gonna go?"

Hannah didn't have an answer for that. She just looked away as Tina downed her glass in one shot.

She reached her hand up,wiping blood from her lower lip. "What if we're the only ones left?" Tina asked, her words hollow. "What if no one...oh gods above. Foolish. And Karl. And-"

Tina lowered her head into her arms and continued to cry, dampening the soot stained sweater, which now looked more gray than pink.

Hannah reached her hand out, and kept it on the small of Tina's back, rubbing the slightly burnt skin.

She never was too good at comfort.

[raan-miir-tah]

TINAROSE + JUDAS & THE DEMON

Exhausted, Andre Kohn//X//Caitlyn Siehl//Rumi, "Bitterweet"//X//X//Pablo Neruda

[10piecechickenmcnugget]

@indigo-flightly-falls more gay cats for you

[copepods]

did the dsmp ship tierlist by @conarcoin ^_^

[honknam]

"i could give you anything, perhaps..you want me..?"

[crimeboys]

it's really funny like. the only dsmp ships i genuinely care about are tntduo, beeduo, fiances, puffychu, and tinarose, and i don't think i've written literally any of them happy. like three of them i write divorced half the time and the other two well i just love a tragic romance.

[the-final-sif]

Hi Sif! I saw you addition to my post and I wanted to follow up and say that I did a more complete analysis looking at every character on the Dream SMP. I definitely didn't think my original post was going to spread as far as it did, since it was me just gushing my surface level thoughts. Part of the reason I followed up with a more thorough look was that I didn't want to let misinformation spread without actually looking at the full data.

I agree with some of your points but I would like to push a little and say that I do think that there is still a gender bias. While Hannah's situation might be more related to her later addition to the server and lack of prominent romantic relationships (beyond Tinarose, which still counts as a rarepair by numbers), the numbers for Niki are a significant outlier considering her early presence and involvement in numerous character/story arcs, especially compared to some characters that fared better than her.

I obviously can't control for every variable and every reason the numbers may show what they do. And there are many, many reasons people can and should use tags the way they do. But I think it is not too far-fetched to say that the Dream SMP fandom does have a problem with overusing tags that don't actually portray what happens in their fic AND with under-valuing characters with marginalized identities, which are partially reflected in the way relationship tags and character tags work together as they do today.

Here's the thing, I actually don't think that Niki's story count is weird at all, I think you may just be underestimating how popular certain pairings/platonic relationships are.

Let's take a comparison that I think is more than fair, c!Punz. Punz has a pretty comparable if not larger impact on the story than c!Niki. particularly towards the finales he plays different roles in them. But outside of c!Dream he doesn't have a lot of other major relationships that are popular in fanon, outside of him and c!Purpled. Despite this, c!Punz is often important to the plot, and he joined a full month before Niki did. Hell, he joined before Tubbo and just after Tommy.

But look at his top 10,

He does have 2/10 of his top relationships, but it's platonic/romantic drunz, so just different flavors of the same relationship. Outside of that, you see all the same super popular ships that you saw on ever other characters. It's just what happens in fandom.

As it turns out, some dynamics are just incredibly popular. DNF alone has nearly 25k fics written just for it. So honestly, with that many raw fics, it's hardly surprising that about 5% of them happen to feature Punz. Which ends up being more fics than the rest of his relationship category.

It's not that Punz is being incorrectly tagged in these fics, it's just that DNF is incredibly incredibly popular, and by virtue of that you end up here.

SBI similarly has about 21k fics, and Wilbur & Tommy have about 22k.

Niki's numbers aren't particularly weird, it's just that these particular dynamics are extremely popular. If you filter out just those three insanely popular dynamics, you get this,

Niki ends up in 4/10 (sorta 4/9 since one of these is just "no romantic relationships" which people use as a relationship tag for some reason rather than just putting that in additional tags).

I'm not saying that there aren't gender biases in how certain characters are treated. To some extent people often feel less comfortable shipping female creators because people in the past were being creeps about it and forcing it onto female creators in their chats (lots of creators had to address this with their chats, Techno included). Which will lead to a specific decline in the amount they get tagged in the ship section.

What I am saying is that I don't actually think there's a gender bias in how characters are tagged, and I don't think ship stats are a good way to prove that. Characters can be important to a story and not be tagged in the ship section. Also, frankly, a lot of times authors force in or tag a "popular" ship just to get more attention for their story, even if that ship isn't a huge part of the story.

I'm also not rely sure what exactly you want to see happen with a post like that. Like, should people not tag female characters that are relevant to their story if they're also tagging a really popular ship? I don't think that's a good idea. It is just kinda being the fandom police if that really is your take on it, if you come at it from the perspective that you get to decide how other people should tag. I know you said you weren't trying to be that, but like, that's how it comes off.

Some people will tag based on relevancy, some people tag as warnings. Both are valid methods of tagging, and you don't have a right to control how other people use their tags. That's something I believe very strongly in.

I've also never really been fond of turning enjoyment of characters into a moral thing either. People will enjoy what characters they connect to for any number of reasons, and shaming them for not enjoying particular female characters has never done anyone any good. I've seen it a thousand times before in every fandom I've been in and all it does is make people feel guilty. What actually does a lot more good is instead being excited about the female characters you like, and creating interesting fandom content for them that helps get other people interested.

If you want more people to be passionate about something, start from a point of passion, not a point of shame.

[tjodity]

all of the self indulgent imagining is fun but then i remember canon where at best we got confirmation that puffy and hannah were awkward and stunted around each other after the red banquet and i remember these characters exist only in vaccums.

It does kind of suck. It's a bummer that even canon wlw ships were pretty barebones, (tinarose being very cute but to my knowledge undeveloped, nikichu not being picked back up since before the red banquet)

Looking at it as a whole, the Dream SMP has a lot of interesting bits and pieces but rarely has good fully finished concepts. I just kind of take the scraps and run

[bagelrites]

Day 4 of @mcytfanfictionappreciationweek!

Rarepair Extravaganza: Read and comment on a fic with a character relationship tag (that’s central to the fic, no cheating with ensembles!) that has less than 500 tagged works.

I read in the ashes by luna_eclipse_writes (@milktearosethorn) because I wanted to read a f/f ship for this day, since like pretty much all of them have less than 500 tagged works. I'll admit I haven't read any tinarose before but this was such a good story, the angst was angsting and the end was so sweet <3

[hopalongfairywren]

Puffyrose. Nikirose. Tinarose. Alarm trio. Rosecrown (HannahxEret). This woman has so many ships

Yeah and she needs more love too!!

[raan-miir-tah]

Ignore Hannah’s salad fingers lookin ass hand the girlies are out on a pretty picnic! 🧺🌹🥕

[apollos-boyfriend]

literally tannah might be the worst MCRP ship name I’ve ever heard, especially in comparison to how nice tinarose sounds… like I still just can’t believe that That is what twitter went with, it sounds so baddd… 😭

NO GENUINELY i cannot put into words the absolute shock and horror that overtook me when i realized That was what they call it over there. why do they keep being allowed to name things

[ladyddanger]

Semi related I had a dream me and a bunch of my moots got cancled on Twitter.

There was a graphic with our names, pfp and the things we had done on it. Jo got canceled for shipping c!dreamity(???), being from Florida, being a socialist and having union in their name. Wren got canceled for being a bird furry, shipping tinarose and for writing c!Wren who was apparently problematic. Metaru had a lot but the only one I remember was being a c!dream apologist (??)

Mine was the shortest and it just said tnt duo shipper and then under that in all caps LYING BITCH.