#sherlock poor little meow meow

[consult-sherlockholmes]

Poor Little Meow Meow is a slang term popular among fandoms, particularly on Tumblr, to sarcastically describe fictional characters with antihero and oftentimes violent characteristics. The nickname "Little Meow Meow" was initially applied to K-pop idol SUGA of BTS before being adopted by other fandoms. [...]

In the summer of 2021, the term began seeing use in fandoms to describe sad, morally grey characters. This appears to have spawned from an April 26th, 2021 tweet by user @brokebackstan[6] that read, "addicted to shows with sad little men with deep-rooted psychological issues and pathetic eyes……if a show gives me a character i can refer to as “my poor little meow meow” i’m hooked for life." The tweet gained over 500 retweets and 3,000 likes (shown below). [...]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poor-little-meow-meow

I only understood 40% of the words you just used. And I think I should be glad about that.

So what they are trying to call me is 'a sad little man with deep-rooted psychological issues and pathetic eyes'? I am also not any of that. Except a man. But I am not little nor sad. Nor do I have any psychological issues, my mind is perfectly fine. And my eyes are not pathetic, they are astoundingly beautiful.

I might be morally grey, but I am for sure not any of the other characteristics.

[spiciestmarinara]

I was relistening to the first few episodes of Sherlock and Co.

John was going to leave after being kept awake all night and then being accosted by Obama’s security detail - Sherlock got together elements of a Ukrainian breakfast on the fly to try to…apologize? He said thinking of John’s IED made him peckish but his “Look, Doctor, you’re not looking” and “…from Ukraine” doesn’t read as someone who passively did this.

This is the same dude who refused to do his own grocery shopping later to the point that it was a Problem, but he was able to find/prepare food (I don’t think there’s premade deruny but I could be wrong) he seems to hope John would want.

I’m stuck on this as an autistic adult who tires really hard to be mindful of my friends even when my brain isn’t wired to do so easily. I find this quietly sad, even if in passing it’s easy to understand John’s side of the situation more readily.

[alistair-theirins-tits]

Kitty Winter aka the best Sherlock & Co character

[lifenconcepts]

this is me meeting Sherlock Holmes irl for the first time (canon event)

[that-angry-noldo]

DID THAT BASTARD JUST LEAVE WATSON ALONE IN THE RAIN why why why

[showingpitytowardsyourownkind]

Still at it!

Image ID 1: A text message bubble that says “I think I’m ready to give a blow john” on top of a screenshot of Sherlock and John in their living room. John’s in-game dialogue says “Pardon me?” as he looks very caught off guard.

Image ID 2: A Tumblr post by ladiesladiesladiesladies that says “im his right-hand arm man. I’m his everything. I’m his confidant, his best friend, his poor little meow meow” on top of an out of focus John looking up at Sherlock, who looks slimy and self-assured in the rain.

Image ID 3: A Tumblr post by lakevida that says “slept miserably because I was tormented by terrible visions all night [eyeroll emoji] hope none of it was prophetic” on top of Sherlock looking up as he romantically sinks into the ocean.

Image ID 4: A tweet by drivingmemadi that says “an escape room, but it’s just your thoughts. good luck” on top of a silhouetted Sherlock surrounded by the otherworldly rocks of the insanity puzzle realm.  

Image ID 5: A Tumblr post by buggbraiinz that says “kill them with kindness? WRONG! medical malpractice [spammed syringe emoji, blood emoji, x-ray emoji, and heart emoji]” on top of Dr. Gygax threatening a strapped-down Sherlock in disguise.

Image ID 6: An Onion BREAKING NEWS headline that says “[Game] Designer’s Judgment Clouded By Desire To Use New Photoshop Plug-In” on top of Sherlock’s terrifying psychedelic vision of the guy in the basement of the Black Edelweiss.

Image ID 7: A Tumblr post by exaltioras that says “I have one foot in the grave but in a kind of fun flirty way, the way one might slip on a fishnet stocking” on top of Sherlock looking weary in New Orleans.

Image ID 8: A textpost that says “Older siblings: my baby brother. The baby: a 25 year old” on top of Mycroft gesturing smugly.

Image ID 9: A Tumblr post by jame7t that says “I see you’re trapped in my gay and stupid maze again” on top of a birds’ eye view of Sherlock panicking in front of a door in the insanity puzzle realm.

Image ID 10: A Tumblr post by catboyhammerandsickle that says “they should invent a past that doesn’t beat inside me like a second heart” on top of a bedraggled and bloody Sherlock facing his fears on top of the lighthouse.

Image ID 11: A Tumblr post by eepy that says “hello gongeous. are u interested in committing a double suicide” on top of Rochester starting to monologue at Sherlock at the top of the lighthouse.

Image ID 12: A Tumblr post by nochillvids that says “dude you look forsaken as fuck right now” on top of Sherlock gazing at himself in a cracked mirror, subtly clueing the viewer in to his increasingly fractured mental state.

[bubblymochicat]

Do you like Sherlock adaptations? Do you like silly little guys and poor meow meows? Then boy oh boy do I have the shows for you

Introducing:

[unscharf-an-den-raendern]

Seitdem ich gestern gelernt hab, dass es Spatort, nicht Spätort heißt, hab ich fast alle Folgen inhaliert (es überkam mich wohl), tiefe Liebe für meine neue yearly Soap gelernt und jedes Mal laut gejubelt wenn ein Spaten vorkam. Der Spaten ist bae, Adam ist konstant poor little meow meow (und ab folge 2 auch nass, what is this about???) und sein Vater und der eine Lehrer haben so ein Hannibal-Will-Ding am Laufen, glaub ich. Ansonsten große Sherlock vibes (i'm sorry) (Als das Superwholock vom Ard schlage ich vor: Tatort Saarbrücken, der Tatortreiniger und der Szene-Report. Einfach weil ich alles mag und der fandom Name Tat-tat-ort-ort-report wäre.)

Szene-Report Folge über das Spatort-Fandom wann?

[i-dont-talk-for-days-on-end]

As much as Holmes likes clear facts, he isn't usually very good at being direct about any of his feelings. He hates sentimentality. Even if he wanted to, I don't think he could directly express his regards for Watson without the safety of irony.

I think I love the H-W friendship as much as anyone but tbh I do worry for some people's reading comprehension when I see them treating some of Holmes' comments to Watson -- like the famous "conductor of light" or "one fixed point" quotes -- as if they were fully sincere and touching compliments instead of rather backhanded ones.

[consult-sherlockholmes]

Well I am not fictional thus it can't be used for me.

[inevitably-johnlocked]

I want to talk about this scene from ASIB so bad!

Sherlock is staring at John's lips and 'new toothbrush' is written in a curved font. Like I can almost feel Sherlock wanting to brush his index finger along his bottom lip in the same way.

Seriously, this is so intense. And he does that not once but twice in that same sequence.

The pining. 🤌🤌🤌

Hey Lovely!

Always open to talk about scenes!

OMG, YEAH... the who deduction of John in ASiB is SO ridiculous, because, like... all it does is show EXACTLY how closely he observes John. AND it's also a bit silly because Sherlock would already KNOW John got a new toothbrush since they live together, and presumedly share a bathroom. But you're right, that deduction is STUPIDLY sensual, and reminds me of Sherlock rubbing his upper lip in TEH after finding out John has a moustache. Like this boy, this poor little meow meow, is obsessed with thinking about kissing John, LOL.

I love these two so much, LOL.

[drbtinglecannon]

Herlock Sholmes! And Barok

Oh boy my favorite loser addicts!

This got really long lmao so under the cut.

Herlock

I am admittedly a little anxious getting these two because typing this up I realized almost all my thoughts on them are extremely unpopular lol so I need everyone to prommy not to kill me 🙏

How I feel about this character

Ngl I hated his ass in 1-2 haha I was mourning Kazuma so bad, but he grew on me quickly like some kind of fungus. I was routinely laughing but cringing at the shit this guy did on screen. I do have qualms with how he handled the Iris situation (like. A Lot of them...he needlessly caused her so much more anguish by letting her think any parent of hers was still alive and by keeping her at arms length because he didn't think he was worthy to assume the role of dad even tho she imprinted on him like a duckling, not to mention the whole parentification she went through due to his issues) but I find him to be a fascinating flawed individual with a really fucking good design, I want his clothes so bad, also his theme is great. He lies but he wants to do what's right but he's manic but he's got a delicate ego but he's hilarious

Also round of applause to Herlock for giving us the Dance of Deduction, sure it dragged on at times but it was fun, extra applause for the dance around a bomb that one case

All the people I ship this character with romantically

Vanlock. I don't vibe with him x anyone else for a variety of reasons, none of them being "it's problematic" (short of like. Something actually illegal) so much as "I don't like that age gap" or "I don't like that ship because it makes one or both of them kinda scummy if they were fucking around" etc (like he knew Kazuma was alive, it would make him such a jackass if he was with Ryuu while Ryuu was grieving Kazuma y'know?)

He and Barok have bitter exes energy the few times they interact which is already hilarious but also post canon everything wrt Iris would result in a ridiculous co-parenting situation. I think there's a lot of interesting angst & healing potential between the little family dynamic there and I have written & read a lot on it, they're just really funny. It can be wholesome or toxic!

My non-romantic OTP for this character

I do think that maybe back in the day Herlock had unrequited feelings he never acted on that Yujin politely pretended not to notice

*prepares myself to get shot* hm/mk. I know they're the Sherlock Watson duo, but they are an iteration of it where I love their weird platonic friendship and not the romantic/sexual angle. They are inarguably important to each other and I think being platonic makes it more interesting the way they connected and kept in touch the entire time since they separated. Herlock brings out a levity & silliness in Yujin that's funny to see, and was almost certainly a major catalyst in Yujin healing from the loss of Ayame

My unpopular opinion about this character

I know some shippers think it's romantic that Herlock considered Yujin to be Iris's real dad but I think it was irresponsible and selfish of him to do that, considering Yujin did not seem to feel that way himself and poor Iris suffered for years from it. Like bro YOU'RE her dad! (He gets there eventually tho)

One thing I wish would happen/had happened in canon with this character

Ryuu should've punched him in the face when he realized his involvement in Kazuma's "death"

Barok

How I feel about this character

My poor little meow meow, the saddest wettest prosecutor. He's hot and his theme fucks really hard and he sucks so much but it's soooooo funny for the most part. It's interesting how difficult he is interpersonally to Ryuu & Susato (bc he's a racist bitch) while also being one of the most helpful prosecutors in the series from the gate. He's such a bitch about it the entire time tho but he really does indulge any stupid argument as he genuinely cares for justice (EXCEPT with Soseki he just wants to ruin that poor guy's life)

I get a bit defensive of being a bvz fan because like, yes he is racist, but also he's a British noble from 1899-1900ish he realistically would've been so much worse irl (almost every British char you interact with is racist 😔). I guess it's just like, this is the setting of the game, and it's completely understandable that's a deal breaker for people!!, but the fandom at large back in the height of when the duology localization came out was extremely aggressive against anyone even vaguely amicable to him. He's supposed to be a flawed yet sympathetic antagonist, he's the main prosecutor that's how the entire series has operated!! He also does show genuine remorse and dedication to change by the game's end, and I think it's important to let flawed characters get better because we need to let flawed people get better. He's realistic in an ugly way

All the people I ship this character with romantically

I do think the idea of Barok having a small crush on Ryuu post canon is funny tho, but I don't think he'd act on it. That's also the only vibe I get for gen//baro because there is absolutely no way Genshin would return such feelings when Klint is right there being a sluttier age appropriate option

Again just vanlock. I am very picky on ships, sorry to be boring haha.

To go a little more after my comments above, vanlock just drove me absolutely insane right after I finished the games, and some of my favorite fanfic I ever read was a series about their growing relationship post canon. I left comments so long I went over word count, which is as impressive as it is embarrassing! I also wrote a lot of fic for them, at one point I had the most posted by 1 author haha

My non-romantic OTP for this character

My unpopular opinion about this character

Barok & Ryuu, they have the funniest rapport. I actually didn't realize "learned friend" was lawyer slang when I originally played the games, I thought Barok was just being a cunt and Ryunosuke decided "fine I'll be cunt too, bitch" when he started saying it back. Bvz pal he just wants to be your friend but you're so mean and intimidating haha! The way Ryunosuke just approaches him in 2-3 and is like "Soooooo heard your brother got murdered" and then later that same day shows up at his office with Iris, calls Barok ugly and Klint hot in the same sentence, and the two of them just harass him until he finally runs out of things to say, god it was so fucking hilarious.

The only way that entire scene would've been better was if Barok's desk was smashed and poorly reassembled like in the concept art

I like him haha

One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon

I always wished he cared a bit about his sil, especially because his ass is not beating the incest allegations with how heartbroken he was about Klint & being British nobility in the 1800s 😭 it's difficult being a fan of this loser

I understand why Klint would be most important, but I prefer baskerzieks being genuinely in love and Lady B as another doting older sibling to Barok, so I wish he had acknowledged the tragic death of her too. I do wonder if part of why they kept her so far from any bit of the story is because Iris looks SO MUCH like her to the point it would make him look extremely foolish not putting 2&2 together when he first met Iris

Oh also Shu Takumi please. Please tell us how he got his facial scar. You told us how Enoch had white hair which isn't even that weird for aa why did you not tell us how a main character got a facial scar that he has an animation where he touches it? Please

[alverrann]

Kitty!Tubbs

No one asked for this, and possibly no one wanted it, but I've been writing a bunch of useless Miami Vice clips and this one is too cute not to share.

In this, I have turned Tubbs into a cat. This particular clip is from the middle of whatever conceivable story would be written around it, because writing middle clips is far easier than writing beginnings or endings, lol.

Anyway. It isn't my best work, but it's also a cat!fic, so I'm somewhat unapologetic. If you do happen to have any questions about this ridiculous AU I'd be happy to answer them, and in the meantime, enjoy!

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It didn’t take long for attention to be drawn when Sonny walked into the office, a fluffy and extraordinarily dirty cat following at his heels. Any distraction was better than the somber mood that had dominated the office since his partner's disappearance, though, and it was uncommon for an animal to get in. Most eyes went to Castillo’s office, but Zito spoke up with a smile, “You’ve decided to adopt?”

“Somethin’ like that.” Sonny wasn’t about to tell them that the cat was Tubbs. That would land him in even worse trouble than his partner, and neither of them could afford that.

“He’s adorable!” Gina stopped to crouch next to Tubbs, who looked as though he didn’t know what to do about her incoming hands. In the end he merely stayed there as she scratched his head. “But he needs a bath.” Then, to a panicked and extra fluffy Tubbs' surprise, Gina was picking him up, “I wonder how he and Elvis will get along.” Tubbs seemed to be frozen in panic, indecision in his eyes, and Sonny couldn’t help the laugh that escaped him.

“He doesn’t really like to be held, Gina.”

“Oh, but he’s hurt, poor thing!” She had twisted him a little and Crockett felt his blood run cold when he spotted the large gash on his partner’s underbelly. How had he missed that before? “He must have been in some kind of fight!”

“Gina, put 'im down before he scratches you.” Trudy was shaking her head, and Switek grinned,

“At least put him down before the Lieutenant sees him; Sonny brought 'im in, Sonny can deal with the consequences. 

Crockett might have laughed, but now he was just staring at his partner, determined to get a look at the gash. It had scabbed over, but it looked awful. And now that Gina mentioned it, Tubbs did look terrible. It had been almost a full half hour since he’d discovered and accepted that the stray cat from the crime scene was Tubbs, and now he was coming away from the shock of it enough to realize that his partner was not a healthy cat. “Here, quit manhandlin’ him.” He reached out and took Tubbs from her, pulling him back into his arms, where he knew he was safe.

“Have you decided on a name for him yet?” Gina asked, still concerned with Tubbs, whom Sonny gently deposited on his desk.

“Naw, not yet.” Crockett only had eyes for his partner, who immediately began nosing his way through the files that Crockett had left there earlier.

“Hey, he’s a regular detective, look at ‘im go!” Zito laughed, “You should call ‘im Sherlock!”

“Would that make Sonny 'Watson?'” Switek got in on the joke as well, but the mood was killed when Castillo's voice interrupted.

“Crockett.”

Everyone froze, looking over at the lieutenant. Castillo was standing at the entrance to his office, as severe-looking as ever, but his eyes were on the cat. Tubbs had frozen as well, crouching lower on Sonny’s desk over the files that he had been going through.

“Look, I can explain-” 

"My office. Now." Castillo walked back through his door, and Crockett realized that all eyes were on him. When he met their gazes they all looked away, leaving him feeling almost exposed. He turned around at a soft meow, and met Tubbs' eyes.

His partner may have been a cat, but when Tubbs looked meaningfully at Castillo's office, Sonny knew what he was asking. 

"Don't worry about it, pal. I'll think of something." He spoke softly, aware that he already looked crazy enough without talking to the cat. "Do you have what you need?" 

Tubbs looked down at the desk, his tail twitching, and then pawed at the top drawer. Sonny opened it and Tubbs nodded. 

"All right, hang tight. I'll be back." He turned towards Castillo's office just in time for everyone to focus on their work and pretend that they hadn't been listening. He didn't say anything, heading straight to Castillo as he frantically tried to come up with a reason for the cat that wasn't the truth.  

When he got into the office Sonny closed the door behind him, meeting Castillo's gaze as calmly as possible. The Lieutenant was standing in front of his desk, hands in his pockets, unblinking eyes pinning Sonny where he stood.

"What have you found?" 

Out of everything that the lieutenant might have said, Sonny hadn't expected that question at all. "What have I found?" 

"You've been working on this case non-stop since Tubbs disappeared; this is the first time I've seen you in the office during decent hours in three days." 

Sonny wasn't sure how he felt at the assessment, but he had a feeling that Tubbs would have laughed - or at least smiled. "That cat was at the crime scene, Marty." He began, not quite sure yet where he was going, but at least certain that Castillo was in a forgiving mood. 

"I remember. It got into the squad car." 

"Well it turned up at the boat this morning. By itself." Castillo's eyebrow twitched, and Sonny forged ahead. "I think-" He stopped himself before telling the truth. He couldn't, could he? He glanced out at Tubbs. Who had somehow managed to pull out one of the files, and was staring down at it intently. Many of the Vice team had stopped and were openly watching, and Sonny decided that the risk was worth it. If Castillo was on their side then things would be much easier. "Lieutenant, could I show you?" 

Castillo followed Sonny's gaze. "The cat?" 

"Yeah. The cat." Sonny waited until Castillo nodded to open the door, watching as Tubbs looked up from the file. His partner meowed, pawing the paper, and Sonny headed over quickly to look at it. 

Tubbs looked almost smug as Sonny's brow furrowed. "Lazard? That hokey sideshow?" A quiet hiss came from his partner and he gently took the file from under Tubbs' paws. "All right, okay, I'm sorry. I believe you." He sat on his desk for a moment, meeting his partner's eyes and lowering his voice to a murmur. "Listen, I think Castillo will believe us." 

Tubbs pulled back with a hiss, his ears folding back and Sonny shook his head. 

"Not your call, man. I'm the one doing the talking, but I'll need help." 

Tubbs' tail had begun to twitch, and Sonny held up his hands in surrender.

"Please?"

For a long moment Tubbs glared, then he hopped off of the desk, heading for Castillo’s office on his own. Sonny got up to follow, tucking the slightly chewed-on file under his arm.

At this point most of the other people in the office were staring openly. Sonny ignored them, closing the door behind himself when he reentered Castillo's office. Castillo was staring at Tubbs, who was sitting on the floor a few feet in front of him. He looked up at Sonny after a moment. "Tell me about the cat." 

Tubbs gave Sonny a meaningful look, and Sonny steeled himself for what he was about to do. If Castillo decided that he'd cracked then it was all over. He bent over and picked up Tubbs, who meowed with alarm as Sonny put him on Castillo's desk. He murmured an apology before turning back towards the lieutenant—who was clearly not a fan of having a cat on his desk—but seemed willing to hear the explanation.

"All right, I know this is gonna sound ridiculous, but I swear it's true." Sonny began, stopping when a small paw swatted his hand where he was leaning on the desk. Tubbs' expression was that of disapproval, and Sonny surmised that his partner disliked how he was explaining things. He forged ahead anyway, knowing that if he didn't say it right then then he never would. "This cat is Rico Tubbs." 

Silence descended on the room as Castillo stared, not even asking for clarification. Sonny didn't wait for more than a few seconds before he continued.

"Someone turned him into a cat; I don't know how, but I do know that he showed up at the Miamarina this morning, which means he walked all the way there from the crime scene." He held up his hands to stop anything Castillo might have said, "Now before you put me away just watch this." He turned to his partner, "Rico?" Tubbs nodded, and so he continued, feeling ridiculous. "Were you turned into a cat?" Another nod. "Who did it?" Sonny knew that the question was open ended, but hoped that his partner would know what to do. Tubbs gave a small meow, reaching to paw at the file under Sonny's arm. 

Sonny obliged him by putting the file down next to Rico, closed. Rico gave him a light glare, and then clumsily bit the edge of the top flap and pulled the file open, before resting his paw right on top of Lazard’s picture with a self-satisfied purr. Sonny looked over at Castillo, who appeared unmoved. The lieutenant took a step forward and Tubbs tapped Lazard’s photo again with another meow. 

“Lazard?” Castillo asked, and Tubbs nodded. Castillo kept his eyes on Tubbs for several seconds of silence, then he finally said. "Are you all right?" 

Tubbs made a dramatic show of looking down at himself, and then shrugged. Sonny had never seen a cat shrug before, and sort of hoped that he never had to again, but he wasn't about to let his partner get off with the lie. "He's got a pretty nasty cut, but it looks like its healin'." 

Castillo looked at Tubbs, who glared at Sonny. Then he said, "Has he eaten?" 

"I don't know." It was another thing that Sonny hadn't even considered.  "Have you eaten anything in the past three days, man?" 

Tubbs turned to the side to nod, almost like he was embarrassed or ashamed, and Crockett frowned. 

"Take the rest of the day off." Castillo said, and Sonny looked over in surprise. "Go eat and get cleaned up, and we'll work on finding Lazard."

Tubbs seemed annoyed, but while Sonny understood why, he really wanted to take a look at the gash and make sure that Tubbs was all right. 

"I'll expect you both in office tomorrow morning." Castillo walked around to sit at his desk, clearly dismissing them. "Call if anything else happens."

[moorishflower]

Oh there's another one of these @iprefertheterminsane tagged me to list 8 shows to get to know me

Heroes - This was the first fandom I was super active in! Heroes was smart, sleek, sexy, the characters were compelling and the concept was really cool, it launched Zachary Quinto's career, and if you pretend there was never more than one season it still holds up AMAZING.

Star Trek TOS - There's not a ton of shows where rampant optimism and hope are the core values of the program, but Star Trek is the OG for that, and that's why it still resonates so strongly with so many people. I remember watching this with my dad as a child.

The X-Files - In a similar vein, I remember watching this with my mom. When I was young I didn't know if I wanted to BE Dana Scully or if I wanted to date her (the answer actually WAS both). X-Files did monster of the week episodes RIGHT. Squeeze and Tooms are still some of the best motw eps from any show ever made. The mythos arcs almost always kept me on the edge of my seat, and when they made a character for you to hate, you HATED that character. No way to poor little meow meow the Cigarette Smoking Man.

Supernatural - Look. We were all there. or a lot of us were. In the trenches. SPN Started out SUPER super good. The Destiel years...immaculate. I watched intermittently after season 5, but I took it to heart when the writers said 5 was where it was meant to end. And they were right! It was a satisfying ending. It wasn't a HAPPY one. But it was satisfying.

Sense8 - This show had EVERYTHING. Multisexual polycule. Martial arts. Trans power. Psychic links. Empathy. Big orgy scene. It was SO good and so smart and that it was cancelled is STILL gut-wrenching.

NBC Hannibal - Heather can have a lil cannibalism as a treat

The Sandman - I mean, obviously my current obsession. I read a good amount of the comics when I was in high school and thought of them as appropriately dark and edgy and goth for me at the time, but the tv show really has brought it all slamming back home again, and I'm much more able to appreciate more nuanced themes like depression and personhood and grief now.

House MD - Combines several things I'm fascinated by: medical procedurals, Sherlock Holmes AUs, weird diseases, and Hugh Laurie. Shows like House are what I tend to gravitate back to when I want to watch something that I KNOW I don't need to think too hard about, but I want to see cool medical or forensic stuff. Bones and Criminal Minds also fill this itch, but House has a special place because, y'know, Hugh Laurie.

I am tired n nauseous so tag to ANYONE who sees this and wants to, I would love to know what you watch and if you'd recommend it <3

[theresa-of-liechtenstein]

honestly the first time i really began to critically question the idea of cabin pressure i had in my head (esp wrt the character of martin) was when i relistened to it late 2020-early 2021 over discord with one of my high school friends. he had been a fan of bbc sherlock in the past but got quite attached to the character of arthur throughout the listenthrough, we get through s1 and my friend gets really quiet and then he says sadly over the discord call ‘…martin’s really a dick, isn’t he’ and i was like lmao yea and then i thought about it for a while after we got off the call and really started to wonder why on earth attitudes toward martin were really… Like That when i was first getting into the show in 2016. like, if you were around then you know: he’s god’s most persecuted soldier, stronger than any us marine, he’s so victimized, poor little meow meow, cinnamon roll or whatever… i mean not to say that the fanon view of martin doesn’t persist to this day or to say that my current view of martin is The Correct One, namely that the deficits that martin is perceived to have are in his character more than in his circumstances, that his behavior does warrant a comeuppance at times, and that his autism and/or autistic traits doesn’t excuse him his early unkindness and is not disqualified by his growth and change throughout the show (also the attitude he should get a free pass from being an asshole because of his autism is…questionable at most and ableist at worst? like him being an asshole isn’t because he’s autistic. sometimes he is just being an asshole). and maybe that’s not the greatest take in the world but it has made my enjoyment of the show much deeper tbh