#she was definitely traumatized and mentally unstable

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

had to make this meme because these fandoms are too similar.

adora asked catra to go with her multiple times while vi was captured and imprisoned before she could go back to powder, and spent years in the prison blaming herself.

not to mention, no one ever addresses adora's and vi's trauma but woobifies and coddles catra and jinx instead. they act like adora/vi didn't care about their sisters even though catra/jinx are the ones who literally tries to murder them.

[bivht]

Astrology Observations

tw: ED

A lot of people in my life with chiron-saturn hard aspects have one parent emotionally (or physically) absent and the other emotionally manipulative. Also common is intergenerational trauma/childhood trauma. This individual has difficulties relying on people for support. It sucks bc it’s quite a common aspect. I’d estimate roughly 25% of my class has this

Chiron-saturn hard aspects also make me think of someone with a wounded sense of restriction and discipline. In extreme cases it can lead to mental health conditions like eating disorders I.e. Karen carpenter with Saturn square Chiron. Eugenia cooney with Saturn opposite Chiron. Tbh this is more of an assumption, both individuals have mars square Saturn which could also be a factor

mars square Saturn is where the ability to feel motivated, take action, and progress is restricted by Saturn. And the square aspect makes it sooo difficult to overcome, it’s locked in place like a safe. Their sense of discipline is also kinda f’ed up. Potential to be self-punishers.

pisces moon with hard aspects to pluto can have emotionally manipulative mother in which the child believes their mother is their best friend but it’s really just an unstable relationship with lack of any emotional boundaries :/

moon-pluto/moon-saturn hard aspects is having at least one traumatic event relating to their mother by age 16

Venus-Chiron/chiron in the 7h can have a fear of people leaving them for someone better

Melpomene (18) conjunct pluto is so frickin’ powerful when they delve into tragic art such as sad songs/dance/writing. Melpomene is the muse of tragedy. Even if it’s a really happy or cute person, they’ll catch you off guard with their suitability in tragic roles

This is obvious but fatme (866) can have weight struggles

pisces moon is asking your mum for privacy and she says “I’m your MOTHER, I’ve seen you naked since you were a baby!”

virgo mercury is the definition of “oh no… anyway”

[ongicloud]

I wanted to go on a bit of a ramble about Misa so like

I've been seeing this sentiment recently about people expressing frustration over people ignoring Misa's wrongdoings and painting her as an innocent angel who never did any wrong. And you are all correct to point out the fact that yes, she very much DID do things wrong. The sentiment that she is pure and innocent is very much factually incorrect. She DID stalk Light and coerce her into dating him. She killed people. I just wanted to throw in my two cents on her real quick.

BUT I also want to point out that I kind of see people's love for her as almost a rebellion against the early days of the fandom. As a shonen series, a lot of the content and discussions around it were being had by anime dudebros. To add on, we KNOW how bad Ohba is about writing women. How many sexist undertones there are in all of his work. He himself has admitted with no shame that he cannot write women. (Which as a professional author should make you feel shame tbh but I digress)

When I was first getting into the fandom, Misa was pretty widely disliked as a character. The people that did like her were very much sexualizing her. The sentiment was that she was a dumb blonde bimbo unworthy amongst the genius of Light and L. There was SO much bashing of her. That came from fans that weren't the typical dudebro as well. This was peak shaming girly "shallow" girls era. The not like other girls era. I think this definitely played a role in at least some fans, now that the fandom is more chill, latching onto her as she was definitely treated pretty badly and people wanted to avenge her. Or people wised up more and thought more critically about her as a character. I think over time, that protectiveness over her, along with the somewhat humorous nature of it, morphed into the "uwu she did nothing wrong" narrative.

Additionally, I kinda have some thoughts on her as a character. I am not excusing her bad actions, maybe moreso rambling about my understanding of them.

She witnessed her family being murdered. This is stated to have happened a year before the series starts, so she was like? 16? 17? Understandably a very traumatic experience. She had to see the killer being allowed to walk free, her word, her testimony, not mattering. The man who took everything from her was allowed to walk with no repercussion while she had to live with that trauma. When Kira (aka Light) killed that man, avenged her family, it is understandable that she would form this odd parasocial relationship with him. She was mentally unstable enough to start with, griefstruck and seeing Kira as the one who helped her gain some faith in the world again.

To add onto that, she was also stalked by an obsessed fan, who after being rejected, was going to kill her. She was only saved by the sacrifice of Gelus, thus gaining the death note herself.

I see her as not an innocent angel who did nothing wrong, but as a deeply damaged young woman who had no agency in the world before this. Being hurt by multiple men, living in Japanese society which we know isn't very supportive of women in general. She finally gained some power, a way to protect herself in this world. And she saw the person, who helped her at her darkest, unbeknownst to himself, as her saviour.

Yes, she was absolutely not in the right for starting to kill people, yes she was absolutely wrong for stalking Light and forcing him to date her. I just wanted to ramble about her a little bit and give my silly little thoughts on her. I love her as a character, I can see WHY she is why she is. And it is absolutely okay to dislike her for those things! It is absolutely okay to criticize her actions because they are not okay. And yes I also believe her character missed a lot of the depth some of the other characters had simply because she was written by a misogynistic author. When I say she deserves better, I mean that she deserved MUCH better writing. But also Light is NOT innocent in their relationship either. I hope we can all still agree on that.

[gebediahhhhhhh]

I’ve seen a lot of people analyzing Lydia’s behavior in BJBJ, not only on tumblr. And a lot of posts about Lydia’s anxiety being illogical miss one certain point: anxiety IS illogical. As someone who spent enough time treating my depression and anxiety issues (and also abusing my medicine at some point) I can totally get her behavior. Let me explain.

WARNING: I’m not an expert in anything I’m talking about, this is just for fun and based on my own experience with mental issues. Also I’m very sleepy and English is not my first language.

When people analyze Lydia’s behavior, they usually have 2 points:

1. Lydia is afraid of ghosts in general; she’s getting anxious because she can see dead people.

2. Lydia is afraid of Beetlejuice specifically.

While the first one is more logically understandable, I don’t think it’s the thing. To me it was obvious that she was afraid of BJ and her panic attacks happened only when she saw him. The second one, though, makes less sense considering the events of the second movie, when Lydia summons BJ and she’s just like… annoyed. She looks at him and goes ew. I didn’t see panic. Which could be just her being calm and collected in the face of danger, but I don’t believe Lyds is like that, sorry 😭

So that leaves us with her reactions being kinda… inconsistent. Yeah! So let me introduce you to my hot takes:

- Lydia is mentally unstable and has big anxiety issues which lead her to panic spiraling about certain topics.

- Lydia is NOT afraid of ghosts in general (at least consciously), but seeing them still messes her up.

- Lydia’s only human and her memory of the first movie events is not perfect.

Let’s talk about this.

In the first movie we clearly see Lydia being depressed and suicidal. Here everything’s clear, I think. Depression at a young age can mess your brain big time and I doubt she got it medicated until she was a whole ass adult.

In the same first movie Lydia obviously doesn’t feel distressed around ghosts (except for BJ, because he’s a weirdo). She willingly spends time with Maitlands and dances with football players and in general she’s okay with ghosts.

From the second movie we get that she can see any ghost because of her gift. I can only imagine how many ghosts she’s met during these 36 years. Probably even before her show started, she would always randomly see dead people in all kinds of places. Some guy killed himself in this building 50 years ago? Yep, Lydia can see him haunting the place. This ability surely doesn’t bring comfort to one’s life, especially after you grow out of your teenage years and talking to dead people is no more considered a quirky thing.

Now back to her fear of Beetlejuice. In the first movie, he terrorized the Deetzes, but didn’t do anything harmful to Lydia specifically. The whole wedding thing must’ve been pretty scary though, I don’t think many people acknowledge that. In her place I would absolutely be terrified. But at the end she seems fine and cheerful, which could be a sign that she isn’t traumatized but all this ghostly stuff that much. So what could’ve happened for her to react to BJ like this?

What I’m thinking is, human memory is not perfect. It tends to blur some things, especially uncomfortable ones. And depression is known for causing memory issues as well. I, personally, barely remember my teen years. And I’m definitely younger than Lydia and saw far less shit in my life. So I’m just thinking that, for the past 36 years, her memory of encountering Beetlejuice might’ve gotten more vague and kinda replaced with… Maitlands’ stories about him.

We don’t know when exactly did the Maitlands leave, but I assume Lydia did spend with them enough time. I already saw a very good in-depth post about Lydia’s fear of Beetlejuice being fueled by the Maitlands’ experience of him being a pervy freak and whatnot. Yes, I agree!!! They absolutely did tell Lydia about all their afterlife experiences, including their first time summoning Beetlejuice. So Lydia must’ve known about him being extremely fucking weird.

Now, imagine: you’re a woman with many mental issues. Your job includes regularly seeing dead people who might look really disturbing and behave in a potentially dangerous way. You have many relationships issues as well and now… You start seeing a freaky ghost from your teenage years. What do you remember about him? Oh, not much:

- he hurt your dad and scared your family (which might have been funny when you’re 16, you do start seeing things differently when you grow up).

- he was acting absolutely disgusting towards your friend.

- he tried to marry you.

I don’t blame Lydia for freaking out. And considering she has anxiety, I can totally imagine her brain going different directions with thoughts how Beetlejuice might hurt her specifically. Been there, done that. I believe her seeing him at the studio wasn’t the first time, and her reactions just kept escalating because she kept thinking about him being a supernatural entity who can murder her, rape her, hurt her daughter, hurt her parents, etc.

But then she summons him and he’s… normal. I mean, relatively normal. You know that feeling when you’re afraid to make this really scary phone call, but when you finally do, it turns out to be not that scary? I imagine that what Lydia experienced, just ten times more intense lmao.

[samd1o1]

Crowley's BPD Traits And Why They Are Important;

We all know our beloved ineffable husbands are neurodivergent icons. Despite not being human they both act like neurodivergent humans would (and do).

Today I thought we would take a look specifically at Crowley and his BPD traits and what they mean.

(Also before we start; a trigger warning for talks and mentions of suicide, depression, mood swings, drinking, and trauma).

First what is BPD? BPD stands for Borderline Personality Disorder.

"A mental disorder characterized by unstable moods, behavior, and relationships." -Mayo Clinic

BPD is a disorder caused by trauma. Trauma is of course different for every individual. So while some demons may seem perfectly content with the fall from Heaven, others may have been significantly traumatized. And I believe this is where Crowley falls (pun very intended).

So we covered how Crowley could have developed BPD, but let's talk about their traits.

The DSM-5 lists 9 Criteria for BPD, of which at least 5 are required for diagnosis. We will be covering each one and how (or how they don't) apply to Crowley.

1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment:

As we know BPD is caused by trauma, but more specifically it can be trauma that deals with abandonment. Say God casting you down to Hell for simply asking questions?

This can lead to the person with BPD going through frantic efforts to avoid abandonment happening ever again.

We can see this most in Crowley when she argues with Aziraphale. Can you count how many times Crowley tries to run away with Aziraphale so that he doesn't leave him during an argument? It's three. They have done this three times (and that's just the on screen ones, who knows whats happened in 6,000 years!).

2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

Now this one is harder to see in Crowley because this trait of BPD (and many others) comes out most in romantic partners. And Crowley has only ever had one apple in his eye, Aziraphale. But even just with their relationship with Aziraphale we can see this.

While Crowley never directs his anger at Aziraphale we can definitely see how much the angel affects him. Their arguments that can lead to them not talking for decades, Crowley literally exploding with lighting because of his anger.

An example I find most interesting is Crowley's entire perception of Aziraphale changing when he sees Aziraphale let the people in the flood die. And this perception is only fixed in the Job minisode when Aziraphale does the right thing again. All it takes is one incident for Crowley to change her mind.

3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

I think this is most obvious in the opening to season 2 where Crowley is questioning the meaning of life and more importantly his role as a demon.

But this isn't the only demon related identity disturbance Crowley faces. A common identity disturbance for those with BPD is believing that they are evil. This is caused by trauma but is also not helped by the stigma Cluster B disorders face.

Crowley believes he must be evil because he is a demon. He lies because he is a demon. Just like someone with BPD may believe they are evil for their disorder or are manipulative because of it. But in reality that may not be the whole truth. You can still be a good person despite being a demon, despite having a disorder.

4. Impulsivity in at least 2 areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating).

Do... Do I need to explain this one?

Crowley is an alcoholic. He casually drinks but will also drink anytime a slight inconvenience pops up.

Crowley is also known for going "too fast". He is almost always speeding in the Bentley.

5. Recurrent suicidal behaviour, gestures or threats, or self-mutilating behaviour.

This is one of the ones that is harder to apply to Crowley simply because she is a demon, not a human. It is much harder for him to kill himself. And while this trait must be recurrent I still think it's important to bring up the Holy Water incident.

Crowley tells Aziraphale the holy water is just for insurance, but Aziraphale knows Crowley better than that and was right to assume it could probably be for a suicide pill. (Even if it did come in handy as insurance later). But the fact Aziraphale assumes that I believe is telling.

6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

We see a few different times where Crowley's mood shifts into extremes.

We already discussed the lighting incident. I think another big show of their anger is how he treats his plants in season 1. While yes it is them recreating their trauma with God (Metatron?) and being thrown out of Heaven, that anger comes from somewhere.

Jim short for James, long for Gabriel also sparks this anger in Crowley to the point of threatening his life and telling him to jump out of a window.

Crowley's depression is seen on the biggest spotlight when talking about the fall. Their sentiments about not meaning to fall, that she only ever asked questions.

7. Chronic feelings of emptiness.

Unfortunately I can't speak on this one purely because I do not live in Crowley's head. I do not recall it ever being something mentioned or showed. That doesn't mean it can't happen to her of course, but let's stick with the facts.

8. Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).

As you can see BPD deals with anger a lot. so I will once again bring up some points we've already made. With the lighting incident, and good old Jimmy-boy.

I also just wanted to mention we know Crowley appears a bit angry at most times as well as Muriel describes him as "the grumpy one". Just thought it was a fun, helpful detail.

9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

This one is also a bit hard because again I am not in Crowley's head but also she does in fact have plenty to worry about that is real.

But Crowley does still show paranoid ideation. His distrust of others, disorganized thoughts (talking about ducks and the end of the world at the same time), feeling threatened, thinking he's being spied on (the ducks have ears).

Lots of ducks.

Now some may think diagnosing/headcanoning a character with specific mental illnesses is silly, and maybe it is! But I still believe it's important. Why?

Well for starters; representation is always important. Seeing someone similar to you on screen you can relate to and find joy and comfort in. Or maybe they're just raising awareness. Or just showing that hey, these people exist.

But I also wanted to touch on the stigma of BPD and other Cluster B disorders.

I touched on it briefly in an earlier point but BPD is heavily stigmatized. Many people treat the disorder as evil and manipulative. That the people with it don't deserve love or kindness. Which is of course simply not true.

Most of the characters coded with BPD today are antagonists and/or villains. Think Jinx from Arcane or Spinel from Steven Universe. These characters are amazingly written and performed and I do love them dearly. And there is nothing wrong with them, but it is nice to even the playing field. To have a character with traits of BPD who is fundamentally good and does the right thing. They are a protagonist of their story and even a hero!

And that is why I think Crowley is good representation of BPD (even if it was not intended that way).

And here's hoping to season 3 so our demon (and angel) get a happy ending!

[nie7027]

Related to the all persona au I have that I have briefly mentioned before...

I've been thinking about my headcanon of how persona users become stronger/more powerful the longer they have had their powers and how that coupled with my headcanon about how the P1 and P2 casts are leagues more powerful than the neo persona casts (a single person from P1 or P2 would be able to take the the whole SEES or the Investigation or the Phantom Thieves on their own) because unlike the neo persona casts they received their powers directly from Philemon while the neo casts received it from the remnants of Philemon's power that Igor has means the P1 cast HAS to be introduced before the P2 casts in my all persona au.

Because the P1 cast being the ones to receive their powers first (and from Philemon) are the most powerful of them but they are also the ones who have been able to grow up accustomed to that power, to learn to control it as it develops and be aware of the huge responsability of it whereas the P2 cast didnt have that chance.

They are time bombs.

They have a huge amount of power they don't know how to control, they never got to learn how. Due to their circumstances they aren't even aware of the great power they have. They have no memories of that.

And if the memories ever return they would cause such an emotional overload that it would leave the person completely unstable. If only for a few minutes.

A few minutes too much considering the great amount of power they are unaware they have.

Decades of power they never learned to control accumulated along with mental unstability... That's an extremely dangerous combination

They are time bombs only someone from the P1 cast would be able to manage, not someone from P3/P4/P5 (maybe Minato/Minako but they are... you know.... Dead....speaking of Ryoji would also definitely be able to take them on but yeah he's unavailable too)

Even someone like the Real Tatsuya who actually got to grew up using his power isn't free of that because yeah he has decades of experience using his power but he also was trapped in a post apocalyptic dimension filled with shadows.

He's traumatized.

He lived for decades in a permanent high stress environment with next to no support (or none at all if he lost Katsuya at some point which is most likely the way im going) and accustomed to using his power without any constraint (there's only shadows around him, there's no need to care if he goes over the top and destroys everything in his path).

Upon returning to this side Tatsuya will be unaccustomed to living in a society, to having to restrain his power. And he will be in another highly stressing environment except completely different from what's he's used to because all will come from his head. His trauma.

He will hear a dog bark(having no heard anything but shadows for years) and he will go completely nuke over it in mere seconds launching super powerful attacks before he can even realize what hes doing. Just pure instinct and reflex he had to forge to survive the way he lived but that it's no longer useful to him here, back in the normal world.

He will need a therapist.

And Maki will be perfect for the job.

Not only is she a psychologist and a persona user who received her power directly from Philemon even before Tatsuya(so actually more powerful than him, if not one of the most powerful even in her own group) but she's also someone close to Tatsuya. Someone he knew and considered a friend.

Maki would know this and probably prepared for years for this (never losing hope that she would someday help the kids she couldn't help when she was younger).

She would appoint herself as Tatsuyas therapist the moment he steps back into our world, already applying all the psychology techniques she knows to help Tatsuya start processing his trauma way before Tatsuya or anyone else even realizes what she's doing.

It also fits nicely in my au because she's already also Akechis therapist which gives me an excuse to give them something in common, something that would help them get to know each other and bond over.

I imagine either Akechi or Tatsuyas exiting Maki's temporal office in the Shadows ops headquarters just as the other is arriving for their respective session and making small talk while Maki gets ready to receive the other.

Or them talking/complaining about the exercises Maki has ordered them to do and how much they frustrate them.

Just. I love when the au builds on its own

[ombrathefurry]

canon vs fanon main characters

I’ve had to answer this ask six times because Tumblr on my phone keeps deleting my response

Sf 

Canon: Severely traumatized, not very loud about his feelings, not very loud in general, good intentions but DEFINITELY not innocent, avoids attention and confrontation as much as possible, a cat, child that needs protecting, actually kind of smart sometimes, “everything that happens to me isn’t my choice anymore” but in a bitterness to the world way 

Fanon: Neurotically anxious, main character syndrome, loud, “PLEASE DONT HURT ME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE,” panics a lot (but not in the way he actually does this one is more like a meltdown than a panic attack,) innocent bean, literally almost every other animal other than a cat (usually mouse or sheep,) kind of dumb child that needs protecting, shouldn’t be left on his own, warms up to people too fast, “everything that happens to me isn’t my choice” but in a woe is me kind of way (main character syndrome)

Phoenix 

Canon: Literally a horrible person, woman, boxy and strong, scariest and most dangerous out of the main cast, a literal sadist, horribly unwell both physically and mentally, actually just a monster she’s just become the epitome of a monster, TORTURES people and never intentionally KILLS them, absolutely terrifying especially in a fight, very unstable mentality (which leads to her being not so evil sometimes,) she cannot be fixed 

Fanon: Man (???) less scary than loading (??????) kind of edgy but not super scary, the cool lady baddie character that everyone avoids because she’s kind of scary, kills people, isn’t very cruel she’s just insane, “ehehehheee” evil instead of just actual pure evil

Loading 

Canon: Mentally unstable, gayest man alive, very severe mood swings (can be the nicest man alive or the most viscerally psychotic creature chasing you like a rabid dog,) a stupid idiot, no capability of manipulation (he also would have no interest,) manic killer, loves Draven with a deep passion, people think he’s evil because it’s just the way he is, silly 

Fanon: Big evil mastermind, calculating psycho, always evil, kind of a jerk, smart, a simp for Draven, people think he’s evil because he tries to be, sfs worst nightmare (occasionally #1 tormentor???????) scariest of the gang 

Draven 

Canon: Apathetic scary man, he’s scary because he’s unpredictable, occasionally sadistic and when he is he’s actually really bad, doesn’t look for much trouble but when he does his craziness shows through, but he’s also actually traumatized and is struggling with it, love loading with the same deep passion, okay yeah now that I think about it he’s actually very mentally unwell too 

Fanon: Emotionless man who doesn’t care about anything (he does he just doesn’t show it) not scary, kind of uninterested in loading, dad vibes sometimes I don’t know how 

Reena 

Canon: Bubbly, kind of a jerk actually, annoying, nice to her friends though, can’t do much about anything that’s happening to sf despite really wanting to, watches over sf rather than protects him 

Fanon: Protects sf, innocent, elegant, kind peaceful ghost type thing idk there’s not much else she doesn’t get a lot of attention 

[sunderingstars]

Ooh can you explain ur thoughts on sampo and the songs breezeblocks, cha cha, and genius?

ʚ 💌 ɞ sure thing! beyond just liking the way they sound (i tend to associate upbeat, brain itchy, and overall “quirky” songs with sampo), here are some reasons i like these in particular:

breezeblocks by alt-j

⟢ the main reason i chose this song is the repeating lines near the end: “please don’t go, please don’t go / i love you so, i love you so / please break my heart.” the phrase of “i’ll eat you whole” being repeated throughout also a nice touch.

⟢ i found this part of the lyrics pretty indicative of how i imagine sampo handling interpersonal relationships mentally (regardless of how he expresses it on the outside). with all the hate / love / betrayal motifs present throughout his character, it made sense to me that he would latch on tightly to those he feels he can truly trust, albeit in a slightly traumatized and conflicted way.

⟢ whatever past he may have gone through, it causes him to expect heartbreak, which is why he might associate pain and/or betrayal with love. additionally, a sampo with an unstable identity or experience (i.e. doll, emanator, aeon, etc.) would likely have a side of him that he’s afraid will hurt those he cares about. however, i don’t see that as stopping him from sticking around, but rather something that causes a complicated internal mess (like the push and pull of “please don’t go” and “i’ll eat you whole”).

⟢ i also think the other lyrics like “she may contain the urge to run away / but hold her down with soggy clothes and breezeblocks” and “the fear has gripped me but here i go / my heart sinks as i jump up / your hand grips hand as my eyes shut” could convey sampo’s relationship with elation vs. belobog as well. he may feel trapped and in need of escape, yet is held down by certain aspects of his identity or path. belobog could be a sort of “trust fall” in this scenario, with his friends acting as a lifeline that, despite the fear he may feel, encourage him to take their hands and find better for himself.

⟢ (since doll!sampo has invaded my mind for months and refused to leave, i think “she bruises, coughs, she sputters pistol shots” is a nice touch too since it can link back to a sampo whose only purpose is to be hurt by others.)

cha cha by freddie dredd

⟢ i’ll be honest, this was a completely self-indulgent addition. i really like the way it sounds and thought the chorus especially hit that “brain buzz” i tend to associate with sampo.

⟢ however, i do like how the lyrics start out in a different language, flowing smoother and slower, before turning into the choppy, punchy beat of the chorus in english. similarly to in the dark and let me go, i feel this does a good job of conveying how i see sampo’s internal versus external world. externally, he can be quite chaotic and unpredictable, but internally, i believe he feels things deeply, especially fondness and protection for others.

⟢ the lyrics aid this, as the non-english lines speak of moonlight and stars and dancing, while the english lyrics establish emotional distance by acting flippant. again, i tend to think sampo feels love very deeply, which is mirrored by the soft, emotional beginning. however, his outward persona tends to be perceived by others as the more chaotic english sections of the song!

genius (feat. sia, diplo, and labrinth) by lsd

⟢ this one definitely leans into the more egotistical side of sampo, especially when considering “curio hacker” and how he may be paying a price to gain something later on. “i’m a genius” very much reads like sampo being confident in whatever his master plan is and indulging in feeling good about himself a little (as he should!).

⟢ i also think “do you think i’m stupid? / do you think i’m batshit crazy, having you on my mind? / do you think i’m helpless? / my algebra gon’ equal you every time” is a link to his feelings towards the elation / aha / the masked fools, especially any resentment implied by his themes of “hate” and “betrayal”.

⟢ sia’s part in the song actually pivots away from what i’ve been talking about though, and i tend to see her part as a more earnest depiction of how sampo might flirt with or feel about others he’s romantically interested in. when put in context with the rest of the song, i also read the whole piece as one long “flirt,” since i think sampo’s way of doing it would be very much as confident and forward as the song’s lyrics. (plus, he would probably spin dating as a “genius business decision” or something like that!)

🪐 .𖥔 ݁ ˖ asks are still open for anyone who wants to request songs :))

[thedemoninmywalls]

would rire have ever gotten involved with aro if she wasnt human? if aro was a bestman (woman?) or another lower level demon would rire have ever taken an interest in her? would aro change much if she wasnt human or would she still be pretty ordinary despite these things? and if she wasnt human would she fight back more or would rire still be able to overpower her as easily as he does?

- 🐾

Buckle up fellas this is gonna be a long ramble that may or may not actually answer the questions

So first of all I need to make it clear that no matter what kind of setting it is or what sort of creature she is, Aro will always be a dorky loser. Because she's me and that's how I see myself (healthy coping mechanism /sarcasm).

Another important fact is that Rire really likes(?) humans. He likes how diverse they are and how self-destructive they can be. When you've lived for over 900 years, things can get pretty boring, but humans continue to surprise him.

Humans typically can't sense Rire's demonic nature until it's too late, and they always have interesting reactions. Demons, animals, and other creatures can sense his true nature much faster, which means the surprise is ruined. They're just not as fun to play with and they're more likely to just beg for mercy immediately. Which is boring

All that is to say that Aro being a human is an important part of why Rire likes her - she continues to surprise him and the novelty hasn't worn off yet

Let's talk about the AUs where Aro isn't a human.

In the Swap AU, she's a succubus who is Bad At Her Job and Lucien is a normal human. Their power dynamic is switched and it's an overall much healthier relationship.

The Angel Aro AU is more interesting to me. Aro is a guardian angel who is Bad At Her Job and accidentally let the human she was supposed to be protecting die. Too scared to go back to Heaven, she accepts protection from a demon instead.

In this AU the power dynamic is different because Aro can actually beat Rire. Demons beat humans and angels beat demons. However, because she's traumatized by the death of her human and terrified of retribution, Rire is able to emotionally manipulate her.

And he takes great pleasure in corrupting and abusing an angel.

It's similar to how Cain is overpowered but also mentally unstable. He has the abilities of a god, but if you say one(1) mean thing to him he will have a mental breakdown and cry for a week.

Angel Aro is similar. She may be stronger but Rire will still overpower her because she doesn't have the mental capacity to beat him. She definitely has a better chance of fighting back, but Rire will make sure her mental health suffers until she's unable to get back on her feet.

I hope that makes sense and isn't just nonsense XD thank you for the questions, it helps me develop the characters!! Now I need to draw the AUs!

[shakertwelve]

the obvious defense of this point would be that Victoria is simply supposed to be Wrong About It, which I would love, except that the narrative very carefully bends to make sure that Victoria is Always Right, and ESPECIALLY Always Right about Cape Science

[ context: the quote we're talking about: “I guess it doesn’t make sense as a thing powers would do.  Powers tend to steer clear of the suicidal, the helpless, the invalid, or people who are limited.” ]

my best guess as to what wildbow meant, if he put any thought into this at all? this is ward's version of the scene in worm that goes out of its way to make clear that labyrinth is not autistic and had a "normal" mind before her trigger (and the similar clarification about bitch). wildbow didn't want to write about developmental disabilities, probably because he thought he didn't know enough about the subject not to mess up and get in trouble for writing something offensive, so his solution was to just state that no one in parahumans is meant as "representation" of that demographic and avoid the issue altogether. this at least makes some kind of sense, if you are wildbow.

the obvious issue here is that this quote doesn't just single out developmental disabilities, but is phrased broadly enough to apply to almost any kind of illness or disorder. worm presents superpowers as explicitly tied to a traumatic event and as a metaphor for the effects of trauma, and experiencing other forms of illness and distress make someone much more likely to process an event as a trauma, so logically, mentally ill and disabled people should be overrepresented in the parahuman population (feeling "helpless" or distressed enough to be suicidal are common elements to many parahuman triggers), and the ways capes tend to act in the text of both books consistently reflect this. the only other explanation i can think of is that we're using an extremely restrictive definition of mental disorders (i.e. we're being the guy who thinks adhd isn't a real neurotype, so imp and kid win don't count, and low-empathy is just code for being a bad person, so cradle doesn't count, and so on...), and even that doesn't explain why we're claiming physically disabled people also can't get powers, when wildbow has written about it happening plenty of times (thank you @john-cherry-the-6th for bringing up this wog about triggers in suicidal people that includes the trigger event of a coma patient). also, we've seen that powers can cure illnesses as part of the trigger (see: vikare, famously the first hero ever, whose powers manifesting cured his cancer) if they really need to (they don't even do it all the time if the host isn't dying and can still fight with the power, like genesis), so why would they care if a prospective host is disabled? but whatever--let's disregard all evidence to the contrary and assume that all capes were 100% Mentally Normal (a very objective standard) before their triggers, so their erratic behavior after triggering must be purely the influence of their superpowers.

of course, now we have to go back to the first part of the quote. victoria claims that she doesn't think it's likely that finale's powers would affect her mental development after she manifested them, because powers want their hosts to be able and ready for action. so that can't be why capes like labyrinth and bitch exist, either; powers avoid choosing "limited" people as hosts and they also don't want to make their hosts limited, therefore all parahumans must be healthy because shards want healthy hosts. except there's absolutely no way any scientific study of parahumans in this world would come to this conclusion! scores of therapists run themselves ragged dealing with the various complexes of just the heroic capes, and capes on the "villainous" side are understood to be, on average, even more unstable! victoria has been working with jessica yamada, who definitely knows this, for ages! what the fuck is she talking about!

CONCLUSION: ??? wildbow got confused while writing about his own setting's alien brain parasites and started describing yeerks instead

[sugoi-and-spice]

Wait call me cirnge but UGH i love play nice sm...

I want your opinion on these questions! you don't have to but i just wanted to hear it cause while i was reading i was thinking of SOOO many what ifs

1. Do you think the story would've still happened if reader was muscular/chubby (not beauty standard)?

2.what if reader wasn't in a pre-existing relationship?

3.what if ready was just as mentally ill as Tomura?

4. has kurogiri ever had the displeasure of hearing reader and tomura?

5.what if instead of employee, reader's parent was a business partner to AFO?

OMG i have so many more but like..I don't want to bug you!! I just need to hear your opinion, from the great spice themselves 💕

Not cringey at all! Very fun questions in fact! Thanks for asking them, I love to answer stuff like this about my fics.

1. Do you think the story would've still happened if reader was muscular/chubby (not beauty standard)?

I typically write MC as more muscular in general, since she's a pretty top-tier athlete. That being said, I also try not to go too in depth with MC's physical descriptions, outside of Shigaraki describing her hotness, which can really be any body type.

Ultimately, her body-type really doesn't have much relevance to the story, so yeah, I think it can happen no matter what she looks like.

2. what if reader wasn't in a pre-existing relationship?

Hmmm, I don't know - it's a pretty big aspect of the story so I haven't really considered how it would go down without Mirio. I definitely don't think it'd be any easier for them. Shigaraki and AFO would make damn sure of that.

MC would probably be a lot quicker to admit her feelings for Shigaraki and put her heart on her sleeve, which in turn would scare the crap out of Shigaraki sooner and cause him to self-sabotage.

The story would also probably be more focused around AFO trying to separate the two, as it is steadily started to focus now.

3. what if ready was just as mentally ill as Tomura?

Hmm, again I haven't written MC as explicitly not mentally ill. She probably has some pretty hardcore anxiety, ngl lol. But also, I for sure haven't written her as unstable and traumatized as Shigaraki is.

For MC to be that way, idk, that would be a very different story. They'd be relating to each other in completely different ways than they do in this story. As it is, MC represents a potential safe space and source of stability for Shigaraki. So for MC to not offer that stability to him? Again, would be a very different story with all different types of healing needed.

4. has kurogiri ever had the displeasure of hearing reader and tomura?

Lmaoooo, oh most definitely.

5. what if instead of employee, reader's parent was a business partner to AFO?

Pretty similar. Honestly, even AFO's business partners or "equals"... well they're not really equals. He has dirt and manipulation techniques on basically everyone in his life, and he's ready and willing to do anything he can to ruin them if he needs (or wants). So he'd have no problem threatening a business partner's job or reputation.

These were fun to answer! Sorry if my answer to some of them were kind of vague, there are some things that are so dependent on character choices or situations I chose for the characters that changing them would fundamentally change the story. And on the contrary, there are aspects I try to leave vague enough that the answer would be no difference.

So I hope you still found these fun. I know I did! So feel free to send in more. ^_^

[sonderblade]

So I hope this isn't me stepping on your toes but I got inspired to write a scene between Orlox and Richter (based on the scene between Silco and Jinx after her mess up). Like literally I have brain rot thinking of this AU.

I was trying to figure out what it meant that Richter has powerful magic but is unstable. I was thinking that his magic's aura/color matched Orlox. I also thought that he could use a dagger (Orlox trained him into using it and it acts as a conduit for his magic) and possibly an axe ( looked at what he used in the Castlevania games).

DONT WORRY YO!!! YOU ARE NOT STEPPING ON ANY OF MY TOES!!!! I HAVE BRAINROT ABOUT THIS AU TOO!!!

Reminder that this AU does belong to @hyperfixatedfandomer and this is my spin off version of it !! :))

Also please drop the written scene about Olrox and Richter with the Silco and Jinx basis because I NEED TO SEE IT!!!! PLEASE🙏🙏

What I meant by Richter having powerful magic but it was unstable was that he can do extraordinary spells and magic but since he’s heavily traumatized, it can lead to it being explosive, dangerous, and chaotic to anyone around him. Richter has a lot of potential of being insanely powerful like we see in the show but he’s in an unstable mental state in this AU which directly affects his powers and how it’s put out when in use. For example, with Jinx we see she is intelligent and great at fighting but she is super unstable and chaotic which affects those around her like in the first scene we see her PSTD attack and she starts firing on everyone, including her own people.

Also the axe is such a good idea!!! I’m not entirely familiar with the Castlevania games but I love idea!!!

I’ll definitely post later with some more drawings!! Stay tuned :3

[xstarvibezx]

Made some stuff of my second AU the other day!! Also lore about the second AU is below the cut!

BLUE | HE/HIM | BIXSEXUAL

-This man is a bit of a control freak who has a unhealthy way of simping for Green, bro got some anger issues like first AU Blue but,,,,kinda more...worse???? Like bro got mad that Green rejected him on his first confession and well blinded the poor thing. He is still dumb in this AU--but his strength makes up for it. He also ripped off Green's arms,,,,because of some,,,certain things, not things that involving his feelings for Green. Blue likes to constantly remind the others of things, mostly bad things. Bro is traumatized but like- he don't care????

GREEN | HE/THEY | BISEXUAL | TRANSGENDER

-Green isn't as shy or nervous as first AU Green, but he's extra more reserved than other him. He has a crush on Red but like,,,,he can't confess or do anything about it without Blue constantly butting into his personal space and flirt with him, he absolutely and rightfully despises Blue. He often tries to ignore Blue's attempts after he was blinded all because he tried to reject him. Green is extremely violent when he's pissed, which also has ended up of getting him into situations he can't get out of. Such as his arms getting ripped off. He is extra traumatized because Blue happened <3

ORANGE | HE/THEY | ???

-Orange is,,,,something. Bro's always hungry like his first AU self but sort of,,,worse??? He usually wears a muzzle whenever he's around the others, especially Red or Yellow. He's head over heels for Cyan, constantly wants attention and affection from her. If he gets told no or smth from her, he will be sad and enters a bit of depressed state for a little while and after that, he tries again. He doesn't get violent nor does whatever Blue does, he just gets sad. He doesn't really like Yellow because he thinks he's a coward.

PURPLE | IT/THEY/ANY | PANSEXUAL | GENDERFLUID

-Purple...oh dear- they mostly have their eyes closed due to Blue ruthlessly messing up their vision but their not entirely blind, they are insane as hell and is usually in the vents. Waiting for their next victim. They don't really care for everyone's feelings and is mostly lonely, they like to talk to rats or smth. They imagine things that aren't really there, and they always stalk the others and loves scaring them all.

RED | HE/THEY | GAY | TRANSGENDER

-Oh my god, this man is traumatized. Forcefully too. Blue usually targets him mostly so the poor guy,,,,is a fucking mess, he's not insane but he's paranoid as fuck. He is often seen in his lab, office or around Green. Considering how Green is the only somewhat sane/normal one around the play place. He isn't really a people pleaser like his other self but he's definitely a nervous wreck, he still tries to be brave and sometimes succeeds but Blue puts him back in his place.

CYAN | SHE/IT/THEY | ??? | NONBINARY

-Cyan has quite a temper, more than her first AU self. She constantly acts like she's the boss of Odd World, almost like Blue. She is extremely aggressive and hostile towards Yellow, and often rejects Orange's attempts. Not having any interest in him. She sometimes like to manipulate Yellow or poor Pink.

YELLOW | HE/SHE | BISEXUAL | TRANSGENDER

-Yellow, poor guy, is the only somewhat sane one in Odd World. He hates Cyan, he usually hangs around Pink because he feels more safer with her even if Pink is no longer...herself. He tries to be there for her, he doesn't really like Orange either. He wants things to be,,,,somewhat normal or less tense.

OSWALD | HE/IT | PANSEXUAL | TRANSGENDER

-Not much about Oswald other then he's dead. He is still Red's father in this AU but it's unclear of what happened to him or how he died.

TRENTON | HE/HIM | BISEXUAL

-Trenton is currently in hiding due to the rainbow friends being so aggressive or mentally unstable in someways, he is trying to figure out what happened to Oswald but doesn't know that his best friend boyfriend is dead. He will visit Yellow mostly since Yellow is the least threatening rainbow friend and is the more,,,,normal one than Green is.

PINK | SHE/THEY/IT | BISEXUAL | NONBINARY

-Pink and Blue are still siblings in this AU, her ex-boyfriend is still Red but those two relationship was more wholesome and more lovey dovey, the two broke up due to Blue's controlling ways. Traumatizing Red and hurting Pink. Pink doesn't have a leg and half of her face was torn due to Blue wanting his sister to be like him in someways, she's sort of-- his personal punching bag if you really think about this. She still has feelings for Red but can't do anything. Poor gal is traumatized and just wants to escape from Blue's wrath, she is thankful that Yellow keeps her company but is...a bit mentally out of it.

[estellardreams]

A Proper Summary on WHO'S THE MOST DANGEROUS TRAUMA SIBLING BECAUSE THE POLL IS GETTING THE QUESTION WRONG.

I hhave a feeling that people are messing up what the question is... When I said "Who's the Most Dangerous Trauma Sibling™?" I meant in their current forms, not if they snapped out of their states on who would be the most vengeful... That answer would've gone to Damien, anyway.

No, I'm going to fix this predicament... By telling EVERYONE who's actually the most dangerous. Starting with the least.

Nikolai Peterson

Do I even need to explain? The small, anxiety riddled hedgehog who can't fend for himself and has too many problems in his mind? You think HE'S the most dangerous? Really?

He can't run, so definitely not Sonic. Agoraphobia literally shows his recovery process, and it did take a while for him to revert close to normal but those traits still remained.

And his anxiety is PROBLEMATIC. That boy can't fight for anything and Starline constantly capitalizes on his weakness. It's... Rather pathetic, really.

There's a lot more to go into but... He's not strong. At all.

"You are not Sonic the Hedgehog. You have never been Sonic the Hedgehog"

Niko is normal. That's the point. He doesn't believe he's Sonic. He's the complete opposite to him in every capacity, too.

Kyle Molina

Kyle is... A unique case. He's a completely blank slate.

I am not exaggerating.

He kept resisting Starline so much that the platypus had to resort to drugging him so much that he couldn't think straight and his memories were buried underneath the fog.

A very thick and deep fog, to be specific.

To summarize who he is now... He is very calm and collected, but still holds an imaginative mindset underneath that silent and stoic exterior.

Kyle is also not the type to get mad. That's very clear. He's more likely to show fear than anger or sadness in general.

He's like... The type who doesn't emote very often. He's generally calm, collected, and keeps his thoughts in order. Starline couldn't wipe his intelligence, but he did wipe his memories, leaving a very intelligent child on his own with no idea why he's even like this in the first place.

"You cannot fly. You do not have two tails."

Kyle was made to believe he was a normal fox. What sets him away from Camellia is that his memories are all gone.

A blank slate can't do anything if it knows nothing was there at all.

Damien Bridges

This one is... Obvious. Damien is borderline insane, and that's been a continuous fact with him. He is just as smart as Kyle, but due to his more unstable mind he's a lot more... Unhinged, so to speak.

Damien is practically the definition of "dying inside" and I am not joking. He's been smiling so much, his pupils have shrunken down, and he's constantly on the verge of a mental breakdown every single day.

Insane laughter is there too. And it can get bad to the point he spirals.

But where this differs is... How Starline handled him versus Amy. We'll get into her next.

Damien has mental restrictions on him, so he'll not snap and be forced to rely on Starline. It's mainly the case of repeated fake flashbacks that Starline helps him through so Damien must rely on him for help and safety from these recurring traumatic experiences.

And if people TRY to take Nox from Agoraphobia into account for the fact that Damien is the most dangerous, KEEP IN MIND he became the major antagonist when he went off his meds and essentially "broke out" of his programming. He doesn't count.

"You are not Shadow the Hedgehog. You are not the Ultimate Lifeform."

Damien is similar to Niko in his treatment in a lot of ways, but his trauma response is completely different in correlation with his new personality. As such, he's on the edge of being erratic, insane, and hard to deal with. The only thing that keeps him in line are his mental restraints.

Camellia Rivera

I had this discussion with Sky so I'll rephrase what I said here: She's the closest to her OG counterpart, and as such the most likely to fight back and grow aggressive towards others. Damien has the disadvantage of mental restraints, Camellia doesn't.

Camellia, in Heliophobia, is the only character who's run away from her family. In other circumstances, like Pragmatophobia, she is the first person to realize she's been manipulated by Starline. The first one to discover the truth. And even her efforts in both Pragmatophobia and Athazagoraphobia don't go unnoticed. She makes an effort to help save others also stuck in this trap (whether it works or not, no idea).

Camellia is also very strong-willed. That energetic, bubbly personality presents her as being a lot more confident and open about herself and her ideals. She might slip into anxious territory occasionally, but she's been very strong entirely through her existence.

"You are not magical. You are normal."

And what happens when you remove the idea of someone being magical but leave their personality untouched? You get Camellia.

And Camellia is absolutely someone you shouldn't get into a fight with.

I rest my case. Thank you for reading. :)

[starkcanvas]

how do u think mari would uniquely react to seeing the three main snuy ships

Mmm, this could be a toughie to do fairly since I have my own biases too for Sunny ships but I’ll try my best to keep it as balanced as possible ^^; lol

Suntan:

Mari would honestly be a little surprised at that- as she recalled just how much Kel hated romance with a burning passion as a kid. Him very often claiming that Hero would get “cooties” whenever he spent time with her. That and she distinctively remembered Sunny having a crush on Aubrey although she then thinks that crush probably died when she did.

So to see Kel and her little brother hook up certainly takes her off guard. But she definitely supports it if it makes Sunny happy. Because if during the times she’s checking on him and she gets to see him smiling more, that’s a win in her ghost books :D although, she does hope that when Hero finds out about their relationship, he doesn’t have a negative reaction at the whole “my little brother is dating the brother of my own ex-girlfriend who was accidentally killed by said brother.”

She desperately hopes Hero ends up okay…

Sunburn:

This Mari did expect to happen at one point or another, although that was before she died. A part of her did see Aubrey was going through an extremely rough patch- her thinking everyone abandoned her, and then there’s Sunny slashing her arm. (Omori guidebook art confirms he slashed her left arm)

So Mari expected that all of that and then combined with the truth would’ve possibly shattered all chances of that romance working out. But in this scenario, it happened against all odds and Mari is very happy for both of them. Now finding their long desired happiness in each other and, possibly, a future family down the line as well. Mari definitely getting giddy at the thought of being an Aunt, even in death. ^^

Sunflower:

Now, Mari’s gotta be honest: as much as she’s happy Sunny finds someone for his love life, she is extremely paranoid and worried when learning it’s Basil. I mean, how can she not be?? The poor boy has been pretty mentally unstable due to hallucinations and traumatic events for 4 years, him being the one to also stab Sunny’s eye out and also the person, who was not only running off adrenaline, but also the one who hung her body to hide an accidental murder as suicide. And if Sunny hadn’t stepped in, Basil would’ve taken his own life.

Mari gets that Basil makes Sunny happy, but on the other side, the plant boy is a traumatized ticking time bomb waiting to go off at the smallest shot to his self-esteem. So while she doesn’t have a say in who Sunny can and can’t date (obviously lol) if he does pick Basil, that’s gonna have her constantly worrying for the rest of her eternity. Each day goes by and not one does she not pray and hope her little brother doesn’t somehow join her early jksjdhdks

[panic-at-the-waffle-house]

Apologies since this is just becoming a BSD rant page :(

Anyway back to Mori because I still have more to say. You think I was done??? Foolish mistake I have so much to continue about him. No joke I have notebooks long shit of all BSD characters.

Okay I’ve read all of the light novels, read the manga, and watched every episode under the sun because I’m mentally unstable and one thing I continuously see in this fandom is the miss-characterization of so many characters. Every. Damn. One. Personally I feel like Chūya, Dazai, Atsushi, Kunikida, and Mori are some of the worst I’ve seen but believe me all of them are pretty bad.

Anyway like I said this is about Mori. Is he creepy? Yes. Is it awful that he had Yosano in such a way along with all of the other children? Yes. Is his ability weird AF? Yes. But I’m going to say something and feel free to disagree with me on this one because I knows it’s a very touchy subject.

Tw: Spoilers and reference of manipulation, sexual assult, rape.

Okay so I don’t think that Mori is the pedophilia stereotype that all of y’all like to portray him as. His “little girl” thing is definitely a big reason why he’s places in this box but can we stop and think? I believe that the author put that line “I prefer the woman in my life to be under twelve” to be comedic, I truly do because we all know how dark this story gets. But to me the main reason he likes younger girls/ people is because they’re easy to manipulate.

If he just liked little girls for sexual reasons I believe that he would’ve fought SO much harder for Yosano. I’m not saying what he did was bad (it was awful and traumatic) but if he desired her for sexual reasons I feel like he would’ve done it in a different way. He wanted Yosano for her ability and because of that Yosano didn’t want her ability which helped create the building block of her character development of learning to use her ability.

Mori’s obsession with Yosano was not just because she was a little girl, it was her ability. I also think that his weird worm squirming was to put some humor into the show. But him saying “MY Yosano” was because he OWNED that ability since she was under his order. It’s not “his Yosano”, it’s “his ability”

A fourteen year old Dazai. He just tried to commit suicide and he had little to no intention of living, being a true human. So what can Mori do? Manipulate, control, and use. That’s what he did to Dazai in his years at the mafia. Whoever says that Mori raped him or sexually assaulted him needs to take a deep breath and actually look with their eyes. Chūya was a kid with nowhere to go and Mori saw that. He told Chūya what Chūya wanted to hear, promised him something he wanted, and then got him into the mafia.

Manipulate, control, use. That is Mori’s true faults. Not pedophilia. I’m sad to admit that it feels like pedophilia is almost being thrown around.

Younger kids (especially girls) are easy to manipulate if done the right way. It’s easy because their frontal cortex hasn’t fully developed and as kids there’s no reason to not trust somebody who’s nice to you. He knows that, the older somebody is the harder it is to get them to do something you want. Take Kōyo, Mori knows that she could leave, he even said he wouldn’t stop her if she left because she’s an adult who can create a consequence. But a little kid? They don’t have that power.

His lolicon persona we see is for humorous reasons, it’s so people who don’t look too deep into things can laugh and be like “pathetic man”. But for those who do analyze (the majority of us) we see something different. For some people it’s a pedophile who likes to sexually assault kids and for some it’s just a mastermind doing his mastermind manipulation.

And I know one big argument is the name of his ability. The book itself is about his journey growing up and what sexual desires he had growing up. Elise isn’t even in that book. She’s in another book called the “Dancing Girl” and she’s a full adult in that one. Asigiri tends to choose ability names based off of popular titles and both of them are very popular works of his.

I’m currently writing my own fanfiction and Mori isn’t even mentioned in any line that has the words rape in it. His characterization is all about the mental manipulation of his daughter who the story is centered around.

Please separate the irl author from the in universe one. Irl Mori was such a cool man and an amazing writer with a badass daughter.

If you have any disagreements I’d love to hear them but no fighting pls. :)