#she can't just be the neglectful mother who fucked off after its been implied how close her and Charlie's relationship was

[allastoredeer]

Hola deer I was wondering what are your thoughts of who might have Al on a leash…I know many people are speculating it to be Lilith, but I feel like There is no way Al had a whole breakdown song just for being Lilith lackeys. True it might be that he just wants his power back, but the idea of Lilith requesting Al to keep an eye on the hotel it’s not that bad per se. The way he reacted when Husk mentioned his leash, that was the face of a man who is terrified to lose control and making a deal with Charlie was his last remedy.

The man is desperate and I can’t stop thinking about the fact the he was already so powerful when he come to hell, And unless he met someone who had a lot of knowledge on the place before dying, I doubt he would have got the title of overlord that quickly. Someone must have helped him right?! Same with Lilith. As the story goes she became so very powerful when she feel in hell, but how? Do u just know what your power are and how to use them when u die? Lilith was the first of her kind to get down there, there was no one she could have taken inspiration from. And what about Al’s shadow? I mean what shadows have in correlation with a deer man with a microphone? To me it would make much more sense if when Al was alive, he got in contact with someone very powerful from hell and made the naive mistake to trust it. He sold his soul and he got shadows to help him through his murders, then Upon dying, he made a second mistake and momentarily forgot about his leash, going around and killing Overlords for his own entertainment, until he was called back to fulfill his end of the bargain.

My speculation is that root must have his soul and maybe even Lilith’s soul, or at least some kinda of deal with her, that got her to be the queen she is remembered as. Heaven is the only place where root eyes are not visible, and it might explain why Lilith disappeared for 7 years in the angel land , same as Al. Maybe Lilith helped Al in exchange of him taking care of his daughter for her or something, and while they were together Lilith might have accidentally influenced Al’s opinion on the king of hell as well, causing the man to hate him at first sight lol

Just imagining Lilith ranting about his ex husband to Alastor, like Charlie did about Vaggie, when they were going to cannibalism town it’s so funny to me.

I like the idea that She's just Luci's long-suffering wine mom friend who is amicably divorced from him and ends up gaining a second man child once Luci and Al get together. I think her being the villain it’s just too cliche and I feel like it would be so much better if she actually start bickering with Lucy, angry talking like two feral cats lol

But let me know what you think😆

I get why a lot of people are speculating that Lilith has Alastor on a leash, and I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if she does, but I really think it's Roo.

Or, at least, I want it to be her so badly.

I agree that I don't think Alastor would have a mental breakdown over being Lilith's lackey. Honestly, I don't agree with whole idea/concept that Lilith is even the bad guy. Like, I won't be mad if she is, because I love corrupt or morally grey female characters, but I think there is so much more going on them meets the eye.

A lot of people saw that 5 second glimpse of her onscreen during the season finale and kind of just assumed she ditched Hell and her family to live it up in Heaven, but I just...that makes absolutely no sense to me, especially given how she's been depicted in the background during the show. Given what little we know about Lilith, I just cannot see her leaving Lucifer, Charlie, and her entire domain to go fuck around in Heaven, whom I imagine she wouldn't have a very good relationship with, anyway.

And yes! I also massively agree about Alastor getting his power from some kind of source. It was specifically stated that he was toppling Overlords and gaining power faster than anyone ever has before, and from what we can deduce from the show, Alastor has the power to actually kill sinners - which isn't supposed to be possible. The only way sinners are supposed to die is with angelic weaponry.

Not only that, it also hasn't been hinted or implied that anyone else has been able to rip apart souls like he does. As far as we've seen from the other Overlords, the most you can do is own someone's soul.

So we have Alastor over here rising to the top of the food chain almost over night, gaining power at a rapid pace, with abilities that no one else seems to have. Yeah, I 100% believe he made a deal with someone when he first came into Hell, and I think that person was Roo.

I mean, what motive would Lilith have for making a deal with this random sinner who just entered Hell? Out of the hundreds (if not thousands) of sinners who have to be arriving in Hell by the day? What would she have to gain by doing that? What could Alastor possibly offer her that she, the Queen of Hell, can't do herself?

But Roo? She's the Root of all Evil. She doesn't need a reason. She can be evil for the sake of being evil. I can see her picking a random, wide-eyed, recently deceased sinner and giving them the deal of a lifetime - one that she can cash in on later.

And even if it wasn't random, I can see her looking for a lackey to give power to, to then use as a pawn farther down the road. I can see her being cunning and careful with who she picks, and I 100% believe she would see Alastor's insecure ass and know that guy would do anything to get power (the faster the better), especially if he only just died and didn't yet understand the full scale and structure of Hell, and how serious those kinds of deals are.

(And I can also see Alastor making a deal with Roo when he was alive and then suffering the consequences of it when he died. That's be super cool.)

As for why, well, Roo obviously doesn't have much sway in Hell, despite being the Root of all Evil, because we don't see or hear about her at all throughout the show. If she had power over any of the 7 Rings, we would've seen it or heard about it. In fact, she's only been alluded to once, and that was in the first episode, during the opening sequence of Charlie explaining Hell's origin story.

Still, Roo has to interact with Hell in some way, considering she's the personification of evil and this is THE place for wickedness and corruption. I just don't think she has power or dominion there. At least, not yet ;)

I think she's been cooking up a scheme for a while and what we're seeing in season 1 is her slowly putting the game pieces into place. I think she has Alastor on a leash (that she's had him on a leash for a while but she's only just now using it), and I think she's also the reason Lilith is in Heaven.

I mean, when you think about it, of course she would want Lilith out of the picture if she's trying to make a power grab in Hell. Lilith was the one running the place. She thrived in Hell. She empowered it. So getting her out of the picture makes perfect sense, and who would even think to look for Lilith in Heaven? The very last place you'd expect her to be?

I don't know, the whole idea that Lilith is just a big bad evil women who doesn't care about her family and hates Hell and wants nothing to do with either of them just...it doesn't sit right. It doesn't make sense.

I do think that Lilith and Alastor have met each other in some way, though. The both of them disappearing for 7 years, at the same time, is too much of a coincidence (I want her and Alastor to be besties :3) and I just KNOW that there is more to Lucifer and Lilith's divorce than people give it credit for. I want those juicy details. I want a full blown argument between them so we can get that tea.

But if Lilith does end up being one of our antagonists in season 2, I won't be upset, cuz like I said, give me those morally corrupt women. They'll be loved and appreciated here.

Still, my gut says its Roo. And even if Roo isn't directly holding Alastor's leash, I think she's involved in some way and that she's going to be coming into play eventually. She seems like the type who would manipulate things from the shadows, using people as pawns, and playing a game that no one else even realizes they're playing. I want her to be a psychotic little mastermind trash lady.

I neeeeeeed it.

[cinnamonest]

Momcon agenda but with a twist! Sorta double momcon action as a treat (heavily implied consensual momcon for the second momcon situation), lightly hinted that darling is Khaenri'ahn/Khaenri'ah descent

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You're Crepus' wife, scratch that you're just someone he married to save face so no one learned about his shameful little secret: he was fucking his own mother and has been for a while, his father had passed away a little over a decade, but still it's the inevitable he'd knock up his mom and that's where you came into the picture.

You pose as he darling leetle waif despite knowing the situation, it was your only option to keep your own family financially stable.

You weren't stupid enough to believe he would ever love you, not that you wanted or needed his love in the first place. It's a marriage of convenience, that's all it would ever be and you had no issues with it.

The three of you went away from Mondstadt for months, staying in some vacation home his family had had for generations, there were times where Crepus would attend to business but for the most part he tried to be around her.

During the pregnancy the only thing he saw you good for aside from housework was occasionally using you to blow off steam, not wanting to cause unnecessary stress to his mother while she's pregnant,,,how "thoughtful" of him.

It wasn't often he'd use your holes, always gave you medicine to prevent pregnancy since he believed that you didn't deserve to have the "honor" of bearing a Ragvindar and as long as he was alive he'd make sure you never did.

It never bothered you, that doesn't mean you couldn't be resentful of him as a whole.

Eventually, Diluc was born and when your "mother-in-law" was healthy for travel you return to Mondstadt with the baby in tow.

You deal with the incessant cooing from the other noble families over the boy and how much he took after his father, knowing that Crepus wished he could proudly show off the boy's actual mother but you don't have it in you to care.

At the end of the day this was the price you must pay to ensure that your family never fall into financial ruin.

Even with the passing of his mother he didn't spare you a glance, you were glad that he didn't. He deserved to live with this unbearable heartache, serves him right.

You'd miss the odd friendship you had with her but such as life, you'd be the only one besides Crepus who knew the truth.

You focused more on raising his son when the boy wasn't being watched by the nanny or one of the maids, which was often.

The relationship between Diluc and you was pleasant, but you weren't blind to how his eyes would linger when he thought you weren't pay attention.

When Kaeya coming into the picture nothing changes, just another one who's eyes linger on you.

Time goes on, that's how it is. It's funny how quickly both of them grew into handsome young men.

Touches start to linger longer and longer as the days pass, bold kisses in darkened corners of the estate.

Part of you thinks you should try to steer the boys away from such behavior but at the same time you can't bring yourself to care, they gave you plenty of attention that your "husband" had neglected to give you over the years.

Maybe that's why you don't stop yourself from giving into the attention.

Eventually things become more physical with the boys, they're so eager and cute with how they're trying to please you.

Then that fateful day came along and Crepus had perished, but you can't find it in yourself to be sad. Not when both of your "sons" are taking turns stuffing you full of their seed in the bed you shared with your late "husband".

This was a lifestyle you could get used to.

You'd have to remember to pat yourself on the back later for manipulating Crepus into getting a delusion, knowing full well of what the risks were but never told him.

With careful hands you'll unravel the threads that hold together Mondstadt, bringing this nation down to its knees, and you'll have your two "sons" happily by your side because you know that they'd do anything for you.

Your two good boys, how cute they act when you call them yours and yours alone. You wonder if they'd like it more if you called them your husbands instead.

-🐇 (I got lost in the sauce)

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