#shame on joe and shame on sophie

[jewishbarbies]

I’m so sick of hearing about Joe and Sophie’s divorce. none of this is any of our fucking business, and the answer to one party making it public is not to make it even more fucking public and argue through court docs and calculated pr moves. it’s 2023. have we really not learned that we don’t know celebs at all? with all the predator/abuser reveals lately, saying you’re “team Sophie” just because you liked her character on got is fucking insane. there are no sides. it’s a couple’s fucking divorce. all these damn twitter/tiktok accounts getting into it like it’s their morning tea at the office after a long weekend are fucking sick and fueling these disgusting and pointless pr stunts. we don’t know these people and there are actual children involved. grow the fuck up.

[fictionaltrvlr]

Mr Perfectly Fine 2.0

[chappellrroan]

some of these men should never be allowed to be a husband or a father

[alpha-mag-media]

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[bestofsophieturner]

I am glad that at least some press has a conscience and does not conduct a smear campaign against Sophie for money. Although it is still a shame to see so much untruth and hate towards Sophie. Especially since she suffered from something similar when she was younger and Joe knew it and still does it all. Shame on him. She deserves all the best in this world, she is a wonderful person. I hope there will be nothing new.

I'm glad almost nobody agree with this mean narrative. Maybe it's the reason the "sources" are not talking right now... I mean, at first we got at least three ou four different articles painting Sophie as the bad one in the relationship. They probably realised it's not working. Or at least, I hope.

Even if Sophie is getting support, those articles are very bad for her mental health. Imagine getting a divorce and everyday, for almost a week, you are painting as a demon in the press.

And it's also bad for Joe in the sense all those articles are working against him in the end. Many details from his past (and ugly ones) resurfaced...

So it would be better for everyone if nothing is being said in the next days. I don't care about Joe, but if they were trying to make him look as a good guy in the press, it's definitely not working.

I hope Sophie will be fine, and that we will not hear more about her divorce. But I'm kind of scared it's not going to happen. It's a celebrity divorce after all...

[thecoffeeloverbutterfly90]

Is it just me, or...

When, Sophie was out with Taylor and friends (like, when they have dinner two-gether and when she was spotted, with her & friends at a match of Travis - Tay's new beau - at a stadium) there was a lot of fuss, about the kids wellbeing & whereabouts.

Now...

When, Joe is out partying on the shores of Miami, with friends, a beer and a blondie in bikini... There's literally, nothing from people abt the kids wellbeing & other stuff.

I'm not a fan of Daily Mail, but they are the ones who spotted him on a yacht, with a beverage & a blonde, bikini clad lady. The same Joe who's "support system" was blamed Sophie for, being what she isn't. Cuz, she said many times that, she's a homebody, while Joe not. Well, when Sophie is out with friends - especially, Taylor aka one of Joe's exes - people, went wild and literally momshamed her. While, Willa and Delphine were with Joe at tour, wait what? Honestly, I'm more concerned for their wellbeing, at tour with Dad. Especially, because their age - Willa is 3, while Delphine is 1. - they should be, with some more responsible parent, than the one who take them to his tour. ((I Know That There Were Family, But... Their, Mom Weren't.)) So, we does not "Dad Shame" Joe-y Boy, but Momshame someone, who was at work on set in the UK & after that dined with a friend and have some fun. Like, we are in the medieval times & moms didn't have fun till, their kids grown up, because it's so bad. No, it's not. We all need, some fun & recharge our social batteries to cope with life. Who doesn't, those should stfu. The girl, deserved it. The J-Fam are a bit of toxic, you know... Ok, whatever I said, what I said. Hope, Sophie find a tall, handsome guy who man enough to be with her, more than "Mr. Perfectly Fine". 😉

[romaniwitch]

Team, stop trashing the mother of your children to the world. A young mother who left her home and family to start a new family with you. Shame on you, Joe. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME... p.s. you're not even any good at it!

[sayruq]

Poor Sophie, now is being chased by the paparazzi all the time, either on the set (to make stupid articles later), then when she leaves the hotel, now with her daughter Willa, I'm sure it's for people to write that she's like Joe for PR, but these are completely different  situation, I am sure that Sophie is very upset that the paparazzi are chasing her and her daughter and I think this is one of the reasons why she wants her and her children to live in England.  Sophie calls the paparazzi for PR when she is with Taylor etc.  And Joe called the paparazzi when he was with the kids, and Sophie didn't and that's obvious, but it's a shame that Joe's fans will be compare, they still make excuses for him.

it's actually sucks a lot but it can help her make her case in court. That's like the only positive

[joanna-lannister]

https://twitter.com/PageSix/status/1699550608473141501?s=20

The fact that Sophie respected her children’s privacy and kept them out of the spotlight but now Joe is trotting them out as a publicity stunt to hurt and shame their mother. Disgusting.

BIG YIKES 😬

[thelonesomequeen]

I can't comment on any of that or whether or not it's true because I don't follow them that closely. 🧜🏻‍♀️ I have and it sounds like Sophie has been absent while Joe has been taking care of the kids for a long time now. Horrible. If she moves back to England, I wonder if she will try for full custody despite all that?

But is it actually true? Or is it the story that’s being sold to shame working mothers? 🧜🏻‍♀️

[dogsliampaynedoesntinstagram]

Interest in Gaylor seems to be on the rise after Taylor’s breakup, and some fans are speculating she might be preparing to CO (as what identity is another question - like with Harry there is debate over her label). Obviously Taylor has had many confirmed BFs, but I wonder if she were to CO (and I’m doubtful of that at least near term but am not the most informed) it would be simpler for her than Harry bc many of the men she’s been linked to have had speculation about their own sexuality. Harry, Tom, Jake, Joe…

However, I don’t think it’s wrong to think a key part of Taylor’s success has been her ability to make fans feel connected to her life through the her songwriting which includes referencing specific men (the red scarf, the stitches, the london boy, and so on). If she were to CO does she lose fan trust? Maybe not as some already interpret her lyrics through a queer lens and understand the concept of “stunt” songs (and she has many songs not necessarily about her or romance at all). Like you said just publicly dating a person of the same sex without giving a specific label would be the slow burn way for Harry or Taylor to CO as gay (if one or both identify that way) without completely canceling out past public relationships. Society does sadly seem to be moving backwards in some areas but there does seem to be more understanding sexuality is not a checkbox, fixed state for everyone.

I definitely don't think that the fact that there are rumours about many of the men Taylor has dated makes it simpler for her to come out. I think one of the complications of coming out, after you've publicly been linked with another celebrity, is ensuring that they are not outted to.

For Taylor, I don't think this is as much of a problem as it used to be. Joe Jonas and Jake Gyllenhaal may have sex with men, but Sophie and Joe's relationship is pretty persuasive, as is the collective impact of Red Taylor's version on Jake's image and life. But I definitely don't think it makes it any easier.

In terms of coming out, I do think that if Taylor has been attracted to women and she wanted to share that, she could probably do quite an amazing job of retelling her story so that people experienced it as an expansion of what she had already shared. It is her super power. See how people are so quickly recasting her and Joe's relationship.

Emotions around shame and having to keep stuff secret are very relatable - I think Taylor could write about being confused about her feelings, feeling like she had to hide them, and even revealing specific songs are about women in a way that brought people in. It also helps that Scott Borchetta sits there as a very easy villain who would only need to be gestured at.

I don't think it's useful to understand publicly dating someone of the same sex as a slow burn way of coming out. It's coming out - it's just coming out in a different way. Coming out does not have to mean revealing all previous relationships were fake (and it doesn't mean that all previous relationships were fake) and I think it's really useful to distinguish between the two. At the moment, celebrities just don't reveal previous relationships are fake, unless they happened years before. I think it's useful to take that as a starting point, rather than assuming coming out involves revealing previous relationships are fake.

[tea-with-evan-and-me]

“yeah, and their youngest is only like a year old i think? that has to be an extremely traumatic experience :/“

And the way Joe is trying to shame her and paint her as a bad parent because he’s having affairs right and left??? Absolutely not!!! Sophie was watching their kids and caring for them on her own for months before she got a new acting job. She put her career on hold for him. She started dating him when she was a teen and got married so young. And now he wants praise for parenting his children like a father should? Not on my watch Joe, not on my watch!

you better tell these folks, anon! men think they deserve a round of applause for showing up as a dad for a few odd hours out of each day.. won't be getting it from me.

[alpha-mag-media]

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[bestofsophieturner]

I honestly don't understand why someone can hate Sophie for the last interview. Probably, there are really only toxic people on Twitter and it is time to close this damn twitter/x, there is zero benefit from it.

Some Joe's fans just hate Sophie. They'll find any reason. They're criticizing Sophie for her friendship with Taylor Swift, for saying her first pregnancy was unexpected, for talking about the divorce or the way the medias were shaming her... I believe they're envious she's getting a big interview/cover and not Joe. They're also saying she's not popular enough to be on Vogue. They probably don't even know Sophie always had a good relationship with Vogue... and then they claim they know her better than us...