#shakespeare destiel parallels

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Supernatural - 5.3 Free to Be You and Me (2009) Shakespeare in Love (1998)

[shakespeareintellectualbadass]

@dailydestieldose and @casismymrdarcy have got me on a roll with Shakespeare destiel parallels so here's another one:

Beatrice & Benedick and Dean & Cas

In Much Ado About Nothing, Beatrice and Benedick spend 99% of their time bantering and bickering and generally pulling each other's pigtails but with an undercurrent of real hurt. They have a lot of mutual friends, they move in the same circle, and despite having just spent some time apart (the men were all off at war) they immediately go right back to bickering. And they seem to know exactly what to say to push each others buttons - they know each other reeeaaally well.

And that's the thing!! They're exes!! They have history!! Something romantic happened between them in the past, and then something went wrong. The divorce arc parallels! But they have to be around each other because they have all these mutual friends - mutual friends who decide they're going to trick them into falling in love with each other. Their friend group splits in half, and they stage conversations for Beatrice and Benedick to overhear in which they loudly proclaim that the other is in love with them (side note: these are some of the funniest scenes in the play, I highly recommend David Tennant as Benedick, it goes on and off youtube but if it's up he's top notch in that scene. Equally, Kenny Leon's 2016 production of the play for Shakespeare in the Park is fucking stellar. It used to be on PBS but if you can find it anywhere it is Thee Much Ado).

And both Beatrice and Benedick, the moment they hear the other is in love with them, go "oh they love me! well guess I'd better love them back! I'm gonna love them back with my whole fucking soul."

"Love me! Why, it must be requited. I hear how I am censured: they say I will bear myself proudly, if I perceive the love come from her; they say too that she will rather die than give any sign of affection. I did never think to marry: I must not seem proud: happy are they that hear their detractions and can put them to mending. They say the lady is fair; tis a truth, I can bear them witness; and virtuous; tis so, i cannot reprove it; and wise, but for loving me; by my troth, it is no addition to her wit, nor no great argument of her folly, for I will be horribly in love with her. I may chance have some odd quirks and remnants of wit broken on me, because I have railed so long against marriage: but doth not the appetite alter? a man loves the meat in his youth that he cannot endure in his age. Shall quips and sentences and these paper bullets of the brain awe a man from the career of his humor? No, the world must be peopled. When I said I would die a bachelor, I did not think I should live till I were married."

"My friends think if I find out she loves me I'll lord it over her", "she would rather die than give any sign she loves me" (literally Cas), "I've never expected I'd get married", the fucking LIST of "beautiful and good and wise, except for falling in love with me cuz I'm not good enough for her", "I already love her back so much", "I'm gonna get a lot of shit when my friends see me in love buuuut it's worth it for her" - try and tell me these aren't Dean about Cas.

Benedick never really shuts up - he's a talkative guy (much like Dean), and once he gets started about how great Beatrice is he is really on a roll. He loves so strongly and completely (and he doesn't have Dean's self worth issues) so he jumps right to being all in.

Beatrice's reaction is, in fact, an incomplete sonnet (sonnets are Thee language of love in Shakespeare; they're 14 line poems with a specific rhyme scheme that are in iambic pentameter, which we think of as Shakespeare's signature style - 10 syllables in a line, divided into sets of 2, the first unstressed and the second stressed). It is also one of the only times she speaks in verse (poetry) rather than prose (like a novel) during the play - this is important because people in Shakespeare's plays speak in verse during significant moments or very emotional moments.

What fire is in mine ears? Can this be true?

Stand I condemn'd for pride and scorn so much?

Contempt, farewell! and maiden pride, adieu!

No glory lives behind the back of such.

And, Benedick, love on; I will requite thee,

Taming my wild heart to thy loving hand:

If thou dost love, my kindness shall incite thee

To bind our loves up in a holy band;

For others say thou dost deserve, and I

Believe it better than reportingly.

"The idea he's in love with me too has shocked me to my core", "I will never again be too proud or petty to admit I love him", "please please keep loving me, because I love you too", "I have been a wild untameable thing, but for you I'll be happy to stay at home and live a simple life", "we aren't even together yet but please marry me", "you're the best man I know" - hi this is Thee Castiel about Dean Winchester.

Beatrice is a very independent woman; especially for the time the play is written, she's still single at an age when most women were already married, and she refuses to marry because she loves her independence and doesn't want just anyone to tie her down. Until she learns Benedick loves her, she never expects to find anyone who will make her want to settle down. Benedick is much the same - he plans to live and die a bachelor.

Aaaand then they learn they're both head over heels for each other, and suddenly there's a whole lot more they want out of life. Suddenly all the stuff in their past, all the things that drove them apart, it all doesn't matter in the face of their love for each other.

In conclusion:

Banter as expressions of affection and also to cover up hurt over something that happened to drive them apart

The love for each other didn't go away though they're both just feeling unloved and lashing out

They always come back to each other, even if it takes a little outside interference

This has been another Shakespeare destiel parallel, thank you and goodnight

[shakespeareintellectualbadass]

Okay. okay. The Romeo and Juliet imagery is too much for me, I have to talk about it because I'm going insane. Forgive me for jumps in thought, I'm writing on the spot.

In the balcony scene in R&J, Romeo is hiding in the gardens of the capulet's house and Juliet is up on her balcony. She confesses her love for him out into the air, thinking she's alone, and he startles her by revealing himself and reciprocating. They then spend ten minutes bantering and flirting and earnestly confessing their love (we'll ignore that they just met - though actually the juxtaposition of their meeting against Dean and Cas's meeting and then Cas's love confession after twelve years of close friendship and going through hell together...okay I'm going insane).

Despite endless film and theatre productions, Romeo never actually climbs up the balcony in the text. The entire scene they're twenty feet apart, gazing at each other completely head over heels but unable to touch. All their initial declarations of love, they're all from a fixed distance. But they've already kissed at the Capulet's party, so that physical distance isn't a permanent barrier. What it IS is space that allows them to fully admire each other, to get caught up in the full picture of each other.

Dean and Cas are able to get close to each other emotionally - they fight for it the whole time, Chuck and death and everything else just cant stop them - where Romeo and Juliet are kept apart by feuding families. But Romeo and Juliet break the physical distance in a way Dean and Cas arent able to. Chuck/the narrative tries his best to break them apart emotionally with all the contrived hurdles he comes up with, and he does keep them from confessing (if you agree that he's messing with at least Dean's ability to communicate, not to mention all of Cas's lobotomies; equally the network acting as Chuck) but he fails to keep them from loving each other and being best friends and sacrificing for each other, so he keeps them separate physically. Dean and Cas break the physical distance in all their friendly pats on the shoulder, and they start to push it with the hugs and the face cradling in moments of near-death or returning from death, but they never truly overcome the space between them by being able to reciprocate and be openly physically affectionate in a way that matches their feelings. The closest they get is Cas touching Dean in 15x18, the hand on the same shoulder where they first touched. That first touch could've been the beginning that allowed them to come close, but Chuck was still in charge and Cas was only in the beginnings of falling for Dean and inventing free will (depending on when you think that started). And that last one, with Cas being sucked into the empty, Dean was never able to reciprocate. Cas starts to bridge that distance and is yanked away before Dean can meet him.

Insane that Dean and Cas each play both Romeo and Juliet. They each have a turn being the one gazing up to the beloved and being the one gazed upon. But Cas being gazed upon gazes back, where Dean being gazed upon is unaware (narrative interference again?). And through all of this, they can't speak their love. Despite being in the same imagery as Romeo and Juliet, they are unable to speak, to say what they feel, to be honest with each other. As in Romeo and Juliet, miscommunication and outside hatred destroy them, and the death of one turns the other suicidal and leads to their death (TRY and tell me Dean didnt let himself get sloppy because he wanted to die and see Cas again in his happy memories). Fascinating that Cas is aware of being in both Romeo and Juliet's position - except in neither case does he recognize that being seen equals being loved. He sees Dean gazing up at him and gazes back; he willingly goes to his death because the loss of his beloved is too much to bear (though Romeo kills himself bc he thinks Juliet is already dead and Cas does to save Dean's life). In neither case does he recognize Dean's love for him. Dean however can't see the roles they're in at all, but with Cas's confession he becomes able to see Cas's love for him (and his own for Cas).

I dont know where I'm going with this but I have A Lot of thoughts

if deancas no canon then why longingly gaze at eachother when far away? hmm?

[spaceandfiction]

Cas… is maybe??? “In denial” until like s9? But not about his feelings just about them being romantic. He’s like oh I am shattered at the altar oh I am weeping at the divinity of his feet as they stomp on my chest oh I am rising in a passionate arc in the sky which will inevitably cause me to burn out as I am the comet so I crash to his earth… but I’ve not really engaged with human art yet so I have no idea I am feeling what the poets call “love” that’s just how angels treat their God

[bisexualdeanapologist]

IM SO UNWELL

[mishastoesies]

at first when you said that your machete is named helena for some reason I thought that was a shakespeare character and I didn't question it at all because you don't strike me as the shakespeare reading type but I thought you might think it would be funny to name your machete after one of shakespeare's evil woman characters. I don't even know if he wrote a character named helena. fuck am I thinking of hamlet

tony i KNOW this is you!!! and unfortunately you are wrong i AM in fact a pretentious bitch that reads shakespeare (ask me about my destiel-othello parallels). helena is named after an MCR song because i think gerard way would love that and also her handle is red and black which matches MCR’s aesthetic.

i think you’re thinking of hamlet fjsdkg i don’t remember a helena in any of the plays i read

[shakespeareintellectualbadass]

Okay bestie here we go <3

I got on a roll this weekend so here's the Romeo and Juliet parallels that sent me down this rabbit hole

And here's the parallels with Beatrice and Benedick from Much Ado About Nothing that I realized at work and spent a good two hours working on in between Actual Job Tasks

Thats all so far but knowing me I Will write more Shakespeare destiel parallel essays so

I am not funny on purpose but I did link him directly to my own tumblr essay so apparently I'm both stupid and brave

excuse me but where is the essay I too want to read it

dont save ALL the good stuff for the overlord, drop a girl the link

send misha texts game

[dimples-of-discontent]

Can I interest anyone in some Paradise Lost?

Hello my friends,

I assume that everyone is in the mood to read a long post I wrote TWO YEARS AGO about how SPN was retelling the love story (Adam and Eve) at the center of John Milton’s 17th-century epic poem “Paradise Lost”? Yes! Of course you are!

“An Epic Love Story: Paradise Lost and Destiel”

I was prompted by @huckleberryofthelord​‘s post saying “can we talk about how there is no other story reason to have Adam (the beginning of humanity) in love with an angel, if not to parallel Dean (the manifestation of humanity) being in love with an angel <3″ to remember that I wrote this.

It’s not precisely the same, but at the apex of the story (The Fall) Eve is human and Adam is not and he must choose whether to remain divine (in the garden, ageless, deathless, in conversation with God and angels) or remain with the human he loves. Except it’s not even a struggle. The second he sees her returning, the decision is made because he loves her. He drops this garland he’s been weaving for her while waiting on the ground “and all the faded roses shed.” Before that, there was no death in the garden, not even flowers. They’re both lost, and so is paradise.

The genius of the poem and the reason it’s my favorite thing to teach (even though my PhD is in Shakespeare and that’s pretty great) is that you WANT them both to fall to stay together, even though it’s “wrong” in the sense that it goes against God’s will. Because it’s a better story. Plus, you’re fallen! You get it! And you got here because of their free will--their ability to choose to defy God and choose to remain together--so of course that’s your “team” as a reader. (It’s possible that you’re supposed to learn a lesson from this about how naughty and bad you are but, honestly, no one does so sorry Milton.)

I’ve said since Day One that someone on the SPN staff likes this epic poem. I wrote that post in 2018, after Dean’s grief arc in S13, and it’s only gotten more  true. So check it out if you want and if anyone decides to read this 400-year-old epic poem lmk because I’m not in the classroom at my current job and I miss it a whole heckin’ lot.

<3 bex

[profoundchaoscomputer]

Becky as chuck and marie as amara. Becky is creation and raw emotion. Marie is decontruction and thoughtfulness.

Both part of a whole, just like the mirror of the duality thats always present on the show. chuck and amara, michael and lucifer, cain and abel, mary and john, dean and sam, becky and marie.

Becky as the text and marie as the subtext.

Just like the show we are a mirror of it on itself. Unparalleled experience of THEE show.

Lemme explain. (Destiel endgame warning btw haha)

Becky is the kind of gut feeling, full of emotions and feelings fan, she cries, she stans, she is brimming with joy when the boys succed, she is mad when the evil wins a round, she is crying rivers when things go sideways, its a wild ride for her, she gets attached to the characters.

 She makes them collages, edits, fanarts, mixtapes, fanfics, she can explain how the characters change on the silent journey just behind the books, what are the things they fear and what they love, how they percieve and yearn, what drives and shapes them.

She treasures all quotes, queen of gifs, "then why *insert a scene of the show*".

She knows all the minor characters and will fight for them, explain each of their lost potential, knows all plotholes and how to fix them. 

The fics she writes are like that too, a wild ride of emotions, heated up, pent up, clashing feelings, full of love and anger and pain and all there is to be felt, the characters are for her a way to feel catharsis, she knows the characters and their reactions like the palm of her own hand as she resonates with them. 

She dreams, of different outcomes, where characters were written ooc and thinks of what should have happened with characterization on points.

That was at least what she felt when younger. Now, after years, after addictive emotions had came to a past, she came to understand too that there is beauty in tender subtle emotions. The quiet grainy sound of grief, the soft peace of joy, the sunny melody of hope. She wants the boys to find peace, no longer the loud crashing glass of windows, guns and bones, too fast, too hard. 

She is the one writing the soft endings of daily domestic life, The daily life of healing, cas learning to make pie and dean singing jack hey jude as lullaby, seated on a sunset, fire cracking, making a future as they go; finding on the small menial stuff these little kaloidoscope of soft slow paced colors.

Marie is the kind of the brain damage time, meta, myths and book parallels fan, she goes on and on with framing and (how chuck is john, anger, light, his word is law, the writer, said take sammy and go, but then he commanded to kill abel and they didnt even cast THEE abel, they bring up colette. And there is rage, there is always rage, but cas asked dean to stop, and what broke the connection?) 

And she constructs and decontructs.

 What does the story thick? Is it the author, the audience or you? Framed to castiel but asked to the audience. She doesnt really develve on the show itself...but its the experience. Unparalleled experience. 

Lamp and flannel colors and overcompensation, gender studies, psychoanalisis, she quotes poetry, from all authors, ending with a quote from supernatural. All media is her playground, as the books are a mirror of society a la americana.

And we will always end up here so I win so I win.

Rather than sticking to the show itself, she takes the narrative and explores, curiosity, inspiration, she explores, questions and discusses, with all kinds of media, from shakespeare to freud to the bible and she takes appart the book, blakout poetry.

She writes her essays, but also fics too, always decostructing, drawing on new meanings on what we thought at first glance was, on the poeting subtle, the grand allegory on the little things.

Both of them together could explain to you all the ways the narrative could only be satisfied with dean having a soft ending. Im not a killer, I always wanted to experience new things. And sam wanted a purpoceful life. Leaving a legacy, helping, being proud of something.  And cas deserved the joy of being human, or belonging, feeling with his whole heart, proud of his son, loved by his husband, belonging and nesting, having a cat, to treasure this happiness on the having.

[espejonight28738]

15×05 "Proverbs 17:3" meta

This is mostly a Dean and Sam meta, but it has a little bit of destiel and samleen towards the end. So, you know, don't like it don't read.

This. Episode. Was. An. Early. Christmas.

For those of you who didn't read my meta on 15×03 "The rupture", I heavily recommend you to do it, for I'm continuing me theory about the future of the series from there, here.

Look, when I said that I thought the series would end with Dean and Sam getting over their toxic codependency in order to get their happy end it? I meant it, but I will admit that my foundations of actual subtext and storytelling were kinda weak (I did made all of it from one (1) dialogue from Cas). But with this episode? I have enough foundations to build the fucking Taj Mahal.

We were presented with a pair of werewolves. They were clearly presented as an (maybe kinda exagerated, I'll admit) mirror of Dean and Sam. I don't think anyone is trying to deny this, seeing as Lilith kinda confirmed it with all the 'Foreshadowing!' (I loved that line I will reference it for the rest of my life). So, I just wanna remark the most important parts of the parallel.

1) They lived isolated in the middle of the woods. Just the two of them. Not as cool as a MOL bunker, but the 'just you and me' feeling kinda sticks anyway.

2) They lie to each other, even though it's a stupid decision for their situation. And then a shameless "I don't lie to you". I knew them for two (2) minutes but I can tell that was a lie.

3) We don't know what happened but that "Dad wouldn't want..." "Dad is dead!" Reeks of daddy issues if I ever saw any.

4) "I look out for you"/ "Watch out for Sammy"

5) Knowing your brother is doing something wrong and still be ready to kill for him (it's not even important who is who in this parallel, both Dean and Sam have been in this situation)

And finally,

6) The werewolves had the ending Chuck is planning for Dean and Sam (or at least one of the many possbilities of it).

But why is it so important that I remark all of this? I don't need to convince you. Like I said, Lilith herself told Dean (us) that this is Chuck's really shitty try at foreshadowing.

And that's the exact point I want to talk about. Shitty.

"Even you said this is stupid."

"God's not exactly Shakespeare."

They are telling us this is what Chuck likes. The unhealthy brother's relationship that ultimately ends in one brother killing the other (and maybe killing himself after it). And they are telling us this is stupid, a bad ending, and wrong.

Chuck is the biggest and most powerful villian, the Monster at the End of The Book. And honestly he's also being on of the most asshole-ish big bads.

They are really doing no attempt to make us sympatize with him.

Amara had a reason to be bitchy, with Chuck having kept ger trapped for billions of years and stuff, and in the end she became the better her.

Both Lucifer and AU!Micheal turned out to be right about God being an asshole.

Naomi had her kind of redemption, Metatron kinda did too.

The BMOL... at least they had good intentions? They did want to rid the world of monsters.

But Chuck... he is just an egocentric narcisist that doesn't care people has to suffer in order to keep him entertained. They are setting him up so we inmediatly show rejectiong for anything he wants. And he wants this.

So, what we are being told, is that the good thing is the opposit. The good thing is a healthy relationship between the brothers that allows them a Happy Ending. No death.

And as I wrote in my meta of 15×03, if we want a happy ending, we can't have a big fight between the brothers.

Because a fight so big they never talk to each other again? Okay, that would probably count as ending the codependency, but they would still get no happy ending, so that can't be where this is going. Or at least were we are supposed to want this to go.

Now, if you remember my first point in the parallel list, it was that the werewolve brothers lived alone, far from the other people, like Dean and Sam do now that Cas is gone. We need to read this as being isolated of other people, not only in a literal 'living in the middle of nowhere' way, but also in an emotional way. The reason it's important if because they are telling us the way to mess up Chuch's ending is by stop being isolated. It's by letting other people close.

And after this big statement in the chapter, what do we get in the promo of the next one?

Cas and Eileen.

Even if Cas doesn't go back to the boys yet (but please let him text Sam back, the boy is worried about his friend that's so soft. And he doesn't even know why Cas left- god, my heart aches. I know Cas and Dean's relationship still had a long way to go before they fix it, but Sam did nothing wrong! Let him get his only friend back), he is being thrown back to the narrative after the revalation that an important piece to having a happy ending is other people close to the brothers. And that's Cas.

(That besides of all the theories of Cas being the catalyst of true free will, which I'm all for and if we do get Cas having such a major rol I swear this will get in my top 3 seasons.)

And Cas could totally work for both brothers. Yet, he isn't the only one coming back. Eileen is finally coming back. And, even if she did was friend of both brothers, she was written as having a closer relationship with Sam, wasn't she?

And she, as a first of all the other girls Sam has liked, is someone who "understands the life" (God, I'm still not over that episode of s11).

Next episode they are bringing a character that has a canonically closer relationship to Sam, and a character that has a canonical and historically closer (and more... passionate, in every sense of the word) relationship with Dean. This is no conincidence.

They way to stop Chuck's ending if by the brother chosing someone else over each other. Is stopping the unhealthy codependency. Is not killing each other. And, that way, getting their happy ending.

(I mean, in a narrative and story-telling way. In a more literal way they still need to find a way to kick Chuck's ass).

I feel the need to say that I wrote this after staring like 1 hour at the promo of 15×06 Golden Time, but even then I can be wrong when saying the girl in the bath tube is my girl Eileen... in that case, this last part of the meta won't exactly age well, but I'm still certain of the rest, so I'll take the risk of making a fool of myself.

Tagging: @metafest @legendary-destiel @agusvedder @verobatto-angelxhunter @cloverhighfive @itwillalwaysbedestiel bc I think you guys liked the first part of this theory

[tinkdw]

What are your favorite Disney/destiel parallels?

ALL OF THEM.

Seriously every Disney movie is a Destiel AU in some way. But my fave are Beauty and the Beast and Eric/Ariel because they’re standard supernatural being becomes more human and happy thanks to the other even though thats what they wanted all along, they needed that person as the catalyst, they helped them get to the endgame they wanted all along, and Hercules/Meg because COULD MEG BE ANY MORE OF A DEAN?

SPN uses ALL the established most obvious tropes.

Thats why I have the tags spn x disney, dean is a disney princess, tropes tropes everywhere and narrative parallels and tropes are a thing.

It’s also every other romantic story, Shakespeare, ancient greek mythology, Jane Austen….

ALL THE ROMANCE STORIES.

There’s a reason we read it as romantic - we are taught from an early age through Disney then throughout school and into adulthood through the classics then tv, movies… that these are the things to notice and see as romantic:

Enemies to lovers, flirty facial expressions, flirty banter, old married couple bickering, a person close to them having bitch faces whenever they bicker or do something blatantly romantic, calling them out on it (so are you gonna talk to….?), other people assuming or teasing that they’re a couple (he’s your boyfriend), awkward gift giving (e.g. mixtape), camera pans from the feet upwards with the other having an “omg theyre so pretty/sexy” look on their face, sacrificing yourself for the other, other people saying they like each other and stony, harsh faces back or awkward looks away, telling one that the other is dead and seeing them CRUMBLE….

etc etc etc I mean this is just a handful I remember off the top of my head and LOOK AT THEM.

LOOK AT ALL THE FUCKING TROPES.

[shakespeareintellectualbadass]

Hey, it's me again, ready to lose my mind over Antonio and Bassanio and the spn parallels XD.

I mean, I think there's an obvious overlapping between them and Destiel when it comes to the general relationship dynamic. One of them (Antonio/Cas) is the "lover", the one who would give anything for the other, including their life; the other (Bassanio/Dean) is the "beloved", the one who is mostly (in Destiel's case, definitely not always, but mostly) on the receiving end of all the grand gestures, but who would give anything for the other nonetheless. I mean, when Bassanio receives the letter where Antonio tells him he's going to die and he immediately leaves Belmont and his freshly-married spouse? That's sooo powerful. Not to mention the ending with Portia giving the ring back to her husband through Antonio. LIKE. WHAT THE HELL. (And how easily Bassanio gives the ring away in the first place, just because Antonio wanted him to...)

And I think on many levels Dean and Cas are the same. Castiel is objectively the one who bleeds the most for the other (and "blood" is an important word here), but Dean is equally gone for him. I think that if the show had decided to give him a female interest in the end, the dynamic would have been really similar to the Antonio/Bassanio/Portia situation.

I'm sorry for this mess of a message, but I just love hunting for useless meaningless parallels in media XD.

Shakespeare destiel anon my beloved <3 never apologize I love a good messy ramble about literary/media analysis

I think you're exactly right in the lover vs beloved parallels, with Cas/Antonio having the more dramatic gestures of love but Dean/Bassanio loving them just as strongly (the latter's gestures are usually quieter but intense, done without a second thought - giving the ring, keeping the trenchcoat, leaving the new spouse, searching purgatory for a year, etc - as opposed to big things like offers of blood and life the former tend to favor).

ALSO Antonio and Sebastian in Twelfth Night fit this parallel too - this Antonio follows Sebastian to Ilyria knowing it will mean his death if he is caught because he loves Sebastian too much to not follow him. Sounds pretty familiar. And when Sebastian marries Olivia (who he barely knows and whose side he leaves the moment Antonio arrives on stage), she aligns with Portia and the female love interest they could've chosen to give Dean for the finale.

Oh anon your mind!!

[tinkdw]

If you look at their relationship in the generic storytelling terms, their relationship is set out to be romantic (ik this is what you've been saying for so long). It sounds like the typical romance you'd see in a movie. E.g. "An outsider meets a mortal and falls in love"

2nd anon: I was watching Thor and had an epiphany; so Thor is sent to earth where he meets a human and over the course of the movie you can see this relationship form. In the end he battles his brother (another being from a different place) and protects her by risking his life (?). And all I could think of is Dean and Cas. Bonus: in the comics (I think?) Odin forbids Thor from marrying her because of her mortality. There’s so much more but I don’t have enough characters lmao.

Yeah, this is the standard romantic trope of writing :D

I wrote about it here, because I was predicting a climactic separation as the “black moment” or “break up point” in the season 12 finale *so happy* because of this standard way of writing romance stories… but others who have a real writing background can go into it in more detail, I just love stories so I like to look into it! It’s kind of like the point where Lizzy Bennet and Mr Darcy “break up” and they both have to go away and learn things about themselves before they can get together in the end finally happily fully themselves and the best version of how who they can be, having led each other to that point… to that self realisation and self acceptance 

*yes this is everything we want and are getting from the Destiel storyline for both Dean and Cas’ personal arcs as their personal arcs are so intertwined with themes around each other like faith, humanity, belonging, family, self worth and allowing yourself to be loved, thinking you deserve to be saved, wow, what a coincidence*

This is a separate chart that tracks the personal character arc in relation to the romance arc over time and my personal interpretation of how this leads them to their personal happy endgame (Cas in blue and Dean in green of course). 

Note how Dean is already in a much better place at the Break up Point than Cas, because, although I made this chart before 12x22 I thought he would get this, but post 12x22 to be honest I would put his feelings a little higher here but hey it’s more or less right to me, he still has a little way left to go, which we will see over s13 textually developing. Cas has much farther to come as he is at a really low point by the time of his death, having not learned his lesson of belonging or self worth yet, he’s kind of at the point of 10x22 Dean, so he needs his s11/12 arc now moving forwards:

So yeah, I see us moving into Act 3 which massively fits with the overall timeline of SPN anyway but makes perfect sense for the Destiel storyline, I mean, the title of “winning him back” even fits perfectly with the story they are currently telling…

Basically it’s a standard storyline and there’s a reason why pretty much every movie we see, tv show we watch, love song we hear or book that we read that has a romance story easily reminds us of Dean and Cas, even more so when it is an interracial / intercultural / interspecies supernatural relationship!

I’m just thinking of basically ALL the Disney movies as such: Beauty and the Beast is the best because there’s a whole Humanity/lost childhood thing too, but also Little Mermaid, Hercules (Dean is SUCH a Meg), Thor, I’m assuming theres loads of Wonder Woman parallels too but perhaps more subtle as they seem to have not gone so hell for leather on the standard tropes or tried to subvert some in the name of non-misogny, idk, I havent seen it yet. But yeah, all the typical romances, I’ve even paralleled Dean/Cas to flipping Shakespeare and Moliere, because it is STANDARD ROMANTIC STORYTELLING!

You just have to look at how they parallel them to romantic couples within the same freaking show…and never actually brothers. 

The whole Jesse/Cesar thing (how Jesse was SUCH a mirror for Dean and Cesar was SUCH a mirror for Cas, I laughed when I first saw it, how Dean got on so well with Cesar and kind of awkwardly with Jesse, how Jesse and Cesar interacted in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS DEAN AND CAS), how they made it clear that although some might THINK they were brothers, they were a romantic couple, and it was hilariously blatant, just 3 episodes before Dean called Cas a brother... it was supposed to be big neon *THIS IS WRONG* sign right in front of our faces.

I’m not going to list all the canon romantic couples in SPN they've been mirrored with again as I seem to get into this too often, but wow, they’re just not even subtle about it, but this was one of my favourites, because of the timing...ahhh. Dabb strikes again ;)

So yeah, there’s a reason why we see it everywhere and why I believe it is purposefully told as a romantic story :D

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Hi Tink ! 😆 You have a new french fan now ! I'm litterally a french girl lol But now it's the time for the question : I think Destiel is the greatest love story ever, because there are so many feels (but there are death, pain, death and DEATH too). And you ? Do you think like me ? What's your arguments ? I'm curious. (I'm so sooooo sorry for my bad English. I understand English, but it's a little hard to me to write and speak it.)

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As for my arguments for Destiel… I mean basically this is my whole blog :D

If I had to pick 3 though:

1. Destiel is consistently and purposefully written into the script with STANDARD ROMANCE TROPES that are recognisable from any range of romantic stories, from Shakespeare to Disney, and even shows written by the same writers or on the same network (look at Timeless, who in the episode that MISHA starred in, that they knew SPN fans would watch, purposefully wrote an “I need you” between the canon romantic couple, sheesh). 

They even heavily and consistently parallel them with romantic couples/ unrequited love WITHIN THE SAME SHOW! 

most blatantly: Jess/Sam, Mary/John 

but also  Bobby/Karen, Cain/Colette, Don/Maggie, David/Violet, Dean/Cassie, Chronos/Lila, Cacao/Betsy, Jesse/Cesar, Jeffery/his demon, Sam/Amelia, Benny/Andrea, Prometheus/Hayley, Dean/Amara, Ishim/Lily. Gavin/Fiona…

let’s not forget right now: Corbin/Michelle “I just watched the man I love die, there’s no normal after that…”

2. The Dean / Cas chemistry, see this post in which I explain how Jensen and Misha do not have the same chemistry when they are not playing standard Dean or Cas, therefore it is on purpose when it IS Dean and Cas.

3. It is the most beautiful and long drawn out love story that I can think of in fiction…. ever. I mean, yes there are amazing books and movies, but they don’t take 14 years to read. There are great stories that build romance but few of them give such insight into the characters as this show has, giving them so many reasons not to love each there, but they still do, so many obstacles and so many reasons why they ARE each other’s perfect partner, how they complement each other so well, how they aid each other’s own endgames so perfectly and are so well written that it is almost funny how subtle yet how blatant it is and how some people can’t see it just because they are two guys… I mean its funny but it’s also sad that heteronormativity can blind some people to this beautiful story, because that is exactly how I see it, genuinely the most beautiful love story I know, and I read a LOT of books and watch a LOT of tv and movies…

So yeah, those are my three main reasons why I ship Destiel.

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I was wathcing Pretty little Liars and there's this girl called Alison that, at the begining, is all bitchy and mean but then it's revealed that she uses this facade to hide she's broken inside and bisexual (which she represses for years until she falls in love with a friend). I can't stop finding Bi!Dean and destiel parallels everywhere, help!

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Don't worry you’re not fully down the bottom of the pit until you laugh out loud at the movies when Belle tells Beast “let’s go home” or re-watch the sob fest that is Brokeback Mountain just cos someone *cough* @margarittet made you do it to see the parallels and you feel like you just watched a Brokeback tribute act in season 12...

Actually @margarittet and I were just talking about how literally every Disney movie is so easily relatable to Destiel, that sometimes it’s funny just how blatant it is. The familial/belonging side with Lilo and Stitch, the helping to pursue your own adventure and endgame with Moana, then of course all the romantic ones which are WAY clearer... there’s a reason we ship them, they use all the standard tropes and Disney is a great way to see these as they are so OBVIOUS in Disney because of the nature of the type of stories they are, for kids, they are so much less subtle, so there’s a reason why we can relate everything Romantic and Disney to Destiel.

Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid... The Immortal who chooses a Human life and alongside that, their lover, the Human making the Immortal more “Human” and finding their Humanity, making them happier. Even Hercules which doesn't follow this exact structure still has ALL the blatant Hercules/Meg Cas/Dean parallels. Generally all the will-they-wont-they moments that are so mirrored, the structure of the story (setting up their endgame first, then meeting, falling in love, generally reluctantly, breaking up for some “supernatural” reason and then reconciling right at the end...).

Which is why its not only Disney but everything else, other TV shows, all the way to the classic Greek mythologies, Shakespeare lol, it sounds ridiculous but they are so relatable...

Yeah, I struggle to see how so many well known romantic stories are exact mirrors of Dean and Cas’ relationship and then how theirs can be platonic. Especially with all the additional subtext of the way they act around each other, the chemistry, the extra added tropes like the bickering, the mixtape, the “always choosing them”, “did it for one Human”, “he’s in love with Humanity” etc etc.

If 1+1+1+1+1 = 5, then the answer is usually 5 ;)