#send me your hot phan takes that would scare twitter users

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they’ve been so quiet because they’re planning the wedding

Counterpoint: they are planning the dastardly deeds they will pull on 19th October 2024 at the When We Were Young Festival in Las Vegas

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I think it’s chill to speculate about them in like basically every way as long as you’re not encroaching on them by like tagging them or doxxing them or asking them about stuff. They’ve said it’s fine for years

Yep this basically sums up my entire opinion on this, thanks anon

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Some of the twitter nonsense takes are just homophobia with extra steps.

You are absolutely right. It's just double standards for gay couples vs straight couples but this time it's coming from queer kids who grew up in conservative societies but decided they don't need to unlearn conservative views because they're queer and that makes them immune to homophobia so now the rest of us have to deal with their "takes".

If you're reading this as a young queer person: do not ever assume you cannot be homophobic or misogynistic or queerphobic because "I'm literally a lesbian" or whatever. We ALL have had to unlearn this shit. Stay vigilant, stay chill ✌🏻❤️

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twt phannies said its weird to assume they needed money and thats why they revived the gaming channel

but i kinda really think so and its also maybe the reason why we got like 40 videos in 3 months

Controversial take of the year: people do their jobs for money

Look, we all have to be practical in life eventually. It doesn't have to mean they're doing it out of compulsion or absolutely hate it. They got to have separate content and find themselves and come out and see what their public life is like post-coming out, and I think this was a great time for them to be able to do joint projects on their own terms. I feel like it was always going to come back, yk, this really is their most profitable venture but now they get to explore all the opportunities in a real and genuine way and that's a good thing!!

Also I think the 40 videos thing is in part due to the fact that they cannot half-ass things and I'm sure with something this big they had wanted a proper plan ahead of time and that's why we had this much content. And also because like, when you actually commit to doing something Properly and know that there's an algorithm dictating how well you do you're gonna dedicate some sort of regular content to the project. Again, this is very usual stuff for creators of all kinds, we aren't demeaning their passion for the project whatsoever. If anything, I am very invested in their financial well being because that's what allows them to do a creative job in the first place. Creatives out there know what's true, it's an awful awful job market

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they love each other lol

Hot take of the century: people who refuse to leave each other's company for than a couple of weeks and cannot stop casually each other and call each other soulmates might be... in love?? 😳😳

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at this rate twt wil cancel dnp themselves soon for being too invasive of their own privacy

I'm literally saying, this isn't even that wild, twitter people have pulled shit like this before when they realise their idols don't agree with them. BREAK 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 PEDESTALS 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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I love reading phanfic including smut and i think it’s fine. I think also people can have a preference on who tops in fic because it is FICTIONAL like I don’t think anyone is reading smut thinking it’s written by the fbi agents in the phouse

I agree people should stfu over that discourse irl because that’s involving real people but if it’s fictional who cares

Once it's fiction there's no holds barred lol do whatever the fuck man. That's what tags and warnings are for, people who see those and still go into shit they know isn't for them are hurting themselves and blaming it on others

And yeah if we're talking super seriously, some couples have preferences for topping/bottoming, many couples just switch, these aren't proper roles and it's most certainly not something you can tell by just looking at people. But if you're talking in fic who the hell cares, that's just about exploring a dynamic. I've read Stony fic with Top Steve and Bottom Steve both and enjoyed it both ways immensely (not a top ship for me but a more popular one). It's literally just like playing with dolls

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Hot take: The 2009 timeline and drug deal doc are COOL and FINE actually.

Documentation is fine I think, it's all about having the understanding that if there's stuff they don't wanna bring up we don't throw it at their faces and also if there's information not willingly given we don't go digging into private info to get it 🤷🏻

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I think at this point, they could get legally married and some people would still argue if they’re together romantically or not. The cognitive dissonance is strong with some people lol

Us circa 2027 explaining to Twitter phannies that DnP got married and them going "They did it for business reasons" or some shit

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something ig is a bit of a hot take (maybe not on twt tho) is the whole people speculating about dan’s gender. it all just feels a bit off because i sort of think of it as his whole sexuality journey and how people were so onto him. he has said that he is comfortable as a man but obviously if that were to change it would be fine and we would be accepting.

as well as saying phil is autistic or neurodivergent based on some behaviours and videos. he has not stated it so we don’t know but if he came out and said he was it would all be fine. i just feel weird about the whole speculating aspect of it.

It's fine to not want to engage with particular kinds of fandom activities, you can always curate your experience so that you don't see people posting that

It's odd that you throw this at me though, who has a whole autism tag for keeping track of these instances where Phil does things that make autistic me feel represented

No one is pressuring them, no one is tagging them, this is just what marginalised people are Like when we see kindred spirits and go all Leonardo DiCaprio pointing meme at them. We aren't trying to get personal info from them, nor are we trying to spread misinformation about them. It is something of interest to me though that when people try to shut down speculation because 'we shouldn't assume', they don't realise that you are taking being cis and being allistic and otherwise neurotypical as the 'normal' there. "They haven't said they are trans so you should assume they are cis" "They haven't said they're gay so we shouldn't assume they are" what should we assume in these scenarios? That they are the 'normal thing to be'? Because people are hardly ever uncomfortable about speculation when it's shit like 'maybe they like cats more than dogs' 'do you think this celebrity is gonna marry his girlfriend this year? I think he is' etc etc it's somehow always only when marginalised people are like 'ooh I really relate to those experiences and went through that phase of discovery, wonder if they are also a part of this group' that people start being uncomfortable. Which is like. Honestly, genuinely, betraying some internalised queerphobia and ableism.

If you have your reasons for it good for you, yk, you can learn to make it so you don't see shit that makes you uncomfortable. It's just v weird to go to marginalised people of that group to say 'hey it made me uncomfortable that you even suggested that someone might be like you'. Yeah we know, we hear that like. All the time. Lol.

This askbwasn't worded very hostile so I'm taking in good faith and assuming you just didn't think about it this way before, so like. Anon if you see this please do a bit of introspection about this. We are tired of having our identities treated like they're radioactive

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I think Dan and Phil kiss. on the MOUTH

😮😮😮 anon! for shame! have some decency 🫢🫢🫢 oh god someone's gonna hear you 🤫

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Saying "I don't ship phan" is rlly funny in 2023 bc its the equivalent of like. "i think they should get divorced."

like they have a house together dude lmfao

not that shipping phan makes much sense either. like, do we "ship" our parents if we want them to stay together? that's also weird idk

Shipping in the way it's used in fandoms happens with like, "canon" ships too (where canon is a thing), so really it's less about "I want these people to get together" and more about "this relationship dynamic is something I want to explore/talk about" (hence ships that are also darker in nature, just to be able to explore a particular kind of story)

I think shipping is an activity that involves writing fic making art and talking with people about a pairing (or a polycule or a platonic dynamic), to sum it up.

But yeah going "I don't ship Phan" is like...

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I dont think they'll ever have kids, nor do I think they really want them

Actually with you on this, there's a lot more to having kids than whether you're good at caring for someone

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Hot take : it is completely morally neutral to speculate or think that a celebrity is gay, because being gay is not an insult.

Louder for the people in the back!!!

If you aren't directly harassing people over it or invading their private space it literally doesn't matter, and seeing speculation as particularly harmful when it relates to queer identities (this includes the gender jokes) is just betraying a particular kind of bias that people never unlearned. It's like those people who claimed to be "cool with it" but if anyone so much as suggested that they could be anything but cishet they would get defensive and lash out often saying homophobic shit because they hate being associated with 'gayness' or 'transness'. And somewhere we all imbibed that attitude growing up and need to actively work on unlearning it

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I think the speculations about gender are so different than about sexuality because he's never expressed discomfort with it. Like, when someone says they're straight or attracted to women it's because they either are or they want people to believe it. He hasn't proje ted the same message about gender and so I think talking about it is okay! Obviously assigning someone a level (or diagnosis) is different than talking about what you connect with, but the discussion is SO different than sexuality

It's certainly different, yes, Dan said he's comfortable with his identity but never did align himself with cisness for that matter and said he's fine with all pronouns (also I used to be like "yeah I don't really care about gender so whatever works" before realising how much it aligns with agender experiences)

Also may I please add here that more people who use the word "neurodivergence" actually need to engage with where that term comes from and what it means because it is in itself a rejection of the idea of pathology and 'diagnoses' wrt these neurodivergences. Read some literature by people engaged in neurodivergence movements and see the history. It's identification not diagnosis. If you wish to use the medical model instead of the neurodivergence model that's your choice I guess but when I use the term neurodivergence I do it with full understanding of the movement. There's no diagnosis over here, any more than speculations about gender are "diagnosing people with dysphoria". Because those are old oppressive ways of going about this stuff.

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hot take: the vday video is extremely cringe. like even if it didn't get leaked and didn't out them against their will, i still wouldn't want to see it. because like jeez the second hand embarrassment. like i understand they're in love or whatever but the "awrf" and the "i was so nervous so i kept biting you" or whatever phil said. like stoppppp

Lemme preface this by saying I won't be talking about V-Day vid beyond this because I have personal issues around it

I have also never watched it all the way through lol, but for privacy reasons mostly

That said, I think there's nothing more genuine than cringe. Every genuine expression of love is gonna be in the language that you have available to you at that point, it's all very private and real. Kill the part of you that cringes, love is messy when it's genuine, whether it's for a lover or a hobby or a friend or a passion project. It's always gonna be messy. That's how you know it's real