#seeing people i follow reblogging it unknowingly was more jarring
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Oookay those are OP's original tags, can we stop spreading this post? I'm not trying to dogpile OP, which is why I cut off their url, I just want people to know the context of what they're reblogging. I kept seeing it on my dash and it occured to me that people may not realize that this post was not made in defense of trans men. The idiots OP is referring to are trans men talking about the difficulty in finding men's underwear that meet their needs.
This is in the same vein as that post mocking trans men for wanting jeans made specifically with trans men's bodies in mind. That post was more obviously mocking, I don't remember the exact wording but it said something about how trans men insist they need special jeans for their beautiful curvy hips or something like that. I think people were more quick to identify that as unkind and a bad-faith interpretation, because most trans men, and especially trans men who aren't feminine, obviously do not enjoy having curvy feminine hips. And speaking from experience, it is really difficult to find jeans with a masculine fit that are both durable and can accomodate hips, especially as a fatter guy.
This drowned post is not entirely incorrect, and I think people are reblogging because the reblog chain after it has some good info on finding men's underwear that fit. But OP's purpose is to mock trans men specifically for expressing frustration with men's underwear. Not only that, but in the tags they're calling us TERFs for it. And again, from experience, it isn't as simple as you might think! Most cheap boxers are a material that doesn't have much give, so if you have thick thighs they can be really uncomfortable or downright restrict your movement. Similarly, a lot of briefs don't work for me because the leg holes are uncomfortably tight. Then there's the period issue - I saw people claim you can put pads in boxers and boxer briefs just fine, but that's certainly not anything I've been able to make work. Boxer briefs and briefs also tend to have a lot of extra material at the front that doesn't look nice unless you're packing, which I don't really care about but I can see why it would upset some people. Basically, it is totally possible to find men's underwear that work, I've done it, but it took a lot of trial and error and I've made some compromises others might not be as willing to make. And it's not like you can return underwear once you've opened the package, so there's a financial sink to the trial-and-error process.
Basically, there's been something of a trend of mocking trans men for being frustrated with men's clothing, with the idea that we think we're special because we have beautiful feminine figures we want accomodated. I don't think I need to say why I really don't care for that take. Also, I know the underwear OP is talking about, and they are overpriced! But why do you care if a trans man wants a couple pairs of underwear that fit comfortably and are convenient for both packing and wearing a pad, even if he has to pay more for them? I guarantee most men are not filling their underwear drawer with these things, and again, even if someone is, why do you care so much??
#i dont usually address this stuff because being openly asexual on tumblr in 2016 made me allergic to intracommunity discourse#but ngl it hurt my feelings to keep seeing this on my dash tbh#its another thing if i see it in the tags cause i can block and move on ya know#seeing people i follow reblogging it unknowingly was more jarring#and let me be clear i recognized this for what it was because the attitudes are prevalent enough that i saw a lot of it in the transmasc tag
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Jarring emotions (don’t reblog.) I keep thinking about how it can and does trip Dante up seeing faces and people that simply - no longer exist back home. Vergil is a prime example of this - on one hand it’s nice to see he survived ( assuming ‘he didn’t kill him in this universe’ - whatever it is that Dante will stick to as a plausible excuse reason as to why he’s alive. It rooted under the basis that he ‘failed to do the same’. )
This isn’t helped by the fact that Dante is unaware of what occurs post dmc2 and in turn - the events of dmc5. Nor is he admittedly interested in learning. Simply because it’ll just make him feel worse and - yeah, he's content with the baggage he already has without adding anymore if he can so help it.
But on the other hand he can’t really believe it’s Vergil he’s seeing. Considering how Vergil’s death by his hand’s it’s still a pretty raw wound on his heart. Due to the simple fact his animosity and disdain towards Vergil from their previous encounters ( novel / dmc3 era ) warped into that of a deep sadness and desire for revenge similar to Eva ( demons - Mundus being why he thought Vergil had died and what lead him down his path and in turn - demise. It was easier to accept that Vergil died following falling into hell rather that maybe he was still alive. Wishing deep down, that he really had died down there... )
Topping it off with the guilt he experiences for everyone else ( and the fact there’s ‘ no possible way to come back from this ‘ ) has added onto the guilt he already shouldered towards Vergil. Sometimes experiencing the fleeting feeling that ‘ least I was there ‘ which then only worsens / makes him feel terrible once more about how he wasn’t there for everyone else / couldn’t do anything about it. Never mind the fact he unknowingly killed him either - his blood was still on his hands,
He tried to convince himself that least he could do something about it / avenge him ( and eva’s death ) by defeating Mundus. He got his revenge in the end...even though it left him feeling empty / lost following it’s aftermath since now that he had gotten his revenge - what more was there for him? ( This attributed to his depression and state post dmc1, the anime. Combining this with the events of the dmc2 novel ( which before it - following the events of the anime Dante did start to get a little better ) is why Dante was the way he was in dmc2. )
His reactions in these cases are mixed - whether he’ll totally blank said person due to not being able to quite process it - and as such, being unable to handle them at this time ( aka it’ll properly result in him becoming overwhelmed / overstimulated with how much he’s got to take in and process he’ll instinctively flee. ) Whilst alternatively he may simply bottle it up and get through the interaction / deal with said person in auto pilot mode. It’ll greatly tire him out however, so he’ll instinctively lean towards trying to keep it short and sweet.
Depending upon the given situation + person it may just simply result in Dante breaking down if it’s simply too much for him ( which usually can be the case ) if he’s unable to flee or grit his teeth and smile all the way through. It isn’t like he’s expecting to fall back on keeping up a front / wearing his mask when he’s since lost any reason to don it since everyone and everything is gone.
At the end of the day - It really does depend upon the given context of the situation at hand. As well as how prepared he is to encounter someone. Someone like Vergil is the last person he’s expecting to run into - since he’s expecting to not run into him at all because he’s firm in his belief Vergil is dead.
#long post /#hinted death /#character death /#death /#( and due to a said thing that happened in the 2 novel - that didn't help either )#。・ † Headcanons .#( sad dante hours are go )
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