#i dont usually address this stuff because being openly asexual on tumblr in 2016 made me allergic to intracommunity discourse

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Oookay those are OP's original tags, can we stop spreading this post? I'm not trying to dogpile OP, which is why I cut off their url, I just want people to know the context of what they're reblogging. I kept seeing it on my dash and it occured to me that people may not realize that this post was not made in defense of trans men. The idiots OP is referring to are trans men talking about the difficulty in finding men's underwear that meet their needs.

This is in the same vein as that post mocking trans men for wanting jeans made specifically with trans men's bodies in mind. That post was more obviously mocking, I don't remember the exact wording but it said something about how trans men insist they need special jeans for their beautiful curvy hips or something like that. I think people were more quick to identify that as unkind and a bad-faith interpretation, because most trans men, and especially trans men who aren't feminine, obviously do not enjoy having curvy feminine hips. And speaking from experience, it is really difficult to find jeans with a masculine fit that are both durable and can accomodate hips, especially as a fatter guy.

This drowned post is not entirely incorrect, and I think people are reblogging because the reblog chain after it has some good info on finding men's underwear that fit. But OP's purpose is to mock trans men specifically for expressing frustration with men's underwear. Not only that, but in the tags they're calling us TERFs for it. And again, from experience, it isn't as simple as you might think! Most cheap boxers are a material that doesn't have much give, so if you have thick thighs they can be really uncomfortable or downright restrict your movement. Similarly, a lot of briefs don't work for me because the leg holes are uncomfortably tight. Then there's the period issue - I saw people claim you can put pads in boxers and boxer briefs just fine, but that's certainly not anything I've been able to make work. Boxer briefs and briefs also tend to have a lot of extra material at the front that doesn't look nice unless you're packing, which I don't really care about but I can see why it would upset some people. Basically, it is totally possible to find men's underwear that work, I've done it, but it took a lot of trial and error and I've made some compromises others might not be as willing to make. And it's not like you can return underwear once you've opened the package, so there's a financial sink to the trial-and-error process.

Basically, there's been something of a trend of mocking trans men for being frustrated with men's clothing, with the idea that we think we're special because we have beautiful feminine figures we want accomodated. I don't think I need to say why I really don't care for that take. Also, I know the underwear OP is talking about, and they are overpriced! But why do you care if a trans man wants a couple pairs of underwear that fit comfortably and are convenient for both packing and wearing a pad, even if he has to pay more for them? I guarantee most men are not filling their underwear drawer with these things, and again, even if someone is, why do you care so much??