#seamus pegg

[thepeelucof87]

[naivegh0st]

Frederica and Seamus' divorce is so interesting to me as they really don't seem to dislike each other. Like in the description of Gunnhildr's Legacy we learn that Seamus kept the outfit Frederica wore when she became the Alder Knight, and Frederica's response sounds almost fond, and she's not at all weirded out that he kept it.

Something else that's really interesting is the fact that Jean and Barbara were split, as in most divorces/splits the kids are kept together. Which leads me to believe that the divorce had something to do with the kids, or more specifically how Frederica was raising Jean, which is implied to be really authoritarian, that Seamus might not have agreed with.

[rindousaur]

I have yet to see one happy family in mondstadt but I like imagining their childhoods were happy atleast and I just rarely see art of barbara and jean with their dad

[lilyandthegenshinbrainrot]

Frederica Gunnhildr, and her familial ties

"For Mondstadt, as always" is the Gunnhildr family motto. Every time I use my Vision, I am reminded of my mother and the hopes of the people of Mondstadt. - Jean Gunnhildr

Frederica Gunnhildr, one of oldest leaders of Mondstadt, is the mother of Jean Gunnhildr and Barbara Pegg. She is the second-in-command of the expedition that Grandmaster Varka, Knight of Boreas, has led to unknown origins for unknown reasons. She has been working as a knight for longer than most of the current knights have been alive, and she enjoys being on the front-lines fighting for Mondstadt's safety. All according to Phonia, of course. She thinks incredibly fondly of her eldest daughter, as she taught Jean everything about their family's history, their nation, how to be act with the grace of the heir to their name, and swordsmanship. Jean is considered one of the best with a sword in the nation currently. She even wrote to her, saying that she has found a new sword for Jean and promising that it will do well to keep her safe easily. More so, Frederica hand-sewn the uniform that Jean usually wears to work, but the second outfit that Jean has used to be hers as well ! She does also love Barbara, as she sent her a lovely sunflower dress for her youngest to wear as she performs in her idol work and is written to be spending time with both daughters in Gunnhildr's Legacy description. Which tells me that she both knows of and supports her youngest's dreams and ambitions, even if she is not active in her life. Frederica does however give more time and attention to her heir, of course. She raised her alone. Which brings me to her marriage. Frederica, as established, loves the fight and loves the city. She is a proud woman with incredibly high standards and even higher work ethic. The woman was the inspiration of an entire generation of knights, and has long surpassed the requirements for becoming a Captain, if not for her own love for the front-lines. This is presumably, where she met Seamus Pegg. The Cardinal of Daybreak, a famed ex-adventurer whose name was once known across Teyvat before he settled in the Church of Favonius, cast aside his old self, and became the man of faith that he is today. I think she married him to secure her family lineage, because the way that she raised Jean is so focused on her future contribution to the city that even the people joke, A Gunnhildr learns to say "For Mondstadt, as always" before learning to say "Mommy." Which is why Jean is so... disciplined.

I think that she was excited to meet someone as formidable as herself- a respected adventurer- and she ended up with a man who... perhaps was unprepared for the Gunnhildr expectations. Sure, they were married with two children but I believe Frederica left Seamus. Remember what I said about Gunnhildr's Legacy, Jean's second outfit? Yes! Seamus kept her ceremonial clothes for years after their divorce. Why? She didn't care about those clothes ! She immediately tells Jean to keep them ! "Those were the clothes I wore when they granted me the title of 'Alder Knight.' You can take them, if you don't mind." And admittedly, while it would tragic enough that this poor woman married a man solely for her family name and for Mondstadt, I cannot help but wonder what they were like together because of that last line. Take them, if you don't mind. For a known proud woman, that sounds awful close to begging. Why? I wonder if this pious man, who quickly became an authority in the church, would turn to Ms. Gunnhildr in an effort to secure Barbatos' favor. After all, Gunnhildr's biography is public and everyone knows that Barbatos favors that family line. Was he the sort to marry for that ? Did he wonder if there was a family record, a Gunnhildr's autobiography ? Did he agree to marry Frederica in hopes of receiving private information about their nation? You know that they have it. It's suspicious to me that an adventurer would quickly rise through the theocratic ranks of one of TWO government reigning organizations in Mondstadt, when his wife was already a well-established name in the other. Seamus, a retired traveler and treasure hunter, what were you expecting in your marriage? Did Frederica leave once you gave her a legacy, or did she leave when you asked for things that don't belong to you?

[followfire]

About Gunnhildr's Legacy's description

This is inspired by this post by @lilyandthegenshinbrainrot that gave me an overwhelming need to write down my thoughts, and just saying I’m going with a different interpretation so I didn’t want to hijack your post, but I really like your take too!! We don’t know that much about Seamus and while I don’t think we have much reasons to doubt him so far, since we don’t have much information it also means we can have very different interpretations of him, anything is possible and it’s fun to explore different things!

I don’t think Seamus keeping Frederica’s clothes after their divorce is suspect, I think it’s more likely for sentimental reasons… The way Frederica smiles before saying “Ah, it’s been so long. So, Seamus still kept it, huh?”… I think she says it with a lot of fondness. It makes me think that Frederica and Seamus don’t hate each other. They can’t stand each other in their day to day life, they got a divorce for a reason, but they don’t hate each other. There’s still love, just not the kind of love that makes you happy to spend time every day with the other person.

As for the part where Frederica offers Jean the outfit… I’ve thought about this “if you don’t mind” a LOT, because it sounds a bit weird, you would expect “if you want” yet she doesn’t say it. But I don’t think it makes her sound like she is begging, I hear it as a more modest, more refrained “if you want”. Because Gunnhildrs are all about what they must, not what they want, it’s not in their vocabulary to talk about what they want. Plus… I think there’s something deeply personal about it that makes Frederica even more inclined to shy away from saying “want”… Because those clothes were her ceremonial clothes, from an important moment of her life. When you think about it, it’s kind of like a wedding dress: it’s clothes that you keep not because you intend to wear them but because they’re precious, for sentimental reasons, they’re mementos of a significant event. And there’s something highly personal, highly emotional about passing them to your daughter. I don’t think Frederica is good at showing affection, or rather she shows it through actions that don’t show her emotions, like giving a dress to Barbara, sewing Jean’s knight outfit, or generally being very present in Jean’s education, but she doesn’t smile a lot and she doesn’t say “I love you” out loud. I don’t think she’d be comfortable saying “those clothes mean a lot to me, and you mean a lot to me, so I would really really like if you would wear them”, but that’s the idea.

Also, I think it’s very important in her turn of phrase that it doesn’t carry any obligation. I think Frederica is hoping that Jean would want to take her old outfit. I think it means “you know you could take it if you wanted to.” But it’s not a duty. Frederica has already passed down a lot of duties to Jean, as a Gunnhildr, and I think she knows she holds a lot of authority in Jean’s eyes. I think she doesn’t want to convey that special authority in this moment, it’s very important that she doesn’t. For once, it’s not Gunnhildr’s heritage, it’s Frederica’s heritage, which is ironic since the outfit is literally called Gunnhildr’s Legacy, but if you think about it, it’s very personal, it belongs to Frederica first and foremost.

Alternatively, it’s possible that Frederica herself was not the type to attach sentimental value to things, so she might not care that much about her ceremonial clothes, while Seamus did, hence why he was the one who kept them and not Frederica. And now Barbara brings them (and it doesn’t seem like she mentioned it to her dad, maybe she took them without asking, maybe Seamus doesn’t know they’re gone, maybe he still wanted to keep them, hmm… rip i guess??) and she remembers, and she still doesn’t care that much about them personally, not enough to keep them, but… giving them to Jean seems like the best option. She’s not going to keep them in her wardrobe, but since the clothes have made it this far (thanks, Seamus), wouldn’t it look very good on her daughter?

[digibugs]

[icarianarts]

Seamus origami

[cosmic-jesterz]

MOSTLY CREPUS ART DUMP BECAUSE IM SO NORMAL ABOUT HIM💥💥💥🔥🔥

I probably look insane to everybody around me because of how obsessed I am with some guys dead father that only appeared for 17 panels

[cheeeserss]

Modern au in which Barbara is a diehard kpop stan and her dad is confused but tries

[amicus-siderum]

Jean and Barbra's parents.

Frederica Gunnhildr and Seamus Pegg.

A highly respected Knight of Favonius and the Cardinal of Daybreak.

Divorcees.

They are both on the expedition with Varka.

Now imagine these high rank, well resected leaders, just bickering constantly, because they divorced and clearly were immature about it seeing the estranged relationship their kids have with eachother.

All the knights and affiliated expedition crew just not knowing how to react because damn these really capable and responsible people are acting real childish right now.

Varka being like "you argue like a married couple" just to piss them off more because he thinks it's funny.

[kiddysart]

I am trying to make this an art trend, lets see how far can I go without recurring to twitter and their evil exes.

As a surprise to no one, Seamus was the one getting the short end of the stick in this. Hard to be an heretic in Mondstadt and not having brushes with the church (You can read more about it in Haschen's Lore's Highlights).

I just think these two plus Varka would make a funny trio of idiots, hope we can see more of Seamus as the game goes forward.

[kaeyas-tits]

Old man yaoi

[pj-was-here]

I like to think Seamus Pegg (Genshin Impact) is similar to Vash the Stampede (Trigun) especially back during Seamus' younger adenturing dayz

[followfire]

#though also if i treat it as a modification of 'jeanne' it can feed 'seamus is from fontaine' headcanons for certain aus >>, @dandelion-wings

I'm a bit slow off the mark about that but now that I think about it, names like Lyney or especially Wriothesley sound English too, not French! Fontaine names are not solely French names!

So Jean could safely be the English name without even endangering the 'Seamus is from Fontaine' headcanon :)

Nah cause why is Jean's name Jean? Like it's a French name and she's from an important and proud German family. It'd make more sense if Fontaine didn't exist because obviously not every irl country can fit into Teyvat so if they lumped a bit of France in with Mondstadt then it'd make sense.

Or idk maybe they were just using the English version of Jeanne and didn't have the time to think about the etymology of each of their characters names to ensure they fit in with the world and I'm overthinking this.

[lilyandthegenshinbrainrot]

Mondstadt Governmental Systems

walking to class and thinking about the Mondstadt governmental and power systems

So the power of the people is split between the Knights and the Church, yeah?

The Knights are responsible for the executive and judicial decisions. They're the law enforcement, they're the guardians, they're the trade and resource management. We know they are responsible for foreign relations, for ensuring that the lands are safe, and for enacting justice. We have seen both Albedo and Eula act in their capacity as Captain of Investigation and Reconnaissance respectively, we have seen Hertha work with Logicistics and Human Resources, and ofc, the Kaeya and Jean acting as Quartermaster and Acting Grandmaster respectively as well. We know the knights, we are a knight, this isn't new information.

The Church, however, less known and understood, is responsible for the social, environmental, and really cultural work of Mondstadt. Most obviously seen in the game where a couple sisters take responsibility for children during the day (Nora and Timmy), but also in the foreigners who go stand in front of the Statue to learn about Mond and the way that Seamus Pegg, Cardinal of Daybreak, was the one who Fatui approached when asking for Mondstadt civilians to be recruited.

This is interesting because we actually have never met any of the church leaders, only the Sisters and the Deaconess, with leaks mentioning a Deacon soon. We have not met Mother Maria, Cardinal Calvin, or ofc, Senior Cardinal Seamus Pegg himself. More on them specifically in a separate post.

My point being, there is still more to look into and there is still plenty of mysteries left in Mondstadt, and they aren't all hidden with Venti.

[followfire]

My turn to ask a Jarch question: what do you think Jean's relationship with her dad was/is? Both how they interact, and how they view each other?

Ok so first of all, while writing, I realized that there’s an information that I thought was canon, that may in fact not be because I can’t for the life of me figure out where it would come from… If someone knows, please tell me! Or, alternatively, if someone put this somewhere in their fic, please tell me too because it might be my source! XD

So, I thought that Jean had chosen to work on her healer abilities on the advice of her father. Which contributes a lot to how I see their relationship. Frederica is Jean’s main teacher, obviously, but the healing part doesn’t come from her, though. It comes from Seamus’ advice, and also it’s important to note that this is more about “advice” than ”teaching” or “heritage”: Frederica tells Jean what she must do as a Gunnhildr; Seamus tells her what he thinks might fit her when she’s in doubt about what she wants to become and what she wants to learn. He’s less hands-on than Frederica about his daughters’ education, and more into guiding and providing advice when they come to him.

It also shows that Jean thinks highly of him and trusts him both to talk to him and tell him about her doubts, and follow his advice. I also really like the idea that she incorporated a bit of him in her way of doing things. She was raised mostly as a Gunnhildr and does things the Gunnhildr way, but she also trained to be a healer because her dad gave her the idea.

Overall, I think of him as a pretty chill and easy-going dad. Frederica was the one worrying about shaping Gunnhildrs and he left that to her, so he focused more on taking care of the other aspects of child rearing. Like providing fun, affection, giving a listening ear, etc. I think he always got on well with both his daughters and still does.

But then I also think of him as becoming distant, especially with Jean since she stayed with her mother after the divorce which meant he stopped taking care of her the way he used to. But he’s distant, but more accidentally so, rather than him being cold or uninterested or anything like that.

I think he’s a workaholic, like everyone in this family. x) He’s very invested in his role in the cathedral, he’s very busy all the time, and now he’s even away on Varka’s expedition. And since Jean is also a workaholic, it doesn’t leave much time to see each other…

Also, as I was saying, I think of him as a pretty easy-going dad, and when his daughters were young, it made him a fun and chill dad, but now that they’re older, well… He doesn’t want to overstep or tell them what to do or be nosy since they’re old enough to take care of themselves and he trusts them to do it right. So he lets them be and keeps back. Again, especially with Jean since he doesn’t live with her and wasn’t her guardian anymore when she was still a child. He’d be very happy to provide for anything his daughters would ask of him, he’s waiting patiently for them to come to him, but they’re not kids anymore, they have their own life so he lets them be. I think Frederica tends to show her love more through concern, gifts, keeping tabs, while Seamus shows it through trust, leeway and being there when asked to. The only problem is… Do you think Jean actually goes to him when she’d like to see him? No, of course not, she doesn’t want to be a bother! XD And that’s where lies the problem: Seamus keeps back because he doesn’t want to be a bother, but Jean doesn’t go to him because she doesn’t want to be a bother. So yeah… his chill dad attitude now makes him an aloof dad .—.

If you want to move the sadness cursor up, for fic purposes, I have described Jean and her father’s relationship as “professional”. I think they still see each other because they work with each other from time to time, but it’s not the time or place to act as father and daughter, so they act according to their position instead. But then they don’t get to spend time together outside of work and also it kind of feels like they have already seen each other recently so taking the time to see each other again outside of work feels like indulging (especially from Jean’s point of view) so they don’t. Which means that they only interact as colleagues nowadays… Their relationship is suffering from it… They’re not used to be parent and child anymore…

I think Jean is very much a family person and resents that she doesn’t spend time with her dad anymore, the same way she resents not being closer to Barbara. The divorce hit her hard :(