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the umbrella academy s4 spoiler and speculation

edit: removing the read more because it gets glitchy (if this account is ever deactivated I think)

In character descriptions, it’s said that Ben is angry his powers are gone while Viktor is living his best life without the ‘curse’ of his powers. Ben is seen knocking over a jar of marigold in a teaser video from twitter. So maybe Ben released the marigolds and then that’s why Viktor was punching the shit out of Ben for bringing their powers back (with his character description, I think Viktor is having reservations about his powers :( when they were what made him drugged for almost all of his life, cause to his knowledge two apocalypses, made Harlan’s life so much more difficult, and hurt people he didn’t mean to).

So then Ben leaves the group and that’s why they’re separated when Viktor calls to warn him about the apocalypse.

sorry I’m going on a bit of a tangent but Viktor being content without his powers gave me thoughts. Viktor wanted to belong his whole life 😭

you’d think with powers that he’ll be more accepted (which doesn’t make up for his childhood…) but he was alienated in other ways

his siblings are wary of him blowing up or hurting more people. his powers are the very reason why Reginald separated him from the group has him rumored.

he didn’t need powers to be accepted by his siblings

them clambering in the car to help him in s2 he always belonged at the table. ‘do you feel loved?’ ‘I do’

but so much happened and started because of his powers. god why are all these siblings so sad

Reginald pay for your crimes!!!

These were originally in the tags but idk if desktop has a way to hide longer tags with a See All button like it does on mobile so here they are

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so uh. is it a bit too soon to make a tua pokemon au

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I feel this is more head canon than speculations but! Tying some thoughts and speculations about the umbrella academy comics. Though I don’t know if this will have any bearings on the netflix series since they’re so different from each other. Still, spoilers about the comics, the Safe issue, and a bit of the s4 teasers & trailers ahead!

Thanks to @tinned-beef for the Safe comic scans! I got the pages for the Safe issue from their post here.

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So basically, in the Safe comics, Reginald knew of an ending to “all life as we know it.” He knows this because of something called a Trace, which he used to peek into a region of outer space and that “allows us to have a glimpse into our future, and to look at the very end of our existence.”

[ID. A comic panel showing a mansion covered in snow, in a snowy landscape. A word balloon by Reginald, who is out of screen, states: “This object allows us to have a glimpse into our future, and to look at the very end of our existence. The end of all life as we know it.” END ID.] I think that object, the Trace, are the purple symbols here and contained in the capsule.

[ID. Four pictures including a symbol surrounded in a purple glow or smoke. The symbol is of a single line that loops in itself and is made of angles, squares and triangles. The last picture includes a capsule containing the same purple glow/smoke. END ID.]

(Does this Trace have a connection to the sigil Reginald was using to reset the universe?) (I don’t have a Netflix account rn lol so have this)

[ID. A sigil. Its defining feature are the 7 rectangles with shapes within them all connected to a straight horizontal line, either on the line themself or connected by two lines. END ID.]

Reginald has Abhijat, his right hand man, use some kind of machinery that sends Abhijat’s mind to a certain region of space. (The machinery used was also similar to the machines Reginald hooked some of the siblings to in the trailer! Well, not that similar, but there’s a lever and the head machine thing. You can see a lever in the first pic next to Reginald)

[ID. Four pictures showing a part of a machine. The first two pictures are from the Safe issue, one showing Abhijat taking off a helmet piece while Reginald stands next to a lever, buttons and some screens, and the next showing Abhijat connected to the machine. The next two pictures are from the season 4 trailer, one where Reginald is about to pull a lever that presumably turns on the head machines, and the next showing three siblings on said machine. END ID.]

And the reason why he sends Abhijat to this region of space is to observe these interesting fellas!

[ID. Abhijat in space observes as a number of large octopus-like creatures emerge from a tear. END ID.]

I’m going to call them space-octopus. Even though it looks like there’s multiple space-octopuses, Reginald just calls them singular it. Are they all part of the same being?

One appeared earlier when Luther, Diego, and Dr. Zoo (a friend of Reginald) explore Hotel Oblivion. In the comics, the Hotel Oblivion was actually the place where Reginald sent all the supervillains the Umbrella Academy defeated (provided with Self-improvement Rehabiliation booklets). It was a supervillain prison! It’s also located on another planet/dimension.

[ID. From the comics, Luther and Diego encounter one of the large octopus-like creatures emerging from a tear in the sky. END ID.]

The space-octopus causes visions to Abhijat, and also to Luther when he encounters it. With Luther’s visions, it wasn’t so clear to me what exactly was going on, but Abhijat’s visions were shattered into his younger and more recent memories. So maybe what Luther was seeing were his own memories? But if they were Luther’s memories, what’s with the bacteria(?) panel? A memory of a lab study from his time on the moon? Or maybe they are a collective of Luther’s, Diego’s, and Dr. Zoo’s memories?

[ID. Two images showing an encounter with the octopus-like creatures. The first shows Abhijat in space, whose perspective seem to shatter after seeing the creatures. The next shows Luther being tapped on the forehead by the creature and then a series of images follow: a crying baby, a light or explosion (?), a blooming or wilting marigold flower, and bacteria (?). END ID.]

Dr. Zoo says that the Hotel was a trap for the space-octopus with the bait being the supervillain prisoners.

[ID. Two comic panels showing Dr. Zoo explaining, “The hotel is not a prison— it’s an Abraxan— a cosmic trap! And the bait is gone.” Luther asks, “A trap for what?” Dr. Zoo points to where the creature disappeared and says, “Whatever all that was— all of this is connected somehow.” END ID. ]

It does seem to look into the hotel, like it was checking if any supervillains were left. Then it went down to the trio, tap Luther on the forehead, screech, and return back to its sky tear.

[ID. The flaming eyeball of the octopus-like creature goes through the sky, stops next to the Hotel Oblivion, and then turns to face Luther. END ID.]

But why would it be attracted to the bait- the prisoners? What about Luther, Diego, and Dr. Zoo— what makes them different from the prisoners? And when it tapped Luther, was it also seeing his visions with him? Maybe that’s why it ran off, it saw his memories, and now knowing how exactly Luther got from Earth to Afterspace, is heading in Earth’s directions? And how did Reginald know about this, how to trap the space-octopus?

Does it have any connections with Ben? No clue! It seems that way, after Luther and co encountered the space-octopus, Ben visits Klaus and tells him “It’s coming. You better be ready” (if ‘it’ was referring to the space-octopus, and how else could he have known it was coming if they weren’t connected?).

[ID. In the comics, Ben appears to Klaus and tells him: “It’s coming. You better be ready.” END ID.]

And it certainly does seem to want to come over their reality. Though there was that space-squid from Rigel X-9 in the first page of the comics, so there might just be space cephalopods living out there in the tua verse.

But if in the series Ben is the cause of one apocalypse, then yeah maybe this is it. He inadvertently releases the Horrors or they come over to Earth and it causes the “end of all life as we know it.” But we’ll find out next month!

And that’s it! Thank you for reading all the way here! Let me know if there’s anything missing!

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I won’t be watching or posting much until my sibling’s free to watch tua with me but I’ll tag everything as spoilers for a month

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ramble in the tags 🙈

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Hoping to animate the Jennifer Incident to Undercover Martyn by Two Door Cinema Club one day

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some tua s4 thoughts and speculation

Imagine the Hargreeve’s Home for Wayward Boys’ dusty and wrecked because the Eiffel tower (of all things) fell on it lol in reference to the 1st comic’s ending when the Eiffel tower fell on the academy. There’s no 4th comic issue for the show to base a plot on even if the previous season’s plot were barely based on their own comics. Though there was stuff brought from other comics like Hazel & Cha-Cha in season 1 and Mr. Pennycrumb in season 3 when the three of them were introduced in the 2nd issue Dallas.

So maybe there’s references to previous comics even if there’s no corresponding issue. time to speculate away!

There was also the Santa guns blazing clip in the teaser. The Hazel and Cha Save Christmas comic featured a Temps aeternis Santa agent with guns. I think he was shooting at a rogue Temps agent? idr. and I think I spelled aeternis wrong, but they were the comic’s Temps commission version.

and also Jennifer is here! she has to be they referenced the Jennifer Incident in s3. Can’t wait to see what’s that about Ben’s one of my fav characters!

oops I have too many thoughts I think it’ll be too much if I put them all in the tags aaa

who are the Keepers? are the restaurant people handing out weapons (?) related to them? Kailee’s a waitress is she working there? Jean and Gene seem related to the Keepers with their searching for anomalies.

why am I even putting this all here when it’s going to be revealed when s4 drops 😔

did Carmichael happen the same way Pogo did? how did he even end up in the commission???

thank you for reading all this if you did!