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A series of snapshots of how the public views Danny’s return [Bruce/Danny; Spirit Halloween]
I can't believe it's been already 5 days since I last written something. University has kept me so busy.
Anyway — on to the next part! I tried something different for the first half, I hope it's not too jarring. I thought it would be fun to have a sort of outside view of how the public see Danny and Bruce.
Read on ao3. Masterpost.
Previous. Next.
“Did you guys see the interview Lois Lane did with Bruce Wayne and his husband?”
“I was so shocked when I heard the news. They do look cute together though!”
“I still can't believe that the most eligible bachelor of Gotham had been married all along! It does explain why he never dated anyone.”
“I know right! But they must be super private for it to only come out now.”
“Actually they said in the interview that his husband was busy with other affairs outside the country.”
“Don’t you think it almost makes it sound like he’s a royalty from a far away land? He was so serious when he said he needed to take care of his duties and responsibilities.”
“No way you are believing that conspiracy theory. There’s a thread that debunked it already. Apparently he’s from some no name city in the Midwest.”
“I did think he had an accent I couldn’t place. Did you watch the clip of the interview where Lois Lane asked who proposed first?”
“Wait, what? I can’t believe I missed that, I hadn’t had time to watch the full interview!”
“Me neither.”
“Here let me pull it up.”
“-So who proposed first?”
Danny and Bruce look at each other for a moment and the latter groans at the expression his husband wears.
“Please not, love.”
“But it’s such an adorable story!”
“Now I’m only more curious,” Lois chuckles.
“Well we were quite drunk that day to be honest,” Danny laughs. “It was almost midnight when we decided we needed a hotel. Unfortunately all rooms were booked other than a Love Suite.”
Lois leans forward, eager to hear more.
“The receptionist said they don’t have a room for us both unless we are a couple-“
Bruce buries his face into his hands.
“And Bruce said and I quote ‘Actually we are fiancées.’ I don’t know if the receptionist or Bruce was more flustered when we woke up in the morning.”
“Wow!” Lois exclaims. “I never thought I’d see the day where Bruce is embarrassed.”
Bruce still doesn’t look up from where he hides his face.
“Yeah he couldn’t look me in the eyes for the entire following day,” Danny snickers. “I actually asked him when the wedding would be while we were eating breakfast. He almost choked on his food!”
The clips ends and the girls giggle.
“And still people believe Bruce Wayne isn’t a huge himbo.”
“I do wonder how his youngest came to be. Did he cheat while his husband was away on business?”
One of the girls opens her mouth but before she can share her opinion the other interrupts.
“If you tell me you believe the rumors he’s a clone too then I’m gonna hit you, Sarah.”
“I’m just saying that we never saw his mother in public!”
A loudspeaker announces the next stop.
“Come on, we’ll have to hurry to get the bus.”
Their voices fade as they leave the subway.
“Huh, isn’t that Bruce Wayne’s husband? Who is that next to him?”
“I think that’s Jason Todd, you know the one who died and came back a few years ago? Apparently he was in witness protection or something.”
“Wow, I almost didn’t recognize him. They look so familiar with each other.”
They watch as the older man cackles as he throws fries in his mouth while the younger scowls and playfully punches the man’s forearm.
“Yeah I heard that now that he is back in Gotham he has been on several outings with the rest of Bruce’s kids.”
“Even with his youngest?”
“Yeah they went to the zoo. With his oldest son he visited him at work I think. He also went to his daughter’s performance. I’m not sure if he did something with the Drake boy.”
“Talking about the devil…”
The door to the Batburger opens, Tim Drake as well as the rest of Bruce Wayne’s brood following him. The older man cheerfully greets them, ruffling the hair of Tim as he sits down next to him. Soon their happy chatter fills the fast food restaurant and the ones watching them move on to other topics.
“I was skeptical but they do make a good pair.”
Bruce Wayne and his husband are greeting their guests for the charity with matching suits and beaming smiles. Bruce leans to whisper something in the man’s ear and he nods. He politely excuses himself before he hurries out of the room with a champagne glass in hand.
“Indeed. I’m a bit surprised how well adjusted his husband is, considering I can’t recall ever seeing him at a gala.”
Bruce watches the man go with a genuine smile before he turns back to the people surrounding him.
“That brings me back to when Mr. Wayne first returned to Gotham. I can’t help but feel he looks more at ease now.”
“I know what you mean. He’s mellowed out a lot over the years. To think he had a secret lover he had been hiding all this time…”
“And he seems to be getting along with his kids too. Talking about them-”
Damian Wayne approaches his father, telling him something. Bruce hums before he excuses himself and his son as they go in the direction his husband had gone too. The two high society members quickly forgot about the strangeness of it.
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen Tim Drake so serious.”
“To think that Mr. Wayne would have died without his husband there- It sickens me.”
“The fact that his son has to hold the press conference must mean his injuries are even worse than speculated.”
“I heard that he might need to relearn to walk too.”
“His husband looked furious when the reporters swarmed them once they arrived at the scene — honestly I would be too.”
“They have no shame.”
“I wouldn’t want to be them or the Clown now.”
“I can’t believe Red Robin and Signal let him slip away. Where were Batman and Robin anyway?”
“I have no idea either. And here I thought Batman favors Mr. Wayne and his family.”
“It did seem that way. If the Clown washes up dead, I’m betting on Mr. Wayne’s husband.”
“One can only hope.”
Danny opens the door with a sigh, pinching the bridge of his nose. Those damn vultures. If he had known how annoying they would be, he would have convinced Bruce to go live with him in the Infinite Realms — although he knows that despite their love for each other, his need for revenge had outweighed everything else once he finished his travels across the world.
He shakes his head and steps in the room, eyes trailing to the bed — Bruce should be still out on pain medications-
“Bruce!” Danny chides when he sees the man struggling to stand up from where he is seated on his bed. “What are you doing?”
He hurries to the man’s side and helps him back into the bed as he groans.
“What happened?”
Danny frowns as he sits down the chair next to his bedside. It pains him to see Bruce so obviously weak, face drenched in sweat — if he finds that Clown, he’ll-
“There was a Rogue attack during the charity gala,” Danny explains as he pushes away the dark thoughts — he can plan with Jason later. He is sure the boy will take him up on the offer. “Don’t you remember?”
“What about the target?”
Danny sighs as he leans back, eyes tired — he hadn’t slept a single wink since the incident, but leave it to Bruce to be concerned about anything other than his own health.
“Tim and Cass managed to detain them. We got surprised before you and Damian could change into your costumes.”
Danny knits his eyebrows together as Bruce raises a hand to his temple, obviously straining his memory to recall what happened.
“You should rest, darling,” Danny leans forward and puts his hands over the man’s left hand. “My ectoplasm sped up things, but you were quite hurt. I'll tell the kids that you are awake.”
He moves to stand but Bruce grasps his wrist before he can move from his spot. It’s feather light — nothing like the reliable, strong grip Bruce normally has. Danny gnaws at his lips as he waits for Bruce to compose himself.
“Stay,” he says, voice exhausted before he murmurs, “please.”
If this were any other circumstances Danny would have snorted at the man’s display of rather lacking emotional vulnerability, but this is also the first time in many years that he has seen the man seriously hurt and had been powerless to prevent it even though he had been right there. The comfort Bruce is seeking right now — it’s also something Danny needs. To make sure the man is still alive.
The man scoots over as Danny climbs in the hospital bed and pulls him closer once Danny makes himself comfortable. Danny falls asleep to the rhythmic, slow sound of the man’s heartbeat.
Danny wakes up to hushed voices talking. He keeps his eyes closed as he becomes aware of his surroundings.There’s a hand in his hair and he can hear the rumble of Bruce’s chest as he speaks-
“-He looks too exhausted.”
“You should have seen him when he brought you to the ambulance,” Jason chuckles. “I thought he was gonna bite the next reporter that shoved themselves in his way.”
“We can be glad Daniel was there Father,” Damian says before he hesitates. “I don’t think I would have been able..:”
He trails off and the atmosphere turns somber.
“Has there been a press conference yet?” Bruce asks as he shifts to hold Danny a bit closer.
“Yes, Tim took care of it,” Jason says. “He and Dick will come by tomorrow.”
“Very well,” Danny can feel Bruce nodding. “Go return to the manor, it’s getting late and I’m sure Alfred won’t appreciate you coming home after curfew.”
Danny doesn’t need to open his eyes to know Jason is probably rolling his eyes.
“You say as if all your kids aren’t running around as vigilantes at night,” Jason says. ��Besides I’m going to one of my safe houses for the night.”
Bruce grunts, displeased and Jason sighs.
“Fine I’ll go to the manor,” he gives in. “But only because these are special circumstances.”
Bruce lets out a hum, now obviously pleased.
“Should we wake Danny?”
“No, Iet him sleep,” Bruce says, before a bit of amusement slips into his tone. “I’m sure the nurse will let it be once she recognizes him as Bruce Wayne’s husband.”
Jason scoffs, but doesn’t protest. Damian says goodbye to his father before both of them leave. It’s several minutes later that Bruce chuckles.
“I know that you are awake.”
Danny opens one eye, peaking at Bruce who is looking at him with a soft smile. He’s propped up against the headboard and Danny is relieved to see him looking better than when he stepped in the room a few hours ago.
Danny sits up and raises an eyebrow.
“My breathing?” he asks and Bruce snorts.
“It doesn’t need a Detective to notice that you suddenly started breathing again although you didn’t while you were asleep.”
Danny huffs out a breath — that tell is the only reason why Danny can never deceive the man.
“I didn’t want to interrupt your conversation,” Danny says as he leans against the man.
Bruce frowns as he tucks Danny into his side.
“Have they-”
“They all have been very accepting and lovely Bruce,” Danny interrupts. “You have good kids. I just feel bad that I have been monopolizing their attention. After all, you are their father even if some of them try to deny it.”
“You are now too,” Bruce says, surprising Danny, “if you want.”
Danny smiles as he answers, “I know. But that’s up to them.”
“I don’t think there’s anyone who can refuse you.”
Danny snorts.
“You are just biased, darling.”
Bruce shrugs, expression content.
“Guilty as charged.”
Danny laughs as he shakes his head.
Yeah, they’ll be fine — no matter what others might think about them. (And if he has to kill a Clown for that to happen, he will gladly do so.)
#dc x dp crossover#dp x dc#dc x dp#bruce/danny#spirit halloween ship#spirit halloween#batfamily#batfam#danny phantom#dc#danny fenton#bruce wayne#i actually wanted to do actual newspaper snippets but oh well#maybe another time#yoonjae20#yoonjae20 writing
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everything i learn about ethel cain is not only against my will but somehow makes her sound worse
#g talks#anti ethel cain#saw a quote from an interview she did a while ago#saying basically she doesn’t wanna be perceived as some uncreative pop girl#and while i understood what she meant#the way she said it was just so egotistical#but also insulting to people who like pop music#both listener AND artist#putting those people down to make herself seem special#like we get it hayden you think you’re a creative genius bc you’re apparently the first ever to do a concept album#can we tone down the self importance#you’re starting to insult people#mine#/mobile#/okay to reblog
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the time actress!reader mentioned obx in her interview
𝜗𝜚 ࣪˖ ִ𐙚 ────୨ৎ──── while the obx cast were together in drew’s hotel room madelyn in her ever obsession of game of thrones brought up that you had mentioned how much you love obx in an interview. causing them to watch the interview together.
𝜗𝜚 pairing: actress!reader x drew starkey
author’s note: this takes place in 2023 during the filming of obx 4 and 3 weeks after the first time they watched the show together. at this point of my timeline the cast have watched the entire first season of game of thrones.
drew was scrolling through his phone, you had followed him back on instagram a week ago and he was on the moon. though he hadn’t messaged you yet. unsure on what to say to you. drew prided himself on being a confident man yet, your ability to make him nervous through a screen was unprecedented.
while stalking your profile for the umpteenth time he found himself wondering about you yet again. your limited amount of posts made you even more intriguing to him. he wondered what kind of person you are. what things made you tick, whether you would stare up at him with those siren eyes, whether you moaned or whimpered during sex, whether your face scrunched up and your mouth hung open as your chest heaved like it did in your sex scene that hasn’t left his brain since the moment he watched it.
just as he fell into a spiral of thoughts about you madelyn spoke up from her seat across the room, drawing the attention of everyone else, and drew was suddenly reminded that he wasn’t alone in his room. “oh my fucking god! i forgot to tell you guys!” she was staring down at her phone. but drew was having trouble focusing on her, still consumed in his thoughts of you.
the others, however, had no problem driving their attention to her, so drew remained in his bubble staring at the most recent post on your profile, a vogue magazine cover from three months ago, of you, seated, legs spread on the iron throne with the sword dark sister held in your hands standing between your legs, the crown of aegon the conquerer tilted on your head, the lace thigh high socks with garters disappearing under the skirt of your tight mini dress and the bold red coating your lips enticing him further.
it wasn’t till he heard your name slip from madelyn’s lips, was his attention torn from the captivating sight on his screen. “wait, what you just say?” madelyn smirked “of course, only when i say y/n’s name, do you listen.” drew blushed lightly. but didn’t make the move to defend himself, after all they would be right, he had been distracted from the moment he saw you in all your glory stealing the screen.
“what i was saying that y/n mentioned obx in an interview, just pass me the remote, i’ll show you.” drew’s heart rate spiked, the thought of you having seen him in his element, doing his job, made him self conscious in a way that he wasn’t ready to admit. once madelyn had the video loaded on the screen, drew was once again struck by how effortlessly beautiful you are. dressed in simple black pants and an off-shoulder cream long sleeve top, brown boots disappearing under your pants and simple gold hoop earrings, your brunette hair loose and following in natural waves. drew looked at your empty neck and thought how good you would look if there was a necklace with his initial hanging there, branding you as his.
madelyn skipped through the video until the moment you were talking. the interviewer asked you and your cast-mate what shows you watch during your down time when filming, your voice rang through the silent room and drew was struck once again by how attractive your accent sounded, your british accent deep and sultry but more casual than the tone you use when playing visenya. “oh, well mimi and i love outer banks a lot, to the point where we quote it on set quite often. i think we’ve annoyed everyone.” you laughed and drew thought about how he wanted to hear that sound for the rest of his life.
your cast mate and best friend, mimi who plays arianne martell laughed and agreed and the interviewer who was surprised by your answer said that obx was one of her favourite shows too. your face immediately brightened as you watched her intently as she spoke about the show. what drew would give to have you look at him like that.
madelyn paused the video and drew knew that once everyone had left his room he was going to watch the entire video. “that’s so cool!” jd gasped. “i know right? that’s so crazy that she’s seen our show.” madison replied. but drew couldn’t bring himself to speak, he wondered what you thought of him after watching his performance. he wondered if you had the same all consuming thoughts he had about you, about him.
“i followed her when i first watched the show and she followed me back, but after seeing that clip a week ago i messaged her and we’ve been talking back and forth ever since, she’s so fucking cool, it’s insane. i think we’re friends now!” madelyn raved. “you’re friends with her?!.” drew was baffled, how was madelyn just bringing this up, she has known about his developing crush for weeks. “ah, now you want to chime in drew?” “yes, we’re friends and she’s gonna be in la when we get back so i told her she should come hang out with us, what you guys think?”
drew’s heart felt like it was going a mile a minute, he was gonna meet you. what the fuck.
thank you for all the love on the first part i’m so grateful. and for everyone who wants to be added to the tag list i’m figuring out how to do that so please be patient with me. also please send me asks about this au i would love to do like a drew starkey x actress!reader thoughts thing, but let me know what you thought of this part!
#𝜗𝜚 ࣪˖ ִ𐙚 actress!reader x drew starkey works#drew starkey#drew starkey smut#outer banks#rafe cameron#drew starkey x reader#rafe fanfiction#rafe obx#rafe outer banks#drew starkey fanfiction#drew starkey fluff
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harry nilsson quotes double feature: fact or fiction?
"Someone told me a few minutes ago they saw John walking on the street [once] wearing a sign saying – a button, rather, saying 'I Love Paul'. And this girl who told me that said she asked him, 'Why are you wearing the button that says ‘I Love Paul’?' He said, 'Because I love Paul.'" -Harry Nilsson
"I'm just like everybody else, Harry, I fell for Paul's looks." Harry Nilsson (on John)
these quotes get passed around unsourced, or wrongly sourced, constantly. so...
are these harry nilsson quotes about john lennon real?
shockingly, after getting an anon correction on the first one and then discovering myself on the second one through the world's most random search engine imaginable bc SOMETHING felt unfinished...... the final verdict for both?
...ish? the second one is sort of neutral bc it's taken a bit out of context but i'll get to that
let's get into it, because this one took me on a journey!
(and btw the sources on these were SUCH a pain in the ass to find due to lack of sourcing & wrong sourcing so i am on my hands and knees for these to get passed around w the proper sources now that they're in one place bc they're so good)
first of all, these quotes keep getting mixed up and messed around with different wording. which was my first road block on finding a proper source. second of all, they have been wrongly attributed to a) one single interview together and/or b) a rolling stone interview with nilsson. this made things aggravating. but in the end, an anon sent me the audio for the first quote and for the second one i FINALLY found someone a looong while back actually naming the book it's in & successfully found it!
made a post earlier concluding both were fake, but we just had to go a little deeper folks.
anyway, onto the good shit
who was harry nilsson? he was a friend of john's, specifically during his 1974 lost weekend era. they lived together for a while (along with others, including ringo!) and were pretty close.
"because i love paul"
this one gets misquoted the Most honestly like you'll find a bunch of different variations of it, but you can find it in a 1984 interview with geoffrey giuliano as such:
GIULIANO: Did he miss the Beatles? Was he mournful about what happened, over the, you know—? HARRY: Someone told me a few minutes ago they saw John walking on the street [once] wearing a sign saying – a button, rather, saying ‘I Love Paul’. And this girl who told me that said she asked him, “Why are you wearing the button that says ‘I Love Paul’?” He said, “Because I love Paul.” [laughs]
(source) (and again, it's a tumblr blog, but given that it's audio, i'm marking it trustworthy. i just uploaded it to archive.org in case it ever gets deleted)
"i fell for paul's looks"
this one. this one was a goddamn journey and a half. this sent me on several rabbit holes and dead ends. the author of the last source said "nope it's definitely not from the tapes i found this audio from or i would've posted it too" and couldn't find the source either. no one had a source. until finally i found someone on a forum saying it was in the ballad of john and yoko published by rolling stone in 1984, in an essay titled "harry remembers" and thank christ it was on archive.org
so here's the full quote, found on page 236
"He spoke the way James Joyce wrote. And to me he was the Beatles. He was always the spark. In a late wee-hours-of-the-morning talk, he once told me: 'I'm just like everybody else, Harry. I fell for Paul's looks. George knew more chords, so he was in. And Ringo, he's just Ringo.'"
(source)
so this one gets a... true/neutral rating from me. why neutral? well, the "i fell for paul's looks" part is certainly there. but in the full context, he's talking about why he wanted each member in the beatles. basically, paul was the pretty face. however, he did say that verbatim and it is incredibly fucking gay imo. like specifically the "i fell for" wording is craaaaazy to me. but i do think the full context should be included if we're talking about it, as well as the actual source.
so no, they were not indeed both from the same interview. one isn't even FROM an interview. but they are both true! which is great bc i love both of these quotes and truly thought they were fake! pleasantly surprised on this one
now, take these with a grain of salt. the first quote is a third-hand source. it's nilsson recounting what some random fan told him john had done YEARS prior. the second one is a second-hand source and nilsson and john were like pretty infamous for getting drunk/high together. but the quotes themselves? certainly exist from harry nilsson, and that's the question. believe them if you want to, or leave them! i'm certainly taking them lmao
#mclennon#type: factcheck#checked: true#A REDACTION...... truly stunned at these im ngl but you know what. we all have the sources now and i can move on in peace#had to pause this to go get coffee w a friend i was literally a lil late bc i was trying to speedread that essay FJASDFJASDF
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First Time In Years
Synopsis: Y/N is an action star who's dubbed as Tom Cruise Jr. she was in a relationship with Jenna for a while before the two of them broke up due to Jenna's uprising status in the industry. The two of them happened to bump into each other at an award show and time stopped when they saw each other again.
Warning: Bad writing, Feels.
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A/N: I was feeling a bit bored then this popped in my head so I thought I'd share it to you guys. Happy Reading!
You've been away from the entertainment lime light for a couple of years because of an accident that happened in a production you were doing a few years ago.
During those times you were down and under, one person stuck by your side and supported you, from recovery, to therapy, to getting back in shape. You'd never ever forget that person, she was the one for you, you believed that. But fate had something instilled for the both of you. She was an uprising superstar, you did not want to hold her back. So you did what you thought was best at the time, you broke up with her.
A few years back, you were not so sure you're gonna be back into doing action films due to an accident you had on a set that left you bed bound for at least 3 months. You thought your time in doing actions was done by that point. But here you are, leading a sequel from one of the best action films of all time, Top Gun: Maverick. Your Godfather pushed you to be in this movie, quoting "you're gonna be my successor, I want you in this movie". So yeah, what Tom Cruise asks, he shall get. And today, you're back in an award show with your castmates.
Today, you're gonna have to face that person again. You're not entirely sure what would happen, or if anything would happen at all. You haven't seen her since you two broke up, but you did follow her activities. Watch her series, movies, anything that would update you of what she's been up to. And you couldn't be more proud of what success she'd had. She was becoming a household name and she's still getting bigger and bigger as the time goes by.
So, when you saw her being interviewed wearing a wonderful dress, you could not help but stare, you're shameless about that, but can you blame yourself? She was looking beautiful. She looked more mature now, her long hair cut shorter, she looked more of a woman now, it's crazy what time did to her. She looked more beautiful, she's always been beautiful in your eyes.
"Stop staring and start approaching, kid." She heard Miles whisper in her ears.
Y/N turned to her castmate and gave out a chuckle. "I don't think that's a wise idea."
Miles looked confused. "Why is that?"
Y/N shrugged. "Let's just say we want to leave it where it was left." She said before she walked on. Miles was still confused as he followed her inside with their team.
"So, who's that girl you were looking at lovingly outside?" Glen asked as soon as they got to their table.
Y/N groaned, not wanting this topic to be the talk of the entire night.
"She's just... some I used to know, okay?" She told them, pleading for them to stop asking questions.
The older men and women got the signal as soon as they heard her frustrated voice, and thankfully, they did not continue to ask.
The entire show, Y/N would steal glances to look at the girl she's watching outside. She couldn't help it. It's been so long. Of all the places, she never thought she'd be seeing her here, with a guy she knows has been linked to the girl.
"I'm gonna go to the toilet real quick." Y/N told her mates and went without waiting for a reply.
She did her business and was about to leave when she stopped on her track as she was face to face with the girl she's been eyeing the entire time. She looked as shocked as Y/N, her eyes widened.
Should've tried to hold it in. Y/N thought.
The two of them stood there, in the middle of the comfort room, staring at each other with wide eyes. No one made an attempt to move, or even to speak. It's like they're stuck in a dimension where they're just there, standing and staring at each other.
Y/N was the first to move, to get back to her senses. She gave out a small chuckle, thinking how dumb they probably look inside the toilet room, just staring at each other.
She cleared her throat, getting the attention of the girl in front of her. "Well, you look extremely lovely." Y/N said genuinely, smiling.
The girl in front of her giggles as well, her dimples showing. Y/N always loved those cute dimples, and she most definitely loved the sound of those cute giggles.
"It's so weird that the first time I see you after so long, we're in a comfort room." Jenna said, giving out a giggle again, lowering her head, shaking it lightly.
Y/N laughed with Jenna as well. The two of them looked like madmen inside the comfort room.
"How have you been?" Y/N asked when they finally calmed down.
Jenna's smile never left her face. "Good. I've been good. You?"
Y/N nodded. "I'm getting by. Trying to get back on my feet."
Jenna nodded, then she looked at Y/N from head to toe. She never thought she would see the taller girl again. Ever since they broke up, Y/N seemingly went under the radar, like she was hiding, not wanting anyone to find her. But here she was, standing tall and healthy.
"I saw the film. I thought you weren't gonna get back to it. Was afraid I'd heard on the news that you broke something again." Jenna admitted, making Y/N's heart jump at the thought that Jenna was still worried about her after all these times.
"I wasn't expecting to get back in action as well. Just tried to bring back the old me, but did not expect to get back."
Jenna nodded. "What made you take the film?"
Y/N grinned. "Tom Cruise."
Jenna giggled again. "Ah, of course. Can never say no to the godfather." She said, causing the both of them to share a small laugh.
"You realize we're really catching up inside a freakin' comfort room, right?" Y/N said, giving Jenna one of those weird looks she loves to give.
"Yeah, I know it's weird, and disgusting."
Y/N just shook her head. She stared at Jenna for a moment, taking all of her in. She's still as beautiful as before, maybe even more. But one thing's for sure, she's still the Jenna she knows, nothing has changed.
"Congratulations on everything you've achieved. I'm extremely proud." Y/N turned serious, but the smile on her face never left.
"Congratulations on getting back to the screen, I'm extremely proud." Jenna replied.
The two of them stared at one another, before Y/N broke their eye contact.
"I'll see you around, Jenna." She finally spoke.
"See you around, Y/N."
And they both left it at that. Their hearts are full knowing the sacrifice both of them made blossomed into something bigger than they both expected. That would stay in both their hearts forever.
#jenna ortega x reader#jenna ortega#jenna ortega x fem reader#jenna ortega x you#tara carpenter x reader#wednesday addams x reader#cairo sweet x reader#tara carpenter#wednesday addams#cairo sweet
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the Seattle Ryden story is fake.
Tumblr's new post format is way better than 2020, so I’m expanding my old post here.
THE GENERAL STORY:
I just googled this...
REAL-LIFE AUGUST 2007 EVENTS:
The band did a string of shows & appearances in the UK (Decaydance Fest, Kerrang Awards, Reading, Leeds) in late August 2007. The last show was on August 26th and then the band flew back home (they lived in Vegas & Chicago btw... not California). They had a few days off before they needed to be in Seattle for their Bumbershoot performance on September 1st. Brendon and Ryan had a work obligation in NYC on August 31st, so it looked like Ryan went to stay with Keltie in NYC. There were pictures of them hanging out in places like Central Park and they did this photoshoot.
Yes, Keltie threw Ryan a bday party at Angels & Kings on August 30th. Ryan hung out at Angels & Kings with Keltie and her friends earlier that summer too. Plus, Travie McCoy had a birthday party at Angels & Kings that summer with a cake that looked very close to the one Ryan got. Their bday parties were good publicity for the new bar. Angels & Kings had opened around early May that year and other Decaydance bands invested in it, but the P!ATD guys had been too young.
Ryan's friends who lived in NYC were at the party, like Gabe Saporta, Eric Ronick, and Travie McCoy (who also performed at Bumbershoot). However, Ryan's crew of Vegas friends he'd been hanging out with that year weren't there. It just seemed like a NYC thing. I didn't think it was weird that the band members who weren't even in NYC were absent, even though I didn't know specifically why. A lot of fans assumed that the guys wanted a few days off nbd. Also, even if Brendon was in NYC in time for that party, he was still underage. A couple weeks later he and Spencer were turned away from Crush Management's party before the VMAs lol.
Anyways, on August 31st Brendon and Ryan needed to do the interview for Fuse that was chopped up to use in all of those Videos That Rocked The World daily episodes that came out after Thanksgiving:
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These episodes covered some big names, so it was very cool that P!ATD's opinion was included... even if the ads seemed to feature Brendon & Ryan more than the actual episodes did lol. Here's an example of the first episode (others were for Madonna, Aerosmith, OK Go, Guns N' Roses, Van Halen, Britney Spears, Public Enemy, Alanis Morissette, and Beastie Boys):
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here's more from that episode.
The band's Fuse interviews were usually done in New York City while they were on tour. A few years ago I emailed someone who worked on the VTRTW set because I wanted to double-check the date and location of Brendon & Ryan's interview before sharing that it wasn't Seattle. She gave me some other contact info and three very kind people looked into their old emails & call sheets. The director and the executive producer for the VTRTW series separately confirmed the NYC location and 8/31 date. Maybe they were both mistaken about the location, and Fuse randomly decided to film in Seattle despite the fact that their studio was in NYC... but the romantic motivation for Ryan to join Brendon is still erased.
Also, whoever made up the Seattle story seems to think that birthdays were important and meaningful to Ryan to the extent that he would fly across the country in the middle of the night to spend it with someone ~special. Ryan talked to Upbeet Music in fall 2005 about touring on his birthday and said "Birthdays were never a really huge deal in my family so it’s not like I’m bummed out that I didn’t get a party or anything so it’s cool." Obviously people can change over the years, so I'm just adding that as a side detail.
THE PICTURE:
Does anyone know who the fan is who shared the picture above? and what their original story was? It’s repeated a lot but I’ve never seen a source, a direct quote, or anyone who even saw the original person’s post (which is super weird). The whole Seattle story sounds about as reliable as the current fandom’s “funeral picture” tbh. There was also a problem in the pre-split years where some fans would steal other people’s pictures, claim it was theirs, invent a story about meeting the band, and then crop out or draw over the original person (and spin a story about how they looked ugly that day, didn’t want their face online, didn't want the band to know who was sharing the story, etc). Maybe that happened here too.
side tangent: idk why people are saying that since Ryan's outfit in the picture above is the same as his birthday then he must have arrived in Seattle without luggage. Why even add that part lol. He clearly wore a different outfit of his for Bumbershoot.
Anyways, I do agree that the picture at the top of this post looks like it was taken around the same time as the interview based on small details with their hair & outfits (the fact that they're wearing the same general clothes isn't reliable because those guys could repeat outfits for daysss). Fuse was located on 7th Avenue across from Madison Square Garden. The background of the picture looks like it could potentially be in that whole area. Maybe a fan got a picture with them while they were heading to their interview, who knows.
OTHER SEATTLE THINGS THAT *SHOULD* BE UNRELATED:
Yes, Brendon changed a line in That Green Gentleman to joke about Ryan while they were doing an acoustic show at the Space Needle in Seattle in October 2008. That was a normal thing and shouldn't stand out in any way.
Please don’t ruin Northern Downpour by dragging it into the Seattle theory and/or making it a Ryden thing. People are wildly misinterpreting some interview quotes & events (possibly because they don’t understand Ryan’s role in the band), so there’s more in this post about Northern Downpour.
Brendon, Ryan, Spencer, and Brent all talked about how much they loved the Pacific Northwest starting from the first time they played a show there in fall 2005. The boys were from a desert area and talked a lot in the early months about how they hadn’t had the chance to travel much (except Brent had been to Canada). Each time they visited Seattle or Portland at least one of them would mention how they loved the weather, trees, etc. Their strong appreciation of Seattle started in 2005 and has nothing to do with a fake affair in 2007.
There are a lot of assumptions surrounding the Seattle story in general, most of which seem to come from a lack of knowledge about the band. Even this post still assumes & projects a lot:
Brendon was not Ryan's best friend in 2007. That was pretty easy to spot (there's more in this post).
idk what else people are saying about Seattle, but I'll probably add more here later
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Original anon here—you’re correct that the current theory is Janelly Farias. At first it seemed like another crazy L Chat rumor, but after noticing the following things, I began to put more stock in the theory.
**There is no definitive proof and they could simply be friends. Just wanted to share this for others.
- Sometime in mid Feb - JF and her gf breakup and JF and Ali cover the Gold Cup together on CBS. Ali follows Janelly on IG around this time, but it looks like Janelly had been following Ali previously.
- During the Gold Cup, JF is seen wearing a rainbow friendship bracelet that says “ur gay” on it. People on L Chat mentioned that her friend made it for her months ago for the Taylor Swift concert. You can find a closeup of the photo under her Pride featured stories section on IG.
- Mid March - Ali’s style shifts back to more of her normal style. It seems like she knows exactly who her target audience is with her outfits. Less “for the male gaze,” if you will. Same with her nails. 👀 [This isn’t necessarily proof she’s dating JF, just that lately it looks like she’s trying to attract a woman more so than a man]
- Around March 20-21, Ali begins following JF’s good friend Renata Masciarelli on IG. Supposedly RM and JF are in NYC during this time. Rumors about RM and Ali dating begin on L Chat, but they don’t really stick. Regardless, it is a bit of an odd follow. The theory, which is later (somewhat) confirmed, is that Ali spent time with RM and JF while they were in NY.
- Mar 24th - Ali does the MSG interview with Sue Bird and she’s wearing a new rainbow friendship bracelet. This seems to be the first appearance of the new bracelet. Since this date, the bracelet has made multiple appearances and in one of the latest photos from Ali’s trip to Spain, you can confirm that it is the identical “ur gay” bracelet that JF was wearing during the Gold Cup and the months previously.
April 13 - someone on L Chat shares some of Ali’s recent IG quote likes. They seem to have taken on a more positive, romantic tone than her likes in previous months.
- “It’s the person you never saw coming that will change your life.” IG @3amthoughts9
- “ You deserve a calm love with someone who is good for your mental health and nervous system. Someone who is your safe space, your best friend, and brings peace to your soul during stressful times.” IG @selflovehealer
Two in particular (which, ironically, JF also liked):
- “Being attracted to someone’s voice is a real thing btw” from IG @queensdiarry
- “Good sense of humor, dirty mind and beautiful heart. Deadly combination.” From IG @love.quotes
- Mid April, an anon comes on L Chat and says the following: “All the trolls that had Ali turning her back on the LGBTQ+ community. That she wanted a man. And now she is actually dating a woman. Whoops, did I say that? 😂”
- A day later, people on L Chat post: “Ali is dating Janelly Farias. Mexican soccer player.” and “They’ve been seen around NYC on more than one occasion when JF was in town.” (Can’t confirm if this is true or not, but it would make sense given the timing of JF being in NYC and Ali beginning to wear the bracelet)
- At some point between Feb 24th and mid April, JF unfollowed Ashlyn on instagram and unliked her notes app statement post. I happened to take a screenshot of likes on Ashlyn’s notes app statement back on Feb 24th when I was explaining the divorce drama to a friend and Janelly had clearly liked the post, as well as older posts on Ashlyn’s account. When the JF/Ali rumors started in mid April, I remembered Janelly’s name being on that list and I was like, “there’s no way she and Ali are dating if she supports the ex.” So, I went to Ashlyn’s profile and noticed the unfollow and the unlike. That seems like a definite choice to me. Even close friends such as HAO and Lori haven’t unliked the original post, even though they are clearly supportive of only Ali now.
- During my deep dive, I also noticed that Makeup Alex and Janelly started following each other and liking each other’s IG posts in late March. This is interesting because Alex didn’t do Ali’s makeup for the Gold Cup, the CBS makeup team did.
- Mid April - JF was on The Courageous Podcast and she talked briefly about her recent breakup towards the end of the podcast, there’s a short clip on her IG. In the short clip, she mentions having a phone conversation with the woman she’s dating about changing people’s opinions through education [the question was about trolls, death threats, and such]. I think given the online trolling lately both JF and Ali have been receiving, it would make sense that they might have a conversation like that.
So, to summarize, they could be new friends, but the bracelet and the unfollowing of AH are the biggest things that make me think it could be something more.
I noticed Alex's (mua) likes too...👀
I'm sure that if is true, we will have some more tangible "proof" when Ali is ready.
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I lost a friend recently. Let me tell you a bit about her.
I met her when I was 11 or 12, quite a long time ago now. She was my coach then, but as time goes by those teachers become friends. My other coach calls me his sibling now, but I think she saws us all as her kids. She taught our head coach for years before he even founded the club, and she certainly treated him like a misbehaving kid when he tried to teach drills differently than she would have.
She was funny, and had a dirty sense of humor that always threw everyone off gaurd until they knew her well enough to see past her facade of "innocent old woman." She went to see Kinky Boots for her 82nd birthday and declared she would become a playwright. Her friends argued that she was already a playwright. And a poet. And an artist. They told me later that she was the lead playwright for two different local groups. At her birthday party she kept yelling at the band to let her in with the accordion. I found our later (as she joined them and played) that it was her band and they were trying to prevent her from playing to enjoy her own birthday party.
When she was diagnosed with blood cancer she conspiratorially told me that, while she was sad to cut back on her hours linedancing (and bemoaned missing the competition with her team) she had found something else to do! Those poor old men on the veterans pickleball team have no idea how much trash talk there was about them between their practice days. After all, it's no linedancing.
She gave me my first set of gear, and regaled me with tales of her past competitions. She was a 4-time national champion, after all. I got to hear all about her losing gear on international flights, getting lost in big cities, and getting banned from the train system of a foreign country because she tried to forge a transit pass when she forgot her wallet in her hotel room. She often complained that the 60+ veterans tournaments were no fun because there weren't enough people to make it worth her time to beat them. She'd do a little impatient hand gesture when you were against her that either meant "hurry up and do something already" or "I'm tired of this and you're about to lose." Usually both.
Once she made an analogy that struck me as being so accurate that I hoped others had heard of it, and wondered if maybe it was a well known phrase that I hadn't heard before (my other coaches had mentioned it a few times after as well). I looked it up later and found a news article with the same quote! It was an interview she had given a decade earlier.
She gave me a knife for my high-school graduation. I'm still not sure why.
She was funny, and kind, and creative, and determined in all that she did. I think she did more sports than I knew existed, and every tournament I went to there was someone asking after her when they saw the patch on my jacket. They usually were someone she had either taught or defeated and they respected her either way. She was a smart-ass, and a good teacher, and a great friend. She was someone who was incapable of not being actively in the middle of something, whether that was sports, or art, or one of her many businesses she ran.
She was a cancer survivor, until she wasn't.
But always, always, she is loved and remembered.
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Baldoni spent five seasons on Jane the Virgin. If he's a douchebag harasser, shouldn't there be tons of stories from that set about his toxic behavior? Where are there? By comparison, Blake spent 5 years on Gossip Girl and there are loads of stories about her feuding with co-stars and being a pain in the ass on set.
Obviously the accusations she's making are serious, but it's also easy for things to be twisted out of context. We already know discussions about her weight were in relation to a scene where he had to lift her up. Showing nudes sounds awful, but if it was to approve body doubles for a sex scene then it seems kind of standard. Etc.
A few years ago, he was a regular fill-in cohost on 'The Talk'. The audience loved him, and he really campaigned for the job to become the first male cohost on the show (I believe it was when Carrie Ann left). In the end, they decided not to go with him or any male host at the time. I have a feeling if there was anything devious going on with JB behind the scenes, it would have happened with these women at 'The Talk' and they would've said something by now (especially 'Mrs O').
OP. Blake is doing this because she lost the PR battle against Justin & the crisis PR firm he hired to protect "his interests".
This lawsuit is going to damage Ryan's career& reputation too!! That Crisis PR firm Justin hired are "Vampires" not sharks. They are that Good, and fucking mean.
R15 My opinion of her changed when I saw how nasty she treated that interview lady. It was so passively aggressively harsh and relentless too. Through the entirety of it, she and Parker Posey were a twat to that lady. I know how females can get with each other but dayummm at their level you would think that mean girl behavior wouldn’t exist. From there I started believing all the things people posted about her throughout the years.
I honestly didn’t think I could hate Blake more than I already do. That interview where she and Parker Posey go full mean girl is devastating and should have been enough for Blake to lie low for a (long) while. But, because she’s a deluded, arrogant c*** who can only see what’s in front of her rather than the big picture l, she’s filing this. I can’t WAIT for the backlash to ruin her and to would Reynolds’ rep, too. Her blindness as to this likelihood is staggering.
All that said, Parker Posey disappointed me, too. Her delight in that cruelty (let alone her joining in) really turned me off.
I don't know anything about Justin, but I do know that Blake, Ryan, and Taylor Swift are insufferable c***s. I hope this blows up in her face in the most spectacular manner.
The film made lots of money and put her on the map, but Baldoni holds the rights to the sequel, which must anger her to no end. She and Ryan must want the rights to the sequel in order to make a Justin-less sequel. Maybe that's part of the settlement she wants to make this legal mess go away.
Google AI:
[quote] Justin Baldoni, through his production company Wayfarer Studios, holds the rights to the "It Ends With Us" sequel, titled "It Starts With Us," meaning he has the option to develop a film adaptation of the book if he chooses to do so.
But what details at R56 are actually being alleged? “Emotional manipulation” is highly subjective. What does it even mean?
Lawsuits are won through detailed evidence and testimony. Not opinionated conjecture.
The thing I take away from that testimony, which would be questioned by the defence, is; they worked for Wayfarer, allegedly under those conditions, for years. Why?
They also be asked if they’ve been coerced by Lively and Reynolds. This isn’t some slam dunk.
Personally, I find the behaviour Lively describes in her suit to be kind of unbelievable. Why would anybody behave that way and, also, if his behaviour is SO extreme and everybody knew about it, why did Lively work with him? Her husband is one of the biggest stars in the industry - you mean to tell me that none of his advisers or representatives had ever heard anything about Baldoni and Wayfarer’s behaviour? They would just allow Lively to take this project without any warning?
Is it a coincidence that Lively filed suit a week after the Golden Globe and Critics Choice nominations were announced and she missed out?
This will go on for years and the only person it helps right now is the beleaguered Brian Jordan Alvarez.
Also, the #metoo moment happened 6 years ago and what we’ve learned since then is how easily these accusations can be weaponised. In fact, given Lively’s murky intentions here, you could say this suit marks the end of the #metoo era and the beginning of the “every man for himself” era.
Yep, this is a fight for the movie rights.
Also Ryan Reynolds appearing at the emergency meeting with Blake is hilarious. Can you imagine any other industry where a woman is accompanied by her decade older, wealthy husband?
Speaking of nudes, I am now recalling the rumour that Blake Lively’s nudes were leaked because Jennifer Garner found them on Ben Affleck’s phone and went nuclear.
Blake Lively? Blake Deadly!
All this sound and fury over what's basically a Lifetime movie.
When we had to kiss, he kissed me.
When we had to shoot a nude scene, I was partly nude!
When we got to know each other, he had the nerve to kid around!!!!
I was raped by HIS THOUGHTS!!!!!!!!!
Just about the time R251 talked about TS, a story something like his appeared in the Fail. I have little info about sm smearing, but having followed the debacle that is Prince Harry and his wife, I see his PR/stans all over sm bullying, lying, manipulating and brigading alongside certain "media" outlets, but so sad for him Harry's crisis mansgement has mostly failed. When you disagree with soneone on many DL threads, they just might be on someone's "team."
Justin sounds like a fucking lunatic, but she's known to be a piece of work herself--Armie Hammer was famously fired from Gossip Girl for calling her an "insufferable bitch" on set. How ironic that "It Ends with Us" may end them both.
The Traveling Pants statement is ridiculous. “Throughout the filming of It Ends With Us, we saw her summon the courage to ask for a safe workplace for herself and colleagues on set,” Uh, no you didn’t. None of you were on set so you didn’t see shit.
Exactly, R284. Once again, Blake Lively the C*** is over playing her hand by getting people to lie for her. She's doing the EXACT thing she's accusing Justin Baldoni of doing. Fucking hypocritical c***.
As I stated in an earlier thread a crew friend who worked on the film told me Baldoni was clueless and in over his head but Lively was a raging c*** who caused unnecessary delays with her tantrums and despicabke, disrespectful behavior. And she got a highly experienced 1st AD named Julie Bloom fired. I hope maybe Bloom will speak out someday about the toxic piece of shit who is Blake Li ely,
Why wouldn't an actress be a sociopath. An actress such as Lively with her long track record of c***itude.
1) Emotional Detachment: Sociopaths often have a limited ability to feel emotions like empathy, which can allow them to portray a wide range of characters without being emotionally affected by the roles they play.
Miss Lively immediately distanced herself from this role and movie about spouse abuse and restructed the PR campaign as almost a lie, about flowers and uplifting message.
2) Manipulation Skills: They tend to be skilled at reading others and understanding social dynamics, which can help them mimic emotions and behaviors convincingly.
3) Focus on Performance: Sociopaths may be highly focused on achieving their goals, including excelling in acting, which could drive them to hone their craft intensively.
4) Charisma: Many sociopaths can be charming and charismatic, traits that are advantageous in the entertainment industry.
Miss Lively is missing only #4
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I can agree all politicians lie but Biden has told some whoppers!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/bidens-ridiculous-claim-he-was-arrested-trying-see-mandela/
I can agree all politicians lie but Biden has told some whoppers! Maybe he suffers heavily from the Mandela Effect. Maybe Biden crossed over from some alternate dimension where he did get arrested trying to visit Mandela? It would also explain why he and Jill have two totally different years of when they got engaged.
Maybe Hillary suffers from a similar effect? I’ll argue till the day I die it was Looney Toons, not Looney Tunes. Maybe in Hillary’s alternate reality there were guns and not flowers in Bosnia.
I’ve started to notice when Biden’s say “I’m not kidding” it’s a big lie.
Direct Quotes:
“This day, 30 years ago, Nelson Mandela walked out of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid. I had the great honor of meeting him. I had the great honor of being arrested with our U.N. ambassador on the streets of Soweto trying to get to see him on Robbens Island.”
“After he [Mandela] got free and became president, he came to Washington and came to my office. He threw his arms around me and said, ‘I want to say thank you.’ I said, ‘What are you thanking me for, Mr. President?’ He said: ‘You tried to see me. You got arrested trying to see me.’”
In 2008, Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was rocked for days after The Fact Checker exposed the fact that her story of arriving “under sniper fire” in Bosnia was simply not true. Instead of running toward an armed vehicle with her head down, video footage showed she was greeted by children bearing flowers.
We were reminded of that episode when we saw that former vice president Joe Biden has told voters at least three times that he was arrested in South Africa while trying to visit Nelson Mandela.
As the Times noted, Biden’s memoir makes no mention of any such arrest. As far as we can tell, Biden never mentioned this arrest before
He appears to be referring to a trip in 1977, but the U.N. ambassador from 1977 to 1979, Andrew Young, told The Fact Checker that he was never arrested in South Africa.
Biden’s second statement — that Mandela thanked him for being arrested — also is not credible. In 2013, Biden merely said that Mandela thanked him for his efforts to end apartheid.
At one Feb. 18 campaign stop in Nevada, Biden associated the supposed arrest with waiting to hear back from his then- girlfriend, Jill, in 1977 about whether she would finally agree to marry him.
Update, Feb. 28: Biden himself was finally asked about this alleged incident, during an interview with CNN, and acknowledged he was not arrested: “I wasn’t arrested, I was stopped. I was not able to move where I wanted to go."
Jill Biden also references a 1977 Biden trip to Africa in her own memoir, but both appear to have gotten the year wrong.
After Biden’s remarks to CNN, The Fact Checker reached a white member of the mostly-black congressional delegation - - then Rep. Don Bonker (D-Wash.). Bonker, who said he strongly supports Biden for president, said he had “no recollection at all" of such an incident at the airport.
We will note that Clinton admitted she made a mistake after her Bosnia snafu.
Biden earns Four Pinocchios.
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Transcript for Marina Toybina on the Designing Hollywood podcast
I've seen a couple people searching for a transcript of her discussing Gerard Way's stage costumes, so I have made one! Feel free to share/link as a resource. Popular quotes are bolded.
Link to source video. MCR's section starts around 22 minutes in.
The transcript is beneath the cut.
Interviewer: Well now you’ve just finished working with My Chemical Romance, which is a band that I dig. Gerard Way is also a comic book writer and artist, created the Umbrella Academy. So, first of all, how did you get that job? Because there’s a design, I mean the look of that band and what they like to do, what they’re influenced by, they’re not just your typical rock band. So what was it like? How did you get that job? You designed the whole tour right?
Marina: I Collaborated with the lead singer, yes, with Gerard. Uhm, okay everything kinda has it’s place in time. About 15 years ago, 15 to 20 years ago, I was a huge fan. I’m a rock girl at heart, and back then a lot of their music was like music to my soul. It got me through some of the harder times. A lot of my friends were musicians. I never saw them live, never could afford to get to their shows, but knew one day in my heart there probably will be an opportunity, they were in like my top 5 favorite bands. He was an artist I’ve always wanted to work with. This past summer, while I was designing So You Think You Can Dance, I just happened to turn on their music - nope- let me rewind I'm so sorry. So a year ago I was reading a release that they're coming back together on tour and they're playing LA on my birthday. I looked at my team and I was like "I'm gonna be at that show. We're gonna go to the show, we're all gonna go together." And I just jokingly said “I'll probably dress them!” A lot of things in my career have happened to manifestation, I'm a huge believer in that. I think my intentions were so clear into the universe. I believed in it so much. That happened a year ago. Then this past summer, I was driving to work, I was listening to their music and I just happened to text my agent. I'm like “You know I really want to get back into music. It's what I used to do. I used to do a lot of live performances. I used to do a lot of music videos. I need to feel that again, even though I'm surrounded with music all the time and I'm doing all these shows. But there was a disconnect in my career, to where it's like I love live entertainment.” And she’s like “Who do you want? Like are we going after pop stars?” And I'm like “No I've done all that. I want to go back to my roots. I want like Incubus or My Chemical Romance or Red Hot Chili Peppers. Get me back to rock and roll.” And she was like “Well, you know, they're touring, but it's probably… I don’t know, let's put it out there.” Then within two weeks I get an email from her like “Hey their managers want to meet with you, he wants to meet with you.” One of the biggest things about their aesthetic is one of my probably top three costume designers, Colleen Atwood, did their black parade album and it was so incredible. Back then, I was always a step behind. It's like they did The Black Parade and then I met the photographer later. Then I worked on a project with him. So it was always like some better-late-than-never I guess. And I'm like “I'm gonna work with her someday, I love her work. I've been told by many people we're a lot alike.” You know? And I'm like “Why not?” And so we get this email “He would like to take a meeting, see what we can do.” I never expected to do a tour, I just wanted to open this door of opportunity, to just collaborate, maybe do one thing together. And he just showed up in my studio and it was just an amazing artistic energy.
Interviewer: Were you starstruck?
Marina: I was trying to hold it together. I mean before they came in, I can't tell you how much I paced. Usually, there's like 15 - 20 people at my studio. This was the time and day that I was alone. I didn't know what to do. Of course, my expectations were just to present myself and see if I would be a good asset to them because I love their music and I love what he's about. Also, it’s not just the frontman for me, I think he's a brilliant artist. So there's a lot of things. I just wanted our worlds to merge somehow. Within the first five minutes of our conversation, I'm like “Oh I get his brain.” I told them my story. I told him that this is like 20 years in the making. You know, I probably sound like a crazy-fan costume designer. But we share ideas, he walked me through the concepts of things he wants to do on this particular tour and they haven't started doing the US leg of the tour. I didn't know if they had a designer. Then he did mention Colleen was doing something for him and I was like “Okay, how - can this be a triangle? You know? Can I come in in the picture?” It was just a beautiful collaboration. It was a genuine artist to artist conversation. Like “Let's do something interesting.” He walked me through his concepts, his ideas and I'm like “Alright well, let me come up with some creatives, see if we're on the same page.” Again, as much as I wanted to be like “Hey we're doing this tomorrow!” I also felt like it's important now in my career and possibly in his, to make sure the relationship is good, that this is the right artistic match to one another and… it worked! From there it was just amazing fittings, amazing collaboration and some iconic things that went viral!
Interviewer: I love hearing this from you because this is like the joyous experience of 'oh my god I dreamt of working with somebody and you finally get to do it'. But I want to take you back to that because I'm curious. How would that process even begin? You're working with somebody that you already know their music, you already know his vibe. And Colleen Atwood, who I've interviewed by the way, on the show, she's incredible. Our interview had to - she was in the middle of a work day, so it was only it was a short interview. But how does a collaboration like that work with somebody like Gerard Way? How do you guys start working together? How is that process?
Marina: For us, it was just like an initial conversation. I introduced myself, my work. They already did some background checking up to see where I stand, what my aesthetic was like. And I felt I was in a place in my life, in my career, where I was able to bring something new. That's where my confidence I think came from. At the same time I didn't want to change the artist that's in front of me. I think that's always so important for me when working with music. You're dealing with a fan base, and a reputation, an aesthetic approach that's far beyond any artistic reach of anybody new coming in. So for me it was having a conversation, understanding what characters he wanted to bring forward. This was a very playful tour. This wasn't about dressing up the whole band. This was about him being in this world of iconic characters. And how can we bring this to life? What can we do that's still very recognizable to his fans but at the same time a little bit of a shock value? But at the same time, I wanted him to be him, you know? He was in this beautiful place in his life and career where he felt great and felt confident and I just wanted to uplift that. We did our creative decks, went through the conversations of which characters we wanted to go with, these are the shows that he had. I knew which city, we kind of wanted to play off where was the right time. Halloween was right around the corner, what do we do? So it was like very strategic conversations but at the same time so much room to play and be creative. So I just gathered the top 10 characters that we had discussed and kind of started doing my own thing, and keeping him and the music in mind. Had an amazing fitting. I've never worked with an artist that's so clear. It was not just directional and very precise and very distinct on his own style, but it was clear for me when we were doing fittings, this is somebody that knows his body. This is somebody who knows his aesthetic on stage. This is somebody that knows how they're going to perform. So it just made it so much easier for me to be able to fall into his world and do the fittings like “Is this going to come off? Is this piece staying on? Are we going to do options? Is the character going to evolve on stage? Is the character going to come down on stage?” So all those conversations happen in our fittings and then I just packed it all up, with distinct notes, send them off, and then kept checking in, making sure everything was okay.
Interviewer: So when you had a direction for the characters, were you doing sketches first?
Marina: No, not at all. This was something that I felt like needed to have the research. It wasn't just about designing something on paper. When he mentioned to me “I wanted to be a vintage cheerleader” I'm like “Okay, what era are we in? 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 40’s?” and then he was like “Find me something that's within possibly this color scheme.” The image that went viral when he did wear the cheer uniform, it was probably like 10 different vintage stores that we went to. And I'm like “Okay everything's size zero.” or like “What am I gonna do? This stuff doesn't exist anymore. If I get it from Etsy it's not going to come in time.” There's like so much and it happened to be as we were leaving one of the stores I looked on a sale rack and I saw this damaged, weird, vintage cheer dress that had no zipper, that had no hem. And I was like “I love this! I love this because I can reconstruct it. I can go and get the fabrics that we need to still keep it original and authentic. And that's how we start working. I build out a mannequin his size at my studio, put it on, we reshaped it, took the whole thing apart, reconstructed it to be his measurements, and still kept it authentic. After he wore it, the pattern for the actual thing was sold out. Fans loved it so much that we were getting notifications that people actually found the original pattern of this 1940s uniform and were buying it out.
Interviewer: That's crazy, okay!
Marina: Oh it's amazing! I think, to me, that's when things are just meant to be. When not only did my work translate into something beautiful on stage, but then he becomes this incredible persona on stage that then delivers the character and plays it off. We did that throughout every single look. Every single look when it became a fan favorite or craze.
Interviewer: In terms of time, what was the process when you first got the gig and then to the first show that was performing using your work? What was the time frame?
Marina: I think I had about a month to get it all together.
Interviewer: Wow! That’s not much!
Marina: Yeh and at the same time, I had another huge project in the works so it was going back and forth. But I could not tell you, I've had difficult projects in the past, I've had difficult times with artists, or finding our own language, or how to execute some things. This was so easy that time didn't matter to me. It was such a great collaboration, it flowed, like Bruce Lee would say, like water. It just made sense and no matter how difficult my other project was or what was going on at the same time, it was like oh this is the universe showing me this is how it's supposed to be. This is what's inspiring me. And at the end of the day, the one thing I told Gerard was “You made me fall in love with music again. You came into my life as an artist that I've admired and wanted to work with for almost 20 years. There was a big part of my beginning that made me look back at this now and be like “Oh that's what. That was that feeling that I had when I was 16 or 20.”
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Why do you think Grrm mentioned that Sansa shared responsibility in Ned's death? Especially when he wrote it in a way that Sansa had no idea about things going on and she had no agency.
I’m not a psychologist, nor do I know GRRM personally, so I’m not the best person to ask about what motivated him. All I can do is analyze what he’s said in interviews (gathered by the tireless butterflies-dragons) about Sansa.
The first time he mentions Sansa with ties to Ned’s death is a 1999 SSM: “The way I see it, it is not a case of all or nothing. No single person is to blame for Ned’s downfall. Sansa played a role, certainly, but it would be unfair to put all the blame on her. But it would also be unfair to exonerate her.” because she knew about the ship she and Arya would be sent on. I’d really like to know what the original question was, to see if he was correcting the asker’s interpretation or going along with it. He concludes the passage by saying “It’s gratifying to know I have readers who care so much, although if truth be told sometimes I get the scary feeling that you people know these books better than I do…” which (while complimentary to the meta writers who comb over each word) does point to the idea he doesn’t always remember what he wrote and instead leans on a popular fandom interpretation. Further evidence of this is when in 2001, a fan asks if Sansa misremembering the name of Joffrey’s sword was intentional; and he says it was, meant to foreshadow a bigger lapse in her memory…but all along, it was Arya who had misremembered the name in the text, and GRRM forgot what he wrote.
The last time GRRM says Sansa shares blame for Ned’s death was a 2000 interview promoting ASOS, in which he says “She has become more sympathetic [than in AGOT], partly because she comes to accept responsibility for her part in her father’s death.” I don’t remember the part (or what part), but I do remember her being beaten in front of the court by the Kingsguard for the crime of being Robb’s sister. I think we should also take note of the dates in which GRRM said these things. 1999 and 2000, so over 20 years ago; it’s so long ago, I doubt he remembers these quotes (and if he does, circumstantial evidence implies he regrets it). Because much more recently (and with more impact on the franchise), he wrote the Season 1 episode 8 “The Pointy End”, in which Sansa going to Cersei is omitted entirely. Instead, it’s made clear she was manipulated into writing the letter to Robb, and she makes excuses for Ned to Joffrey, getting a promise that Ned will be spared if he bends the knee. If GRRM wanted to keep Sansa telling Cersei, he could’ve, but instead adds a scene where Sansa gets Joffrey to promise (in the books she just thinks about it). I think the adaptation change indicates that by ~2011 he didn’t want people to blame Sansa at all, and the part of the fandom that hates on her to the point they consider her irredeemable is blowing things out of proportion. While Sansa is blamed for helping Cersei in the text in ACOK and AFFC, that comes from Cersei herself who is an unreliable narrator and very full of herself (she claims in the ACOK passage that Ned and Renly were plotting together, when…no; and I’m sure sending Loras to Dragonstone as in the AFFC passage will backfire). I’m just saying, unless I get more recent interviews where GRRM blames her, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt (which is rare for me, so you know I’m serious) that he just forgot what he wrote so went with a then-popular fan interpretation, but later regretted it when he saw how it was used to hate on Sansa, and wrote an adaptation wherein she did everything she could to help Ned.
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Were We Ever Happy?
Part 8
Wait, what?
While the crowd is giving their warmest applause, his world went in slow motion. It was like time slowed down the moment he heard her name and he froze when he saw her walking up the stage to join her uncle. He couldn’t hear anything. He was trying to make sense of what was happening because she was gone before they got back from the United States and that was a couple of months before 2018 started.
And now she’s back.
He knew he never got over her. He didn’t even know how to process her absence. He covered it all with work and more work. Collaborations, new songs, and beats, practice, interviews, shootings… He kept himself busy because if not, he felt like he would go crazy. He’s still not over her, that much he is sure of because how can one long for someone who left years ago and ache the moment he saw that person again?
She looked radiant, beautiful, and more mature, yet it seemed like she did not age. Or is that a 92 thing because his only hyung does not seem to age as well. Regardless, he does not know what to do aside from fighting the urge to run to the stage and snatch her away from everyone so that he can take her in his arms and feel her warmth against him. He missed her so bad. He longed and is still longing for her. Yet, despite the ache in his heart, he can’t help but feel happy and hopeful because having her back in the same building where BTS is at would mean having a chance to see her, hoping to make up to her, hoping that she can forgive him and give him a chance.
He just have to grab the courage to walk up to her and ask her to talk. But how? What if she’s still mad at him? What if he had wrecked the only chance she can give him?
He should not have watched Letters to Juliet with Jimin because now all he could think of is that blasted quote that says, "What" and "If" are two words as non-threatening as words can be. But put them together side-by-side and they have the power to haunt you for the rest of your life: What... if? What, if?”
So many what-ifs in his head that it's making him anxious. So much for an enjoyable night. But then again, he knew in his heart that he still loves her. He thought about her every single day and the reason he works so hard is that he wanted to be in a better place IF she would ever come back.
Honestly, in the past few months, he had days when he had already given up. Earlier today, he decided not to think about her for once and give himself a break.
And now she’s physically here.
That or he could be dreaming.
“Hyung,” he felt a harsh tug on his arm, “Hyung. HYUNG!”
He snapped back to reality, realizing that the crowd is once again, clapping and cheering as Lee Y/N had already finished her speech. And he zoned out just staring at her face, her body, her presence because it all seemed unreal.
“Pinch me,” he said blankly to whoever was beside him, “Just pinch me.”
And he felt a very hard pinch on his arm from Kim Namjoon which hurt so bad but that’s what you’ll get if you ask the hand of none other than the god of destroyer to pinch you.
“She’s really here,” he said to Namjoon.
“Yes hyung,” Namjoon replied, “Are you okay?”
“Yes. I’ll be needing more of this,” he raised his glass of champagne, “This is going to be a long night. Wish me luck.”
He took another glass and probably had 4-5 before he decided he has enough liquid courage. No not drunk, just not tensed like an hour ago.
He never let her out of his sight. His gaze followed her with subtlety and observed that she never left her uncle’s side and he never left BTS side – at least either one of the Rap line was there with him. He was waiting for the right moment to walk up to her hoping they could catch up and she would agree to have dinner with him.
He somewhat noticed, by pure luck that their group is somewhat moving closer to where she is and he wanted to keep it that way. And now that he’s standing close enough, he finished a glass of champagne in one gulp and turned around to approach her.
But before he even reached her, he was met with pure shock and surprise.
A little girl ran past him, giggling adorably then shouted “Eommaaaa~!”
It shocked him because Lee Y/N turned around the moment the little girl shouted and she caught the little girl in a tight embrace and carried her in her arms.
And as she stood up, with the toddler’s tiny arms wrapped around her neck, her eyes met his for the first time.
And for the second time that night, time stopped once again.
They were standing there, eyes locked. They were both shocked and caught off guard.
The hope that was growing in him died the moment she took the toddler in her arms.
His head is now swimming with questions.
Is she married? How old is the child? Is her husband here? Is the child adopted? What about them? Has she forgotten about him?
The last question lingered in his head because it seemed that the obvious answer is yes.
He did not know how long he was standing there, but he felt a hand on his arm, pulling him to wherever and he couldn’t care less. He realized that she was the first one who broke the eye contact because she had to shift the little girl in her arms and she took that chance to turn her back on him and put her attention back to the people with her.
“Yoongi-hyung,” he heard someone call him, “Do you want to go home?”
He just nodded absent-mindedly. He wanted to go home and get back to work so that he can take his mind off her.
While they’re in the car, his head is still swimming with questions, not caring if the rest of the members were discussing what they have just seen. He was not the only one who was in shock, but he’s the one affected the most of course. When they got off the car, a question popped in his head, “What if that was my child?”
It can’t be because she would not leave Korea if he’s the father and she would definitely tell him.
Wouldn’t she?
Later that night...
*Knock knock*
“I came in to check on you,” Kim Seokjin said in concern, “How are you feeling?”
He hasn’t really processed how he is really feeling as he hasn’t even processed that Lee Y/N is back and that a child called her “Eomma”.
“Numb. I feel numb hyung,” he answered honestly.
“We were all shocked too. But I’m sure it was different for you because I know that you still love her,” Jin said as he sat down at the edge of his bed.
“It was my fault. I let her go and left things unexplained,” he answered, “I didn’t really give her a chance to understand why I did it.”
There was silence.
“Hmmm. I don’t think that is true. While you are right that you should have given her a chance to understand, I don’t think you’re the only one at fault. She should not have left things like that. At least that’s what I think,” his only hyung said, “I know you’re going to think about it tonight, but at least try not to. If you can’t sleep, drink a pill because you need to rest. And no, don’t think about working. You need to rest Yoongi-ah.” He stood up walked towards the door, “Or you can just knock on my door if you wanted some company.”
“Jin-hyung,” he called before the older member could leave his room, “Do you think she’s married?”
Jin stopped and turned towards him, “To be honest, I am not sure of that. I thought somebody would follow the little girl but I only saw her baby sitter and another young lady, I think it was Miki. I didn’t notice any ring on her as well.”
He exhaled audibly and pressed his face against the palm of his hands. There might still be a tiny hope for them if she’s still available.
“Thanks, hyung. I think I’ll be able to sleep a little tonight. If not, I’ll wake you up for a drink.”
“Or I could slip you a pill to knock you off,” Jin joked, “You okay bro?”
“Not really. But I’ll live hyung.”
“Arasseo. Good night my brother. Don’t make me slip you a pill. Get some rest,” Jin said and left the room.
Yoongi went under his blankets and laid his head on his pillow.
“No ring huh?”
It wasn’t really a big hope, but still, hope is hope no matter how tiny it is.
And with that last thought, he closed his eyes and fell asleep with Lee Y/N in his dreams.
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Some thoughts about Bill's last interview
Full of tricks took the huge labor of translate the interview that Bill gave to cafe magazine, go and check it : click me
From that i took this quote: ( Bill was talking about the impact of streaming services )
[...] you can change your career during the day. Just like the Squid game guy, he had a crappy idea that he has tried to get done in a lot of years. "
crappy idea? What a rude thing to say... The Scandinavian ego at his FINNEST.
****Okay so everyone now is saying that the word he use here is "skitspejsad " That means ( or also means ) savage ... You believe what you want to believe. But it's not the first time Bill sounds a little like an asshole when he give interviews I mean in another opportunity he said the USA is the last place he wanted to be and that we are watching the decay of the empire ...
Ok maybe he is not trying to be mean, maybe that's the way he talks. Like people who always curse when they talk ... Or maybe yes people is right and the translation was "bad" or not appropriate, words are polysemantic so they can mean a lot of things. As I said believe what you want. ****
At least this interview gave us more interesting content that the one that Vogue Scandinavia did ( and we got better pictures).
- he was not blonde while they did this interview so it's from December before he went to cape town.
- It's obvious that is a promo interview for Clark, we get to know that it's going to be a Comedy not a thriller.
- i could imagine him speaking so excited about accents and what make Clark Olofsson so special as a character... He is clearly really really into this series , if this doesn't succeed the way he expects I believe that he could fall into a darker space.
- no mention of Alida , the interviewer mentioned her , not Bill. And at this point I'm hopping that she appears more than 5 minutes on screen bc it's ridicule the amount of times that i saw her name when it comes to the series.
- the typical lie of " he doesn't have social media" could not be missing
- " Nowadays he is an experienced name in Hollywood..." I mean yeah we could say that i guess. But it doesn't help if you put names like Robert Pattinson or Keanu reeves right after... He get outshined.
Bc Let's be real he is still growing , he is not all consolidated in Hollywood ... He still have a lot of work to do to achieve that. He has the talent , he needs to control de ego and work. IT was 3 years ago ... he can no longer use the " pennywise the clown" as a card to talk about his success , he and the media should not reduce his career to that role , come on.
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You said in your finnrey/zutara post that studio meddling was involved for both. I knew that this was the case for finnrey because of racist cowards. But I never knew that was the case for zutara? Tbh I just assumed from the get-go that aang and katara were the main ship and I thought it was cute for them to end up together in the end. Though it is really interesting to learn that zuko and katara could’ve also been a serious thing and I think they could also work together rather nicely. What happened behind the scenes that caused it not to happen? Was aang originally gonna be set up with toph or have no love interest?
Oh hello! Hi! My first anon. Welcome :)
Before we start: I’m going to write Kat/aang, A/ang and Bry/ke like that so it doesn’t appear in the tags and I’ll bold some sections for emphasis.
I don’t think the writers even considered Toph as a love interest for A/ang. It was always about Kat/aang vs Zutara.
It’s no secret at this point that Dante Basco and Mae Whitman, who voiced Zuko and Katara respectively, ship Zutara. Dante Basco is known as the “captain of the Zutara ship”. They’ve written multiple times about Zutara on Twitter and Dante Basco said in an interview that he really thought, at one point, that Zuko and Katara were going to end up together, that he thought it was going that way, and that he loved the idea of fire and water together.
As for the writers, it’s a bit more difficult to find information, since the show ended 15 years ago. But Aaron Ehasz, head writer of ATLA, has come out and said there was supposed to be a fourth season and it was dropped in favor of the movie. He said it on Twitter on April 1rst, 2019 (while also saying sorry for picking that date, it wasn’t an April Fools!). He said that M Night Shyamalan wanted them to focus on Book 4, but Bry/ke (Bryan Konietsko and Mike DiMartino) “wanted to focus on the movie”. You can find those tweets here. Not about Zutara per se, but it does show not everyone was on board with how the show was going to end behind the scenes.
Speaking of the movie, when asked about The Last Airbender, M Night Shyamalan also gave his input on the situation. He talked about how, by the time Book 3 came around, he wasn’t sure if the series was supposed to end there or if there was going to be a Book 4. He said to Bry/ke: ““Dudes, I gotta know this. This is critical! This has to end. This has to end. If it doesn’t end, I’m not on board. But if you don’t want to end it - it’s all good.” They were like “no, we saw it as three seasons for each element that he has to learn.” And I said “great.”” This is where it gets interesting, though: “At that time they hadn’t even decided where things were going to end, even like who Katara was going to end up with. All of that stuff hadn’t been figured out yet.”
It’s interesting to me how he mentions this is who Katara will end up with. Not A/ang, not Zuko. It’s always about Katara.
Someone who interned on ATLA has been quoted as saying that “If you check out the I.P. Bible then you’ll see a Kat/aang endgame was never planned from the start, it was supposed to remain a one-sided crush throughout the whole show.“ and that “The actual decision to make them a couple came about much later at Bry/ke’s request, largely because they were frustrated at the popularity of Zutara.“ Of course, not everyone in the production was full on one side or the other, as the post says some were neutral about it. “Some of the crew liked Kat/aang, I know Joaquim [Dos Santos] was a big Kat/aang supporter but more of them were neutral about it, Ehasz was not fond of Kat/aang but he didn’t mind too much since he’s a mature adult and all that.”
Avatar Extras (special events on Nicktoons where episodes of ATLA were shown with fun facts) were released where it was said that Zuko was supposed to be Katara’s love interest. It was said two times at least. I’ve only ever found screencaps of these, but I found these here on Tumblr.
When asked about these in the Avatar Extras, Bry/ke said that it was just a joke and that Kat/aang was always in the DNA of the show. But if you’re here to tell fun facts to your audience about your show, maybe put a disclaimer that says some things might not be as truthful as they think they will be?
And the intern mentioned earlier also said that “No one was having full-on ship wars in the writer’s room but we did joke about it, and we toyed with the idea of Zuko and Katara falling in love a couple of times.“ So that goes well with the Avatar Extras.
Meanwhile, other writers, like John O’Bryan, have been quoted talking against Zutara in favor of Kat/aang. EDIT: Thank you to @exhaustedhope for giving me a source for this quote! This link also has a few images for the quote, so I’ll add them here.
Thank you again! And also the use of Zutara fanart to badmouth the ship in favor of Kat/aang? Dude.
If this was the way people behind the scenes were thinking of Katara and A/ang’s and Katara and Zuko’s relationships... well that doesn’t really make me think “Kat/aang was in the DNA of the show” either, huh? Zuko was never officially her love interest, Katara never actually “went after that guy”. But the thought that she might made them uneasy.
(Btw, let’s not forget Zuko actually does care about Katara, enough to put his life on the line for her in Book 3, so that mischaracterizes Zuko.)
This comment by John O’Bryan fits with this vision of Zutara Bry/ke has, where Zuko is nothing but a broody, emo “bad boy” who doesn’t care about Katara at all. It’s shown pretty well in their dreadful “joke” made at Comic Con in 2007. You can find the video here. Here, Katara ends up with A/ang and “should have never doubted the will of Mike and Bryan!” (yuck). So Kat/aang was always the “right” way for them to end the show, right?
But then! Even Bry/ke themselves have said that Kat/aang was forced. They said it in 2014 when Korrasami became canon in Legend of Korra. On Korrasami and Kat/aang, they said this: “Originally, [Korrasami] was primarily intended to be a strong friendship. Frankly, we wanted to set most of the romance business aside for the last two seasons. Personally, at that point I didn’t want Korra to have to end up with someone at the end of series. We obviously did it in Avatar, but even that felt a bit forced to me.“
So they admitted that Kat/aang was forced. They even mention the ATLA ship wars in the post. “Either direction we went [about Korrasami or Makorra], there would inevitably be a faction that was elated and another that was devastated. Trust me, I remember Kat/aang vs. Zutara. But one of those directions is going to be the one that feels right to us, and Mike and I have always made both Avatar and Korra for us, first and foremost.”
Okay. So what’s real about the behind the scenes of ATLA and what isn’t? Was Kat/aang in the DNA of the show, or did they go back and forth between Kat/aang and Zutara like they did with Korrasami and Makorra?
There have been conflicting informations scattered across the Internet over the years. Some people say one thing and others react, saying the opposite and that the first thing was false. Some people lied, or joked, to mess with the audience and toy with Zutara - or not, or maybe, or perhaps... What I think, though, is that not everything was set in stone. Some people were for Zutara and some people were for Kat/aang. And even after all of that, the big takeaway for me was: the end result that Bryke wanted so badly was lackluster in and of itself.
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So I’m the anon that asked if Sakura had orphanages, thanks for the extra insight. Like I said in that ask, I had seen a lot of Sakura stans on TikTok saying that she had opened them up around the world and saying that she did it because she didn’t want other kids to end up like Naruto and Sasuke. Some said that this made up for the Sakura talking bad about Naruto being an orphan situation.
Hello! your welcome! Yeah it's from Sakura Hiden, at least in retsuden and shikamaru hiden this topic is not there. I read it very quickly -is bad written, very basic, as all the light novels are tho-
these are the fragments of the novel
--------------- "Ah, that's true." Sakura nodded as well.
At the Konoha hospital, Sakura had created a position where she was especially in charge of the mental care of children. Sakura proposed the idea to the senior officials of the hospital. Approximately two years ago, the Fourth Great Ninja World War had ended. When half a year passed after conflict, she then she presented her suggestion.
It was a great war ... Ninjas from all over gathered in an alliance to prevent the resurrection by Otsutsuki Katipoa. She was an exceedingly powerful enemy. Often they thought that they would have been drawn into the depths of despair. But nevertheless, with Naruto In the heart of the Allied Forces, they could neither break nor yield to the enemy. They had fought until the bitter end. Katipoa's aspirations were cut short.
Everyone rejoiced at the arrival of peace. The world was saved. Soon after, rebuilding began after such a large-scale battle. They were making progress by repairing damaged soil and infrastructure.
As a medical ninja, Sakura also treated a large number of injured ninja. There was also many people who suffered serious injuries. Many people visited her for treatment. Without However, all of her patients' expressions were calm and quiet. Since the war finished, it was probably because of her sense of security.
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Sakura thought incidentally:
"I wonder what the children are doing ...
She thought about it while she was in the hospital. Sakura noticed Kurenai, who was hugging her daughter. As for the children who were not directly involved in the combat, perhaps they were physically unharmed. However, what about his mental condition? Since the children did not know when the war would end, their young and tender hearts were probably stressing about your situation. Children saw countries in a state of collapse, or they knew of the death of someone close to them. Perhaps they were full of wounded in their hearts and minds.
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Due to the stress of the great war, there were children whose hearts and minds were wounded by the situation. There should be children who were suffering like those in Konoha. If that is the case, with the prepared infrastructure of the mental care clinic, and in addition to increasing its effectiveness in Konoha, then your work should be applicable to other villages. In how many for the other villas, it would be extremely useful for your children.
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―If only the Children's Mental Health Clinic and the support room could become what Naruto is for Sasuke, for other people ... "Sakura thought.
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A place where anyone could come and go as they wanted, talk about anything and everything. Yes the person was bad with words, he was good too. Then the members of the room support would try to start and lead the conversation so that something, anything, could be talked about, or just wait patiently until the other party feels like she can say something. A place like that.
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This is the Mental Hospital she WITH INO want to open for the children with mental issues regarding the horrible war. Which yeah i found it wonderful, but Sakura -maybe INo- hasnt got any kind of skill about Psychology and never even dared to care or put some emphaty towards orphans such as Naruto, Gaara or Sasuke. The only time I remember her thinking "Maybe this is how Naruto feels" is in Road to Ninja.
For example, here if you want to apply for being volunteer to take care and play with children in a orphanage, you have to be interviewed and take a psychological test. Because you are dealing with CHILDREN.
Anyway, this hospital doesnt have the "option" to adopt children or something like that so it's far from being an orphanage. And it's not across the world either. The Sakura portrayed here is the one all of her fans desire to be but isnt because her personality is far from being this kind of person.
Could she evolve? Yeah maybe sure, but with a lot of work and development. Development we didnt see here in Naruto nor in Boruto.
And i will rant with this a bit but this really fucked me up.
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Lately how are you with Hinata? Better than me, she would listen to you carefully.
-How jealous?
Sakura returned with tremendous speed and slammed her fist into Naruto's head. Sakura with an appearance of a demon looked at Naruto who now rested his face on a rock.
-Of course not! You know I decided to wait for Sasuke-kun!
-Y… Yes ma'am.
Naruto replied still lying.
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What did you decide to wait for, homegirl? Because i dont get it. He rejected you almost 5 times (not only love confessions but also your flirting advances) and you "decided to wait for him!". This basically means for me, that she is gonna force him until he "falls in love" with her, because the only thing sasuke said in 699 was "until next time" and that's a quote with the meaning itachi used to give. There wasnt next time, Sasuke went on his journey. -and this "cherry blossom" decided to chase him, and get pregnant because of course she had to get uchihas dick and crest. What do you want to wait for? Did Sasuke give any foreshadowing about coming back for your love? No.
Anyway.
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