#sanders+sides+theories

[v1kt0ry]

logan orange side theory...

[chirp-featherfowl]

There's a snake in the Garden of Eden.

(tumblr DEVASTATED the quality. click for the version that is more than 10 pixels 😭)

[mysticwolfentertainment]

Soo... Has anyone talked about the fact that Logan is basically left brain, and thats why he claims to feel no emotion but when he DOES feel emotion its often negative emotions like paranoia, frustration, anger, ect and its because the left brain is the side of your brain that doesn't understand emotions, and looks for the little details in everything, and when things aren't working out the left brain feels those negative emotions, and that often gets worse when the left brain is left alone to figure things out, and not only is this why Virgil and Logan are on the same side of the room while Patton and Roman are on the other side of the room, but also this is why the color orange represents anger, its one of the few emotions the left brain actually can feel, and therefore orange isn't actually a side but something all of the sides experience without knowing, either that or it IS a side, but more of an unconscious force that all the other sides experience, and eventually things are going to get so bad that the internal termoil boils over and also i think maybe Roman is gonna be the next one to experience anger to such a degree he has that orange moment too and when he has the moment it'll be at the boiling point and its actually going to scare everyone else, and that episode will end on a cliffhanger and the next episode will start with Thomas dealing with the unbridled anger he's feeling alone and turns out Roman's outburst will actually be foreshadowing for Thomas's own angry outbust that he deeply regrets almost immediately (extra points if the outburst is at someone Thomas deeply cares about, extra extra points if its a friend who is now reconsidering their friendship due to the outburst) and we actually see some dark story line start to happen and-

Wait how did this turn into a wild outlandish theory?

[loganslowdown4]

Ok I need to say this because if Patton did do the math calculation HE GOT SO CLOSE! Give him credit Logan, he just needed to change the .001 to a .004 and it pretty much worked :)

I do love the ‘acts naive but is actually smart-as-a-whip’ Patton theory 😄

[part-time-zombie]

So, uh... a neat little detail about Janus' makeup.

The side of his face that's normally scaled is the happy one, and the human side of his face is displeased.

Going by the assumption that the scales represent his deceitful nature and that Roman picked out the characters/costumes for all of the sides, is it fair to believe that this shows us how Roman thinks of Janus? That anything happy/nice about him is only a lie?

[sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes]

I mentioned this in the tags of a post but I want to make it its own post now

Because, theoretically, Virgil is See No Evil (can make the whole room pitch black/control shadows), Janus is Speak No Evil (covers the sides' mouthes and mimics their voices) and Remus is Hear No Evil (can block other sounds out so you can only hear him), then the Orange side might be the less commonly seen fourth monkey, Do No Evil

If this is the case, then perhaps his dark side power will be like him paralysing the other sides or stopping them from sinking in and out

The other sides would still able to see, hear and speak but they're completely unable to move, get away or rise up

I think it'd be cool

[let-roman-bite-someone]

thinking about how Virgil probably understands how Logan is feeling right now. how Logan feels like no one wants him around anymore, no one values his opinions, the other sides occassionally villanize him or act like he's the problem; and Virgil gets it. he knows exactly how it feels.

and that's why he doesn't make a big deal out of Logan jumping to conclusions about his present. it probably hurt Virgil to see Logan immediately assume that he didn't care enough to prepare a good present but in the end, all Virgil says is “and you thought I would just get you a newspaper”.

because he's been in this exact position before and in that moment, it was Logan who gave him some believable assurance that he is not unwanted, that his presence means something to the rest of them.

so when Logan jumps to a conclusion and assumes that Virgil doesn't like him all that much, Virgil doesn't take it personally. he's just returning the favor.

[batwingedcherub]

as much as I love the "Virgil used to be paranoia" theory I've thought of something else. instead of it being like past tense, how about future tense?? like yk how tempest tongue exsists when anxiety gets heightened? yeah what if there was like something after that... like what if hypothetically C!Thomas gets so bad in anxiety, Virgil changes forms (like how Patton did in SVS redux) and his role turns from Anxiety to Paranoia. and that's why every side is scared to say "paranoid" when Virgil's around cus they've seen paranoia before and Virgil's afraid of becoming that again

i like to think each side has this too

like Morality turns to Catholic guilt (SvS Redux) and Anxiety turns to Paranoia, etc etc and so fourth

[clydesavage-thefox147]

I don't think enough fanders are aware of this little piece of evidence, so I'm going to post about it. (Also pardon my nearly 2 months long hiatus, been mentally shitty)

Ever wondered why Janus has that pink blemish around his eye?

So, according to Joan in a past Livestream in late 2019, they confirmed that the pink was actually a scar. Yep. A scar. It makes sense since snakes and no other reptiles have that marking naturally. Apparently, it was added to make it more menacing and scary which honestly it did work at the time of his introduction, if you remember how scared people were of him then.

Initially, they weren't going to explain why he has the scar, since it would have been "too intense" to do so. To be fair, at the time it would have been, but now, do we really care how intense it could've happened? Also, I feel it's a bit messed up to make people with scars out to be intimidating, especially since that scar must've been a traumatic experience. I do think that they should go back on their statement and confirm that scar canonically in an understandable, less insulting way.

Now like I said in a previous post, I know Joan isn't much apart of the team anymore however, some of Joan's influence has still carried on in recent canon. Not to mention that Joan literally created Janus as a character. Another thing Joan did mention in their statement was that the scar..has a connection to the next side which is Orange. Which got me thinking-

Does that mean that Orange will be scarred too? Or..did Orange do it to him? Honestly, it does make sense. If you look at the pink hue enough, it does resemble that of a burn scar. Orange has been associated with that of fire.🔥

A character Janus has been connected to is Harvey Dent or Two Face due to Virgil's retort in Embarrassing Phases. According to the comics, Two Face is an ex lawyer who uses his studies in criminology and Law to commit his villainous crimes. He was chemically burned at a court trial, however some alternate versions suggest a more gruesome torture. And, it also happens to be on the same side of his body as Janus' scales and scar. This reference was made the episode right before SvS, where Janus was a lawyer. Definitely foreshadowing.

Another connection is to that of Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender. We know Thomas loves this series and the character is notable here for having a very similar burn scar on the same eye. Coincidence? I think not!

Now, if it is answered, was it truly Orange who did it? What if it was Remus? And was it on purpose or accident? With Remus, it's more likely to be an accident but Orange we have yet to know but it's more likely purposeful. Unless, Virgil caused it and that could be something he's guilty of but who knows. I just feel bad for Janus in the sense that his snake vision must already suck and then he was nearly blinded a second time? Damn man.

But yeah..that pink is a scar..from some injury..from someone...for some reason or motive. What do you think about this?

[scar4more]

OKAY

i know that it’s probably just a rlly mundane or stupid reason for doing 3 and 3 for a video right?

and obviously it’s like nothing huge but THINKING ABOUT IT for more than like 5 seconds is making me tweak out

“so i grabbed logan and patton and here we are” PARDON??? PARDON ME? and you didn’t grab virgil? in the year 2025???

i know it can be chalked off as like ohh virgil is embarrassed he doesn’t wanna do the trend ykyk but like, the idea that he just didn’t even bother with him is CRAZY. welcome back season 1!??

like semantically, how crazy is it that virgil’s actually being lumped in with janus and remus exclusively??????

like yeah it’s been seen or referenced before like in the “if tss was an anime” video, but that’s still different bc they were all in a lineup so it was all of them there, and even though they lined him up closer to janus and remus, he’s still clearly *part* of the “light” sides

and not to mention like, EVERY one of these like silly filler or joke videos, it’s always just janus and remus being “left out” from the main 4, like merch too is always just the main 4 and then janus and remus are like usually left out until later

and also considering how much virgil clearly doesn’t like them and tries so hard to distance himself from them and what he used to be, that it’s now like officially 3 and 3 ????

and like yes ik it’s probably just for an easier video format or some shit to make a two parter

BUT YOU GET WHAT IM SAYING RIGHT??????

(delusional)

like fr i don’t think it would’ve been that much more to include virgil w the other three, or honestly just knock ‘em all out in one video but

that’s still like crazy to think about right or is it just me

also side note (no pun intended)

roman saying “what’s up doc, me that’s what” was CRAZY i was like, okay.. i see the remus in you. i see the parts of you that you hate. tone it down, boy.

ANYWAY that’s just my first deranged ramble guys pls reply if u have anything 2 add on i luv talking about virgil 🙂‍↕️🔮

[emmaishere2243]

This might have been unintentional, but I noticed in the latest incorrect quotes video that in the highlighter quote

Logan (I think) only has orange and yellow marks on his face while Virgil and Roman additionally have purple and red on theirs

The red is a bit similar to the orange so some of the streaks might be red, but the difference just stood out to me

This is probably a stretch, and I am currently procrastinating on an essay in the middle of the night, but after people pointed out the orange stress ball it just caught my attention

If Thomas did do this intentionally, then he is having fun with these teasers

Anyways I’m gonna go write my essay now instead of rewatching Sanders Sides clips-

[simpel-is]

yk i gotta say, rewatching sanders sides has made me realized how human logan rlly is

like okay yeah he's usually apathetic and calm and collected, but, and esp in the older vids, it's so easy to get him to go on an angry tangent with a simple disagreement with anyone rlly him and princey are so fun to watch they're like middleschoolers LMAO

also i love him being the one to teach thomas and the sides healthy ways to cope but it makes me think its bc he's had exp in learning to cope with the orange side's influence?

also since virgil was once a dark side now i wonder if he knows abt the orange's side's hold on logan and how that even works

now im curious as to what lesson logan will learn and who will be the one to teach and guide him towards it (im willing to bet it's patton, maybe roman too but yeah)

[creepichan]

I cannot fucking do this anymore.... Okay, I am really not one for overanalyzing the littlest things in scenes that are probably meaningless and that people should stop thinking every little detail has a deep meaning.

BUT I was rewatching the puppet episode and someone in the comments pointed something out...

the moment when Logan gets angry? look at the staircase lighting

Thanks, my brain stopped to react normally whenever I see this color in SaSi

[lookupthewordjokeinthedictionary]

Hihi, remember how in DWIT Virgil told Remus that he thought he was a terrible disease? Probably because he made Thomas uncomfortable?

What stops Virgil from having the same mindset pre AA? What if the reason he put on a dark persona in the first place was because he saw himself as the villain, as the terrible illness?

After all, he made Thomas uncomfortable as well, that's his job!

Oh, and what stops him from believing it in the future? Especially now that he doesn't have Patton's support, he's lost his "dark side friends" and Thomas seems to be spiralling down a dangerous road because of him and Roman?

Hihi!

[loganslowdown4]

Roman: Good GOD—

Logan: How does this make any sense?? HOW?

Virgil: Why do you keep winning? And wILL YOU QUIT POKING ME??

Patton: But I thought we were playing poker? *pokes Virgil again, giggles* Also I have… these cards— *lays them out*

Roman: *slams table* A ROYAL FLUSH?!

Logan: *screams in frustration*

[part-time-zombie]

Ok so you know how thomas posted this a little while ago?

And how it has roman saying "Tis I"?

I noticed that I don't really remember roman saying "Tis I" all that much, if ever. I mean it's definitely a thing he would say but I just can't recall a time where he did canonically say it onscreen.

You know who did say "Tis I"?

Janus.

(sorry for shoddy captions, but this is him saying it in the among us video, even if it's not technically canon)

And someone else pointed out in another post how this scene in svs where janus has roman spell his name out could be him testing to see how roman would respond to accusations of impersonation, so he would know how to act like him later.

If we put all that together, this could potentially be janus impersonating roman in the next video.

Just saying...