#same as the other {No He-Him Lesbians No Lesboys No Trans Lesbians No MSpec Lesbians No b4b Lesbians} misogynistic 'male-exclusion' stints
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ramenheim · 1 month ago
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Wild that you didn't even check your posts before answering this, but okay. My /tone/ is not going to get nicer, so you'll just have to address the /actual content/ of my writing while ignoring the /rudeness/.
In teal you waffle between acknowledging that specific trans communities both deserve and do not deserve to talk about how the misogyny+transphobia of other ppl Uniquely Intersect to affect themselves— an experience that depends on the incongruence between how their body was perceived at birth (xfm) & how society(+the law) at large perceives their gender *now* [the categories being (cis/passing)Man ; (cis/passing)Woman ; & ThingThatIsWrong (any number of derogatory terms)]. Since only perisex cishet men are meant to wield patriarchal privilege within the hegemonic definition of a Real Man— categorically all trans+intersex ppl are excluded whether we consider it 'fair' or not (or whether we 'pass as men' or not). So there is no reason transmisogyny would exist as the only possible intersecting expression of transphobia to be 'worthy' of being discussed with a name, since all trans genders & intersex variations explicitly transgress against their Assigned Patriarchal Hierarchy and are punished in-line with what it decides You Should Be.
In yellow you literally did the exact thing you're saying "you never said". Trans men would not BE trans if they were not also men— the transphobia directly at trans men SPECIFICALLY hinges on their sexual anatomy being 'inferior' in the eyes of patriarchy & unworthy of Maleness, and therefore are all female interlopers + 'corruptors of the male category' (while also being male interlopers + 'traitors to the female cause'). Transandrophobia*(virilmisia/etc.) is still the intersection of misogyny+transphobia bc the ACTUAL WORLD WE LIVE IN overwhelmingly does not see eg.)Pregnant Men as Real Men & having queer & trans-friendly spaces chomping at the bit to find ~Males~ they can abuse 'for not being women (enough)' has routinely hurt every single trans person who did not Pass as 'feminine enough to be trustworthy' regardless of their gender. It is radfem poison & this site is steeped in it.
In red you expose that, no, you have NOT been keeping up with discussions of antiblackness & intersectionality; bc the antiblack racism that Black men experience is in fact held to be **specifically because they are men who are Black** & their specific experiences with racism can not be disentangled from their gender. Misogynoir (& transmisogynoir) were coined BECAUSE discussions of antiblack racism treated cis Black men's experience as the default 'Just Racism' (whether Black women experienced it or not) and the antiblackness that targeted black women *specifically* was being dismissed as Divisive (which was the exact same thing they heard from white feminists whenever they brought up misogyny that was uniquely directed at them) and not worthy of name or discussion (by EITHER group they *allegedly* had to support them— see: transmisogynoir needing to be coined in direct response to transfeminists doing white feminism 2.0).
The rest of your post is not better thought out or particularly compassionate to trans ppl's actual lived experiences irl, frankly. Saying "idk the ~implied~ etymological vibes are bad [bc you erroneously think you can seperate out the andro from the trans; by fundementally misunderstanding what an Intersection is] and also anyways it shouldn't even need a word to gather under [thereby silencing trans masc community discussions & contributing both to furthering transmasc erasure AND reinforcing the anti-feminist bias of treating 'male experiences' as the neutral default & not its own thing] what is this, oppression olympics?? [dismissing+trivializing discussions as just 'Divisive ID Politics' that are already covered under Other Bigotries]" is significantly more insidious than you realize; and I'm not greeting that mentality with ~kind platitudes~.
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TL;DR – ONLY PERISEX CISHET MEN ARE THE STRUCTURAL BENEFACTORS OF PATRIARCHY.
STOP PENALIZING TRANS PPL FOR THEIR ""PERCEIVED ADJACENCY TO MALENESS""/""PERCEIVED DISTANCE FROM FEMININITY""— NO ONE HERE BENEFITS FROM BEING TRANS ONCE IT'S KNOWN THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.
* R E A D * BLACK GENDER THEORY *BEFORE* USING ITS TERMINOLOGY.
* THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT TRANSFEMINIST THEORY *
I'd like to remind you that "Man" should not be treated as the Default Human Identity— all men have an Intersectional identity inclusive of their gender; that they aren't women/etc. doesn't mean their gender doesn't factor into how oppression axes impact them.
You seem like you missed out on the Masculinities section of Intersectional Feminism— you should fix that before misinforming people on what intersectionality (as a tool for feminist analysis) is used for by claiming that Privileged Positions (white/cis/male/etc.) are somehow not their own "Intersectional Identities" bc they "aren't oppressed".
i very much don’t think that men are non-oppressed? i know that men are oppressed by the patriarchy, in ways that are subtle and often overlooked. men as a whole are oppressed on a societal scale, because the patriarchy oppresses all that are in it. men who are in some way marginalized— queer, non-white, neurodivergent, physically disabled, etc— will have to face this oppression in tandem with the other identity (or identities) for which they are marginalized. this is a fact, and not one i have ever tried to deny?
please don’t put words in my mouth like that. also, in the future, if you disagree with me on a subject, just say that and approach me in good faith. when you come into people’s inboxes with accusations like this (especially on anon), you’re just going to make them want to go on the defensive. i’m not one to get in online arguments, especially not over topics that i explicitly stated i dislike discussing, but being this aggressive with people isn’t going to get you far if you want them to actually hear what you have to say.
#antiblackness#soooo sorry you have to deal with my 'abrasiveness'#but also don't immediately fucking pivot to 'I never said that ever but also I agree with it' followed by tone policing#'tumblr fucking STOP drinking the Misandry!!!GrrlPwr!!! radfem kool-aid' challenge failed for the 15th+ year running#I love being in lesbian spaces & I hate the constant cycle of 'we made lesbian women's seperatism but GOOD this time we prommy'#and what is 'good' about the new iteration is there's a new target of 'sufficiently man enough' to harass out of their own community#same as the other {No He-Him Lesbians No Lesboys No Trans Lesbians No MSpec Lesbians No b4b Lesbians} misogynistic 'male-exclusion' stints#& eventually this ideological ~trend~ is going to be seen with the exact same embarassed 'I never did that' attitude of exclusivity policin#anyways trans theory is made fuller with the 'transandrobro' analysis of powerjacketing & malgendering#intersectionality is entering pop-SJ levels of Not Being Engaged With Critically & is gonna be another Black theory term worn out by misuse#<- the reason behind my tone btw; CRT&cancelled &woke all got fucking misused+twisted by 'pop-theorists' whose new usage supplants the OG#definition— bc the ppl using the terms seemingly refuse to seek out the actual texts+discussion spaces that coined them#tag rant#longpost#shitty feminism#transmisogyny#transphobia#queer theory#virilmisia is even coined by a wellknown transfeminist years ago on twt; so you have no excuse to dismiss it on the basis of 'bad gender ID#transfeminist theory is important; and part of engaging in theory is being able to re-evaluate its conclusions + interrogate its assumption#in an effort to both reaffirm its truths & correct its blindspot biases#like. transmisogynoir has NO REASON to be as ignored in transfem online circles as it currently is—#but the virulent+pervasive antiblack racism on tumblr has cultivated its echo chamber of white feminism & blusky doesn't seem any better#fuck musk for killing twitter; so much was lost
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genderstarbucks · 10 months ago
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Hello, I’m gonna call myself uh..(checks emojis indecisively staring at them) 🥥 I like coconuts. Coconut anon.
Listen, I’m not a bi lesbian, nor Turiboy/girl/nonbinary nor any other conflicting labels that have somehow found their way into honestly meaningless controversy. Nor do I expect to really understand them, (I think it’s Bisexual Homoromantic right?) but everyone has a different way of experiencing gender and sexuality and if that’s what makes you, you then that’s wonderful man.
I’m more confused how they even ended up controversial in the first place.
We're controversial because our identities are "contradicting" because according to exclus, you can't bisexual and a lesbian at the same or be a boy and a lesbian because lesbian is non men loving non men (it's not)
If you'd like to understand, here's some common examples as to why people like me identify this way! Obviously these aren't all the experiences people experience, these are just the most common reasons why we identify like this
Turigirls: being a trans woman but still feel connected to the gay label, gay bigender individuals, gay genderfluid individuals, fem gay individuals who use girl = fem, femme gays, she/her gays, transfem gays, being cusper between a trans woman and a cis femme gay, being cross-aligned, and many more!
Lesboys: being a trans man but still feel connected to the lesbian label, lesbian bigender individuals, lesbian bigender individuals, masc gay individuals who use boy = masc, butch lesbians, he/him lesbians, transmasc lesbians, being cusper between a trans man and a cis butch lesbian, being cross-aligned, and many more!
Mspec lesbians/gays/straights: using the split attraction model (such as being homoromantic bisexual like you said), being abrosexual and being fluid between those identities, feeling like ones identity is in between said identities (such as being bisexual and gay because they're attracted to any genders besides feminine ones and women, so their identity technically counts as mspec but it can also be considered gay), being duosexual (being both at once) and many more!
Straight gays/lesbians: using the split attraction model, being abrosexual and being fluid between those identities, being duosexual, being bigender so their attraction is both gay/lesbian and straight, being genderfluid so their attraction is both gay/lesbian and straight, feeling like ones gay/lesbian attraction is straight and vice versa, being a man/woman with straight attraction to women/men and gay attraction to men/women but not necessarily being mspec, and many more!
Either way, thanks for being respectful even when you don't understand these types of identities!
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huntedspy · 5 months ago
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queer community rant below because im tired of constantly seeing discourse
the type of people that call lesboys lesbiphobic are the same type of people who crticized xenogender identities for the sake of appealing to cishets. the same type of people who hate mspec mono labels. the same type of people who were against he/him lesbians and she/her gays. the same type of people who called pansexual biphobic. the same type of people who excluded aspec identities. the same type of people who criticized nonbinary identities for the sake of appealing to cishets. the same type of people who said that transgender people need to fit inside a perfect box or else they weren't trans.
I really wish the lesson that we, as a community, got from all of the past discourse was to love each other and respect the identities you didn't understand. We (generally speaking) figured out that gender is complicated and we shouldn't keep it in a well defined box. What about sexuality? Why is sexuality different when it can be just as confusing for people or certain labels depend on one's gender identity? Sexuality is not just gay, lesbian, bisexual, asexual, and AS A TREAT! demisexual and pansexual.
You dont need to understand someone's identity to respect them. Saying this though I highly encourage actually meeting people with complex identities and talking about what it feels like or means for them. I have a close friend who has really made me less ignorant of complex identities because of their constantly fluctuating sense of identity. My own boyfriend is a bi gay because surprise surprise, neither gay or bisexual labels ALONE reflect his experience and saying bisexual homoromantic is a mouthful. Calling him just bi or gay erases either one of his experiences. I know for a fact if I looked into it more that turigirl would resonate with me as a closeted trans gay man who has to present as a girl. Or would have resonated with me as someone who had been figuring out their gender identity years ago and existed in a nebulous state of "im a guy... I think? am I really a guy?"
tldr stop being exclusive to labels you dont understand and calling it -phobic as a way of moralizing your exclusion. it's the same shit as when people saw men using she/her and calling it transphobic. youre not doing the queer community a favor youre just being an asshole
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the-crystalized-cosmos · 9 months ago
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Welcome to The Crystalized Cosmos
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This is a place for us to coin terms, share our wordmojis, as well as just kinda do our own thing. Everything will be tagged, so if you don't want to see one of those, feel free to block that tag. Most of the terms we use are easily found upon googling, but feel free to ask what something means! General Heads up that we are not consistent! We may post several things at once, then nothing for a week. Energy varies, we'll be back soon enough.
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We're a system primarily made up of 2 side systems and a large sparsystem, and a second sparsystem. We're a mediple mixed origin specutien system, however specifics differ between sisasystems. Our overall host (and main blog keeper) is Zev, who has been frontstuck most of our life. Overall we're trans nonbinary genderfluid, aspec omni, and polyamorous, though obviously this differs by headmate. We're also intersex.
We are both neurodivergent and physically disabled in several ways. This includes Autism and ADHD, Multiple Personality Disorders, RSD, a Tic Disorder, Breathing Problems, and more. We are currently a nearly full time cane user (full time when not home, part time at home), and are a part time AAC user due to speech and typing ability loss episodes.
More info on individual blog keepers can be found at on our pronouns.cc (pronouns.cc link) but it is a huge wip currently, so be warned.
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Our "Before You Follow" list is a list of our identities/beliefs that may make you want to not interact with us, however we have no rules around any interactions revolving things on this list.
We are bodily an adult
We are not comfortable using Tulpa for our created headmates in any way, however do not care if someone else uses it.
There will probably be cussing on this page. It will be tagged, but you've been warned.
We reclaim slurs, a lot. We, collectively and as individuals, find them important to our identity. They will be tagged, but not TW or CW.
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Anyone fine with sharing anti-endo rhetoric/post into spaces that are supposed to be safe spaces for endos. We're fine if you interact (comment, reblog, etc), but don't want you following. An exception is wikis and archive blogs. This rule is loose, and we are more lenient on it, but trust our personal moderation for us best.
Anti Mspec Monos (bi lesbian, omni turian, etc)
Anti Lesboys, Turigirls, etc
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Radqueer/TransID (TransID in the Radqueer way specifically, not from the communities they stole terms from)
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This is a section we will add to, once we've decided how we plan to handle this.
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mutt-the-punk · 2 years ago
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My nAme is River, I'm a scemo (Scene & emo)person who luvs new friends (Including you!! <33)
I use tUmblr as a kewl (cool) & fUn way 2 find new friendz and to find peOple whom have the same interEsts as mE (Interests later listed)
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Oh no.. your computer has a virus! I'll help you out but you gotta listen first.
Dni: Homophobic, Transphobic, Racist, Ablelist, pro overturning of Roe V Wade, -12,+21, Andrew Tate watchers, Msi supporters, falling in reverse supporters (basic Dni), Cringe culture, mean, rude, anti tone tagsif you are &/or support any of the following:
* racist, anti-black, against blm, support alm/blue lives matter, against police abolition & acab. xenophobic, antisemitic, islamophobic, nazi, zionist, assadist. don't support land back. alt-right.
* pro-life, anti-abortion. map, nomap. use/say slurs you can't reclaim. aren't critical of interests.
* romanticize or glorify abuse, and/or mental illness. trauma invalidation. think [emotional] neglect isn't a form of abuse.
if you are &/or support any of the following queerphobic beliefs:
* radfem, terf, swerf. transmed, truscum. against neopronouns, against xenogenders. against lesbians who use pronouns outside of she/her, and gays who use pronouns outside of he/him.
* fetishize mlm, fetishize wlw. think mlm are inherently 'less oppressed' by society, oppression olympics in general.
* believe aroace people aren't inherently lgbtq. mistreat transhets due to them being het. think polyamory is inherently sexual, think you can't cheat on your partners in polyam relationships.
* think bisexuality is the 'default' to being mspec, think pansexuality is biphobic, think trans people aren't included in bisexuality. treat pan/omni/ply/etc. as micro-labels under bisexuality.
if you are &/or support any of the following radinclus beliefs:
* pro-ship, anti-anti, pro-fic. think fiction has no effect on reality. pro-para (pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia, etc.).*
* mspec 'lesbians', mspec 'gays', and mspec 'straights'. lesboys, turigirls, 'male lesbians', 'gay women'.
* transabled*; endogenic, xeno-origin, any non-traumagenic 'systems' are included. 'systems' caused by disorders outside of DID or OSDD-1, like 'bpd systems', you get the gist; think you can have any trauma disorder without the trauma.
* this doesn't mean the support for the people with disorders that cause these thoughts and feelings. this means the anti-recovery sentiment of identifying as 'pro-paraphilia' & transabled- whether or not you have said disorders- and the worsening of symptoms.
if you are &/or support any of the following ableist beliefs:
*accuse people of faking their disability, also known as fakeclaiming. exclude the experiences of physically disabled people when talking about ableism. dismiss the experiences of chronically ill people due to the fluctuation of severity in symptoms.
* think allistics can say the r slur, think the infinity symbol is for all neurodivergent people rather than just autistics. against informed self diagnosis.
* think people with cluster b personality disorders are inherently abusive, or that people with DID, schizophrenia, psychosis, ASPD, etc. are dangerous or violent. 'narcissistic abuse' truther.
* misuse mental health terms, like naricissistic, psycho[path], psychotic, delusional, schizo, etc., especially in a derogatory fashion.
If you are any of those, I can't help you! Srry, not srry..
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There we are, I just changed your computers oil out!....
Your computer doesn't take oil? Oopsies..
Wellll while you're contacting tech support, let's talk about a few of the things I like!
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Interests: Monster high (Mh), My little pony (mlp), Invader zim (Iv), Ruby gloom (Rb), Waffles (no really, I love them), Tone tags, Swag new friends, Slushies (SO YUMMY!!)
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My favorite characters: Derpy (mlp), Gir (Iv), Discord (mlp) Draculara (Mh), Ruby Gloom (Rb), Skelita (Mh), Sarah Scare (Mh), Clawdeen (Mh), Lagoona (Mh), Bender (Futurama), Ghoulia (Mh), and a few OthErz
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Other: My dms are open but I don't respond often, my notifications are off.
I luv 2015
I REALLLY like neon (Mainly Green & Pink)
I watch REPOSTED Shane Dawson vidz, Markiplier, and Brandon Ferris!!!
LVL 14
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You managed to get on the tech support line but you're on hold? Hm.... let's play my favorite song!!
You finally got ahold of them? SWAG! Well I've gotta go, byeeee
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shrubmogai · 3 months ago
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actually, this is an incorrect definition of lesbianism: the label of "lesbian" has always included transmascs, nonbinary people that are partially men, trans men, and people attracted to women and men. someone who has lived as a lesbian for their entire life and doesnt see their attraction as straight shouldn't be forced out of the label because they came out as a trans men. a male lesbian is still the target of homophobia because trans men and transmascs don't in any way have the exact same power and privilege that cis men do because they aren't seen as men by a lot of people.
a trans man may be a lesbian because they don't see their attraction to women as straight because they've been a lesbian for years. a genderfluid person may be a lesbian for simplicity because they're attracted to only women even though they're sometimes a man. a pangender person may be a lesbian because, even though they're partially a man, they're still a woman attracted to women. a transmasc may be a lesbian because they're genderqueer and not 100% a man.
they were pushed out of the label by TERFs because TERFs see anything male as inherently disgusting, evil, and predatory. they also pushed out trans women, transfems, mspec women, nonbinary people, women of color, butch women, and any other women who weren't 100% cis, perisex, white, allosexual, alloromantic, monogamous, abled, feminine, and exclusively attracted to women. the label of lesbian has always included genderqueer men and people attracted to men, they were only excluded because TERFs took over the label.
the line between "nonbinary" and "male" is incredibly blurry and there's no use trying to put every single person into a box. what about someone who is masculine, but not a man in any way? what about someone who has gotten top surgery and gone on T, but isn't a man? what about someone who is genderfluid and only sometimes a man? what about someone who is a man, but also a woman? what about someone who has been married to a woman and identified as a lesbian for years, but recently came out as a trans man? what about someone who doesn't label their gender at all? what about someone who uses he/him? what about a transfem who still has connections to manhood?
more importantly, why do people get to decide how much of a man someone is allowed to be before that person is allowed to identify as a lesbian? just because someone is a lesbian doesn't mean you're required to date them or even talk to them. someone else's identity is not your problem. the problem of "men invading lesbian spaces" is nonexistent, the only people invading our spaces are TERFs trying to force everyone else out. lesboys and other male lesbians are very happy identifying as lesbians - "lesbian" is not exclusively for women, therefore they aren't misgendering themselves by identifying as lesbian.
also, the very concept of "nonmen" is racist - men of color throughout history have been dehumanized and treated as "not really men" or "not fully men". on top of that, women of color are very often seen as "secretly men" or "basically men". plus, in other cultures, they often won't have the same gender binary that western cultures have, and it's racist to try to take other people's cultures and shove them into strict boxes created by white people.
Lesbianism is when a woman/nonbinary is attracted to other women/nonbinaries, this includes partially female people (demigirls for example), people with more than one gender (bigender/trigender/etc), people that don't have consistent gender (genderfluids) and genderless people (agender). If one of your genders or a part of your gender is male, then you are not a lesbian, everything else is part of the lesbian experience
Edit: I'm not the queer police or anything, I don't know everything and not everything I say is 100% correct. I can make mistakes too but this should be pretty accurate (if I made a mistake or forgot anything, call me out for it and I'll correct it). Also, I made this second post because the first one was really short and didn't include all genders
Edit 2: I've read the comments under this post and I might be kinda dumb for not understanding this but doesn't a trans guy misgender himself when calling himself a lesbian? I get the connection to the label part and not wanting to change it but that seems like misgendering to me (I'm not trans and I don't know any trans people irl, so I might be wrong on this)
As for the second comment, we could argue about people that are partially male but the lesbian label is for non-men and I personally think that even partially male people are men in some way but I guess it's arguable since they're not 'full men' (I hope this doesn't sound offensive to anyone but I can't think of another way to describe it)
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