#rtc 2018

[finleyforevermore]

Observation I made:

During this part of WftD, the closer the choir is to the front, the more violently they thrash around.

Ricky doesn't really thrash and only raises his crutches.

Mischa and Noel are slightly more intense but it mostly looks like they're reaching for something.

Ocean and Constance have the most intense and violent movements. Ocean's hair flips around and she twists; Constance flails then snaps right back into place

Maybe everyone knows that XD but hey I was the first person to make a post about so there's that! >:D

[somepancakeonline5377]

Anyone else notice how the 2018 Talia has random whistles in the rap section?

This sparked a headcanon that Mischa stole that whistle from a teacher and keeps it as a lucky charm and then goes on to use it in Talia cuz that’d be awesome and silly

[dailyoceanoconnellrosenberg]

Day 102: God I love Waiting For The Drop 😌😌

[justarandombrit]

Can we appreciate how hype Karnak is in 2018 Space Age Bachelor Man?

Like, yes, Ricky is the danger.

[undescribed1mage]

Favorite cast actually

[septfair]

0-1-0-1-0-1-1

[rambiing]

i/me/myself by will wood is so noel gruber from ride the cyclone

[viccharine]

kholby wardell stronger than me fr if i had to learn that many versions of rtc’s opening number i would have pulled all of my hair out and quit 

[beckybarnes]

If you think that 2018 RTC isn’t iconic then I apologize for the fact that you even have the ability to be that incorrect

apologies for the um. excessive amount of jane pics. i got excited and forgot to screenshot other ones.

[ricky-is-too-silly]

QUEENIE, YOURE REALLY QUITE THE LOVER. BEYOND MY FANTASIES, BEYOND MY WILDEST DREAMS😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻

[moonmoonthecrabking]

it's quite frankly super unlikely that rtc will make it to broadway?? like could it? sure, never say never, but i think that the general vibe of the show plus it being a fully original story (not even historical!!) means that it probably isn't as marketable. the fandom isn't that big either, we're no hamilton (i say in relief). like if you look at how much popularity heathers got, but see that it never got on broadway, i think that rtc will probably be the same if it reaches that level?? however, it's more likely that it'll get onto the west end (still doubtful but possible!!)

[finleyforevermore]

Reasons for liking them:

Waiting for the Drop:

The only opening that actually takes place on the Cyclone!

Makes the audience truly understand how they're all just kids who wanted to ride a roller coaster.

Perfectly walks the line between lighthearted carnival fun and tragedy.

Has probably the scariest (/pos) version of the crash.

Despite being the most separated from the earliest opening, Tragic Fact, it still works in the ascending scale and Jane's operatic notes.

Lots of pretty harmonies!

The Uranium Suite:

Is probably the best opening musically.

Subtly blends material from other openings into it.

Has this dreadful and ominous feeling throughout.

Feels too dark, but at the same time, the darkness is what makes it so good!

ALSO lots of pretty harmonies!

[neodimyum]

Ive seen one too many edits of donatello with noel's lament and i keep forgetting his voice actor isnt kholby

[ivorypiano]

nothing scratches my brain more then ocean and noel's trans atlantic accents in space age bachelor man

[cpvnksabm]

hey rtc fandom. i think that the disability rep in RTC is flawed, and it was even before the disability-erasing script changes. however, recently i've felt that a lot of the fandom's criticisms of the disability rep are made by people who aren't knowledgeable about neuromuscular disorders or about disability in general. i sometimes feel people are accidentally speaking over me here, and i wanted to explain some of my thoughts as a disabled fan.

Misconception: "it doesn't make sense for Ricky to be both nonverbal and need mobility aids, those are completely separate disabilities". Reality - while it's entirely possible for someone to just have two unrelated disabilities, there are disorders that cause both difficulty speaking/inability to speak and mobility impairments. Ricky likely has dysarthria, the medical term for difficulty speaking, caused by a neuromuscular disorder. Ricky's disability is canonically degenerative and affects his whole body, it makes sense for his mouth and throat (which he speaks with) to be part of that.

Misconception: "ricky just has a mystery disease with no specified details", (often coming with: "so you can give him whatever disability you want in fanworks".) Reality - canon explicitly states that Ricky has a rare degenerative disease. This causes him to use mobility aids and be unable to talk. It is heavily implied to be a neuromuscular disease. It is also outright stated to be lifespan limiting. These are all canon facts and it is not appropriate to erase them, even if you still give him a disability.

Misconception: "WTWN was problematic because Ocean said ableist things" Reality - Okay, different disabled people have different thoughts on this - ableism is a very real and personal subject for most of us, we will generally have strong opinions about it shaped by our experiences. With that said, people in real life say the same things Ocean says in her song. And many of them seem like good and caring people, just like Ocean does! I don't think it's wrong to represent that in media - I think showing Ricky's experiences with ableism is part of showing Ricky's disabled experiences. I definitely have criticisms around the way Ocean's ableism was handled - and other disabled people will have other criticisms. But if my opinion counts for anything, I am disabled and I never want the ableist lines in WTWN to be cut.

Misconception: "it was weird / didn't make sense for Ricky to refer to his crutches by name" Reality - this is extremely common in real life, actually! My mobility aids have names. I know many people who name their mobility aids. Not all disabled people do this, obviously, but it's not particularly weird for Ricky to.

Misconception: "RTC removed the scene where ricky concedes and his disability" / "removing the 'ricky concedes' scene was part of the ableist script changes" Reality - the "Ricky concedes" scene was removed sometime between 2016 and 2018 (unsure on exact date), before Ricky's disability was removed in 2022. I often see people conflating the removal of Ricky conceding with the removal of Ricky's disability, and I honestly find this a little disrespectful. The 2022 script changes were extremely ableist, whereas the earlier script changes weren't about Ricky's disability and certainly weren't with intent to erase it - in fact, I think it's possible that Ricky conceding was removed to be more respectful to disabled people. I might fully explain my thoughts on this at some point, but overall, I am in favour of Ricky's conceding being removed - I'm also willing to agree to disagree on this, because the issue is less about disability representation and more just about Ricky's characterisation & the plot of the musical. Please do not say this script change was ableist.

Please make sure your criticisms of RTC's disability rep are well-researched and coming from a place of understanding. Please make sure you're not speaking over disabled people to say what we think is problematic. Please make sure your attempts at "fixing" canon's disability rep isn't just making it worse - how would you feel if someone "fixed" a depiction of your life experiences, by completely changing it to something they feel is more appropriate to depict?

Thanks for reading!

[undescribed1mage]

The evers.