#romantasy is not generally my thing but god these books are good
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chryseis Ā· 3 months ago
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Can someone please please please read A Kiss of Iron/A Touch of Poison šŸ˜« I need to talk about themmmm
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checkoutmybookshelf Ā· 9 months ago
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Sometimes the Adaptation is the Book, Actually...
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So, as I'm sure more than a few of you did, I enjoyed the heck out of Jill Bearup's fantasy heroin YouTube shorts series. And as I'm sure many of us have experienced, YouTuber books can be...distinctly hit-or-miss in terms of quality. So when Bearup announced that she was adapting the shorts series into an actual book, I was willing to give it a shot when it came out. So in Bearup's own tier list terms, I'd give this book a pretty good. Strong concept, a lot to like...but the TYPESETTING, my god. Let's talk Just Stab Me Now.
This is your spoiler warning for a book that has been EXTREMELY hyped on YouTube, and one who's story has already been told on YouTube. Here there be Spoilers.
So normally I like to start with the things I like about a book, but since I liked so much about this book and the one thing that I didn't like could have stopped me cold, we're going to start with the one thing that I think was actually bad. The typesetting.
To be clear: Bearup was extremely clear that using different fonts and margins to delineate between Caroline's world, the fantasy world, and Caroline's mind where she interacts with the fantasy characters was a considered, intentional choice. That's valid, and there is nothing inherently wrong with making that choice. It's also well done in the book, like it's consistent and well put together.
That said: Oh my god you guys, I hated it. It took me the first fifty-odd pages to get used to it, and even then, it AGGRESSIVELY snapped my editor brain's bra strap. I seriously considered putting the book down because of the typesetting, which would have been a crying shame because I really enjoyed the book overall. This might not bother some readers, but it was nearly a dealbreaker for me, so I wanted to mention it as a "your mileage may vary" kind of thing.
Other than that though, I think this book did a pretty solid job of adapting the fantasy heroine shorts into a full-blown novel.
Caroline Lindley is very much helicopter parenting her fictional characters, and the fact that they are by turns bemused and cranky about this is very fun throughout the novel. I also like that we get a lot more of Caroline in the novel than we did in the shorts series. Her story was just as compelling as Rosamund and Leo's, and I quite enjoyed having the extraordinarily modern cybersecurity subplot to balance the fantasy setting as well. I wasn't expecting that to work as well as it did, but thematically it resonated quite well, and I like the acknowledgement that while we don't use swords and political marriages so much these days, it's not like we've STOPPED having enemies and needing to protect ourselves, our homes, and our families. The relationship between modernity and "no particular historical era" in terms of thematic connections was really well done.
The general added depth to all the characters was also excellent, since we had time and space for characterization that the shorts series had to skim over for time. We really felt Rosamund's grief in the book, Leo had way more personality (and I loved that) and some of the plot stuff was smoothed and fleshed out in some really interesting ways. The caladrius was actually an inspired touch, and it tied together a bunch of slightly odd things in the series in a really elegant way. It also gave Baron Mabry and George an interesting parallel too, since they were both screwing over people for financial gain. The methods might be different, but the heart of the crimes and the harm they do are fairly universal.
As a writer, I also ADORED the conceit of Caroline being absolutely out of control in her process. She was trying SO HARD to write a standard enemies-to-lovers romantasy and literally nothing could get her plot or characters there. Every writer has been there, every writer has had little breakdowns over the story just not freaking doing what you tell it to, and there was something deeply vindicating about it. I loved the personification of the writing process.
This book also had a little bit of that Princess Bride feel where it is both a send-up of romance tropes and a deeply respectful nod to them. I don't know that pastiche is the right word here, but neither does parody seem to be, and I think we need a word for this writing mood, where you're both deconstructing and reiterating a series of tropes. I don't have a word for it, but this is a thing that pops up periodically (periodic because it's genuinely hard to do well; lean too far to one side or the other and it flops catastrophically) and we should name it.
Overall, for a book from a YouTuber--especially one who rather famously discovered halfway through the process that she does not enjoy writing fiction--I was pleasantly surprised by this book, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Bearup has told us not to expect a sequel, so I won't...but if one materialized in the future, I'd read it!
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wutheringmights Ā· 3 months ago
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hi! iā€™ve read in the dream house and speak bc of your reviews and Loved them. i find your analyses to be really insightful, i trust that when you recommend something theres Something of value iā€™ll get out of reading it. are there any books youā€™ve loved that you havenā€™t posted abt here yet? and how do you find new books to read? thanks for being so thoughtful abt your own writing and the books you read that it inspires me to study and improve my own work šŸ«”šŸ’ž
Aw thank you! I always feel like I am yelling into the void whenever I make posts about the things I'm reading, so I'm glad you enjoy reading my thoughts <3
For books I haven't posted about yet... I just finished Juniper & Thorn by Ava Reid (and will make a post about it soon). It's not a perfect read, but if you like horror and fairytale tropes, you'll get something about this.
Besides that, I recommend The Bell Jar by Slyvia Plath, and the works of Robert Cormier (I Am the Cheese and The Chocolate Wars are two of my favorites). If you like war stories, All Quiet On the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque is required reading.
I really enjoy the works of Octavia Butler. Kindred is my absolute favorite, but Parable of the Sower is very relevant to the current political moment. Future Home of the Living God by Louise Erdrich also scarred the fuck out of me, but is a great work on reproductive rights.
I did an entire seminar on Virginia Woolf. Besides Mrs. Dalloway, I think Into the Lighthouse and Orlando are very good.
For the classics, I love Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. One of the first classics I ever fell in love with was Charles Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities, though Great Expectations is also exceptional.
One of my favorite books of all time that I never discuss with anyone anywhere is Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, for obvious reasons. Read this book for two reasons. One, it will fuck you up. Nabokov's work with perspective and unreliable narrators is fucking insane. Second, Nabokov does something with the English language that I have never seen before and will probably never see again. If anyone has a command of the English language, it's him.
How do I find books to read? Some of the books I read before they are recommended to me by friends or by someone online. As long as you avoid romance/romantasy, BookTok/BookTube/Bookblr is a great place to get recs. I watch a lot of CariCanRead on Youtube because she reads a massive amount of books I have never heard of and is generally really honest about what books she liked/hated and why. I also windowshop at bookstores and libraries and just check out what is available on the shelves.
Honestly, the best advice I can give you is to let go of the idea of every book being impeccable art. You do not have to always be reading the Great American Novel. You can read books that are silly and outright trash. Once you shed the idea that books are some higher form of art, you remember that they are made to be entertainment. Like movies, there are going to be days where you want to watch post-modern French films or Oscar-winning movies about the turn of the century. There are also going to be days where you want to watch a silly comedy, or a trashy reality TV show, or you just go to the movies for something to do.
It's healthier for you if not every book is life changing. I have read some really bad books (some on purpose), and I have read some books that were just aggressively mediocre. Even if they didn't transform me into a better writer/reader/person, they were still worth reading. And when you give yourself permission to read books you might not necessarily like, it gets easier to try new genres and take risks on unfamiliar works. That's where you get new experiences. That's where a book sneaks up on you and smacks you on the back of the head with something that will absolutely make you change the way you see the world.
If anything, just try reading things you normally wouldn't read, be it sci-fi, memoir, historical epic, classic romance, etc.
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wondereads Ā· 7 months ago
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Weekly Reading Update (04/08/24)
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Reviews and thoughts under the cut!
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut (8/10)
I donā€™t know if Iā€™d say this book was enjoyable; itā€™s non-linear and doesnā€™t really build up to much. However, it is an incredibly strong piece of commentary on the horrors of war as well as many other social issues. While I didnā€™t enjoy it as a story, I thought it was an amazing dissertation and did something very interesting with the sci-fi elements.
The Lost Heir by Tui T. Sutherland (9/10)
This is a really strong book, one that kind of politics-heavy for a children's series and is narrated by an interesting but distinctly flawed character. This one is from Tsunami's perspective who, if I remember correctly, was my favorite of the dragonets, often tied with Glory. The worldbuilding in this series continues to be pretty amazing, and the pacing is good as well. I do wish it was clarified how old these dragons would be as humans because it sounds really weird when you're trying to marry off your six-year-old to your advisor, but the dragonets tend to act more like teens than young children.
Tricksterā€™s Queen by Tamora Pierce (9/10)
This was a strong conclusion to this duology; the way things are wrapped up on the political side do it quite well considering the real-world reflections. I liked this book for a reason I like a lot of Pierce books, which is that she doesn't shy away from the day-to-day struggles of larger conflicts. It's not all huge battles and coups, it's slowly chipping away at a regime's stability through small signs of resistance, dissemination of information, and driving wedges in the ruling class. The characters are really strong, establishing a huge cast very well, especially on the romance side with Aly and Nawat. Dove is an amazing character, and as a reader, despite her age, I could see her being an accomplished queen.
House of Crimson Hearts by Ruby Roe (18+) (CR, 13%)
I was not anticipating a sex scene within the first two chapters of this book, but I'm not complaining. I really like that this sapphic romantasy is being unabashedly sexual, something queer books can struggle to get out there. Plotwise I'm not quite sure what the long-term goal is, but I find Octavia and her backstory very interesting.
To Gaze Upon Wicked Gods by Molly X. Chang (CR, 11%)
So far I'm kind of neutral on this book. The worldbuilding draws me in, as does some of the complex relationships being built up. On the other hand, it feels like there's a bit of info-dumping going on. Instead of weaving information into the narration, there are lumps of explanation that are inserted practically every other paragraph, which is sort of slowing things down for me right now.
Mystery Editing Stuff
I'm mostly just putting this here for my own tracking purposes, but I'm really excited to start talking about this book once it become generally available.
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starfieldcanvas Ā· 2 months ago
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the reason i pay attention to publisher-suggested comps is mainly because i like to judge how much of a shot in the dark it is by the publisher's doubtless-overworked marketing rep.
"for fans of" is a recommendation i expect from my *bookstore*, not the book itself.
i was about to say that the last novels i purchased didn't have comps, but i double checked while getting the links to the books (The Dawnhounds and Grey Dawn, title overlap unintentional) and apparently The Dawnhounds did ā€” "Gideon the Ninth meets Black Sun" ā€” but I ignored that so hard I have zero memory of the Gideon the Ninth comparison and I don't know Black Sun in any case. All I remember about how I made the decision was the blurb.
Being willing to compare yourself to something especially weird and tragicomic and genrewarping like Gideon the Ninth is admittedly a good sign, but I still can't really trust it, because it's entirely possible the publisher just punched in "queer scifi mystery" and picked whatever came back with the highest sales numbers. It's also possible that the author picked their own comps based on the kind of acclaim they wanted and then their publisher (almost certainly cutting corners on everything) didn't actually check to make sure the comps conveyed anything useful.
the thing i hate the most are generic comps. they're just offensive. if the thing you're trying to reference could be said in plain English just as easily, say it in English or die by my blade. when book ads say "Harry Potter meets x" but they actually mean "wizard school meets x" it takes years off my life. If you mean "romantasy with dragons, and also gay" do not say "Fourth Wing meets Red White & Royal Blue" that is just an insult to the noble commercial enterprise of fiction sales and i hope your company goes under.
some books just are not reasonable candidates for comps! comps should ideally suggest some combination of tone, style, darkness level, worldbuilding scope, any especially unique plot beats, any especially notable areas of focus... anything that's HARD to say quickly in English. anything you can say much faster by referencing a similar book or two instead of listing a bunch of otherwise disparate aspects of the work. which is sometimes too subtle a combination to really go well with anything currently trending.
i think comps were kind of interesting when they were an occasional tool used to help market genuine genre mashups or sell people on weird hard-to-explain things, but now that they're nigh-mandatory across tradpub they've lost their charm.
i also think it's unconscionable that authors are now expected to comp their own books in their queries. that used to be something The Rejector (an agent's assistant who judged query letters) made fun of back in the oughts! but now it's GENUINELY required in query letters, because the industry has decided if they can get authors to do the industry's job for them then by god they're going to do exactly that.
Every book marketing demands the author provide ā€œcomp titles.ā€ Iā€™m sure youā€™re familiar. ā€œThis book is like X meets Y!ā€ ā€œPerfect for fans of Q and Z!ā€ And I always wonderā€¦
Let me know what kind of books you read in the tags, Iā€™m curious if this varies by genre
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