#roger hamley

[whenthegoldrays]

Much as I try to understand and accept Austen’s choice to have Fanny end up with Edmund in MP, I admit I’m struggling with his character after having read Wives and Daughters, because he pales so much in comparison to Roger Hamley. Roger is proof that you can see a girl non-romantically, be interested in someone else, and yet still treat your original friend with kindness and not forget about her. *glares at Edmund as he goes into the avenue without Fanny*

So like, I don’t dislike Edmund, I never have, but I simply can’t love him like I love Roger, because the flaws I’ve tried to rationalize and forgive become much more apparent in comparison.

[janeaustenjunkie]

Justine Waddell as Molly Gibson in Elizabeth Gaskell's Wives and Daughters

[thoumpingground]

Louisa May Alcott 🤝 Elizabeth Gaskell:

Writing stout, homely-looking romantic leads with kind hearts, handsome teeth and effeminate "rivals".

[bethanydelleman]

I'm a man written by a woman... Not in a romantic Roger Hamley way, but more in a fucked up Edward Rochester way

I'm a man written by a woman... Not in a romantic Mr. Darcy way, but more in a fucked up Victor Frankenstein way

[thatscarletflycatcher]

It was several years before I read any Lord Peter Wimsey novels that I watched Wives and Daughters (1999), and Lord Cumnor is a very minor character, so it isn't strange that I wouldn't make the connection then, but boy isn't Ian Carmichael an enchantingly perfect casting for the role.

[nastassyafilippovna]

i think becky shouldve tried harder with dobbin he could have been another male sub chained up in her basement like many before him but sadly he was too busy falling in love with minors. i dont like him by the way. youll never make me like a guy thats meant to be sweet and kind but is only acting nice bc the girl he likes is an easy target

[onlymollygibson]

Talk about the novel you're reading as if it's fanfiction

I'll go first:

Wives and Daughters by Elizabeth Gaskell

Length: 190k words

Completion Status: Abandoned, but dont let that stop you from reading this fic. Sadly, the author passed away before she could write the last chapter. She told her beta reader her plans for it and he wrote an ending, but everyone agrees it doesn't have the same flavor as the original. There was a fan film made a few years back and I love their ending, even if it is a bit OOC.

Main pairing: Molly Gibson/Roger Hamley (slow burn, friends to oh-crap-hes-in-love-with-my-sister to lovers)

(Note: the author claims she didn't write rpf, but Roger Hamley is suspiciously similar to Charles Darwin.)

Other pairings: Cynthia Kirkpatrick/Roger Hamley, Cynthia Kirkpatrick/Mr. Henderson, Cynthia Kirkpatrick/Robert Preston, Mr. Gibson/Hyacinth Kirkpatrick, Mr. Gibson/cheese, Hyacinth Kirkpatrick/Robert Preston (one-sided), Osborn Hamley/Aimee, Squire Hamley/Mrs. Hamley

Warnings: major character death, serious illnesses, mentions of 19th century medicine, underage (not the main pairing), mentions of grooming, see also: Robert Preston is his own warning (but the fic doesn't condone his actions), child neglect, financial abuse, 19th century purity culture

A few people have done podfics. My favorite version is read by Prunella Scales but it's behind a paywall (Audible). You can find free podfics on LibriVox.

There is also a fan film which I would highly recommend.

[biboocat]

Wives and Daughters by Elizabeth Gaskell. 1864-1866. The author’s final novel is a domestic tale that focuses on two young women, Molly Gibson and Cynthia Kirkpatrick who became sisters through the marriage of Molly’s widower father, Mr. Gibson and Cynthia’s widowed mother, Clare Kirkpatrick. Their differences quickly become evident: the ingenuous and loyal Molly and the beautiful and artful Cynthia. Mr. Gibson’s medical duties provide a social connection between his family and the upper class families, the Hamleys and the Cumnors. The plot is too involved to go into specifics, but story speaks to the importance of class, the maintenance of social propriety and reputation, and marriage in early 19th century England. I felt that the narrative drive was slow in first half of the book, but the second half gains great momentum, so don’t give up! The story is generally serious, but the shallow, self-centered Mrs. Gibson is comical, and there are a few laugh out loud moments with Lord and Countess Cumnor. Molly Gibson and Mr. Gibson are so good, and the intrepid Lady Harriet is delightful. Elizabeth Gaskell treats the upper class fairly, showing both their snobbery and how they can adapt to circumstances for good. I so admire Elizabeth Gaskell’s wisdom and compassion. She died suddenly before finishing the novel, but I think we can safely predict how the story would have concluded. I recommend Wives and Daughters.

P.S. I see that Rosamund Pike was cast as Lady Harriet in the 1999 television series. I haven’t seen it, but I imagine she would be good in the role.

Memorable quotes:

“But sometimes one likes foolish people for their folly, better than wise people for their wisdom.”

Plot synopsis:

Cynthia becomes engaged to Roger Hamley who goes to Africa on a scientific expedition

In Cynthia’s past she had taken money from Mr. Preston and she promised to marry him in return. She gets out of with Molly’s help, but busybodies misinterpreted as an illicit affair between Molly & Preston by townspeople who spread gossip.

Lady Harriet gets to the bottom of it in a memorable scene with Preston. Eventually Molly is vindicated.

Cynthia spends time with Mrs. Gibson’s brother in London where she flirts with Mr. Henderson.

When confronted Cynthia is indignant and decides to break off her engagement to Roger. She eventually becomes engaged to Henderson.

Suddenly Osborne dies. Molly and her father help Squire Hamley to cope and inform him that Osborne was married to a French Catholic who was a servant and has a son. The wife, Aimee and son appear at Hamley Hall, and Molly and Mr. Gibson help them adjust to their new surroundings. Initially the Squire wanted to keep the child and send Aimee back to France. Later the boy suffered a health scare and the Squire and Aimee bonded over the experience. He later gave her and the boy a cottage to live in near the Hall.

Roger returns to England, and he becomes attracted to Molly. She hesitates thinking it would be improper after his recent rejection by Cynthia. He must return to Africa so their courting is put on hold. He cannot meet Molly because of his exposure to the sick boy, but he stops by the Gibson’s house, and he and Molly see one another from a distance and know that they will see each other one day.

[guiltypleasurefandomface]

Hi! For the fanfic writers ask - 🎶 & 👀?

Hello! I am SO sorry this took so long to get to. I was shaking off the rest of this bug going around and then had to juggle uni and christmas stuff. But here we are!

🎶 Do you listen to music while you write? What song have you been playing on loop lately?

Yes I do! But it depends on a few things at the time of writing, as to whether it’s music with lyrics or classical music. 

Just these last 3 weeks, I’ve listened to KT Tunstall’s version of Mele Kalikimaka on repeat a LOT. 

👀 Tell me about an up and coming wip please!

Ooh, an UP and coming wip! 

Well i’m desperate to finish my WIP True Love’s Kiss, but as for Up and Coming, it could be one of a few. I’ve got one I’d love to finish sometime soon that’s a Roger sick fic. He’s so very sick that he needs to be in the hospital and there are funny moments and feelings along the way. I haven’t decided whether I want it to be a shippy fic or not...

Another WIP that might be completed next is a Frian fic. Freddie’s not being a very good friend which rather sticks the boot in to poor Brian’s unknown feelings. There is much talk of edible paper!

And another WIP that I hope to complete sometime soon, is another Christmas fic I was hoping to get done for this year’s christmas but alas... Set in the 80s, Queen are asked to go visit a children’s ward/hospital. They have the choice of just handing out the presents the hospital provide… but why do that when they could go on a shopping spree in Hamleys?

Thank you so much for asking!

for the fic writer asks

[thequeenofhyperbolee]

You all can fight me on this, but Roger Hamley is up there in the top tier fictional men category with the likes of Gilbert Blythe, Fredrick Wentworth, George Knightley et al.

[pentomic]

opossum names

lilahc stagnel

impelled “imp” lunar

strengthandcalamity herichs van loan

jerthro macmacalbberson

moose names

big river water-stander

salt eater survivor 3 winters

terror to hunters newprovider

forestman/forestwoman barkmaker

(northern saskatoba planecrash clans)

larch mcckelly

youngwood o’brien

waterman textile jones

zebra names

swiftte strider

newman grasser

local “loc” el-villain

pig names

william snuff

hannah ihi hamley

trottier trottière

john pensman pensman

valeria komsumer

elephant names

halaby gigant

yorick standenstein

alligator names

mud sitter

tail lasher

killedtwohunderddeerinonedamnseasonandanyonewhoquestionshim

octopus names

“neck” rogers

“necks” rogers (note: do not ask what these are nicknames for)

gordon g. gordon

henry t r z macpherson

george hum

newmarket shallowwoter

[whenthegoldrays]

continuing my picrew obsession, here are the young people from Wives and Daughters

Clockwise from top left: Roger, Cynthia, Osborne, and Molly

[funkymbtifiction]

Wives and Daughters: Roger Hamley [ISFJ 9w1]

MBTI Type: ISFJ Roger is a naturalist with a love for all things scientific, and he becomes a very learned expert in his chosen field. Because of this, he’s sent on an expedition to Africa to conduct further studies—chosen out of many people who could have done the job. He tries to interest Molly in such things as well, with success (but Cynthia finds it all rather ‘boring’). Since this is his…

[bellesdiaries]

period drama meme: [5/8] couples → roger and molly Molly, tell me, have I done something to vex you?  No. No, you never vexed me in my whole life, Roger.

[thatscarletflycatcher]

"Greta Gerw*g captures so well the Experience of WomanhoodTM" and "we made Flynn Ryder tailored to the type of man women dream about" are the top two things capable of sending me in a rage spiral back to all the bullying I received in my school years for not conforming to bullshit standards of femininity and I think that says so much about me actually.

[nastassyafilippovna]

sorry i thoughtabout mommy hamley and how her husband lovesher and how theyre cute and she is so sick and miserable and all she has is her friend molly who is a teenager but at least she has a friend and its soc ute that mollys friends are old women thats a win for feminism. I LOVE WIVES AND DAIGHTERSSSSSS