#robin def would have done it himself if he could have

[nortism]

the funniest part of ghosts s5 ep6 is how hard robin and the captain are pushing for julian to apologise to alison like they weren’t both very much on board with killing her

[imjustdreamingig]

Isn't that sweet, I guess so

Part 1, Part 2

pairing: Steve Harrington x fem!reader

summary: The secret's out, Steve's proud of himself, and you can't seem to keep your mouth shut

A/N: chat there is no way I put out 2 fic in the past week, this has never happened to me before! yay everyone cheer. again, i have no idea where this story is going how far im gonna go, i def want to try writing other stuff and idk if this is the best place to put and end to whatever this series is but again, we shall see i guess. thank you all so much on the love on my last two works you have no idea what that means to me! please please PLEASE send me asks or comment what you'd like me to write next or if you want a pt4 i need help people

warnings: sfw, swearing, fluff, idiots who like each other

Facing your fears is tough. No matter what it is, no one would actually choose putting themselves through a situation in which they know would cause them extreme distress. For some that may be going on a rollercoaster, interacting with a clown, going into a dark forrest alone, it could even be making a phone call by yourself to schedule a doctor's appointment (which is a valid fear to have, thank you very much.)

And here you were, facing your fears: being sat in your living room with Steve Harrington 3 feet away from you for an extended period of time. It's only been about 15 minutes, where no talking has happened since minute two.

You hope you can get to 30 minutes without fainting.

As you attempted to focus on the book in front of you, Jane Austen's words, who usually kept your focused for hours on end, were not being absorbed by you in the slightest. How could they, when Steve fucking Harrington was in your house.

Steve is the type of guy who Jane Austen would write about, you thought, eyes flickering towards him as he hunched over his book, face crinkled in concentration, trying to understand said author's musings.

The swoop of his hair, the two moles near his neck, his deep, beautiful, chocolate eyes, his gorgeous smile, and my god those arms? Yep, Jane would be absolutely obsessed with him.

"God, why did I agree to do this book?" You are snapped out of your daze at Steve's words. "What do you mean?", you replied. He gave you a look that can only be described as "seriously?"

"I mean, that I can barley understand what any of these characters are saying half the time, and honestly, it's a bit boring. I thought you would have better book recommendations," he said, running a hand through his hair to push it out of his face.

A scoff left your mouth before you could stop it. "Excuse me, are you actually hating on Pride and Prejudice, the best romance story of all time, the romance story, period." You leaned over and snatched his book. "I mean, come on! You are literally only 6 pages in, you can't just judge it that quickly, you haven't even gotten to the good parts yet!", you exclaim.

Steve watched you with an amused look on his face, unbeknownst to you, who kept rambling on, trying to convince Steve this book was worth continuing.

"— and Elizabeth, she is just funny, like actually hilarious. There is one part where she basically tells someone that I'd rather not be wasting my air talking to someone like you, like please, how did she even come up with that? Also, I'm just obsessed with this proper English style of speaking, or writing I guess, because they're basically talking shit but covering it up with fancy words! And when—"

"You talk a lot, don't you?"

You look up from the book and towards Steve, eyes widening slightly, realizing you had indeed been talking too much.

"One of my greatest faults, some may say, and by faults I mean my mom, but she only tells me this when we're arguing, so..." You glance away from Steve's face for a little reprieve. God, he's so hot.

"Well, like a good partner," you continue. "I'm trying to help you get some of this project done, and maybe if Robin were here, she could've helped," you defended yourself, crossing your arms, "which I'm still confused about, by the way. You said something about her telling you earlier how I invited you guys and some other people to work on the project together, but then she doesn't show?"

Steve leans back in his chair, also crossing his arms. You glance down for a quick second and send a quick thank you to anyone who's that Steve is wearing a tight shirt that beautifully enunciates his biceps. Or maybe you should be mad at them, you don't know yet.

"Maybe it's the fact that she noticed, like I did, that it's been a month since this project was assigned and we haven't even started," Steve countered, "which is unlike you, you usually want to get stuff done ASAP."

You look at him in confusion. "How the fuck do you know that?"

Steve smirks, "I also happen to know that you don't have a sister, thanks to that lovely dinner with your mom." You shake your head in disbelief, mentally making a note to yell at your mom later.

"Isn't that what you said one of the many times I asked you to work on the project?" Steve looked so amused with himself, all cocky and proud that he had uncovered your lie. Your brain tried desperately to come up with a realistic enough explanation, but nothing was coming up.

You throw your hands up in defeat. "Ok, fine! I lied! Is it just so hard for you to believe that maybe, just maybe, not everyone in that high school wants to spend time with you outside of it?" Oh my God, why the fuck would you say that, you screamed internally.

Steve stared at you for a second before letting out a chuckle. " You know, I did think of that actually, but only for a bit." He reaches out for the book and grabs it from your grasp, flipping to a random page.

"You can only run away from a guy so many times before he catches a hint," he peers over at you, " and I mean literally, you're a fast runner, did you ever do track?"

"Yeah, in middle school," you answer quickly. Steve lets out a hum of agreement before placing his attention back on the book. You open your mouth, about to quip about being careful to not rip the pages when he speaks again. "I know I'm dumb, but I'm not an idiot, ya know?"

Your gaze snaps to his face. "Steve, I don't think you're dumb." He doesn't look too convinced. "Eh, I think you do. But you're interesting, you took me a lot longer to figure out than the others since girls just typically throw themselves at me."

You make a face of disgust, "Ok, you sound like a total prick, you know."

"Yep, heard it after I said it, but that's not the point here." He point his finger at you, "You have a crush on me."

You splutter out a sound of indignation. "Hello, what?" In your head, fire alarms are sounding. It's a code red, all hell is breaking loose. "Pfft, no I absolutely do not."

Steve raises his eyebrows. "Then how else do you explain the running away when you see me anywhere at school? You always have an insane excuse why we're not able to meet up to start the project, which some are hilarious," he admits, "but you've got me complaining about not doing homework, look what you've done to me!"

At this point you've gone silent, mouth agape with an excuse stuck in your throat refusing to come out. Steve's expression has changed, his eyes bore into yours with earnest, almost as if he's anticipating a certain answer, hoping for it. "So?"

You muster all the courage you have left and just when you're about to respond, Steve interrupts you again for like, the 15th time.

"Anyways, I've to get going, have some things to do and whatever." He gets up, shrugs on his jacket and then places his books in his backpack. You get up too, having absolutely no clue how to tell him not to go, that you want him to stay. "Steve, what do you mean?"

He glances over at you, "Nothing, I just have to go. I'm a busy guy." He starts making his way to your front door, leaving you behind in the kitchen, trying to understand what the fuck just happened. First, he accuses you of having a crush on him, which you do, and then he just thinks he can leave?

Oh, absolutely not.

With a new wave of determination, you catch up to Steve just as he's finishing putting on his shoes. "Say thanks to your mom for me for dinner, it was great," he says as he grabs the door handle. You don't let him continue with whatever stupid thing he was going to say next.

"Listen Harrington, I don't know what the fuck just happened back there, but the fact you think can just, leave after dropping a bomb like that is ridiculous," you say, glaring at him in annoyance, and Steve's just staring back at you with that stupid, stupid, smirk that has not left his face since the moment he stepped foot in here.

"So what if I did like you, huh? What if I did have a crush on you? Because I do, but that, quite frankly, is none of your business, none of your concern, actually, so... yeah." Steve is looking at you and you're looking at him, a little out of breath after your declaration. You don't have the energy right now to fully process what you just said.

All of a sudden, Steve seems to break character, the smugness gone, replaced with subtle endearment. He leans down and presses a swift kiss on your cheek before whispering, "Well, it's a good thing I like you too." He straightness back up and says, "I told you I knew you were different, you're a mystery. You're lucky running away seemed to work on me, by the way. I don't think it would for everyone else," he says while you stare at him in shock. You've been rendered silent once again, with nothing but the thought that Steve likes you back, repeating over and over again.

You clear your throat before speaking, "Well! Um, yay?" You truly have no idea what to do right now. Steve chuckles at your reaction, like he can't believe his words have caused you of all people, who continuously talk and talk and talk, to not have anything profound to say for once. He's kind of into it.

Steve grabs your hand and encases it with the other. "Come over to my house tomorrow after school, I'll drive you. We can work on the project and you know, talk, if you want." You nod fervently, "Yeah, yeah ok."

He smiles and drops your hand. "I really do have to go though, I wasn't making that up," he remarks as he opens the front door. "Oh, sure, that's fine," you reply. You hold open the door for him and watch as he descends the steps and makes his way towards his car. You watch him, holding onto the door for dear life.

As Steve gets into the car, he looks over at you and waves, "I'll see you tomorrow!" You wave back and yell back, "Yeah, tomorrow!" You don't go back inside until the car is out of sight. As you shut the door, you press your back against it, trying to wrap your head around what exactly happened in the last few hours.

Holy shit, you though, Steve Harrington likes me. Steve fucking Harrington. You let out an involuntarily squeal of excitement and immediately regret doing it as your mother calls down from upstairs. "Mija, are you ok? What happened?" Hearing her voice reminds you of her involvement over the events that transpired tonight.

Putting your happiness on hold for a moment, you start to storm up the stairs. "Mom!", you yelled, "How could you embarrass me like that, asking him to stay over for dinner, you know how I feel about him, I just about fainted 5 times throughout the night, how does that make you feel!? You almost killed me an—"

You would thank your mom later, because ultimately she helped, but for now, you'll stick to this.

[rock-in-robins]

so like reverse robins, if done right, i love em. anything reverse robins i ever write will never have Steph become Babs. it doesn't make sense to her character for her to become oracle, would she be great at it, absolutely, but it doesn't make sense.

there's always debate on whether it should be Steph or Tim to die and more or less become Jason. my answer is that Tim get's joker jr'd and kills himself (+ the joker if your so inclined (but joker would have to be revived somehow for plot reasons) (you can make it Bruce if you want more angst)) then Steph becomes robin because Tim always talked about how gotham needed a robin and she wanted to honor him in a way only she could. then the thing with black mask happens and she still fakes her death travels, heals, grieves, and comes back when she heard bruce picked up a new kid. (Jason wasn't robin yet, just living in the manor but Steph new it was only a matter of time)

so she comes back to gotham and decides she's gonna take care of crime alley her way, and revamps her old spoiler costume. (she may not have grown up there but she was a few streets away and she knew what a place like that did to kids) (she also has no ties to Bruce anymore so her no killing thing gets a whole lot more lax)(she kills her father - that's how bruce and the others found out shes back in town). and openly feuds with black mask over territory and brutally maims him but like just a bit.

Then Jason becomes robin and six months later Tim is back. he's different and definitely a bit more unhinged, but efficient as ever. he quickly takes over the drug trade and helps Steph get rid of the worst of the worst. But doesn't do the whole try to make Bruce kill the joker thing, instead he makes Bruce watch as Tim does and warns him that if he tries to revive the joker again (damian aka nightwing def killed the joker & Bruce brought him back) that they Will Have Problems. Tho he is going as Joker Jr. as a fuck you and a threat to pretty much everyone, after all they all knew what happened to the 2nd robin.

In summary Tim & Steph split up the Red Hood traits

Duffle bag of heads - tim, he's dramatic

Died (like burried in a grave and crawled out died) - tim

Guns - Steph

The joker - tim (but steph will shoot the fucker on sight so help her god)

Black mask war - steph (obvi)

Crime alley - steph mainly (but tim lurks around and every crime alley kid & sex worker knows that if they ever need something JJ will take care of it no questions asked)

Drug trade - tim

Scaring/pissing B off - both, they make it a game

Murder - both as a treat

[mamawasatesttube]

With timkon who do you think fell first? And who fell harder?

GOD ive been turning this over in my head all day and it's so hard to answer in those terms i feel like!!! theyre SUCH a friends to lovers in my mind that they just melt into each other so hard. augh lets see though okay okay lemme try

i DO think they both had crushes on each other in their yj98 days. (i mean... "i know i'm gonna die i just wish i could talk to kon one last time" ???? "hey robin anyone tell you your voice drops like an octave when you get all commander-like" I KNOW WHAT YALL ARE.) but i DON'T think either of them realized it. they were both just kids still way too deep in the closet for that.

tim DEFINITELY started going off the deep end wrt kon's death. i think he was still figuring out the whole "bisexuality" thing while getting whammied left and right by shock/trauma/grief all steamrolling him flat in the world's worst conga line, so i don't think he fully registered that the feelings he was having were explicitly romantic, but he was definitely feeling ways. i mean, like. he absolutely kissed cassie as a substitute for kissing kon. when he actually put it together that thats what he was doing, though... i don't think it all really came together for him until after he was done brucequesting and actually got to breathe and let himself process. he was already head over heels at this point. he just didn't know.

for kon, i think it's this really slow, gradual thing, where feelings of friendship melted into a very deep and intimate bond without words somewhere between "best friends" and "romantic partners", again without him really having the self-awareness to put that sort of label on it. post-resurrection kon is just so introspective, i think it just sorta comes to him one day that, like, oh. he'd like to be close to tim forever. he knows he's into guys at this point but bc of his sexual trauma + dating history i do think it takes him a HOT second to clock that this feeling of intimacy and comfort is, in fact, romantic attraction.

so "who fell first" and "who fell harder" is just so confounded by both of them not even fucking realizing they fell for each other for so long kjsdfjksd like arguably they both fell pretty early, and tim fell REALLY hard while kon was dead, but i also don't think they REGISTERED that at all!!! theyre a lil stupid!!!

that said. when they have both figured out they're into each other, kon is def the one who's pretty calm about it like oh :) i love tim and i just want to be near him all the time. whereas tim is out there like oh my god he's holding my shoulder. he does that all the time i will not overthink this but oh my god what if he would hold me more WAIT IM NOT GOING TO OVERTHINK THIS and im NOT going to daydream about OHHHHH MY GOD he put his jacket on me oh fuck oh fuck im going to be normal im NORMAL is that his favorite cologne i can still smell on the collar. oh GOD did he just notice me sniffing the collar of his jacket like a creep ah fuck okay im a creep im a weirdo what the hell am i doing here WHY is this not actually distracting me from the way i can definitely still smell his cologne shit shit fuck-----

(and then they kiss. eventually. <3)

[as-i-watch]

Would you dare to rank the parental figures?

Bellemere, Dadan, Zeff, Hiruluk and Kureha, Kokoro and Tom.

Not sure if Saul enters the category; maybe Clover?

Include Shimotsuki just to put him at the bottom.

Anon sent me other ask to add Genzo to the list and it so shall be

Im gonna rank them from worst to best parent figure imo, considering thei actions, the circunstances and their kids

[Also my sources tell me i havent gotten to Shimotsuki yet so i can rank him]

Just to be clear there's no bad parent figure here they are all good and i appreciate them all

Kokoro - she is amazing, but Chimney was exposed to some dangerous situations. Tho that kid is insane so i get it. And i dont have that much of a register of her dealing with Franky and Iceburg, ofc she loves them but i leave it at that.

Clover - he looked after Robin and he def cared for her, tho i think any decent adult could've done the same

Genzo - i think that for a long time Nami never knew how much he cared for her really, and i think any parent-child relationship has to be two ways. But he does care a lot.

Saul - he tought Robin to cope and to seek hope. Thats priceless. He was there for a short time but he did sacrifice himself for her so...

Hiruluk / Kureha - i cannot separate these two. Hiruluk tought Chopper love and kidness and gave him hope and dream. And Kureha took care of him and always tries to do best for him, tho in her own way which can be a bit ...intense. But they both love Chopper so much in and have such radically different ways of showing it

Dadan - not placing her first it hard for me considering she had to deal with those three gremlins and all the trouble they got into. She's not first bc Garp forced her to take care of the kids and was not like 'ok im a parent now' unlike all the ones that comes next

Bellemere / Tom / Cora-san (yes im adding him bc he's my blorbo) - they all saw their kids and went into full parent mode, they all care for them and did right by them and ultimately sacrificed themself so their kids could live

Zeff - he was built to be Sanji's dad. And to be tasked to be Sanji's dad, jesus the boy is troubled. And his parenting techniques might not be right for someone else but just right for Sanji. But any parent that displays his kid's wanted poster and rebuilts his ship to look like him deserves first place.

[lazaruspiss]

so in Jaydick Jason mostly tops, but sometimes he’s in the mood to get fucked too. Do they invite someone over to get the job done or does Dick do it himself?

i think Dick /can/ top, but it really depends on his headspace!! i think ive sort of talked about it, but he has some hints a sadism in him <3 he could enjoy being dominant or even sadistic, it's really just a matter of how much of a guilt ridden hangover it would leave him with... he could def do a service top thing more easily though, bc it plays into his desire to please and to serve really well!

as for bringing in guests, i think that would be even more complicated than getting Dick to top. they have trust issues!! Dick would have to hold Jason's hand or else he'd just be pacing around worrying.

a poly ship could make this a non issue tho lol. a part of why i like poly robins is bc it feels like it creates a close knit support system, so there's always someone to go to for different things!

[jaybirdwest]

seeing as Dick had to find out on his own, i don’t think Bruce told like. anyone

i would bet that the majority of the people who know the second Robin died found out through Dick (the Titans, mainly).

which also reminds me of something i’ve thought about a LOT: Wally learning what happened to Jason.

Wally was the Flash, the so-called Fastest Man Alive, when Jason, his best friend’s little brother, died. i bet he beat himself up for not having Dick’s (and Jason’s by extension) back while Dick was offworld with the Titans.

and it has to be especially shitty because Wally couldn’t have possibly done anything to help, even if he’d known, because he was slower than he’d been since he was like eleven and didn’t have superpowers. Flash 1987 #22 released the same month as the end of Death in the Family, and that was when he topped out at the speed of sound (hell, the next issue even involves him having actually lost his speed altogether). he probably had to deal with the fact that there was absolutely nothing he could have done to spare his best friend from that pain. for someone who used to be the Fastest Kid Alive (fast enough to beat Barry in a race, even) and able to run faster than light, that would be painful

and you know how some characters go to Flashes like “You can time travel! Go back and undo what happened!” and Flashes have to explain that no, they can’t do that, it’d fuck everything up? well, Wally wasn’t even fast enough to do that if he wanted to. he could barely run for extended periods of time, needed constant food (like, insane amounts that he couldn’t even afford for a while because his metabolism was fucked up. he needed more food than Barry ever did despite being FAR slower at the time.), and his powers were generally… not good. an arc later he gained some speed, but it’d be dozens of issues later, after the Return of Barry Allen arc, where he finally reaches his original speed (and a bit after that when he becomes the fastest speedster ever).

when he learned Jason Todd died (probably from Dick, maybe even the news since he def knew their identities), he’d be immediately confronted with the fact that BARRY could have saved Jason. because this was when he was dealing with a massive inferiority complex around his uncle and the Flash legacy.

Wally could do literally nothing to save his best friend’s little brother and would absolutely beat himself up for that, at a time where he’s already lower than probably ever.

I recently came across these panels of Green Arrow 2001 where Oliver is in the afterlife, and I have some thoughts below.

It’s the line “Spooky didn’t even mention it to me” that really takes me out because how many people did Bruce actually tell about Jason’s death when he was grieving? Obviously Clark knew, he was there in Death of the Family’s aftermath to prevent Bruce from killing the Joker, but if Green Arrow didn’t know, that’s like… a pretty core member of the Justice League.

Batman just went about his JL missions while grieving and internally suffering and at least Green Arrow didn’t notice, but also I don’t know who would have said anything if they did notice. It’s a somewhat known fact in-universe now I think, but I don’t know, it just makes me sad that he didn’t say anything about it when it happened.

[eddiemunson-thehero]

Hii! Could I request reader asking Jonathan Byers and or Eddie Munson for their jacket when reader is cold headcanons

They are friends but Jonathan/Eddie have a crush on reader :)))

(You don't have to do both if you do not want to but please feel free to do both if you do want to :)

Ahhh tysm for the request, this is so cute i can’t resist i have to do both boys.

Warning: ST4 spoilers 

Eddie

The way I imagine this is you and Eddie would be newer friends, after all the chaos that has been occurring with Vecna, however, you’ve always caught Eddie’s eye within the four walls of Hawkins High

Maybe a night out at the movies with Nancy, Steve, Robin, Eddie, and you, maybe even a horror movie with a bunch of jumpscares

You would be sitting next to Eddie and he would notice you hiding behind your hands, not being able to handle the movie

He would also notice that you were shaking, either from fear or the chilly temperature in the theatre

In an attempt to be a knight in shining armor for you, he would offer you his leather jacket, his prized possession, to provide you with some warmth and comfort

Actually, it probably wouldn't even be an offer, he would probably shove the jacket at you, not giving you time to argue with him

He’d probably mumble something to you along the lines of “don't even think about saying no just take it please” 

How could you say no to him i mean my god

Slipping your arms into that jacket, Jesus christ it would be so big and smell just like him, warm maybe like vanilla, like the woods, and of course weed

SNUGGLING INTO THE JACKET FOR WARMTH BUT ALSO USING THE LONG SLEEVES TO HIDE YOUR FACE FROM THE MOVIE

Jesus christ I want to be friends with Eddie so much

Jonathan

Okay since season 4 has done nothing but tease the demise of nancy and Jonathan :( I'm gonna write this as if they broke up

You and Jonathan met when he moved out to California with his family, quicking bonding over both of your new-found love for weed

Becoming fast friends with the quirky man himself, you were often invited over to the Byers residence

Joyce would absolutely love you, and El would appreciate having another female figure to look up to and learn from

So one night in the fall after dinner at the Byers you and Jonathan would excuse yourselves to go on a walk 

Def so yall could smoke

Finding a nice secluded park you guys would share a joint, just enjoying each other's company

As the sun sets the wind would be picking up a bit, and the chill of the air would hit your bones immediately

Being high didn't help either

Jonathan being the attentive guy he is would notice your right away and offer you his jacket, already shrugging it off of his shoulders and wrapping it around you 

“Here please, take my jacket it's getting cold, don't want you getting sick, smoking with Argyle isn’t as fun as it is with you”

He’d watch you curl yourself into his jacket and his heart would melt

He’d also def be pissed that he didn’t have his camera on him to take a picture but would make a mental note for next time

I feel like the jacket would smell warm, again maybe like vanilla and cedarwood, as well as like laundry detergent

God what I would do to ugh I love him so much 

Tysm for this request!!! feel free to send in some more :)))))

[ghosttownwherenoonegoes]

something won't leave me alone for days now and i need to ask, i hope i'm npt bothering 🙈🙈🙈🙈 i saw the discussion abt eddie being kinder to the cheerleaders than the girl he startled (over on @munson-maidens blog but you rebloged it too) and keep wondering. i think he was really kinder to the cheers than the other girl cause he found the cheers pretty but he wasn't mean or rude to the other girl? like yeah he was kinder to the cheers but he wasn't unkind to the other girl he was still a gentleman like munson-maiden says with not getting to close and hands behind his back and smiling and he def would've let her pass too and he didn't jump at her cause he found her unattractive but cause she was there and he wasn't unkind or a prick to her. i just see two sides with the eddie is only nice to pretty cheers and that makes him a prick stance or people who say he wasn't nicer to the cheerleaders. but can he be a bit nicer to girls he finds pretty and still be a true gentlemen? he wouldn't treat anyone with less kindness cause of their looks so, honest: would it make him a prick if it is like i said that he was nicer to the cheers cause he found them prettier?

Hey anon!

You’re never a bother! I’m happy to hear from you and I adore answering asks (though I haven’t done so for a while and I need to be better about my time management so I don’t keep people waiting for too long💀).

I actually reached out to @munsons-maiden about this because she hadn’t said anything about this overall topic which I didn’t agree with (I have yet to disagree with Kiki on anything Eddie Munson related, she GETS him so well it hurts🤧🤧🤧), and I thought she could sum all of this up better than I can!

So here’s what Kiki said:

There are two types of men: those who respect women, ALL women regardless of their appearance, and those who don't respect women (the latter treats pretty women kinder but that's never genuine, that's because they want something from them and they'll stop being kind if they got or don't get what they want).

The question isn't whether he's especially kind to girls he finds pretty, but whether he'd treat any girl he doesn't deem pretty with LESS kindness, and the answer is no he wouldn't, because he genuinely respects women. Imagine the girls would have been "not pretty", and imagine him just not letting them pass. Feels so much ooc that I can't even imagine it. He would have let any girl pass, the fact that it were cheerleaders just shows that he's a gentleman to women even if they're rude to HIM. He wouldn't have jump-scared the cheerleaders because he thinks Chrissy (and by extension all cheerleaders, because pretty and popular) were mean and scary, but that doesn't have anything to do with being a gentleman or not. The jump-scaring itself isn't unkind or rude or pokes fun of that girl's appearance, if anything, Eddie is endorsing the freak label and playing himself a fool.

Plus, he treats Robin gentlemanly despite Robin not being the classical cheerleader beauty type as well, and his "Chrissy, this is for you" line was, according to Joe himself, not meant in a romantic way despite his crush, but to avenge her as a person. No man who lacks genuine respect for women would do that because Chrissy is dead, and he doesn't gain anything by dedicating the song to her.

In the end, everything can be interpreted ambiguously, and people tend to see what they want to see. How a scene is intended to be interpreted is determined by the rest of what we know about a character and the situation, and we get to know Eddie well enough to exclude the option that he's not a genuine gentleman.

I was very kindly given permission to copy and paste this into this answer, and I hope it gives you more food for thought!💖

[narrators-journal]

i saw u said u liked the kinktober request u were given for loki x akechi, do u think u could do something that was like, nsfw robin hood x akechi x loki? or maybe nsfw ren x loki? there isnt enough persona fucking love :( i know u said u werent taking prompt rqs anymore but if u could keep the size difference aspect in that would b great 💞

Oh, Kinktober being over doesn't mean you can't ask for kinky asks lol. It just means you aren't limited to a specific list of prompts.

Also, I went with Ren/Akira x Loki here just for some fun. Hope ya don't mind <3

CW: Size difference, monsterfucking, a fair amount of cum, more than usual. Also I don't think it's ENTIRELY dubcon, but it def falls near that territory a lil, so be warned.

Loki was massive for a persona. At least double Akechi's height, with a set of crimson fangs revealed in a wolfish grin and a black-and-white body pattern that was dizzying to look at. Plus, to add to his already intimidating height, the creature had a pair of striped horns jutting out of his head. He was nightmarish to look at.

But, at the moment, Akira was more concerned about the inch-long claws Loki was ghosting over his body. Akira guessed to find his weakest spot since the persona didn't seem to have eyes. All while pinning his back to the grimy, concrete floor of mementos.       "Are you going to kill me?" Akira muttered to the creature while keeping an eye on the massive hand that explored him and shredded his clothes with ease.

This wasn't Akira's first fight with Akechi's odder monster. They'd already fought once on Shido's ship. This time, though, was the first time Loki showed an odd curiosity for him. An interest that didn't seem strictly malicious, to boot.

In their first meeting, Loki had done everything in his power to kill the dark-haired phantom thief. This time, though. Despite chasing Akira through the mildew-scented halls of Mementos like a wolf after a lamb. The towering persona now handled him with uncharacteristic gentleness. Only using enough force to keep Akira trapped under one of his taloned hands on the cold concrete floor. And only pressing his claws into him enough to shred his clothes as well as leave light scratches along his skin. He wasn't aiming to gut him or peel his skin from his bones.         "Loki?" He asked again, eyeing his hand as it drifted lower over his pants. Yet, the only answer he got was a low chuckle.

Instead of getting an explanation, Akira was left to figure it out for himself. Which, wasn't hard to do after Loki pulled his shredded pants off to leave him in only his thin boxers.         "L-Loki?! What the fuck are you doing?" Akira asked. Trying to push himself into a sitting position despite the hand on his chest. But, the persona only applied a little bit more pressure to keep him where he was. At his mercy. With no hope to hide or escape.

That thought shouldn't be as hot as it is...

Despite that logical thought. Akira's member couldn't help but twitch in some twisted hope. A hope that was fed when Loki slid a pad of his finger from his knee, along his inner thigh, to his groin. Where the persona ground his palm into him and chuckled at the way Akira humped into his hand a bit. Oh god, I'm acting like a whore. The thief thought as his cheeks flared a dark red. Yet, it didn't stop him from humming and moaning under Loki's careful touch.

When the persona finally got his boxers off, his member was throbbing and his skin zipped with need. Which earned another low chuckle from Loki before the creature lowered his head. opening his fang-filled jaws to let his long, black tongue slither out and wrap around Akira's eager member.

In response to the sudden, slick warmth coiling around to stroke his dick, the thief once again began to squirm against the hand that still pinned him. Biting back more moans and whines under the assault of mind-numbing lust. All while the creature stroked him. Thoroughly coating his member in saliva before the prehensile appendage unwound to slide lower.           "H-hey!" Akira yelped. Instinctively trying to worm away from the tongue pressing into the thief's hole. Not stopping until he had completely stretched the thief and left no inch of his walls untouched.

Especially not his prostate. Once Loki had located the specific spot that made Akira squeeze down on the thick muscle buried in him, the uncanny persona wasted no time in abusing it. Trying to force out as many needy or surprised moans as possible. Resulting in Akira almost painting himself with warm, sticky cum.

But, before he got that carried away in the heated euphoria the persona was maybe wickedly sending through him, Loki retracted his tongue. Leaving the dark-haired phantom thief dizzy with a restless need crawling over him.

God...what is wrong with me? Why am I so into this? Akira asked himself while he lay on the cold concrete. Shivering and panting while he tried to wait out the desire swirling around in his body like a hurricane. At the same time, Loki rolled the dazed phantom thief into his palm. That way he could pick him up and press Akira's back to his chest.

The new position gave Akira a good look at the thing that the persona seemed to have the ability to manifest at will. It was easily a foot long, and thick on top of that.         "Hey, h-hold on." The red-faced thief panted, "That...that thing's not going to fit inside me if that's your plan." His complaint went unheeded. All the persona did was situate his hand so he could hold Akira without cutting him too bad. Using his free hand to hold the thief's leg so he couldn't squirm while straddling his warm cock.

The tall creature purred at the noticeable difference in size between them. Though he could've also been pleased with the sight of his precum dripping down onto the leg he left to dangle. And, while shameful to admit, Akira couldn't stop himself from shuddering and throbbing in the same anticipation.

Akira hadn't taken himself as much of a monster fucker. No other persona had caused such a strong heat to bubble up in his loins. Yet, he couldn't seem to help himself reaching out and running his hands up Loki's impressive length. Spreading the drops of thick precum that leaked from the tip of the throbbing member. Not that the fluid would be a proper lubricant, but it would have to do. Since the dark-haired eighteen-year-old didn't think Loki could manifest lube.

Plus, Loki seemed to enjoy Akira's hands on him. judging from the odd noises Akira could feel rumbling against his back and the extra precum that trickled out of his cock. Though, whatever pleasure the thief's actions gave off didn't seem to be enough. because after only a few moments Loki was lifting him up again. Keeping Akira's back to his chest while he slid him up until he was above the tip of the creature's cock.           "Oh god, please don't expect me to take all of that..." Akira muttered, trying to crane his neck to see the demonic creature's face as he spoke. but his attempt got cut short when Loki pushed him down onto his member. Purring again at the startled yelp the move got.

The feeling was maddening. Akira could feel himself stretching. No part of his hole left untouched until his body could take no more. Once that point had been reached, and Akira's conflicted whines of pained pleasure had subsided to whimpers, Loki lifted him up again to push him back down. Going slow, and squeezing the thief's shaking thigh as he used him like a fleshlight.

Thankfully, the creature seemed aware of the fact that Akira couldn't take him to the base. So he didn't force him to take his entire length. But, when the ebony-haired thief's noises became more obvious moans, their size difference didn't seem to cross the creature's mind. He just let his thigh go in favor of planting that hand on the concrete.           "Ngh- No, h-hold on..." Akira breathed, having enough experience with Akechi to guess the creature's plan. Yet, like his complaint about the size of his cock, Loki ignored him in favor of finding a rougher pace. Meanwhile, all Akira could do was yelp and claw into the persona's hand, muttering curses as his body jolted under the quicker pace. Drowned in body-shaking pleasure laced with pain.

Getting stuffed to the top with each thrust stung like a bitch and surely bruised the dark-haired phantom thief inside and out. Yet, in that same breath. Loki's thrusts also washed Akira in pleasure so hot that his thoughts turned to smoke. Leaving the smaller male at the mercy of the creature that was intent on breaking him. Giving pleased hums and purrs each time Akira's body jolted in his hand from the rough, quick force of his thrusts, or the thief squeezed around his cock.

Akira, meanwhile, only whimpered and moaned. Devolving into a mess under the assault of pleasure that shot through him like lightning. Driving him closer and closer to release until he was finally sent over the edge in a sudden blinding flash of euphoria.

Loki, though, kept humping into him. Shamelessly using the phantom thief as a toy. Until the shock of burning heat pouring into him yanked Akira out of the mindless bliss and made him yelp. But, Loki staunched his thoughtless attempts to squirm free by tightening his hold on the smaller male a little bit. Though even that slight pressure on Akira's midsection made the persona's thick load leak down his thighs.

It would be hell walking out of Mementos, but for now...Akira only melted into Loki's hand like hot butter.

[stars-n-scars]

Modern au because fuck period typical homophobia. Loosely based on the song talk to much by coin. Also, thanks to @bottombur for giving me the motivation to write this. Based of this post.

Robin has never hated anyone more in his life.

Okay, maybe that's an exaggeration but, the way Bruce looks at Finney is making his blood boil.

Group study session they said. It will be fun they said.

"Okay, we're all done with the homework!"

At any other time, Robin would be delighted to see Finney happy like this but, Robin couldn't get over the way they looked at each other. Robin had finally had a sliver of hope that finney liked him back, But then bruce had to ruin it.

Finney had just come out to robin as bisexual, then saying he had a crush on someone but refusing to say who. Now thinking back he probably meant Bruce not me, Robin thought, mad at himself.

"Okay, well I'm going to leave now. See you guys at school!" Bruce said putting his folder in his bag. "Bye Bruce, we'll see you at school!" Finney said waving at Bruce as he walked out the door.

"Robin, I know you're mad at me. I'm sorry. I should have never told you. You didn't talk the whole time. Im so sorry. You probably thought I didn't think I was paying attention. I saw you wrote nothing down. Im sorry" Finney sighed and sat down putting his head in his hands.

"I'm not mad" Robin mumbled quietly but, loud enough for Finney to hear. Finney shot him a confused look. The whole time Finney thought robin was mad at him because he was bisexual. "Well, you've been acting weird ever since I told you."

"No I haven't"

"Yes you have"

"No"

"Yes you have"

"no, I haven't"

"Yes, you def-"

"Finney could you just shut up for once" with that Robin stormed out of the door grabbing his backpack on the way out. He didn't even care he if left some of his things there. He just wanted to get out of that house.

Finney grabbed his arm turning him around to face him. Finney looked at robins face, studying it. "Your jealous" Finney said after an uncomfortable minute. "What, no I'm not. What would I be jealous of?" Robin replied, lying to himself and finney?

"I don't know, I'm not you. But my best guess is our friendship." Finney shrugged. "Close enough, I guess" Robin whispered quietly. "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have brought Bruce. I'm sorry. I didn't help you at all. And me and you are better friends than me and Bruce will ever be."Finney rambled

"Oh my God, you talk a lot," Robin said shutting him up. "Yeah, I'm sorry. It just anyti-" Robin kisses him successfully shutting Finney up.

"I should do that more often.

Thanks for reading!

[that-thing-that-feeling]

what are your reasons for thinking they might kill off Jonathan? I'm worried for him next season as well. One of the biggest show criticisms is that it was unrealistic that all the main characters have avoided permanent death. They teased it with hopper and max but never followed through. If they decide to give in to that criticism and do it in the final season I can see them doing it with Jonathan because he's the character they have shown least interest in.

People argue it won't be Jonathan because it won't make much of an emotional impact on the Audience but I don't think they would care so much about that because they've done that with other characters. It would be more likely done to prove people wrong that they're too scared to kill off a main. As for the impact on Joyce and will, with it being the final season they'll probably gloss over their grief by doing a big time jump where they've moved on and come to terms with it.

It’s for exactly these reasons. While I think it’s still unclear if they’re killing off a main (and I hope they don’t), it seemed like they were weighing it.

Characters they wouldn’t kill:

The kids—I just don’t think they’d do that, it would be too cruel. They wouldn’t leave that without major consequences which can’t happen since it’s the final season. They have already come close to it with Max. El and Will will go thru hell in s5, but both will be safe at the end (it defeats the purpose of the whole show to kill either)

Steve—they won’t put Dustin through that again. They essentially killed Eddie to not kill Steve.

Robin—idk I just don’t think they’d kill her. I think they will show her happy in love by the epilogue.

Nancy—they wouldn’t kill her, she has v clear future plans that they will show and it undercuts how they’ve built her plotline.

Hopper—he already was dead and came back, they’re not going to kill him again, plus Jopper reasons

Karen and Ted—Hmm idk actually Karen could be a possibility, but killing parents has big stakes.

Character I’m a bit worried about:

Joyce—I was initially more worried they could kill Joyce. If the season has a focus on Will, she would sacrifice herself for him. However, I don’t think they’d do that to Jopper and have Will lose his mom

Character they could kill:

Jonathan—if Will is a focus, he could put himself in the way of danger for him. Plus the comment that having them reconnect was impt (altho then we found out they added that scene last minute). But most of all it’s what you say: they’ve so underwritten him and so underdeveloped all his relationships, he’s the main that could be killed without having to show the consequences, which is what they kept discussing in that interview. Because they’re the least interested in him and he is the one the audience is the least interested in, it’s a way to kill a main and have it not be some huge thing, because they haven’t treated him as a main. They’ve also made his future plans/goals now unclear, and while Joyce, Will, and Nancy would be sad, they would find a way to gloss over it and they’ve de-emphasized those relationships. It also means the big bad does get a Byers brother, just not the one you’d think from the first season.

Mind you I’m not hoping Jonathan is killed; don’t take this that way. I’m just worried he’s the easiest main for them to kill, and so they might, if they go that route. They might not kill a main and kill Murray or something, idk. Or not kill anyone except the big bad.

Character who will def die:

Vecna/Henry/One/the MF

[ectonurites]

You know what I think would’ve been a good, in-character brotherly gesture for Jason to make? Killing Captain Boomerang. Why have I never seen this done in fic before

Ooooh that is interesting!

I’m surprised that hasn’t been more of a thing tbh. I could def see Jason and Sasha targeting him in the post-canon of the Pre New 52 world, especially if you take some of the ideas from how Convergence Batman & Robin implied things went with them to a setting without the actual Convergence event (like the idea that they did stay in Gotham just laying low, and that Jason would be open to working with the bats should a need arise and does still care about them)

Because realistically if pre-reboot Jason wanted to start mending some of his relationships with the fam a little bit he’d do it in his own way, which would be through something like killing those who wronged them more than anything else.

I think that could also be really interesting for Tim because of how he had almost killed him. That’d just be a fascinating conversation between them, like how Tim might react. Angry that Jason killed again or angry that Jason got to kill Boomerang after Tim had held back and not gone through with it himself? Dealing with feeling kinda glad he’s dead but not really feeling better about what happened to his dad. Would he accept it as the almost peace offering Jason likely intended it to be, or would he see it as Jason causing trouble and pushing buttons by targeting someone like that? Would Jason know about Tim’s whole attempt on Boomerang’s life and this was by some extension finishing the job Tim wouldn’t do, or was it a more independent action?

There’s a lot of interesting things to think about in that scenario you’ve got my brain going bzzzz

[kaypeace21]

Hey Kay! I was wondering... I'm thinking of writing a Byler fic. Is there anything that's missing from the current fic library that you think would be good to see, in terms of tropes, characterisation, things to explore, etc? I would also appreciate hearing from your followers. Just any ideas that people would like to see in a fic.

yeah sure ...

1)We need more povs from Mike’s perspective. (Almost all are from Will’s pov - let’s mix it up sometimes)

Mike in canon is the pinning-gay -(overly romantic) whipped one , but we never see it. And he’s pretty much never written this way! Mike in s3 has 6 drawings from Will on his wall  (he kept them up since s1-for years- despite replacing the poster on the same wall). Has even caressed extra drawings of Will’s that he’s kept in his binder.  In s1 wrote a whole story for Will about defeating a monster and giving the king it’s  7 heads (cause Will rolled a 7 when the demogorgan attacked him.) And as a Star Wars fan he had his own character be given a medal by the king (like how leia gave the medal to Han for his heroism.) He attacked people for insulting Will. Literally hates apologizing -but is quick to do so for Will . Boy ran in the pouring rain twice for Will- disobeying cops, the government, and his parents to do so. He initiates every byler moment (arm thing, hand touch, ‘best thing i’ve ever done’, ‘crazy together, right?’, always asking Will “what’s wrong?” or “are you ok?” etc). And was upset at Will dancing with a girl + insecure about Will replacing him -after he moves away.

-but 90% of byler fanfics (don’t get me wrong some are good) are from Will’s pinning perspective. Also do people realize Mike is clearly the more romantic/ emotional open of the 2 while Will is clearly the more emotionally closed off/aloof one?  He loves Mike too- but he’s def less obvious about his feelings- based on how he behaves. Will rarely opens up to people (Mike being an exception). But, it’s never written that way (usually it’s the opposite).  

2) as a gay women all the reductive stereotypes annoy me. it’s obvious when fic writers try to have the gay romance be modeled after het romance- and try to make one into the ‘girl’/ ‘guy’. Duffers don’t stereotype  Mike or Will but a lot of fanfiction writers do in order to make the gay romance resemble a straight one more (canon character traits, be dammed). Please, stop pushing heterosexual dynamics on gay and lesbian couples and trying to make one “the girl” and “the guy”. It’s very offensive and innaccurate.

Because he’s taller and most people head canon him as bi they make Mike a jock (despite in canon having horrible aim and not being able to run as fast as the rest of the gang). And Will (since most see him as gay) is weak/ sucks at sports compared to mike...despite knowing how to use a bat, shoot a gun, and being able to tear castle byers apart with his bare hands . Also nothing in canon shows Will likes to wear makeup and dress in drag (but it’s a constant thing that i’ve heard come up or heard others mention). It would be fine if he wanted to express himself in such a way. And if it only came up in an occasional fic it wouldn’t be a big deal. But it’s such a common theme that comes up (despite no canon evidence) that in most cases it just screams ‘straight writers trying to make Will into “the girl”’.  Not to mention the huge emphasis of their height difference (shows this too). It can get annoying calling him “short” & “petite” (a term used for women) when will isn’t even the shortest guy member- and now his actor is way taller than gaten (dustin) a bit taller (I think?) than caleb (Lucas) and barely shorter than finn (Mike’s actor). But writers even in future fics write him as short...ok? ya’ll really can’t let go of making Will “the girl.” Cause ya’ll incorrectly equate shortness to femminity. It’s tiring. Some writers straight up say he’s “pretty “, “feminine” or “looks like a girl” 🙄

3) it’s not byler if it’s unrequited- stop tagging it as such

4) more emphasis on Will’s passions(art, writing, horror movies). Maybe in his upbringing with Lonnie.And jon being a good bro to him. Will’s Mental health issues maybe ?

5) mike is a socially awkward, clumsy, unathletic, (caring) science/sci-fi /D&D loving nerd. In au whatever- but mike is not a bro-y jock, or a cool bad boy. 😂 plus , more writer mike would be nice to see

6) headcanon him all you want -but at this point it’s pretty obvious (to me at least) Mike never loved el,and was just lying/confused/ projecting Will on her. And El is/was also confused and never loved mike.   so it would be nicer to see that instead of Mike just ‘falling out of love’ with her. Mike is gay. people say in s3 Will saying “a day free of girls” is gay coded but everyone ignores Mike in s3 saying “BOYS ONLY”. same energy. writers even threw in a telemarketing joke so Mike says in s3 “El? no. sorry not interested.” And Mike has more rainbow refs than Will.  Boy is clearly gay not bi (way too much evidence to talk about here) .  They even  compare mileven to ted/karen who “never loved each other.”   The  writers make fun of mileven constantly and say over and over it’s not actually romantic - (if you choose to read just 1 link read this one  and get with the program) . plus, most Bi dudes  wouldn’t stop being attracted to a girl the more fem she gets (and only be attracted to her when she looks like a “guy”(specifically their guy friend).which yes the characters in s1 said over and over again that El looked like a “boy”/“will”.  And then they have him Makeout with her while putting up a  drawing of said male bff on the wall (cause now she looks less like him) and so he needs to look at said bro, to stomach the makeout seshes/ and in an effort to transfer said romantic feelings from guy friend to gf. Then push his gf’s hands off himself during the kisses- sing to stop kissing, and  kiss to mostly show off how straight he is. And without said pic- not kiss back and just keep his eyes open and not reciprocate. Nor would they have Mike equate het romance to something he thinks he has to do as a part of growing up . Bi dudes consider falling for a girl as simply romance not a foreign idea that has to be done cause there’s no other option and that’s ‘just what old people do’. Mike claims el is the only girl he’s ever had feelings for - but like dustin said mileven is “bullshit “ (stancy parallel -where nancy was not in love but faking it). So mike’s never been into a girl and is also into Will... so...

7) it’s the 80s they can’t just be open/ have pda in public (you could have gotten k*lled or beaten severely.) And most of their friends/fam would not take it well initially. (I think jon, Karen , and steve/robin would take it well... but not most of the crew.) although they’d all prob come around eventually . -Takes me out of a fic to have such historical revisionism when everyone is just totally fine with byler and they’re out to the public/strangers.

but that’s just me. What about you guys?

[strangerfictions]

Fight Part II

Prompts: “don’t give me space. That’s the last thing I want from you”, “I know I shouldn’t be here”, “What’s this between us?” - Pinterest

Summary: Billy told you something that you didn’t expect while you were suffering from concussion, so you ignored it until Billy started to ignore you. With the help of Robin and Max you realize you have something to tell him too, so you make the decision to talk to him and see where things go.

Warnings: A lot of angst and a bit of fighting maybe?

Words: 2194

Read Part One Here!

A/N: Okay so I have been working on this for a few weeks now. It has taken me so long thanks to both college and the fact that I had to restart it about five times because it didn’t flow well or just didn’t feel right. This is the first time I have done a part two of a fic I have written, and I am super happy with how it turned out. This has now been sitting in my rafts for well over a week and I have been meaning to post it! Hope you all enjoy! Feedback is greatly appreciated!

Edit: I had to repost this thanks to tumblr acting a bit weird but hopefully thi time it works out a little better!

It had been a week since the fight and things between you and Billy couldn’t be any more awkward. Billy still brought you to and from school but there was never much of a conversation. The night of the party was a little blurry for you thanks to the concussion, but you could remember everything he had said to you. You still couldn’t take it in, but you wanted to move on, but Billy was making that difficult for you.

It was a fresh week and you hoped that meant Billy would be back to himself. Like clockwork you hear his car come to life and you run downstairs shouting a goodbye to your parents. Before you even get into the car you can already tell Billy is still being awkward. He is sat bolt upright and refusing to even acknowledge you coming out of your house. You were sick of this and you were determined to say something.

When you get into the car you notice his black eye and split lip. You couldn’t help but wince knowing the exact pain he was in.

“Hey” Billy just nods driving down your street.

“Really? You are still being weird with me? Why are you so damn stubborn? It’s like you are going out of your way to make me feel like its all my fault when you were the one to confess to me!” You raise your voice slightly not meaning to, but you can tell from the look on Billy’s face that it has an effect.

“Fuck seriously Y/N? You know how hard this has been on me? First you beat up my fri3nds and then this shit. It takes two to have a conversation and last time I checked you didn’t put much effort in either!” You recoiled back into the seat a little as Billy begins to shout at you. You can feel your eyes begin to sting and so you turn and look out the window watching Hawkins pass by you in a blur.

“Maybe if your friends weren’t such dicks Billy, I wouldn’t have to get into a fight with them. They aren’t the ones who patch you up after every damn fight you get in are, they? They are all the type to peak in high school Billy and it looks like you’re going to be the same” Your voice cracks and luckily Billy pulls up outside school and you quickly get out before he can say anything else.

You walk towards the doors pulling them open as you hear Billy shouting after you. You run down the hall passing Steve and Robin who try to catch your attention before you go into the bathroom. You enter a cubicle and try to calm yourself down. You hear the bathroom door open and shut and the tap of shoes across the tiles.

“Y/N? You okay?” Robin calls out through the bathroom. You reach out and unlock the door pulling it towards you and leaving the cubicle.

“Yeah I’m fine. I had another fight with Billy and I just needed to calm down a little sorry.” You walk over to the sink splashing cold water on your face as Robin sits up on the counter beside.

“Again? I blame the sexual tension between you two!”

“Robin!” You were surprised she would even say such a thing.

“What? I always felt there was a little tension between you two and then I saw how he acted after the fight and I knew there was something going on there!” You nod knowing you had to tell her what he said to you. You check that all of the stalls are empty before saying anything.

“Well that night when he brought me home, he told me he liked me, and he has been really off with me and that’s what we fought about today. I brought it up and he got a little angry and so did I and we both said things we regret. As per usual…” You sit up beside Robin who has a massive smile plastered on her face.

“Wow I knew it. This is pretty big Y/N! Please tell me you told him you like him back because if you didn’t, I understand why he isn’t talking to you!” You wince at what she says remembering the night.

“I was concussed I didn’t know what I was saying!” You try to defend yourself, but you know Robin is right.

“Shit you’re right…I hate that you’re right. Can you ask Steve if he can give me a lift home?”

“I know I’m right I wouldn’t say it with full confidence if I didn’t know I was right! Yes, he will give you a lift he has no choice!” The bell rings and Robin pulls you towards your first class.

All day you have done your best to avoid Billy. You knew you couldn’t face him after everything you said. You knew what you said was wrong and would effect Billy because he already thought it was true. By last period you were ready to get home and collapse into bed and sleep for the rest of eternity, but you knew you had to apologise to Billy. Mo matter what it took.

By the time you got home both Steve and Robin had hyped you up to tell Billy that you do in fact like him a lot and that you regret everything you said. You wouldn’t blame him if he hated you for everything you said but a small part of you hoped things would work out. As you walk into your house you are hit with smell of cookies. It almost as if your mom knew you were having a bad day.

“Something smells good” You say as you push the door open to find the entirety of the Hargrove family sitting at your dinning table.

“Y/N! I invited the Hargrove’s over for dinner. I was a little surprised that you hadn’t come home with Billy” You put on a fake smile hoping it will conceal everything going on.

“Oh yeah…I had to stay behind and do some work with Robin for an English report so Steve said he would drop us both home. Actually, mom I’m not feeling to great I think I’ll pass on dinner I’m going to go and do my homework” Your mom doesn’t question anything and allows you up to your room.

You get changed into comfy clothes and get started on your homework. A little while later you hear a light knock on your door. You turn around to find Max standing at your door with a plate full of cookies.

“Hey kiddo!”

“Hey…I guessed you might be a little hungry since your not actually sick” Max sits down on your bed handing you the plate of cookies.

“How did you know?” You ask taking a big bite out of the still warm cookies.

“Billy’s guilty face” You smile knowing the exact face she is talking about.

“Funny this time it isn’t just his fault. I messed up…said a few things I shouldn’t have and now I need to apologise and tell him something pretty big” You sigh savouring the taste of the cookie before swallowing.

“That you like him?” You snap your head towards Max who has a big smile on her face.

“God first Robin now you…I swear you two are literally sisters separated at birth. How did you know?”

“Intuition and the weird tension between you. It’s very obvious…even my mom has noticed it” Max grabs a cookie and takes a huge bite out of it

“Shit…I…I’m kind of surprised by that actually. I guess I should bite the built all things considering. It’s not like I have much left to lose.” You finish your cookie and grab another one.

“Exactly! I better see you getting in his damn car tomorrow morning and him smiling because I’m sick of him being in this crap mood!” You nod knowing what you have to do now.

After awhile they all leave and its just you and your parents at home. You lay on your bed and think about what to do and how to tell Billy. You can hear the lull of the TV from downstairs as you take  in the noises around you. You hear the rain hit your window as you watch as it drips down hitting the frame.

Your parents go to bed early and you decide there is no time like the present. You get u and pull on a hoodie and some shoes. Thankfully you are on the ground floor so you can jump out of your window easily. You run across the road to Billy’s house. The rain getting heavier the nearer you get to the front of his house. You quietly walk around the side to his window. As you approach you can see his light is still on and as you get closer you can hear he is listening to Def Leppard. You stop outside his window and knock lightly catching his attention straight away. He looks up from whatever he is reading. You can see him visibly sigh as he gets up to open his window. You watch as he walks towards you. You cant help but feel the nerves build in the pit of your stomach. In one swift push Billy’s window is open.

“What do you want?” Billy whispers as you play with the sleeve of your hoodie.

“I know I shouldn’t be here, but can we talk please?” You ask quietly hoping not to wake his family.

“Why? So, you can insult me again? Don’t think so Y/N” Billy goes to close the window, but you place both of your hands on the windowsill.

“I’m sorry okay! I didn’t mean any of it and it was cruel of me to say those things because I know that’s the opinion you have of yourself. It was such a shit thing for me to do and I regret it so much because I might lose you and I really cant imagine life without you. I’m sorry about fighting with your friends, I’m sorry for making you look after me, I’m sorry for not telling you I love you and I’m sorry for being such a shit person sometimes” The rain is even heavier now as you continue to confess everything to Billy.

“Shut up and get in here” Billy holds out his hand helping you into his bedroom. As soon as you are in his room, he drops your hand and walk towards his bed throwing himself onto it.

“Thanks” You mumble shifting from one foot to the other starting to feel uncomfortable.

“So, you love me?” You look up from fiddling with your fingers to find Billy smirking at you.

“Uhmm…yeah I did say that didn’t I” You begin to pick at the skin on your finger as Billy stands up from his bed.

“And do you mean it?” Billy asks as he stops in front of you. You take a deep breath in before answering.

“I mean it, but I don’t want to make things weird between us” You say quietly

“I think it’s too late for that princess” You both laugh as Billy tucks a strand of hair behind you ear.

“So, what is this between us?” Billy takes you’re hand and leads you to edge of the bed sitting down together.

“I don’t know Billy whatever it is I don’t want to get hurt” You say holding his hand in yours.

“You know I’m not like” He was right you knew he wasn’t what the rumours made him out to be.

“But if you need space, I’m willing to give you it.” You hear Billy’s voice crack a little causing you to look up to find him looking away from you.

“Don’t give me space. That’s the last thing I want from you Billy!” You place your hand on Billy’s chin and tilt his head towards you. You can see the thoughts racing through his head as he begins to process everything. You are unsure on where you go form here but you hope it will involve talking to each other again.

“If you need space I…” Without thinking Billy leans forward and kisses you. You’re caught off guard and so when Billy realises you aren’t kissing back, he begins to pull away. You wrap a hand around the back of his neck and pull him back towards you, lips smashing together. The passion between you two fills the room and the tension lifts as the kiss continues. Billy is the first to pull away to catch him breath. You struggle to open your eyes after the sheer bliss you had experienced from the kiss.

“I don’t want space either…I guess we should go about this the proper way so Y/N will you go on a date with me?” You can’t help but smile at Billy’s attempt at doing things traditionally.

“Sure” Billy pulls you in for a hug as Def Leppard continues to play in the background. And just like that everything is back to being normal.

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[dottie-wan-kenobi]

I loveeee all the songs u chose for Tim!!! Can u maybe do a post or smth explaining why cus it’s so interesting seeing the choice behind these songs

Hi yes I can!! I’m not gonna do all of them here (I can def do the rest if you’d like!!) bc that’s just a Lot all at once lol. Also I might have typos and I apologize but dkjsfhakh I have bandaids on my fingers and it’s hard to type :^/

Disclaimer: some of these songs fit a lot better than other ones

Hard Times by Paramore

I chose this song bc it’s abbout being sad, but the tone is upbeat and happy. Something I’ve noticed abt Tim is that he is (usually) functionally depressed. Like, I read an article about high functioning depression, and it said that a lot of people who have it have a hole in their life – that they can have a job (and Tim does, being either CEO or Red Robin or both), a partner (who I like to think of as Kon), and be part of a family, maintaining this happy/upeat facade, but if you ask them what they do for fun…they usually can’t answer that. And I don’t think Tim can. When he was younger, he could, but what now? 

Fave Lyric: “Walking around / With my little rain cloud / Hanging over my head/ And it ain’t coming down / Where do I go? / Gimme some sort of sign / You hit me with lightning! / Maybe I’ll come alive”

Little Lion Man by Mumford & Sons

I chose this bc I can picture Tim, during a low moment like when Kon or Bruce died, just falling apart and thinking he’s not going to survive it, isn’t strong enough, had something to do with their deaths happening,,, etc. Also there’s a line that references anxiety and like lmao that’s Tim!

Fave Lyric: “Tremble for yourself, my man, / You know that you have seen this all before / Tremble, little lion man, / You’ll never settle any of your scores / Your grace is wasted in your face, / Your boldness stands alone among the wreck / Now learn from your mother or else spend your days biting your own neck”

Heroes (we could be) by Alesso feat. Tove Lo

I chose this bc Tim needed a happy song and also because this has such Young Justice vibes !!!! This is Tim and his friends having fun, roaming around, kicking bad guy ass together!! Actually upon looking at the lyrics again, it’s both YJ and Batman & Robin. It just encompasses Tim’s early days of being a hero I think, the happy carefree nature and the bravery and the hope

Fave Lyric: “Everyday people do everyday things but I / Can’t be one of them / I know you hear me now, we are a different kind / We can do anything”

Burn The House Down by AJR

Tbh I mostly chose this bc its a bop and I think he would sing along to it. BUT I also think this kind of represents his life as a public figure/celeb??? And if I wanna go even further, I think it could represent him when he’s older and more confident, with a better self esteem and maybe a lil less depressed (which I hope is in the cards for his future). Also it talks about lying a lot???? I’m sorry, I don’t have a good analysis for this one lmao

Fave Lyric: “Way up way up we go / Been up and down that road / Way up way up, oh no / We gon’ burn the whole house down / Watch me stand in the line / You’re only serving lies / You’ve got something to hide / We gon’ burn the whole house down”

Don’t Let Me Down by The Chainsmokers feat. Daya

I chose this bc it reminded me of Tim and Dick. I’m of the opinion that Tim getting fired from Robin was the right choice and that Dick wasn’t being cruel or anything like that at all, but I also think that Tim probably saw it that way which is valid. So it’s like, to him, Dick was his big brother who was basically always there for him, and then suddenly… he’s not. And everything else going on in his life starts to suck dramatically, and not having his big brother makes it worse, and he feels betrayed. Meanwhile Dick really is on his side, life is just also terrible for him too so they can’t be as close as they were when Tim was Robin. It can also be about Bruce or Kon tbh – just, wanting one of them to be there and they’re not.

Fave Lyric: “Crashing, hit a wall / Right now I need a miracle / Hurry up now, I need a miracle / Stranded, reaching out / I call your name but you’re not around”

More under the cut!!

Don’t Play by Halsey

This…. I chose this bc I really love the celebrity versions of the Bats, and also how competent Tim can be, and this song brings both of those together. Lol this could also be like…what other people think the Bats/Tim think like?? “Don’t play with me, I’m rich and will fuck you up” kinda thing. This is one of the ones that fits less well than the others but I still get Tim vibes from it so I’m keeping it

Fave Lyric: “Tryna take back what you say to me / I don’t give a damn what you say to me / There ain’t no time for games with me”

Over My Head (Cable Car) by The Fray

I get the feeling that after bad shit happens to Tim, he feels the way this song shows. I haven’t read much YJ so I can’t be sure, but I get the feeling that Tim, no matter what the truth is, feels like he’s alone and there’s no one who will help him. Obviously that can be tied back to his childhood and how he had to take care of himself, and so when there are people who actually do wanna help him he doesn’t see it?? And he’s down on himself so he’s probably thinking “they don’t want to help me, and I can’t blame them”

Fave Lyric: “But that’s how it’s got to be / It’s coming down to nothing more than apathy / I’d rather run the other way than stay and see / The smoke and who’s still standing when it clears” 

Icarus by Bastille

Okay not so much the drinking aspect of this song but EVERYTHING ELSE. I even used one of the lyrics for a fic title. Basically my thoughts here are: 1) everyone looks to the Robins and sees how much they do and it’s just A Lot, 2) Tim knows Jason died and so he probably thinks that’s in his future too even if Dick survived, and 3) Tim is doing a lot and feeling a lot and trying to protect himself and his feelings, which is hard work especially for someone so young

Fave Lyric: “Living beyond your years / Acting out all their fears / You feel it in your chest”

Needed Me by Rihanna

Again,,,, the Competence. I love that shit. I love BAMF!Bats, and tbh I think this could apply to more than just Tim, but I picked it for him bc of the first lyric!! This is also one of those ones that doesn’t fit super well but djkhfjkdshah I think this could really fit an AU Tim where he’s like. More morally gray. Not necessarily a bad guy but just more confident, more arrogant maybe, and more jaded from the hero-ing life

Fave Lyric: “I was good on my own, that’s the way it was, that’s the way it was / You was good on the low for a faded fuck, on some faded love / Shit, what the fuck you complaining for? / Feeling jaded, huh?”

What I’ve Done by Linkin Park

Okay I think this fits a lot of different things: his actions after Kon’s death, his and Damian’s relationship, the lies he’s told (to ppl like Steph, his dad, Tam?), his relationship with Bruce maybe?? I can also see it as him thinking on who he was as a kid – a stalker basically lmao, but ultimately harmless – versus who he is now – a skilled vigilante who’s definitely not harmless. Stark difference there. Also he’s forgiving himself, which is something I think is important for somebody with a low self view

Fave Lyric: “In this farewell / There’s no blood / There’s no alibi / ‘Cause I’ve drawn regret / From the truth / Of a thousand lies”

Tell Me You Love Me by Demi Lovato

I chose this because I think Tim is fucked up by the neglect he suffered in his childhood. I think parts of this song can be directed at his parents, the Batfam, his partner(s). He’s afraid that they’ll leave him and he needs the reassurance. Whether or not he gets it is another matter but kdsjfjkdsah. Really, I think this is all just what he’s thinking, and NOT what he’s saying. He needs the reassurance, yes, but he’s not actually asking for it because he doesn’t know how

Fave Lyric: “Bad at love, no, I’m not good at this”

bellyache by Billie Eilish

When I first added this to his playlist I somehow didn’t realize it was about a murderer but dkjfhkjshjkah whatever I’m keeping it. Let’s just go with this is a song about being fucked up (in whatever sense u wanna take that as) and it’s not happy? But like the first one, it’s upbeat and positive. I think the happy sound hiding the less pretty truth is something that explains Tim a lot. Also its a bop and he might sing along to it

Fave Lyric: “Everything I do / The way I wear my noose / Like a necklace / I wanna make ‘em scared / Like I could be anywhere / Like I’m reckless”

Migraine by Twenty One Pilots

Just Another Song About Tim’s Abysmal Mental Health

Fave Lyric: “Behind my eyelids are islands of violence / My mind ship-wrecked / This is the only land my mind could find / I did not know it was such a violent island / Full of tidal waves, suicidal crazed lions / They’re trying to eat me, blood running down their chin / And I know that I can fight or I can let the lion win / I begin to assemble what weapons I can find / 'Cause sometimes to stay alive you gotta kill your mind”

Fake Love by Drake

I hate Drake but kjdsfkjdsfhajh this goes back to a few things. His celebrity and how he’s seen/treated differently by others because of it, his low self view and the paranoia that people aren’t really there for him no matter what the truth might be, how he sees things others wouldn’t, his relationships with people like Damian and Bruce. I think he’s more forgiving than this song would imply, so maybe this is also for that AU Tim I mentioned above???

Fave Lyric: “I’ve been down so long it look like up to me / They look up to me / I got fake people showin’ fake love to me / Straight up to my face, straight up to my face”

Six Feet Under by Billie Eilish

TIMKON TIMKON TIMKON. Post Kon’s death TimKon and Tim is grieving and trying to forget bc it’s so painful!!!!!!

Fave Lyric: “Our love is six feet under / I can’t help but wonder / If our grave was watered by the rain / Would roses bloom? / Could roses bloom / Again?”

Flaws by Bastille

Idek, I feel like this could be how he could view his relationship with Steph, Cass, Damian, Bart, Dick??? Anyone? Just feeling like he hides his flaws and how he feels, and they don’t really (or at least, he thinks they don’t), and he likes that.

Fave Lyric: “There’s a hole in my soul / I can’t fill it, I can’t fill it / There’s a hole in my soul / Can you fill it? Can you fill it?”

do re mi by blackbear

I’m mostly joking when I say this but this is how he feels about Ra’s al Ghul. It doesn’t fit exactly, bc Tim and Ra’s were NOT together ever at any point, but this song is about being annoyed by someone you have a history with and wishing you’d never known them. Which is how I feel Tim should feel about Ra’s. lol

Fave Lyric: “If I could go back to that day we met / I probably would’ve stayed in bed / You wake up everyday and make me feel like I’m incompetent”

Bored by Billie Eilish

I really think this is Tim talking to his parents. Like, when he’s a kid, or when he’s older and looking back, he’s thinking “I did everything I could, it wasn’t enough, and I know it’s not fair but I can’t do anything about it.” I think this song is supposed to be romantic but I’ve never heard it that way skdjfkjsdhakjh I just always think about Tim, home alone and thinking about his parents.

Fave Lyric: “I’m not afraid anymore / What makes you sure you’re all I need? / Forget about it / When you walk out the door and leave me torn / You’re teaching me to live without it / Bored, I’m so bored, I’m so bored, so bored”

Rose-Colored Boy by Paramore

This one is like… everyone else seems to have an easier time being optimistic and positive than Tim does, in his mind. Idk I don’t have much to say kdsjfhsdjkah

Fave Lyric: “Hearts are breaking, wars are raging on / And I have taken my glasses off / You got me nervous / I’m right at the end of my rope / A half-empty girl / Don’t make me laugh, I’ll choke”

King of the Clouds by Panic! At The Disco

This is mostly because it’s a bop and Tim would like it. But also…this is a song about dimensional travel (apparently) and having ambitions that seem lofty, both of which I think Tim can definitely understand!! 

Fave Lyric: “And when I fall to rise with stardust in my eyes / In the backbone of night, I’m combustible / Dust in the fire when I can’t sleep a wink, I’m too tired / This old world, this old world”