#robin def would have done it himself if he could have

[nortism]

the funniest part of ghosts s5 ep6 is how hard robin and the captain are pushing for julian to apologise to alison like they weren’t both very much on board with killing her

[imjustdreamingig]

Isn't that sweet, I guess so

Part 1, Part 2, Part 4

pairing: Steve Harrington x fem!reader

summary: The secret's out, Steve's proud of himself, and you can't seem to keep your mouth shut

A/N: chat there is no way I put out 2 fic in the past week, this has never happened to me before! yay everyone cheer. again, i have no idea where this story is going how far im gonna go, i def want to try writing other stuff and idk if this is the best place to put and end to whatever this series is but again, we shall see i guess. thank you all so much on the love on my last two works you have no idea what that means to me! please please PLEASE send me asks or comment what you'd like me to write next or if you want a pt4 i need help people

warnings: sfw, swearing, fluff, idiots who like each other

Facing your fears is tough. No matter what it is, no one would actually choose putting themselves through a situation in which they know would cause them extreme distress. For some that may be going on a rollercoaster, interacting with a clown, going into a dark forrest alone, it could even be making a phone call by yourself to schedule a doctor's appointment (which is a valid fear to have, thank you very much.)

And here you were, facing your fears: being sat in your living room with Steve Harrington 3 feet away from you for an extended period of time. It's only been about 15 minutes, where no talking has happened since minute two.

You hope you can get to 30 minutes without fainting.

As you attempted to focus on the book in front of you, Jane Austen's words, who usually kept your focused for hours on end, were not being absorbed by you in the slightest. How could they, when Steve fucking Harrington was in your house.

Steve is the type of guy who Jane Austen would write about, you thought, eyes flickering towards him as he hunched over his book, face crinkled in concentration, trying to understand said author's musings.

The swoop of his hair, the two moles near his neck, his deep, beautiful, chocolate eyes, his gorgeous smile, and my god those arms? Yep, Jane would be absolutely obsessed with him.

"God, why did I agree to do this book?" You are snapped out of your daze at Steve's words. "What do you mean?", you replied. He gave you a look that can only be described as "seriously?"

"I mean, that I can barley understand what any of these characters are saying half the time, and honestly, it's a bit boring. I thought you would have better book recommendations," he said, running a hand through his hair to push it out of his face.

A scoff left your mouth before you could stop it. "Excuse me, are you actually hating on Pride and Prejudice, the best romance story of all time, the romance story, period." You leaned over and snatched his book. "I mean, come on! You are literally only 6 pages in, you can't just judge it that quickly, you haven't even gotten to the good parts yet!", you exclaim.

Steve watched you with an amused look on his face, unbeknownst to you, who kept rambling on, trying to convince Steve this book was worth continuing.

"— and Elizabeth, she is just funny, like actually hilarious. There is one part where she basically tells someone that I'd rather not be wasting my air talking to someone like you, like please, how did she even come up with that? Also, I'm just obsessed with this proper English style of speaking, or writing I guess, because they're basically talking shit but covering it up with fancy words! And when—"

"You talk a lot, don't you?"

You look up from the book and towards Steve, eyes widening slightly, realizing you had indeed been talking too much.

"One of my greatest faults, some may say, and by faults I mean my mom, but she only tells me this when we're arguing, so..." You glance away from Steve's face for a little reprieve. God, he's so hot.

"Well, like a good partner," you continue. "I'm trying to help you get some of this project done, and maybe if Robin were here, she could've helped," you defended yourself, crossing your arms, "which I'm still confused about, by the way. You said something about her telling you earlier how I invited you guys and some other people to work on the project together, but then she doesn't show?"

Steve leans back in his chair, also crossing his arms. You glance down for a quick second and send a quick thank you to anyone who's that Steve is wearing a tight shirt that beautifully enunciates his biceps. Or maybe you should be mad at them, you don't know yet.

"Maybe it's the fact that she noticed, like I did, that it's been a month since this project was assigned and we haven't even started," Steve countered, "which is unlike you, you usually want to get stuff done ASAP."

You look at him in confusion. "How the fuck do you know that?"

Steve smirks, "I also happen to know that you don't have a sister, thanks to that lovely dinner with your mom." You shake your head in disbelief, mentally making a note to yell at your mom later.

"Isn't that what you said one of the many times I asked you to work on the project?" Steve looked so amused with himself, all cocky and proud that he had uncovered your lie. Your brain tried desperately to come up with a realistic enough explanation, but nothing was coming up.

You throw your hands up in defeat. "Ok, fine! I lied! Is it just so hard for you to believe that maybe, just maybe, not everyone in that high school wants to spend time with you outside of it?" Oh my God, why the fuck would you say that, you screamed internally.

Steve stared at you for a second before letting out a chuckle. " You know, I did think of that actually, but only for a bit." He reaches out for the book and grabs it from your grasp, flipping to a random page.

"You can only run away from a guy so many times before he catches a hint," he peers over at you, " and I mean literally, you're a fast runner, did you ever do track?"

"Yeah, in middle school," you answer quickly. Steve lets out a hum of agreement before placing his attention back on the book. You open your mouth, about to quip about being careful to not rip the pages when he speaks again. "I know I'm dumb, but I'm not an idiot, ya know?"

Your gaze snaps to his face. "Steve, I don't think you're dumb." He doesn't look too convinced. "Eh, I think you do. But you're interesting, you took me a lot longer to figure out than the others since girls just typically throw themselves at me."

You make a face of disgust, "Ok, you sound like a total prick, you know."

"Yep, heard it after I said it, but that's not the point here." He point his finger at you, "You have a crush on me."

You splutter out a sound of indignation. "Hello, what?" In your head, fire alarms are sounding. It's a code red, all hell is breaking loose. "Pfft, no I absolutely do not."

Steve raises his eyebrows. "Then how else do you explain the running away when you see me anywhere at school? You always have an insane excuse why we're not able to meet up to start the project, which some are hilarious," he admits, "but you've got me complaining about not doing homework, look what you've done to me!"

At this point you've gone silent, mouth agape with an excuse stuck in your throat refusing to come out. Steve's expression has changed, his eyes bore into yours with earnest, almost as if he's anticipating a certain answer, hoping for it. "So?"

You muster all the courage you have left and just when you're about to respond, Steve interrupts you again for like, the 15th time.

"Anyways, I've to get going, have some things to do and whatever." He gets up, shrugs on his jacket and then places his books in his backpack. You get up too, having absolutely no clue how to tell him not to go, that you want him to stay. "Steve, what do you mean?"

He glances over at you, "Nothing, I just have to go. I'm a busy guy." He starts making his way to your front door, leaving you behind in the kitchen, trying to understand what the fuck just happened. First, he accuses you of having a crush on him, which you do, and then he just thinks he can leave?

Oh, absolutely not.

With a new wave of determination, you catch up to Steve just as he's finishing putting on his shoes. "Say thanks to your mom for me for dinner, it was great," he says as he grabs the door handle. You don't let him continue with whatever stupid thing he was going to say next.

"Listen Harrington, I don't know what the fuck just happened back there, but the fact you think can just, leave after dropping a bomb like that is ridiculous," you say, glaring at him in annoyance, and Steve's just staring back at you with that stupid, stupid, smirk that has not left his face since the moment he stepped foot in here.

"So what if I did like you, huh? What if I did have a crush on you? Because I do, but that, quite frankly, is none of your business, none of your concern, actually, so... yeah." Steve is looking at you and you're looking at him, a little out of breath after your declaration. You don't have the energy right now to fully process what you just said.

All of a sudden, Steve seems to break character, the smugness gone, replaced with subtle endearment. He leans down and presses a swift kiss on your cheek before whispering, "Well, it's a good thing I like you too." He straightness back up and says, "I told you I knew you were different, you're a mystery. You're lucky running away seemed to work on me, by the way. I don't think it would for everyone else," he says while you stare at him in shock. You've been rendered silent once again, with nothing but the thought that Steve likes you back, repeating over and over again.

You clear your throat before speaking, "Well! Um, yay?" You truly have no idea what to do right now. Steve chuckles at your reaction, like he can't believe his words have caused you of all people, who continuously talk and talk and talk, to not have anything profound to say for once. He's kind of into it.

Steve grabs your hand and encases it with the other. "Come over to my house tomorrow after school, I'll drive you. We can work on the project and you know, talk, if you want." You nod fervently, "Yeah, yeah ok."

He smiles and drops your hand. "I really do have to go though, I wasn't making that up," he remarks as he opens the front door. "Oh, sure, that's fine," you reply. You hold open the door for him and watch as he descends the steps and makes his way towards his car. You watch him, holding onto the door for dear life.

As Steve gets into the car, he looks over at you and waves, "I'll see you tomorrow!" You wave back and yell back, "Yeah, tomorrow!" You don't go back inside until the car is out of sight. As you shut the door, you press your back against it, trying to wrap your head around what exactly happened in the last few hours.

Holy shit, you though, Steve Harrington likes me. Steve fucking Harrington. You let out an involuntarily squeal of excitement and immediately regret doing it as your mother calls down from upstairs. "Mija, are you ok? What happened?" Hearing her voice reminds you of her involvement over the events that transpired tonight.

Putting your happiness on hold for a moment, you start to storm up the stairs. "Mom!", you yelled, "How could you embarrass me like that, asking him to stay over for dinner, you know how I feel about him, I just about fainted 5 times throughout the night, how does that make you feel!? You almost killed me an—"

You would thank your mom later, because ultimately she helped, but for now, you'll stick to this.

[rock-in-robins]

so like reverse robins, if done right, i love em. anything reverse robins i ever write will never have Steph become Babs. it doesn't make sense to her character for her to become oracle, would she be great at it, absolutely, but it doesn't make sense.

there's always debate on whether it should be Steph or Tim to die and more or less become Jason. my answer is that Tim get's joker jr'd and kills himself (+ the joker if your so inclined (but joker would have to be revived somehow for plot reasons) (you can make it Bruce if you want more angst)) then Steph becomes robin because Tim always talked about how gotham needed a robin and she wanted to honor him in a way only she could. then the thing with black mask happens and she still fakes her death travels, heals, grieves, and comes back when she heard bruce picked up a new kid. (Jason wasn't robin yet, just living in the manor but Steph new it was only a matter of time)

so she comes back to gotham and decides she's gonna take care of crime alley her way, and revamps her old spoiler costume. (she may not have grown up there but she was a few streets away and she knew what a place like that did to kids) (she also has no ties to Bruce anymore so her no killing thing gets a whole lot more lax)(she kills her father - that's how bruce and the others found out shes back in town). and openly feuds with black mask over territory and brutally maims him but like just a bit.

Then Jason becomes robin and six months later Tim is back. he's different and definitely a bit more unhinged, but efficient as ever. he quickly takes over the drug trade and helps Steph get rid of the worst of the worst. But doesn't do the whole try to make Bruce kill the joker thing, instead he makes Bruce watch as Tim does and warns him that if he tries to revive the joker again (damian aka nightwing def killed the joker & Bruce brought him back) that they Will Have Problems. Tho he is going as Joker Jr. as a fuck you and a threat to pretty much everyone, after all they all knew what happened to the 2nd robin.

In summary Tim & Steph split up the Red Hood traits

Duffle bag of heads - tim, he's dramatic

Died (like burried in a grave and crawled out died) - tim

Guns - Steph

The joker - tim (but steph will shoot the fucker on sight so help her god)

Black mask war - steph (obvi)

Crime alley - steph mainly (but tim lurks around and every crime alley kid & sex worker knows that if they ever need something JJ will take care of it no questions asked)

Drug trade - both, they make dates night out of it (it does not matter they aren't together anymore)

Scaring/pissing B off - both, they make it a game

Murder - both as a treat

[mamawasatesttube]

With timkon who do you think fell first? And who fell harder?

GOD ive been turning this over in my head all day and it's so hard to answer in those terms i feel like!!! theyre SUCH a friends to lovers in my mind that they just melt into each other so hard. augh lets see though okay okay lemme try

i DO think they both had crushes on each other in their yj98 days. (i mean... "i know i'm gonna die i just wish i could talk to kon one last time" ???? "hey robin anyone tell you your voice drops like an octave when you get all commander-like" I KNOW WHAT YALL ARE.) but i DON'T think either of them realized it. they were both just kids still way too deep in the closet for that.

tim DEFINITELY started going off the deep end wrt kon's death. i think he was still figuring out the whole "bisexuality" thing while getting whammied left and right by shock/trauma/grief all steamrolling him flat in the world's worst conga line, so i don't think he fully registered that the feelings he was having were explicitly romantic, but he was definitely feeling ways. i mean, like. he absolutely kissed cassie as a substitute for kissing kon. when he actually put it together that thats what he was doing, though... i don't think it all really came together for him until after he was done brucequesting and actually got to breathe and let himself process. he was already head over heels at this point. he just didn't know.

for kon, i think it's this really slow, gradual thing, where feelings of friendship melted into a very deep and intimate bond without words somewhere between "best friends" and "romantic partners", again without him really having the self-awareness to put that sort of label on it. post-resurrection kon is just so introspective, i think it just sorta comes to him one day that, like, oh. he'd like to be close to tim forever. he knows he's into guys at this point but bc of his sexual trauma + dating history i do think it takes him a HOT second to clock that this feeling of intimacy and comfort is, in fact, romantic attraction.

so "who fell first" and "who fell harder" is just so confounded by both of them not even fucking realizing they fell for each other for so long kjsdfjksd like arguably they both fell pretty early, and tim fell REALLY hard while kon was dead, but i also don't think they REGISTERED that at all!!! theyre a lil stupid!!!

that said. when they have both figured out they're into each other, kon is def the one who's pretty calm about it like oh :) i love tim and i just want to be near him all the time. whereas tim is out there like oh my god he's holding my shoulder. he does that all the time i will not overthink this but oh my god what if he would hold me more WAIT IM NOT GOING TO OVERTHINK THIS and im NOT going to daydream about OHHHHH MY GOD he put his jacket on me oh fuck oh fuck im going to be normal im NORMAL is that his favorite cologne i can still smell on the collar. oh GOD did he just notice me sniffing the collar of his jacket like a creep ah fuck okay im a creep im a weirdo what the hell am i doing here WHY is this not actually distracting me from the way i can definitely still smell his cologne shit shit fuck-----

(and then they kiss. eventually. <3)

[snowlessknitter]

The Masked Singer: S13 E5 (Group B: “Ghostbusters Night”)

The Masked Singer goes into Ghostbusters mode tonight. One celebrity will be eliminated. As always, I post before seeing any unmaskings, so these guesses aren’t spoilers. I am watching on a delay because I had a brief nap while this was recording on the TiVo.

Pearl 🦪: We see a “Bar” sign flashing behind her. Says she came from a “tiny little tide pool”, so I’m assuming she’s from a very small town. Says she left home before she even started high school. We see a “Wanted” poster with her picture on it. We see pictures of some deer in the background of another shot, and she’s looking at a dry erase board with a football play chart on it. We also see a neon crescent moon sign. Some of the online commenters are suggesting Gretchen Wilson, but I think some of these clues could still suggest Lita Ford. (Primarily the leaving home before high school and the “Wanted” sign; The Runaways started up when she was a teenager, and the “Wanted” sign could be looking for a fugitive or “Runaway” from the law.) But I think Lita grew up in Southern California. I don’t know where Gretchen Wilson grew up. The bonus clue: “Best Seller”. Says she knows how to put pen to paper. Either as a writer or as a songwriter. I’m sticking with Lita Ford for now.

Griffin 🦁 🦅: We see a “Maskbill”, which would be a spoof on Playbill, a Broadway publication. And we see Lamp 💡(who was revealed to be Melissa Joan Hart in a past season). He says he was called a geek, nerd, and loser. We see him recording a video on a camcorder. So, who has Melissa Joan Hart worked with in the past? Could be the guy who played Harvey on Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but he’s kept kind of a low profile since the show ended. Could be Adrian Grenier, who co-starred with her in Drive Me Crazy. The bonus clue: actress McKenna Grace has played his daughter onscreen, and he says one of his kids likes her. So, who’s played her dad onscreen? Chris Evans (Gifted), Rob Lowe (The Bad Seed), Timothy Hutton and Henry Thomas (The Haunting of Hill House, as older and younger versions of the same character), Patrick Wilson (Annabelle Comes Home), and I’m sure a bunch of others. Chris Evans can be ruled out because although he’s married, he doesn’t have any children that we know of. The most likely candidate of these actors would be Patrick Wilson, who has worked on Broadway and has children. I don’t know if he’s done any projects together with Melissa Joan Hart, though.

Space Ranger 👽 🤠: Says one of his odd jobs was schlepping (moving) furniture around New York in the middle of a hot summer. We see a crown. Says he found his calling with a beastly band of boys who ended up “hooking up our careers into hyperdrive”. Makes me think he worked with The Beastie Boys (not as a member) and is known for hip-hop music. So, we can rule out him being an athlete. He opens up a fridge to show himself standing on top of the world. If he’s known for hip-hop/rap music, having him sing instead of rap is a great way to disguise his voice. So, who has worked with the Beastie Boys? Well, I saw some commenters suggesting Flavor Flav from Public Enemy (which would line up with the clock clues, as the wearing of a giant clock is his trademark, and apparently he’s a Swiftie). Public Enemy and the Beastie Boys have both been on the Def Jam Records roster. The bonus clue: a globe, says he’s “toured the world”. If this is indeed Flavor Flav, Robin calling him “electrifying” would make sense, because Flavor Flav is the best hype man in the history of hip-hop, it’s his job to hype up the audience and electrify them. I think Jenny and Rita are on to him.

Boogie Woogie 🪩 🕺: Looking at a star through a telescope. Says his work has saved lives. We see him with some tap shoes. Has he perhaps done Dancing with the Stars? The internet consensus seems to be Andy Grammer, but both him and Gavin DeGraw have done Dancing with the Stars. I think I’d originally guessed Andy Grammer to be Rhino 🦏 all the way back in season 3 (if I remember correctly)! (He turned out to be Barry Zito.) The bonus clue: “Doctorate of Medical Science”. Has his music been featured on a show like Grey’s Anatomy? Jason Mraz has also done Dancing with the Stars. I don’t think this has narrowed the choices down. So, I’ll go with all three: either Gavin DeGraw, Andy Grammer, or Jason Mraz. But what about the former lead singer of The Fray, Isaac Slade? I think The Fray’s song “How to Save a Life” became famous in part due to Grey’s Anatomy.

[lazaruspiss]

so in Jaydick Jason mostly tops, but sometimes he’s in the mood to get fucked too. Do they invite someone over to get the job done or does Dick do it himself?

i think Dick /can/ top, but it really depends on his headspace!! i think ive sort of talked about it, but he has some hints a sadism in him <3 he could enjoy being dominant or even sadistic, it's really just a matter of how much of a guilt ridden hangover it would leave him with... he could def do a service top thing more easily though, bc it plays into his desire to please and to serve really well!

as for bringing in guests, i think that would be even more complicated than getting Dick to top. they have trust issues!! Dick would have to hold Jason's hand or else he'd just be pacing around worrying.

a poly ship could make this a non issue tho lol. a part of why i like poly robins is bc it feels like it creates a close knit support system, so there's always someone to go to for different things!

[deathbxnny]

That.Was.Amazing!!!!!

Im so happy you did my request Bxnny! You did a great job on it and you got everything what i wanted for it 🥹

Thank you so much for the post!

Also you mentioned about “thoughts on Natlan final archon quest” and tbh.. i really like it. So in the livestream about Natlan’s last archon quest, it was advised to do all of the Natlan story quests/tribe chronicles for the best experience and i did just that. And it made the archon quest SO GOOD! (and teary eyed) But then i learned that the game takes account on whether or not you played a certain quest as i watched a friend of mine play the game and there was a character i was unfamiliar with appeared when that never happened to me (character was from a story quest in Och-Natlan which i have not done).

The boss fight was also SO GOOD! Like it made me feel like an invincible hero! And then the revelations Capitano made? Intrigueing and cool andddd now he’s dead :|

Despite my love for Natlan’s last archon quest, i do have some pet peeves:

1. The missing English VA. I know there’s a strike but it did lessens the emotional impact of the story. I am planning to wait for the missing english VA to do their lines for this quest and watch someone’s playthrough to see how it would be like if it was fully voiced tho.

2. How they revealed Capitano’s backstory. Frankly, i dont like how Capitano’s part and story was 90% dialogue. Like wdym we learn his true name from Ororon and not the man himself or how it was revealed in a dialogue. Show and tell exist Hoyo! I would’ve liked it more if we get to see Capitano way before he went to confront and stop Ronova’s plan. Like we could learn more of him by joining Ororon in his research about the Captain in those couple of days before the big fight. Capitano already knows the traveler is the abyss sibling’s twin and he sees the traveler to be royalty from that extent, so he would probably be more willing to talk to them about his past. (This pet peeve is why im having my Natlan OC, Runa help explore Capitano’s backstory. She researches about anything Khaenri’ah related so she would def be of help >:3)

So yeah those are my thoughts on Natlan’s final Archon Quest. I put it in second in my “Top 3 favorite Archon quest” (first is Fontaine and third is Sumeru). On unrelated news to genshin, i tried pulling for Robin on her rerun banner and just like the first.. i lost my chance to her bc of Gepard 🥲. PLEASE COME HOME ROBIN, I HAVE YOUR BROTH-

I hope you’re doing well by the time you read this ask. Please focus on taking care of yourself first and foremost. I dont mind waiting or anything, all i hope is that you’re doing alright.

Hope you have a good day/night and again, take care of yourself Bxnny!

- Flower Anon 🌸

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Sorry that it took so long for me to respond to this, Flower Anon! I've been struggling a lot more lately, so my energy is pretty low for anything... but anyway, I definitely agree with your pet peeves, especially about the missing VAs. It's definitely not their fault, obviously, but man, does the lack of voicing really suck and ruin the stories impact.

Also I'm sorry that you lost Robin to Gepard! Although this reminds me that I haven't opened hsr in nearly 2 months now oops... I hope you get her soon, though.

Anyhow, thank you for your ask, Flower Anon, and I hope that you're doing okay yourself!

Have a good day/night!<33

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[jaybirdwest]

seeing as Dick had to find out on his own, i don’t think Bruce told like. anyone

i would bet that the majority of the people who know the second Robin died found out through Dick (the Titans, mainly).

which also reminds me of something i’ve thought about a LOT: Wally learning what happened to Jason.

Wally was the Flash, the so-called Fastest Man Alive, when Jason, his best friend’s little brother, died. i bet he beat himself up for not having Dick’s (and Jason’s by extension) back while Dick was offworld with the Titans.

and it has to be especially shitty because Wally couldn’t have possibly done anything to help, even if he’d known, because he was slower than he’d been since he was like eleven and didn’t have superpowers. Flash 1987 #22 released the same month as the end of Death in the Family, and that was when he topped out at the speed of sound (hell, the next issue even involves him having actually lost his speed altogether). he probably had to deal with the fact that there was absolutely nothing he could have done to spare his best friend from that pain. for someone who used to be the Fastest Kid Alive (fast enough to beat Barry in a race, even) and able to run faster than light, that would be painful

and you know how some characters go to Flashes like “You can time travel! Go back and undo what happened!” and Flashes have to explain that no, they can’t do that, it’d fuck everything up? well, Wally wasn’t even fast enough to do that if he wanted to. he could barely run for extended periods of time, needed constant food (like, insane amounts that he couldn’t even afford for a while because his metabolism was fucked up. he needed more food than Barry ever did despite being FAR slower at the time.), and his powers were generally… not good. an arc later he gained some speed, but it’d be dozens of issues later, after the Return of Barry Allen arc, where he finally reaches his original speed (and a bit after that when he becomes the fastest speedster ever).

when he learned Jason Todd died (probably from Dick, maybe even the news since he def knew their identities), he’d be immediately confronted with the fact that BARRY could have saved Jason. because this was when he was dealing with a massive inferiority complex around his uncle and the Flash legacy.

Wally could do literally nothing to save his best friend’s little brother and would absolutely beat himself up for that, at a time where he’s already lower than probably ever.

I recently came across these panels of Green Arrow 2001 where Oliver is in the afterlife, and I have some thoughts below.

It’s the line “Spooky didn’t even mention it to me” that really takes me out because how many people did Bruce actually tell about Jason’s death when he was grieving? Obviously Clark knew, he was there in Death of the Family’s aftermath to prevent Bruce from killing the Joker, but if Green Arrow didn’t know, that’s like… a pretty core member of the Justice League.

Batman just went about his JL missions while grieving and internally suffering and at least Green Arrow didn’t notice, but also I don’t know who would have said anything if they did notice. It’s a somewhat known fact in-universe now I think, but I don’t know, it just makes me sad that he didn’t say anything about it when it happened.

[as-i-watch]

Would you dare to rank the parental figures?

Bellemere, Dadan, Zeff, Hiruluk and Kureha, Kokoro and Tom.

Not sure if Saul enters the category; maybe Clover?

Include Shimotsuki just to put him at the bottom.

Anon sent me other ask to add Genzo to the list and it so shall be

Im gonna rank them from worst to best parent figure imo, considering thei actions, the circunstances and their kids

[Also my sources tell me i havent gotten to Shimotsuki yet so i can rank him]

Just to be clear there's no bad parent figure here they are all good and i appreciate them all

Kokoro - she is amazing, but Chimney was exposed to some dangerous situations. Tho that kid is insane so i get it. And i dont have that much of a register of her dealing with Franky and Iceburg, ofc she loves them but i leave it at that.

Clover - he looked after Robin and he def cared for her, tho i think any decent adult could've done the same

Genzo - i think that for a long time Nami never knew how much he cared for her really, and i think any parent-child relationship has to be two ways. But he does care a lot.

Saul - he tought Robin to cope and to seek hope. Thats priceless. He was there for a short time but he did sacrifice himself for her so...

Hiruluk / Kureha - i cannot separate these two. Hiruluk tought Chopper love and kidness and gave him hope and dream. And Kureha took care of him and always tries to do best for him, tho in her own way which can be a bit ...intense. But they both love Chopper so much in and have such radically different ways of showing it

Dadan - not placing her first it hard for me considering she had to deal with those three gremlins and all the trouble they got into. She's not first bc Garp forced her to take care of the kids and was not like 'ok im a parent now' unlike all the ones that comes next

Bellemere / Tom / Cora-san (yes im adding him bc he's my blorbo) - they all saw their kids and went into full parent mode, they all care for them and did right by them and ultimately sacrificed themself so their kids could live

Zeff - he was built to be Sanji's dad. And to be tasked to be Sanji's dad, jesus the boy is troubled. And his parenting techniques might not be right for someone else but just right for Sanji. But any parent that displays his kid's wanted poster and rebuilts his ship to look like him deserves first place.

[eddiemunson-thehero]

Hii! Could I request reader asking Jonathan Byers and or Eddie Munson for their jacket when reader is cold headcanons

They are friends but Jonathan/Eddie have a crush on reader :)))

(You don't have to do both if you do not want to but please feel free to do both if you do want to :)

Ahhh tysm for the request, this is so cute i can’t resist i have to do both boys.

Warning: ST4 spoilers 

Eddie

The way I imagine this is you and Eddie would be newer friends, after all the chaos that has been occurring with Vecna, however, you’ve always caught Eddie’s eye within the four walls of Hawkins High

Maybe a night out at the movies with Nancy, Steve, Robin, Eddie, and you, maybe even a horror movie with a bunch of jumpscares

You would be sitting next to Eddie and he would notice you hiding behind your hands, not being able to handle the movie

He would also notice that you were shaking, either from fear or the chilly temperature in the theatre

In an attempt to be a knight in shining armor for you, he would offer you his leather jacket, his prized possession, to provide you with some warmth and comfort

Actually, it probably wouldn't even be an offer, he would probably shove the jacket at you, not giving you time to argue with him

He’d probably mumble something to you along the lines of “don't even think about saying no just take it please” 

How could you say no to him i mean my god

Slipping your arms into that jacket, Jesus christ it would be so big and smell just like him, warm maybe like vanilla, like the woods, and of course weed

SNUGGLING INTO THE JACKET FOR WARMTH BUT ALSO USING THE LONG SLEEVES TO HIDE YOUR FACE FROM THE MOVIE

Jesus christ I want to be friends with Eddie so much

Jonathan

Okay since season 4 has done nothing but tease the demise of nancy and Jonathan :( I'm gonna write this as if they broke up

You and Jonathan met when he moved out to California with his family, quicking bonding over both of your new-found love for weed

Becoming fast friends with the quirky man himself, you were often invited over to the Byers residence

Joyce would absolutely love you, and El would appreciate having another female figure to look up to and learn from

So one night in the fall after dinner at the Byers you and Jonathan would excuse yourselves to go on a walk 

Def so yall could smoke

Finding a nice secluded park you guys would share a joint, just enjoying each other's company

As the sun sets the wind would be picking up a bit, and the chill of the air would hit your bones immediately

Being high didn't help either

Jonathan being the attentive guy he is would notice your right away and offer you his jacket, already shrugging it off of his shoulders and wrapping it around you 

“Here please, take my jacket it's getting cold, don't want you getting sick, smoking with Argyle isn’t as fun as it is with you”

He’d watch you curl yourself into his jacket and his heart would melt

He’d also def be pissed that he didn’t have his camera on him to take a picture but would make a mental note for next time

I feel like the jacket would smell warm, again maybe like vanilla and cedarwood, as well as like laundry detergent

God what I would do to ugh I love him so much 

Tysm for this request!!! feel free to send in some more :)))))

[ghosttownwherenoonegoes]

something won't leave me alone for days now and i need to ask, i hope i'm npt bothering 🙈🙈🙈🙈 i saw the discussion abt eddie being kinder to the cheerleaders than the girl he startled (over on @munson-maidens blog but you rebloged it too) and keep wondering. i think he was really kinder to the cheers than the other girl cause he found the cheers pretty but he wasn't mean or rude to the other girl? like yeah he was kinder to the cheers but he wasn't unkind to the other girl he was still a gentleman like munson-maiden says with not getting to close and hands behind his back and smiling and he def would've let her pass too and he didn't jump at her cause he found her unattractive but cause she was there and he wasn't unkind or a prick to her. i just see two sides with the eddie is only nice to pretty cheers and that makes him a prick stance or people who say he wasn't nicer to the cheerleaders. but can he be a bit nicer to girls he finds pretty and still be a true gentlemen? he wouldn't treat anyone with less kindness cause of their looks so, honest: would it make him a prick if it is like i said that he was nicer to the cheers cause he found them prettier?

Hey anon!

You’re never a bother! I’m happy to hear from you and I adore answering asks (though I haven’t done so for a while and I need to be better about my time management so I don’t keep people waiting for too long💀).

I actually reached out to @munsons-maiden about this because she hadn’t said anything about this overall topic which I didn’t agree with (I have yet to disagree with Kiki on anything Eddie Munson related, she GETS him so well it hurts🤧🤧🤧), and I thought she could sum all of this up better than I can!

So here’s what Kiki said:

There are two types of men: those who respect women, ALL women regardless of their appearance, and those who don't respect women (the latter treats pretty women kinder but that's never genuine, that's because they want something from them and they'll stop being kind if they got or don't get what they want).

The question isn't whether he's especially kind to girls he finds pretty, but whether he'd treat any girl he doesn't deem pretty with LESS kindness, and the answer is no he wouldn't, because he genuinely respects women. Imagine the girls would have been "not pretty", and imagine him just not letting them pass. Feels so much ooc that I can't even imagine it. He would have let any girl pass, the fact that it were cheerleaders just shows that he's a gentleman to women even if they're rude to HIM. He wouldn't have jump-scared the cheerleaders because he thinks Chrissy (and by extension all cheerleaders, because pretty and popular) were mean and scary, but that doesn't have anything to do with being a gentleman or not. The jump-scaring itself isn't unkind or rude or pokes fun of that girl's appearance, if anything, Eddie is endorsing the freak label and playing himself a fool.

Plus, he treats Robin gentlemanly despite Robin not being the classical cheerleader beauty type as well, and his "Chrissy, this is for you" line was, according to Joe himself, not meant in a romantic way despite his crush, but to avenge her as a person. No man who lacks genuine respect for women would do that because Chrissy is dead, and he doesn't gain anything by dedicating the song to her.

In the end, everything can be interpreted ambiguously, and people tend to see what they want to see. How a scene is intended to be interpreted is determined by the rest of what we know about a character and the situation, and we get to know Eddie well enough to exclude the option that he's not a genuine gentleman.

I was very kindly given permission to copy and paste this into this answer, and I hope it gives you more food for thought!💖

[narrators-journal]

i saw u said u liked the kinktober request u were given for loki x akechi, do u think u could do something that was like, nsfw robin hood x akechi x loki? or maybe nsfw ren x loki? there isnt enough persona fucking love :( i know u said u werent taking prompt rqs anymore but if u could keep the size difference aspect in that would b great 💞

Oh, Kinktober being over doesn't mean you can't ask for kinky asks lol. It just means you aren't limited to a specific list of prompts.

Also, I went with Ren/Akira x Loki here just for some fun. Hope ya don't mind <3

CW: Size difference, monsterfucking, a fair amount of cum, more than usual. Also I don't think it's ENTIRELY dubcon, but it def falls near that territory a lil, so be warned.

Loki was massive for a persona. At least double Akechi's height, with a set of crimson fangs revealed in a wolfish grin and a black-and-white body pattern that was dizzying to look at. Plus, to add to his already intimidating height, the creature had a pair of striped horns jutting out of his head. He was nightmarish to look at.

But, at the moment, Akira was more concerned about the inch-long claws Loki was ghosting over his body. Akira guessed to find his weakest spot since the persona didn't seem to have eyes. All while pinning his back to the grimy, concrete floor of mementos.       "Are you going to kill me?" Akira muttered to the creature while keeping an eye on the massive hand that explored him and shredded his clothes with ease.

This wasn't Akira's first fight with Akechi's odder monster. They'd already fought once on Shido's ship. This time, though, was the first time Loki showed an odd curiosity for him. An interest that didn't seem strictly malicious, to boot.

In their first meeting, Loki had done everything in his power to kill the dark-haired phantom thief. This time, though. Despite chasing Akira through the mildew-scented halls of Mementos like a wolf after a lamb. The towering persona now handled him with uncharacteristic gentleness. Only using enough force to keep Akira trapped under one of his taloned hands on the cold concrete floor. And only pressing his claws into him enough to shred his clothes as well as leave light scratches along his skin. He wasn't aiming to gut him or peel his skin from his bones.         "Loki?" He asked again, eyeing his hand as it drifted lower over his pants. Yet, the only answer he got was a low chuckle.

Instead of getting an explanation, Akira was left to figure it out for himself. Which, wasn't hard to do after Loki pulled his shredded pants off to leave him in only his thin boxers.         "L-Loki?! What the fuck are you doing?" Akira asked. Trying to push himself into a sitting position despite the hand on his chest. But, the persona only applied a little bit more pressure to keep him where he was. At his mercy. With no hope to hide or escape.

That thought shouldn't be as hot as it is...

Despite that logical thought. Akira's member couldn't help but twitch in some twisted hope. A hope that was fed when Loki slid a pad of his finger from his knee, along his inner thigh, to his groin. Where the persona ground his palm into him and chuckled at the way Akira humped into his hand a bit. Oh god, I'm acting like a whore. The thief thought as his cheeks flared a dark red. Yet, it didn't stop him from humming and moaning under Loki's careful touch.

When the persona finally got his boxers off, his member was throbbing and his skin zipped with need. Which earned another low chuckle from Loki before the creature lowered his head. opening his fang-filled jaws to let his long, black tongue slither out and wrap around Akira's eager member.

In response to the sudden, slick warmth coiling around to stroke his dick, the thief once again began to squirm against the hand that still pinned him. Biting back more moans and whines under the assault of mind-numbing lust. All while the creature stroked him. Thoroughly coating his member in saliva before the prehensile appendage unwound to slide lower.           "H-hey!" Akira yelped. Instinctively trying to worm away from the tongue pressing into the thief's hole. Not stopping until he had completely stretched the thief and left no inch of his walls untouched.

Especially not his prostate. Once Loki had located the specific spot that made Akira squeeze down on the thick muscle buried in him, the uncanny persona wasted no time in abusing it. Trying to force out as many needy or surprised moans as possible. Resulting in Akira almost painting himself with warm, sticky cum.

But, before he got that carried away in the heated euphoria the persona was maybe wickedly sending through him, Loki retracted his tongue. Leaving the dark-haired phantom thief dizzy with a restless need crawling over him.

God...what is wrong with me? Why am I so into this? Akira asked himself while he lay on the cold concrete. Shivering and panting while he tried to wait out the desire swirling around in his body like a hurricane. At the same time, Loki rolled the dazed phantom thief into his palm. That way he could pick him up and press Akira's back to his chest.

The new position gave Akira a good look at the thing that the persona seemed to have the ability to manifest at will. It was easily a foot long, and thick on top of that.         "Hey, h-hold on." The red-faced thief panted, "That...that thing's not going to fit inside me if that's your plan." His complaint went unheeded. All the persona did was situate his hand so he could hold Akira without cutting him too bad. Using his free hand to hold the thief's leg so he couldn't squirm while straddling his warm cock.

The tall creature purred at the noticeable difference in size between them. Though he could've also been pleased with the sight of his precum dripping down onto the leg he left to dangle. And, while shameful to admit, Akira couldn't stop himself from shuddering and throbbing in the same anticipation.

Akira hadn't taken himself as much of a monster fucker. No other persona had caused such a strong heat to bubble up in his loins. Yet, he couldn't seem to help himself reaching out and running his hands up Loki's impressive length. Spreading the drops of thick precum that leaked from the tip of the throbbing member. Not that the fluid would be a proper lubricant, but it would have to do. Since the dark-haired eighteen-year-old didn't think Loki could manifest lube.

Plus, Loki seemed to enjoy Akira's hands on him. judging from the odd noises Akira could feel rumbling against his back and the extra precum that trickled out of his cock. Though, whatever pleasure the thief's actions gave off didn't seem to be enough. because after only a few moments Loki was lifting him up again. Keeping Akira's back to his chest while he slid him up until he was above the tip of the creature's cock.           "Oh god, please don't expect me to take all of that..." Akira muttered, trying to crane his neck to see the demonic creature's face as he spoke. but his attempt got cut short when Loki pushed him down onto his member. Purring again at the startled yelp the move got.

The feeling was maddening. Akira could feel himself stretching. No part of his hole left untouched until his body could take no more. Once that point had been reached, and Akira's conflicted whines of pained pleasure had subsided to whimpers, Loki lifted him up again to push him back down. Going slow, and squeezing the thief's shaking thigh as he used him like a fleshlight.

Thankfully, the creature seemed aware of the fact that Akira couldn't take him to the base. So he didn't force him to take his entire length. But, when the ebony-haired thief's noises became more obvious moans, their size difference didn't seem to cross the creature's mind. He just let his thigh go in favor of planting that hand on the concrete.           "Ngh- No, h-hold on..." Akira breathed, having enough experience with Akechi to guess the creature's plan. Yet, like his complaint about the size of his cock, Loki ignored him in favor of finding a rougher pace. Meanwhile, all Akira could do was yelp and claw into the persona's hand, muttering curses as his body jolted under the quicker pace. Drowned in body-shaking pleasure laced with pain.

Getting stuffed to the top with each thrust stung like a bitch and surely bruised the dark-haired phantom thief inside and out. Yet, in that same breath. Loki's thrusts also washed Akira in pleasure so hot that his thoughts turned to smoke. Leaving the smaller male at the mercy of the creature that was intent on breaking him. Giving pleased hums and purrs each time Akira's body jolted in his hand from the rough, quick force of his thrusts, or the thief squeezed around his cock.

Akira, meanwhile, only whimpered and moaned. Devolving into a mess under the assault of pleasure that shot through him like lightning. Driving him closer and closer to release until he was finally sent over the edge in a sudden blinding flash of euphoria.

Loki, though, kept humping into him. Shamelessly using the phantom thief as a toy. Until the shock of burning heat pouring into him yanked Akira out of the mindless bliss and made him yelp. But, Loki staunched his thoughtless attempts to squirm free by tightening his hold on the smaller male a little bit. Though even that slight pressure on Akira's midsection made the persona's thick load leak down his thighs.

It would be hell walking out of Mementos, but for now...Akira only melted into Loki's hand like hot butter.

[stars-n-scars]

Modern au because fuck period typical homophobia. Loosely based on the song talk to much by coin. Also, thanks to @bottombur for giving me the motivation to write this. Based of this post.

Robin has never hated anyone more in his life.

Okay, maybe that's an exaggeration but, the way Bruce looks at Finney is making his blood boil.

Group study session they said. It will be fun they said.

"Okay, we're all done with the homework!"

At any other time, Robin would be delighted to see Finney happy like this but, Robin couldn't get over the way they looked at each other. Robin had finally had a sliver of hope that finney liked him back, But then bruce had to ruin it.

Finney had just come out to robin as bisexual, then saying he had a crush on someone but refusing to say who. Now thinking back he probably meant Bruce not me, Robin thought, mad at himself.

"Okay, well I'm going to leave now. See you guys at school!" Bruce said putting his folder in his bag. "Bye Bruce, we'll see you at school!" Finney said waving at Bruce as he walked out the door.

"Robin, I know you're mad at me. I'm sorry. I should have never told you. You didn't talk the whole time. Im so sorry. You probably thought I didn't think I was paying attention. I saw you wrote nothing down. Im sorry" Finney sighed and sat down putting his head in his hands.

"I'm not mad" Robin mumbled quietly but, loud enough for Finney to hear. Finney shot him a confused look. The whole time Finney thought robin was mad at him because he was bisexual. "Well, you've been acting weird ever since I told you."

"No I haven't"

"Yes you have"

"No"

"Yes you have"

"no, I haven't"

"Yes, you def-"

"Finney could you just shut up for once" with that Robin stormed out of the door grabbing his backpack on the way out. He didn't even care he if left some of his things there. He just wanted to get out of that house.

Finney grabbed his arm turning him around to face him. Finney looked at robins face, studying it. "Your jealous" Finney said after an uncomfortable minute. "What, no I'm not. What would I be jealous of?" Robin replied, lying to himself and finney?

"I don't know, I'm not you. But my best guess is our friendship." Finney shrugged. "Close enough, I guess" Robin whispered quietly. "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have brought Bruce. I'm sorry. I didn't help you at all. And me and you are better friends than me and Bruce will ever be."Finney rambled

"Oh my God, you talk a lot," Robin said shutting him up. "Yeah, I'm sorry. It just anyti-" Robin kisses him successfully shutting Finney up.

"I should do that more often.

Thanks for reading!

[that-thing-that-feeling]

what are your reasons for thinking they might kill off Jonathan? I'm worried for him next season as well. One of the biggest show criticisms is that it was unrealistic that all the main characters have avoided permanent death. They teased it with hopper and max but never followed through. If they decide to give in to that criticism and do it in the final season I can see them doing it with Jonathan because he's the character they have shown least interest in.

People argue it won't be Jonathan because it won't make much of an emotional impact on the Audience but I don't think they would care so much about that because they've done that with other characters. It would be more likely done to prove people wrong that they're too scared to kill off a main. As for the impact on Joyce and will, with it being the final season they'll probably gloss over their grief by doing a big time jump where they've moved on and come to terms with it.

It’s for exactly these reasons. While I think it’s still unclear if they’re killing off a main (and I hope they don’t), it seemed like they were weighing it.

Characters they wouldn’t kill:

The kids—I just don’t think they’d do that, it would be too cruel. They wouldn’t leave that without major consequences which can’t happen since it’s the final season. They have already come close to it with Max. El and Will will go thru hell in s5, but both will be safe at the end (it defeats the purpose of the whole show to kill either)

Steve—they won’t put Dustin through that again. They essentially killed Eddie to not kill Steve.

Robin—idk I just don’t think they’d kill her. I think they will show her happy in love by the epilogue.

Nancy—they wouldn’t kill her, she has v clear future plans that they will show and it undercuts how they’ve built her plotline.

Hopper—he already was dead and came back, they’re not going to kill him again, plus Jopper reasons

Karen and Ted—Hmm idk actually Karen could be a possibility, but killing parents has big stakes.

Character I’m a bit worried about:

Joyce—I was initially more worried they could kill Joyce. If the season has a focus on Will, she would sacrifice herself for him. However, I don’t think they’d do that to Jopper and have Will lose his mom

Character they could kill:

Jonathan—if Will is a focus, he could put himself in the way of danger for him. Plus the comment that having them reconnect was impt (altho then we found out they added that scene last minute). But most of all it’s what you say: they’ve so underwritten him and so underdeveloped all his relationships, he’s the main that could be killed without having to show the consequences, which is what they kept discussing in that interview. Because they’re the least interested in him and he is the one the audience is the least interested in, it’s a way to kill a main and have it not be some huge thing, because they haven’t treated him as a main. They’ve also made his future plans/goals now unclear, and while Joyce, Will, and Nancy would be sad, they would find a way to gloss over it and they’ve de-emphasized those relationships. It also means the big bad does get a Byers brother, just not the one you’d think from the first season.

Mind you I’m not hoping Jonathan is killed; don’t take this that way. I’m just worried he’s the easiest main for them to kill, and so they might, if they go that route. They might not kill a main and kill Murray or something, idk. Or not kill anyone except the big bad.

Character who will def die:

Vecna/Henry/One/the MF

[ectonurites]

i’ve recently had a major epiphany but i have no clue if it’s accurate.... i feel like people sometimes say that tim was “made to be robin” and that’s why he can’t move on and then everyone’s like “yeah dude so were the first two”, so i think why that is is bc tim wasn’t really set up to be anybody else until red robin began?....like dick and bruce fought and so did jason and bruce while they were still robin but tim didn’t really. fight? like that? like the major fight i can think of is his 16th birthday and as far as i can recall that was just pretty much smoothed over by the end of the arc? (i could be totally wrong i read this like last year) but in rr tim is fighting with dick about being robin and what the next step is, which he didn’t really do with bruce in the same kind of all-out argument way. like even damian and steph had their own conflicts with bruce, and dc didn’t really have that much trouble shuffling them out of the mantle.... i guess tim just needs to start yelling at bruce to get to age past 17..... anyways i could be completely off base here and forgetting something major so sry for the essay

LMAO no need to be sorry, I get that logic!! I definitely think that plays a part of it.

My personal take is that the biggest factor in Tim’s current perma-Robin state is just how bad the reboot fucked with things. Because before the New 52, Tim as Red Robin like... it was way more distinct from the Robin role than it is now! He had an actual reason he had to stop being Robin (Damian becoming Robin, thus Tim getting booted from the role), like the previous Robins had had reasons to stop (Dick getting fired, Jason dying, and also Steph was fired) and he was trying to re-establish himself and figure out who he was separately, and he was like... doing it! He was making his own base, he had his own kinda connections of people outside just the immediate fam (Lonnie, Pru, Tam his social relationship kinda fell apart with but work wise she was still there) he was still trying to figure out the direction at the very end, sure, but he wasn’t stagnant how he is now. He was very clearly on the path to grow into his own thing but it just got cut short.

When the New 52 first happened they had established that ‘Red Robin’ had been what he was first, that he hadn’t even actually been Robin originally! That he chose to go by ‘Red Robin’ out of respect for the Robin role having died with Jason (until Damian came along), that was the reasoning they gave. Even though Rebirth fixed this and re-established Tim having been Robin before Red Robin, the damage was still kinda done, because the New 52 treating Red Robin like that kinda... turned Red Robin into really just being Robin 2 instead of how in the pre-reboot world it had been something Tim was making into it’s own independent role. And then with the memory resurfacing things and the YJ relaunch they just straight up were like ‘fuck it its Robin time’ with him again, which I totally understood bc it made sense for a YJ nostalgia thing, but like, putting him back like that as a ‘forever’ thing just... not only is it making him stagnant it arguably borders on pushing him backwards as a character. 

Which is why I think at this point he needs a new separate identity, because Red Robin is too directly tied to the Robin role now, way more than it had been before the New 52. And if he just stays in this Robin/Red Robin zone, nothings gonna... happen with him. He is not going to develop more, DC doesn’t know what to do with him there because while yes with a lot of roles there can be multiple people having it, if one Robin has an ongoing solo they’re probably not gonna be promoting much with a second Robin too. He needs a new identity to find a more unique space in the family for himself. And, based on the description for his Urban Legends story, “seeking a new purpose” feels like they could be starting to finally set this up.

Drake was the right kind of idea, just with a stupid name and a not great costume, but honestly the bigger problem with it was there wasn’t a real motivation for it beyond ‘evil earth-3 me said this thing.. ooooo’ like that’s not... quite enough. I think I’d agree that a conflict either with Bruce or someone else in the fam would be a much better source of that motivation, like, it needs to be something where he feels pushed to the point that he can’t be Robin/a Robin equivalent anymore, either by choice or because he got fired or something. It definitely could be something more internal, but it just would need to be handled better than the Drake thing was LMAO. 

idk if that makes sense in response to what you said, but I def don’t think you’re wrong or anything, that definitely plays a part in this. I think just... in general... DC is kinda lost on what to do with Tim right now and I really hope they figure it out soon.

[kaypeace21]

Hey Kay! I was wondering... I'm thinking of writing a Byler fic. Is there anything that's missing from the current fic library that you think would be good to see, in terms of tropes, characterisation, things to explore, etc? I would also appreciate hearing from your followers. Just any ideas that people would like to see in a fic.

yeah sure ...

1)We need more povs from Mike’s perspective. (Almost all are from Will’s pov - let’s mix it up sometimes)

Mike in canon is the pinning-gay -(overly romantic) whipped one , but we never see it. And he’s pretty much never written this way! Mike in s3 has 6 drawings from Will on his wall  (he kept them up since s1-for years- despite replacing the poster on the same wall). Has even caressed extra drawings of Will’s that he’s kept in his binder.  In s1 wrote a whole story for Will about defeating a monster and giving the king it’s  7 heads (cause Will rolled a 7 when the demogorgan attacked him.) And as a Star Wars fan he had his own character be given a medal by the king (like how leia gave the medal to Han for his heroism.) He attacked people for insulting Will. Literally hates apologizing -but is quick to do so for Will . Boy ran in the pouring rain twice for Will- disobeying cops, the government, and his parents to do so. He initiates every byler moment (arm thing, hand touch, ‘best thing i’ve ever done’, ‘crazy together, right?’, always asking Will “what’s wrong?” or “are you ok?” etc). And was upset at Will dancing with a girl + insecure about Will replacing him -after he moves away.

-but 90% of byler fanfics (don’t get me wrong some are good) are from Will’s pinning perspective. Also do people realize Mike is clearly the more romantic/ emotional open of the 2 while Will is clearly the more emotionally closed off/aloof one?  He loves Mike too- but he’s def less obvious about his feelings- based on how he behaves. Will rarely opens up to people (Mike being an exception). But, it’s never written that way (usually it’s the opposite).  

2) as a gay women all the reductive stereotypes annoy me. it’s obvious when fic writers try to have the gay romance be modeled after het romance- and try to make one into the ‘girl’/ ‘guy’. Duffers don’t stereotype  Mike or Will but a lot of fanfiction writers do in order to make the gay romance resemble a straight one more (canon character traits, be dammed). Please, stop pushing heterosexual dynamics on gay and lesbian couples and trying to make one “the girl” and “the guy”. It’s very offensive and innaccurate.

Because he’s taller and most people head canon him as bi they make Mike a jock (despite in canon having horrible aim and not being able to run as fast as the rest of the gang). And Will (since most see him as gay) is weak/ sucks at sports compared to mike...despite knowing how to use a bat, shoot a gun, and being able to tear castle byers apart with his bare hands . Also nothing in canon shows Will likes to wear makeup and dress in drag (but it’s a constant thing that i’ve heard come up or heard others mention). It would be fine if he wanted to express himself in such a way. And if it only came up in an occasional fic it wouldn’t be a big deal. But it’s such a common theme that comes up (despite no canon evidence) that in most cases it just screams ‘straight writers trying to make Will into “the girl”’.  Not to mention the huge emphasis of their height difference (shows this too). It can get annoying calling him “short” & “petite” (a term used for women) when will isn’t even the shortest guy member- and now his actor is way taller than gaten (dustin) a bit taller (I think?) than caleb (Lucas) and barely shorter than finn (Mike’s actor). But writers even in future fics write him as short...ok? ya’ll really can’t let go of making Will “the girl.” Cause ya’ll incorrectly equate shortness to femminity. It’s tiring. Some writers straight up say he’s “pretty “, “feminine” or “looks like a girl” 🙄

3) it’s not byler if it’s unrequited- stop tagging it as such

4) more emphasis on Will’s passions(art, writing, horror movies). Maybe in his upbringing with Lonnie.And jon being a good bro to him. Will’s Mental health issues maybe ?

5) mike is a socially awkward, clumsy, unathletic, (caring) science/sci-fi /D&D loving nerd. In au whatever- but mike is not a bro-y jock, or a cool bad boy. 😂 plus , more writer mike would be nice to see

6) headcanon him all you want -but at this point it’s pretty obvious (to me at least) Mike never loved el,and was just lying/confused/ projecting Will on her. And El is/was also confused and never loved mike.   so it would be nicer to see that instead of Mike just ‘falling out of love’ with her. Mike is gay. people say in s3 Will saying “a day free of girls” is gay coded but everyone ignores Mike in s3 saying “BOYS ONLY”. same energy. writers even threw in a telemarketing joke so Mike says in s3 “El? no. sorry not interested.” And Mike has more rainbow refs than Will.  Boy is clearly gay not bi (way too much evidence to talk about here) .  They even  compare mileven to ted/karen who “never loved each other.”   The  writers make fun of mileven constantly and say over and over it’s not actually romantic - (if you choose to read just 1 link read this one  and get with the program) . plus, most Bi dudes  wouldn’t stop being attracted to a girl the more fem she gets (and only be attracted to her when she looks like a “guy”(specifically their guy friend).which yes the characters in s1 said over and over again that El looked like a “boy”/“will”.  And then they have him Makeout with her while putting up a  drawing of said male bff on the wall (cause now she looks less like him) and so he needs to look at said bro, to stomach the makeout seshes/ and in an effort to transfer said romantic feelings from guy friend to gf. Then push his gf’s hands off himself during the kisses- sing to stop kissing, and  kiss to mostly show off how straight he is. And without said pic- not kiss back and just keep his eyes open and not reciprocate. Nor would they have Mike equate het romance to something he thinks he has to do as a part of growing up . Bi dudes consider falling for a girl as simply romance not a foreign idea that has to be done cause there’s no other option and that’s ‘just what old people do’. Mike claims el is the only girl he’s ever had feelings for - but like dustin said mileven is “bullshit “ (stancy parallel -where nancy was not in love but faking it). So mike’s never been into a girl and is also into Will... so...

7) it’s the 80s they can’t just be open/ have pda in public (you could have gotten k*lled or beaten severely.) And most of their friends/fam would not take it well initially. (I think jon, Karen , and steve/robin would take it well... but not most of the crew.) although they’d all prob come around eventually . -Takes me out of a fic to have such historical revisionism when everyone is just totally fine with byler and they’re out to the public/strangers.

but that’s just me. What about you guys?