#rip to the duffers and their victim complex
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yknow. sometimes when i see anti posts i just sit here and think ‘damn. you would not have gotten Jennifer’s Body’
#billy hargrove#like. my loves… theres this thing called nuance#and that is what makes billy a complex and compelling characters whether you like it or not#someone can be both victim and villain. there is this thing called grey area and those things do overlap#and the audience is SUPPOSED to feel conflicted over the treatment of these characters#im just sitting here shaking the bars of my cage like MY LOVES. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY#the duffers arent good writers. but you can practically place a 1:1 of billy and jennifer#AND THE POINT OF JENNIFER’S CHARACTER IS THAT SHES FUCKED UP AND STILL DESERVED BETTER. THAT SHE WAS NAIVE AND DESERVED TO GROW#BUT THE CHANCE WAS TAKEN FROM HER AND SHE WAS TURNED INTO A MONSTER. BILLY IS THE SAME. LITERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY#I THINK THIS IS LOST ON YOU AND IM NOT SURE THERES MUCH ANYONE CAN DO FOR YOU FROM HERE#like. good lord. ive seen people straight up deny that hes complex and boil his plot in s3 down to excusing racism and just-#NO. THAT- ITS- NO!! THIS IS A JENNIFER’S BODY SITUATION#im scratching at the walls here guys#anyway im normal again now. i just had strong feelings for a sec#anyway. jennifer’s body au? thoughts?#actually also rip billy hargrove. you wouldve loved jennifer’s body
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Even if they don't want to acknowledge Billy's home life as a reason to understand his behaviour in season 2. (Which I can get on a base level, he's very easy to project your own personal bully's behaviour onto.)
To see him get violently stripped of his bodily autonomy, puppeteered around by a lovcraftien monster to do nightmarish things he has absolutely no possibility of understanding. All ending in a brief moment of control before its ripped away in brutal death...
No one is asking them to like him but seeing anyone go through that, let alone a kid AND STILL not giving him an ounce of compassion or thinking that's enough torture for even a sliver of empathy?
There are monsters here... but they sure as hell ain't Billy or the Mindflayer
When people call Billy an “abusive racist asshole,” it’s almost always used as a device to avoid any responsibility they have as a viewer to critically engage with Billy’s story and almost never about holding him ��accountable” for anything he actually did wrong - because why are we calling him that with full confidence in reference to a season where he wasn’t abusive or racist? Why do people feel justified and gleeful even at the thought of Billy being resurrected only to be painfully tortured and killed again? These people are not good people, but they’re cosplaying as good people. They’re cosplaying as allies who pretend to care about systematic abuse and racism while condemning people hurt by those systems to a brutal, humiliating, and dehumanizing death. That looks and sounds like advocacy for institutional harm which disproportionately impacts people who have been abused.
There’s nothing entertaining about Billy crashing his car in the middle of nowhere after driving out to a cheap motel where he was supposed to meet up with an adult who preyed on him. There’s nothing joyful about Billy being pulled violently down the stairs screaming and clawing to get free while a monster violates him body and mind. I don’t understand the sick pleasure these people get out of every single thing being taken from Billy including his bodily autonomy, as if he didn’t already spend a significant part of his life being controlled by his abuser. It also doesn’t make sense to insist that Billy died a “piece of shit” who didn’t redeem himself when he literally gave up his life so that the people of Hawkins, none of whom really gave a shit about him, could live. These people don’t care about abuse or racism. They’re losers with victim complexes just like The Duffers who can’t accept that their bullies real or imagined have complex lives.
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So, random…
I grew up around Metalheads. My dad managed several music stores when I was growing up, and I spent a lot of time in those music stores after school. A lot of his employees were Metalheads, especially musicians with their own bands. They had long hair. Piercings. Tattoos. Et cetera. I often got bored easily after school waiting for my dad to finish work, so they would just entertain me as much as possible. Like, one time we went on a “ghost hunt” around the store. One would run around the store with me looking for ghosts, while the other would be like in the back of the store making spooky noises using an amp. Also, I would just… swim in giant boxes full of packing peanuts. Also they would record me saying slanderous things about my dad to use against him like “My dad stinks up the bathroom” and they would tell me to go up to strangers and say “Please buy a guitar from my dad, I am very hungry :(” and I would and it worked.
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