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I'd love for you to make your own version of the DT tier list. https://tiermaker.com/create/ultimate-danganronpa-and-fanganronpa-tier-list-565102
This took so long to do but its here. Eternal Endings and Cartoons in Danganronpa are of course not on the list so I cannot list them.
Blowback and Re:Birth don't have strong opinions from me because its been so long since I last checked on them.
#review anon talks#danganronpa#dr#tier list#danganronpa trigger happy havoc#dr1#danganronpa goodbye despair#sdr2#ultra despair girls#udg#danganronpa 3#dr3#killing harmony#v3#danganronpa another#dra#super danganronpa another 2#sdra2#danganronpa blowback#drbb#danganronpa rebirth#drrb#danganronpa despair time spoilers#drdt#danganronpa f shattered hope#i'm not tagging the mistake#it gets its own hell
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Oh, speaking of Ace, thoughts on him?
Ace Markely is a interesting one that's to be sure. At first glance he seemed to be a fusion of Kazuichi and Hiyoko, someone who talks tough, bullies others and is a coward. Yet Chapter 2 manages to deconstruct him a fair bit.
He goes through some negative character development, rather then become a better person, he becomes worse as his thanatophobia is so great that he is willing to kill to avoid death. He goes for Eden first because of how small and weak she is after but Arei moved up many people's tier lists, he switched targets and decided to go for her.
Ace is a deconstruct of the annoying coward nobody likes because the fact everyone thinks he's stupid, that he's a coward and nobody likes him, has pushed him into a massive corner. Nobody stopped to think he was okay, and the one person who did, was revealed to be a sociopath who never cared for Ace because he doesn't care for other people.
In addition his bullying of Nico, and I do wonder why because is it because Ace thinks they're pathetic? It isn't because they're an enby as the bullying started before Ace found out and all of all the things he could do, being a bigot isn't one of them. At least he has some standards. But he pushed Nico to their breaking point which is why they tried to kill him. And this convinced Ace, especially how apathatic everyone was to him almost dying, that he needed to kill. This was someone pushed into a corner and lashing out.
Veronika made a very good point and warning that Ace needed to tone down his behaviour but the problem is its Veronika, so she says it in a very creepy way which means the actual message doesn't come across.
He's also in the stereotype of not only a male athletic that kills but one that hates his talent as horses scare him and its the fear of them trampling him that drives him. We do find out the reason why he's so scared of dying is because he saw a friend of his die at a young age. But if we don't get confirmation on who that is or someone else I might do some tweaking of my own~
While Ace being the culprit kinda came out of nowhere the main fault was really how focused everyone was on the secrets. Believe me when Part 2 of my Chapter 2 Despair Time Review comes out, I will really rip the secrets apart as they are the worst part of the Chapter.
The big moment was ironically one of his last as when Teruko told him to destroy MonoTV and when it resulted in her being attacked, and Levi blocking the shot, Ace knew the only way to save Levi was for him to die, then the lifts could work and Levi could get medicial aid, and so he faces his death.
I saw a Ultimate Jockey execution when the victim was tied behind a horse and literally dragged behind it and torn to shreds and if that was where Ace was going I would have complianed massively but thankfully they focused on his character and his fear of death by having him face death scenario after death scenario until he literally has a fear induced heart attack and dies. This could actually happen irl and its why exposure therapy can be quite bad.
In addition I have some very interesting plans for Ace. But I am waiting for his bonus video to come out first since they could ruin my plans. Overall I feel like Ace is a compelling character and a harsh reminder why you shouldn't push someone to their limit.
#review anon talks#danganronpa#dr#danganronnpa despair time#drdt#ace markey#also bro doesn't know what food is#he's probably hangry and that's why he picks fights all the time#makes me wonder how the friend died#we will find out
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RA how have you guessed both Tetro culprits right so far plz teach me your ways
It’s called taking in every detail and monitoring everyone’s behaviour.
And hyper focus on that. If the story is good and the writer isn’t looking to do a gotcha to the audience, then you will get the culprit right most of the time.
Sasaki wasn’t good at hiding her emotions and that got my sus meter going on, to the point I felt even the creator themselves was alarmed how fast I caught on.
With Harada, the lack of Sawa noises got me suspicious as she’s normally making some noise, the fact I felt Harada was crying a little too hard to just be grief of losing a friend but genuine remorse over what he done and then once the blood was found…I managed to figure out that you don’t shove a tiger into a Killing Game for a good reason.
I still remember before V3 came out I did some predictions on who I believed the victim order is and this is what I came up with;
Chapter 1:
Victim: Kiibo
Killer: Tsumugi
Chapter 2:
Victim: Ryoma
Killer: Himiko
Chapter 3:
Victim 1: Angie
Victim 2: Kirumi
Culprit: Korekiyo
Chapter 4:
Victim: Kokichi
Culprit: Gonta
Chapter 5
Victim: Rantaro (But he lives in good ending)
Culprit/Traitor: Shuichi (This when I thought Shuichi was gonna be the rival)
Mastermind: Maki
Survivors: Kaede, Rantaro, Miu, Tenko and Kaito
It’s honestly frightening how much I got right from mere guesswork before the game came out and some weren’t even that far off.
And that’s not even getting into how I drew up scenarios for some of this and how I crafted V3’s Chapter 4 was almost a mirror copy for how a certain SDRA2 character would behave, almost as if they stole my ideas.
#review anon talks#danganronpa#dr#tetro danganronpa pink#danganronpa v3 killing harmony#this is why I believe if the mod and anonsonas are ever in a killing game#i would be a chapter 1 or 2 victim#if i last longer then that you have to suspect me as being in on the killing game#because i would have already figured out the mastermind by then
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Despair Time Chapter 2 Review Part 1: The Good
Hey guys Review Anon here and what’s this? I’m reviewing something other than ASOOT arcs? Yes, yes, I am. Shocker I know but I am not treading too far as I’m still covering Danganronpa as I’m reviewing Chapter 2 of Despair Time now it’s finished. I have my thoughts on it and now I’ve taken some time to take it all in I can talk about what went well, what didn’t go well and what lessons we can take away from the whole thing. I was gonna wait until Bubbles does their review/rant but natural disasters are bitches and power hasn’t been restored yet. So, I’m doing this now to get out of the way.
And for any people coming here from non ASOOT related tags then I will apologise in advance because you are gonna be in for a LOOONNNGGGG read. If you are the type to go tl;dr then turn away now.
I presume the rest of you want to read it? Well, let’s get right to it. I’ve split this into three parts because I don’t want to do Google Docs for this, and it would be an easier read for those who came from the non ASOOT space as you guys aren’t used to my lengthy reviews. Consider this your crash course on how I review, in extreme detail and excessive word count. This right here is about 8.5k which is a bite size by my standards which should tell you everything.
Please bear in mind you will have to wait a bit for the next parts as I want to get my current project done before this. Its just I didn't anticipate this taking so long.
Anyway, let’s get right into it, shall we?
Chains of Friendship
Chapter 1s for any Fanronpa tend to be very shocking as it’s the creator’s way to try and surprise the audience and subvert any expectations they have. Some do this well, others do not. But Despair Time was one of those who did it well by how it handled the main protagonist Teruko Tawaki.
At first glance she seemed to be an atypical Danganronpa protagonist. Ultimate Lucky Student? Check. Has an ahoge? Check. Believes in friendship, trust, hope and all those bollocks? Check. Gets backstabbed by someone they believed to be a friend in the first chapter? Check quite literally. Forgives said friend and continues to be a ray of sunshine? Ch- oh wait hang on a minute she didn’t do that at all.
Yeeaahhh while Xander’s sudden attempted murder on Teruko was a massive shock, what was even more so that Teruko decided to say fuck friendship and trust and not trust anyone ever again. On one hand you can understand Teruko’s rage. She was very close to Xander and he used that trust to try and kill her. Min was also someone who supported Teruko and she was willing to throw Teruko under the bus to save her own skin. None of the others stood up for her as they all decided that Teruko killed Xander, and it was only thanks to the power of protagonist energy and using basic logic that saved them. As such Teruko was well within her right to call everyone out for being selfish bastards. Especially since as we get to know more of Teruko this chapter, we learn that what happened in Chapter 1, while extreme, is a snapshot of her entire life due to how ruinous her luck has been.
I don’t think I’ve said this before, but I will say it now, luck SUCKS in the Danganronpa universe. Look at all the Lucky Students we had, Makoto is the only one who has a decent life and he loses the most. Nagito is so ravaged by luck he’s become suicidal and depressed. Yuki goes through literal hell due to his luck and the less said about Utsuro, the better. And while it’s still very much a WIP, one of my OCs is a Lucky Student and her life is equally ruined by her luck. But don’t worry I’ve not copy pasted it from anyone else as the direction I’ve taken my OC is in a way nobody has done before. And what Teruko has here is a fine example of that. She is an orphan who was abandoned by everyone in her life, she has numerous wounds on her body, she barely has any education as she has to sneak into large schools as a student and then once the gig is up, run away and her finances are in ruins due to the hospital bills. Its little surprise why she likes the Killing Game, as she gets guaranteed food and shelter here, which is more then what can be said outside. But even that has a silver lining as we know whoever the mastermind is, they have it out for her.
However, while this is a massive departure from what the typical protagonist would go through, it’s a known fact that in a Killing Game, you NEED to work with others. Class Trials are decided by majority vote and so if you become a pariah, you are very likely to be ignored and might risk dooming yourself or others if what you are saying is true. Teruko doesn’t have to like her classmates, but she needs to learn to coexist with them. Especially since Teruko switching from “I hate and distrust everyone” to “We are all friends” is a major mood whiplash I doubt anyone would do. So naturally one of the main themes of this chapter is learning to rebuild trust after its broken and the consequences of not trusting anyone.
Two major voices object to Teruko’s self-imposed isolation and distrust of everyone. The first is Eden Tobisa. She’s always been a cheerful and optimistic person within the Killing Game and has taken Xander’s and Min’s deaths harshly. In a way Eden behaves more like what a typical Danganronpa protagonist does, wanting to be friends with everyone and being kind. When she tries to get Teruko to bake with her, Teruko reminds her the last time they baked was with Hu, Rose and Min and that was later used for Min’s murder of Xander. She calls her naïve for being optimistic and says she won’t be friends with her, because she knows that at some point, Eden will crack from the harsh reality of the Killing Game and the luckster doesn’t want a stake in it. Kindness will always be rewarded with cruelty.
But when she says this Eden surprises her as contrary to what Teruko thinks, Eden isn’t oblivious to the cruelness of the Killing Game and reality as a whole. Yet the small clockmaker chooses to be kind because it’s the right thing to do, and if you give someone kindness while people can backstab you, you can be rewarded. When it comes to trust and distrust you need a healthy balance.
When I reviewed Black and White Christmas, I didn’t like how Sunako was forcing the Quantum Crew to trust the 76 Squad for a couple of reasons. I tried explaining it at the time, but I felt I telegraphed it quite poorly and I’m sure that’s irritated Mod Poi. The first one is on me, as I didn’t really know the 76 Squad then and as such couldn’t really tell at face value if they were to be trusted or not. Since they are from NWPM and I struggled to read it, my lack of knowledge led to that judgement, but the other thing is that I compared the whole thing to Raja and the Last Dragon and how it mishandled the theme of trust. Expect I didn’t explain it very well or misunderstood the hate. The main reason Raja got betrayed the first time was because she trusted Namaari too much, which you should never do to people you literally just meet. Give them the benefit of doubt yes, but never open yourself up to someone you don’t know that well. Teruko made that mistake with Xander and that’s why she got a knife in her gut.
While it’s a heartfelt speech, it had a notable impact on Teruko as she didn’t know how to respond. When you expect nothing but betrayal and backstabbing, having someone be kind for the sake of it can shock you. It’s the same shock Kyoko experienced in Trigger Happy Havoc when she didn’t expect Makoto to keep his mouth shut about evidence that he knows is false, and he explained it’s because he trusts her, she didn’t know how to respond. While Eden isn’t the main protagonist, the same principle applies.
Eden isn’t the only person who objects to Teruko’s views that you should never have faith in others as the other is Charles Cuevas. Starting off Charles was your atypical smug intellectual who believes he’s superior to others, akin like Byakuya and Rei. But much like them, he softens up and learns to work with others though in Charles’s case it’s a bit more extreme. In Chapter 1 he was revealed to suffer from Hemophobia, so much so that if he sees blood, he literally goes into shock and can’t remember anything. Xander uses this to his advantage to try and frame Charles for his would be killing of Teruko, but when it seems like everyone is turning on Charles, Whit is the one who stands up for him, gives evidence why he couldn’t do it and so Charles is cleared. This has caused the formally smug chemist to go through a bit of character development as while in Chapter 2 he still thinks his intelligence is beyond that of most of the cast, he isn’t pushing them down as much and has soften up to certain characters, most particularly Whit and Teruko. The former because he stood up for him and is an honest friend and the latter due to demonstrating that unlike most of the cast, Teruko actually uses her brain. It’s a slow burn but assuming Charles survives all to the end, he will become a much better person.
So, when Teruko talks about her disbelief that he is trusting people after what happened in the Class Trail, he brings up some valid points on why Teruko is actually being quite illogical as cooperation with others is key to surviving this game and humans are social pack animals by design, we work better as a team.
Chapter 1 Charles is pretty much Chapter 2 Teruko but after learning he cannot look at a corpse and thus is incapable of surviving on his own, Charles has started to learn how to rely on others. In some ways he doesn’t like how everyone pities him now so Teruko is a relief as her interactions with him haven’t changed. But while Eden says why Teruko is wrong from an emotional and moral perspective, Charles approaches it from a logical and factual point of view. As many analysts have already pointed out, it’s impossible to do a solo act in a Killing Game, if you want to live, you need to learn how to work with others. Either to prevent yourself from becoming a target, or so others can help you when you are down, much like how Whit helped Charles in his lowest point. As such using his own experiences, he knows the direction Teruko is coming from and implores her to reconsider as eventually events will occur which will force her back to trusting others again.
I like this as we have two different characters, both who get tons of development this Chapter, attacking Teruko’s morals from different angles. But while they are definitely making dents, Teruko is able to justify in her worldview that she’s been beaten too many times to be like Eden, especially as Eden seems to have had a good life where her worst secret is that she’s a closet lesbian. Which okay its definitely something Eden might have been harassed over if bigotry is still a thing in this world, but with so many of the cast being LGBTQ, it’s not the worst secret in the world. And for Charles, he has a deliberating condition which prevents him from surviving on his own. Everyone knows about Teruko’s luck and she’s survived this well without needing help on it so she doesn’t need to rely on others.
Expect of course, she’s wrong, because during an interaction with Veronika, she brings up the suggestion that Teruko might have prosopagnosia.
While it’s not confirmed in this Chapter, I do believe Bubbles has a point that Teruko might have face blindness but I don’t think its prosopagnosia. Recall that Teruko has had a very harsh upbringing where she couldn’t get close to people or have a solid support network. It’s known that having a disruptive childhood can lead to arrested development in various areas. I recall a case where a woman had blurry vision for a long time as a child and wasn’t diagnosed as shortsighted until much later in her life and because this happened after the point in a child’s development where the sense of self develops, it means this woman had a lot of self-identity problems and has a hard time recognising herself or others. But she doesn’t have prosopagnosia as that’s a neurological condition you are born with. Rather I feel the face blindness is due to people fazing in and out of Teruko’s life so much that she doesn’t bother forming connections and that is what’s fucked her up.
Regardless of the technicities, it IS a problem in a Killing Game because it would be very easy for someone to trick Teruko by merely dressing up as someone else. That wouldn’t be a problem if Teruko has a support network in place, but if she doesn’t, then she’s a goner. So, like Charles, for medical reasons Teruko doesn’t have the means to stand on her own and needs others to help her.
But the one character who shattered Teruko’s worldview and made her realise what she’s doing is wrong is the victim of this chapter; Arei Nageishi.
When Arei was introduced back in the Prologue at first it seemed like she was gonna be an insufferable Hiyoko-like character. She’s vicious, mean and enjoys tormenting others. But Chapter 1 reveals some layers to her as when Eden invited Teruko, Rose, Min and Hu to bake, Arei got really upset because she wasn’t invited, implying she wants to be involved with the group but doesn’t know how to approach it in any way other than being mean. Then during her FTE with J, she reveals that she has a ranking system in place for how badly she bullies other, while some like J get mild teasing, others she will try to ruin their lives completely. And for kind people she will make sure they cry because she cannot stand anyone being kind, implying that Arei seems to have a real problem with people being kind.
As such when Eden goes to apologise to Arei for excluding her, at first Arei behaves like how Teruko would think she would, she belittles Eden, calls her dumb and says she’s gonna die if she keeps this up, which causes Eden to burst into tears and run away. But alone with David and Teruko, Arei confesses that she didn’t like doing that. She said that stuff to Eden to protect her, because she believes the world is like what Teruko says it is, that kindness cannot be rewarded with anything other than cruelty. And if Eden keeps this up, she’s gonna die. The reason for this is as you would expect due to trauma as Arei’s older sisters would torment her constantly and make her life hell, until Arei just had it and frame her sisters for a bunch of crimes which resulted in them getting send to reform school. This here is a snapshot of one of the main themes this chapter has so we will come back to it later. So, is Arei just reinforcing Teruko’s worldview? Nope. Because then Arei reveals that despite all of that, she WANTS kind people to exist, she HAS to be doubtful of Eden because she’s so kind and optimistic, the exact person Arei wants to have in her life, but her past experiences have gotten in the way. And as she breaks down sobbing due to that, something stirs within Teruko.
Without realising it, Arei has shot a massive wound in Teruko’s armour. She’s someone who is basically like Teruko, who is rude and cruel to others because every time she’s tried to be kind, it was slapped down and punished. She also believes the world is a dark and evil place, but she also wants to believe kind people exist, despite what her experiences have taught her. This is what Teruko is going through. The fact she does cactus puppet plays of Xander and Min, shows that despite what Teruko claims, she is not a sociopath and can care for others, and she wants to be friends with everyone but having been hurt so badly, she cannot get close again. Teruko, without realising it, sees a lot of herself within Arei. She denies it at the time but those words have an impact on her.
David’s speech to her, even though its hollow and not even Arei believed it because she saw his secret and knew he was a piece of shit, still didn’t mind it. The reason being is that even if someone like David, who is seen as a beacon of hope and sunshine, is a rotten bastard deep down, then its proof she isn’t too far gone. While obviously we don’t have David reveal this to the others, we see the conversation happen, and it clearly had an effect on David, due to him remembering it so vividly. Arei’s drive to become a better person wound up saving Eden’s life twice as she interrupted Arturo’s attack on Eden when she tried to reveal his secret to him, and by doing her stunt Ace, the culprit for this case, decided to switch targets and go for Arei instead of Eden. Which I’m glad that Eden didn’t die because if she did, that would convince many that Despair Time was gonna be a cynical work like the Another Series and The Mistake. And why of course Arei still died this chapter, her death was NOT caused by her reaching out to others because Ace was gonna kill regardless of what was happening. And Teruko’s rage at Ace for killing Arei was less about him having a shitty motive but because had Arei lived, she and Teruko would have become good friends, since she would have understood Teruko’s pain and her desire to want to trust others regardless of her past.
Teruko also suffered the consequences of shutting others out as by being isolationist, Teruko has missed the context for a lot of what shenanigans have unfolded among others, and due to believing her viewpoint to be the only correct one, she makes mistakes. During the Class Trial, Teruko misreads the time and assumed the murder occurred at 8pm and NOT 8am which is Arei’s true time of death. Had Charles not pointed this out, David would be ruled as the culprit and everyone would have been executed. Another major mistake Teruko made was in how to end the Killing Game. When Veronika said that Eden had an idea to end the Killing Game by being as boring as possible, Teruko said that wouldn’t work as that’s why motives exist, whereas she has an idea but she needs to wait until the next murder occurs. We are left hanging, and for Arei’s case quite literally on what she meant by that, that is until Ace was exposed as the culprit and Teruko asks Ace to do something outrageous; Kill MonoTV.
Teruko’s logic for this at first glance seems sound. The reason the Killing Game occurs is due to the fact they have to follow MonoTV’s rules, and breaking them results in death. However, with Ace due to die via execution, he has nothing to lose. If he destroys MonoTV he has a chance to save his own life, of course if he fails, so what, Ace is gonna die anything so it achieves nothing. In short, there is no downsides and only upsides.
Expect of course if you have been paying attention, this is not the case. Firstly, normally with the mascots they tend to have copies, one gets destroyed, another takes its place. Thus, the game will carry on, but then there’s another one and one that tripped a lot of people up. When MonoTV was asked who would be the blackened, he said whoever was the most “mastermind-y” Now a lot of people interpreted this as being whoever is behind the murder and not necessarily the murderer. This is why Bubbles proposed that while Hu would be the one to kill Arei/J, David would be the blackened as he was the one who manipulated Hu into doing so. But this logic doesn’t just apply to murders, when Ace obliges and tries to smash MonoTV, it doesn’t work due to the robot being more durable then initially thought, the AI said that while Ace did break a rule, he was gonna be executed anyway so it would achieve nothing. As such the one being punished would be the one who told Ace to break said rule; Teruko herself.
As the countdown for Teruko to get gatling gunned occurs, I wasn’t worried like Teruko, as I KNEW someone was gonna jump in front of her and take the shots. The question was; who? I was thinking either Eden or Charles would do so as both have strong connections to Teruko, and for both it would be a massive contribution to their characters. In Eden’s case its shows she’s not scared to fight what she believes in, and returning the favour. Teruko stood up for her when the culprits narrowed down to Ace and herself, and Teruko decided to focus on Ace, so the petite clockmaker would return the favour. For Charles, it would be him facing his fears as he is terrified of the sight of blood and gore, so him jumping in front of the way of a gatling gun, assuming he survives, would show how much he is starting to care for the others. Anyone else aside those two…I didn’t think so. Ace would have never done so as I’m sure he is the one who voted for Teruko. Nico clearly wanted to get away with their crimes and the others either aren’t close to Teruko or jumping in front of the gun would be out of character for them. So, when the timer hit zero, I expected a CGI of either Eden or Charles with a lot of bullets in them…
But instead, my expectations were blown wide open by the fact that Levi of all people jumped in front of Teruko and shielded her from the bullets. This reminded me very much of when Akane was almost blown up by a bazooka by Monokuma but Nekomaru blocked his way and got shot. Considering what we learnt about Levi in this Chapter, this really took me off guard AND bumped him up several tiers in my character rankings.
But this had a total shock on Teruko, as she believed if she didn’t care for anyone else, nobody would likewise care for her, so the fact that someone cared enough to shield her from pain, and that they are on death’s door because of her, send shockwaves through Teruko’s body as when after Ace’s execution as everyone rushed to the infirmary to treat Levi, Teruko stayed behind to do something she said she would never do; mourn.
The amount of people who contributed to Teruko’s character development doesn’t end there as while those four are examples of positive interactions for Teruko, we have had two cases of negative interactions who serve a different purpose, the first is David Chiem.
When introduced David…seemed off. He seemed like an affable and friendly person who believes everyone has the motivation and desire to change, and Xander in particular seems to be a massive fanboy of him. But like most celebrities and people in public that is just a façade is in the Prologue when Xander went off to get something for his idol to sign, we see David chuckling to himself on how much of an idiot Xander is, without realising that Teruko was there to see it all, and his shock when she reveals she heard that, says it all. Chapter 2 brought up the suss meter even further when David ‘confessed’ his secret and implored everyone to discuss their own secrets, which far from doing good, ended up causing a lot of drama and tension. Anyone with a irk of sense could tell David was fake, I knew he was fake, Bubbles knew he was fake, pretty much most Youtubers reacting knew he was fake.
Another factor working against him is his VA. Quite a few SDRA2 English Dub VAs also worked on Despair Time, and for the most part is interesting to see their contrasts. Bblackroses is known for playing Hibiki Otonokoji, but here she is J who while Hibiki is a bubbly peppy girly-girly, J is a complete tomboy who hates the starlight and fame. Artimmissis Setsuka Chiebukuro, who is a very reliable woman with a prankster side to her, but here she is MonoTV an incompetent mastermind who tells the worst jokes. David Chiem’s VA is Sword of Swords who also worked on SDRA2, and what character did he play there?
Oh, nobody important, just Mikado Sannoji the Mastermind of that game, the leader of the main antagonist group Void and more or less a piece of shit.
At first glance the contrast seems to be that Mikado is an evil bastard whereas David is a moral force of good. But as the pressure mounts for David and the fact his secret is that he’s a manipulator who likes to deceive others, as well as how he mocked Arei’s desire for friends earlier, meant when it reached the boiling point the mask came off and David revealed his true self.
It’s here the true contrasts between him and Mikado become clear. Both are men who hide their true selves behind a mask, literally for Mikado and figuratively for David and both pretended to be forces of good before their masks slip and their true vile nature is revealed. David is obvious as he tried to be a good moral speaker whereas Mikado you might have missed it tried to be a hero and claim Void was a force of good before Rei and Teruya ruined it. In addition, their true selves are so VERY different. Mikado always remained polite and affable even when he is being extremely bastardry whereas David is rude, condensing and swears all the damn time. I also cannot help that David’s true self looking a lot like Utsuro, who is the main object of Mikado’s desires cannot NOT be a coincidence.
But what does David show for Teruko? Well, he seems to at a glance reinforce Teruko’s beliefs that nobody can be trusted as Teruko smugly pointed out she saw the warning signs of him being evil way before anyone else did. And whenever he talks to her, he seems to want to keep this act of Teruko hating everyone up, saying it’s her nature to distrust others and the only thing she trusts is the truth. And then here is his final confession he wants Teruko to trust what he’s saying. David is in a way a warning of the kind of person Teruko would become if she keeps on her current path. I also think that David had Teruko’s secret and knows it’s her fault the Killing Game is going on. The fact he keeps seemly praising Xander and calling him a good person is obviously an attempt to get under Teruko’s skin due to how she feels about him. I for one second don’t believe he cares about Xander.
Mr. Politician isn’t the only person who serves as a warning as the culprit of this chapter, Ace Markey does as well. Ace always seemed to be a coward as he is easily scared of his own shadow and while he talks tough, he doesn’t have the actions to back it up. However, in Chapter 2 Ace gets sick and tired of being a wimp and thus decides to become a bully, which is still being a coward as pretty much most bullies bully because they are cowards who want someone weaker than themselves to lord over to make themselves feel better. Yet what drives Ace’s actions is his Thanatophobia, fear of death which is a very bad thing to have in a Killing Game. Due to this fear, Ace decides to commit murder as he feels if he doesn’t kill someone, someone will do the same to him and the fact Nico almost does, reinforces this belief. Teruko is someone while not paranoid, is very distrustful of everyone and if she feels that anyone and everyone is out to get her, she could fall down the same slippery slope that Ace does.
Despite this, Ace still manages to surprise her as when Levi takes the bullets for her, everyone needs to get to the infirmary to treat Levi otherwise he dies, but the lift won’t work since Ace still needs to be executed. Ace has already made it very clear he hates and despises Levi, especially after the latter confesses that he doesn’t care about the former, which seemed to really hurt him, but seeing someone he hates that much do something so selfless, means he decides to do the one decent thing in his life, while also being his last, getting MonoTV to execute him so the lift doors open and Levi could be saved.
That I think was the final straw which broke Teruko. She has had mounting pressure throughout the entire Chapter but then someone who was a coward, sacrificing himself so that someone else could live, is the final crushing proof as well as the knowledge that while she avoided making the same mistakes as before, she just wound up making new ones, that caused her to cry alone in the Trial Room.
We also get interesting character interactions with Teruko and MonoTV throughout the chapter. Since Teruko isolated herself so much from the others, MonoTV hires her to do maintenance around the Killing Game since he’s too incompetent to do it himself. As Monokumas were originally butler robots this would have never happened in the main series. We learn a far bit about MonoTV, that he is a simple robot designed for the Killing Game and he doesn’t have full knowledge on who’s running the thing as he was only programmed to do what his tasks enabled. And as Teruko pointed out, he is sadistic as Min was executed before she could say everything she wanted to and Ace’s execution was dragged out for as long as possible, in both cases it’s to make the victims feel the most despair. The other interesting thing is that Teruko can use Monocoins to get him to remove other characters who are bothering her which is the complete contrast to FTEs. What should we call them instead? Exclusion Zone Effects or EZE? Nah that doesn’t roll off the tongue.
In conclusion, I really liked how Teruko was handled in this Chapter due to how much of a cliffhanger the previous chapter left with her. This chapter did so much to knock her down for her high and mighty view and while she won’t be buddy-buddy come Chapter 3, I do believe that she will be more approachable to the cast. Teruko’s journey throughout this fanganronpa will be interesting to see and I see her opening up more about her past as she gets more comfortable with the cast.
Trust in Nature
Every Danganronpa game has two themes, no matter how you slice it. The first theme is the most obvious one and this is a theme that the protagonist and the mastermind have in common. For Trigger Happy Havoc its Hope vs. Despair, Goodbye Despair is Future vs. Past and Killing Harmony is Truth vs. Lies.
Some have said that it’s too early to call what the themes for Despair Time are, but I disagree as Chapter 2 imo is the ideal time to introduce your themes, and I think I’ve worked them out. The primary theme is one that doesn’t take much to deduce and others have caught onto it and that is Optimism vs. Cynicism. Teruko is a very cynical individual and doesn’t think she can trust others but more optimistic people disagree, saying being jaded makes you more open to being deceived. Eden and Charles, who are 100% the partners in this fanganronpa serving similar roles to Kaito and Maki in Killing Harmony where one represents the emotional connection and the other the logical one. Eden is always a bundle of sunshine and wanting everyone to be happy, but unlike someone like say Makoto, she isn’t oblivious to the fact the world is cruel but chooses to be kind regardless because its decent and it’s the most moral thing to do. Charles is more logical based and originally was quite cynical but having been shown kindness by Whit, he has opened up a bit more to some other people and while he definitely is a work in progress, he is more optimistic about surviving and escaping the Killing Game.
And this brings me to the Rival of the Fanganronpa; David. Bubbles didn’t like David surviving past Chapter 2, ignoring their own hatred for David aside because they didn’t think David contributed anything meaningful to the overall narrative of Despair Time. I disagree harshly as if I am right with the main themes of Despair Time, David is 100% a perfect Rival character as he represents those themes so well. The cynicism side is obvious as David believes that everyone is gonna die in the Killing Game and there is no point to continuing so might as well get it over and done with. This is why when David’s true nature was exposed, he tried to claim to be the killer, which is another typical rival tactic, so everyone votes for him and they all die. This very logic is why Teruko said she is not the culprit because as soon as David went on his tirade, it would have been an instant win condition for her. And as the game progresses more and more people are gonna want to live to prove David wrong and his mental sanity is probably gonna decline as a result until his Rival protection cause expires in Chapter 5 where he probably dies in a way to try and spite the cast. Going back to the Mastermind, I believe they think the Despair Time cast are all horrible people that deserve to die, whenever that be because they are Neo Remnants of Despair or something to do with Teruko, and as such use the Killing Game to kill them all. By the end of the fanganronpa, Teruko would have become more like a typical Danganronpa protagonist and be able to defy the mastermind wanting to kill her by showing the world is not a bleak place and people can change and improve.
That brings me nicely to the secondary themes. The primary themes are shared between the protagonist and the mastermind, whereas the secondary themes are shared between the group and the rival character. This take a bit more thinking to figure out but I think I’ve cracked what Despair Time’s secondary theme is. Trigger Happy Havoc’s is working together as a team as the class are trying to work together to survive the Killing Game while Byakuya is trying to play the Killing Game in order to “win” and isolates himself from the others. Goodbye Despair’s secondary theme is a deconstruction of the idea of talent as despite being Ultimates, Class 77-B doesn’t really care about their talents and support each other for their own individual characteristics and despite Hajime being revealed to be a Reserve Course Student, are extremely accepting of him. Nagito by contrast believes Hope’s Peak talented and talentless system is gospel, praises his fellow Ultimates for their talents which they do not want to be reminded by and is extremely cruel to Hajime when he finds out he is a talentless person who thinks he can mingle with his idea of the elite. Killing Harmony’s secondary theme is wanting to remain stagnant and compliant as the V3 Cast are very content to stick to the status quo and carry on with their lives, whereas Kokichi would rather shake things up and challenge said status quo. All of these secondary themes are very important to the story. And with that I believe Despair Time’s secondary theme is if humanity is inherently good or evil.
That seems very similar to Optimism vs. Cynicism but it isn’t. This theme tackles if humans are capable of changing their nature or if they are always either good or evil. From this it’s very easy to see where David lies, he believes humanity cannot change their nature, people are either saints or scum. If someone can “change themselves” it’s because they were never that bad to begin with, whereas truly evil people cannot change. And Teruko also seems to agree on this concept because whenever Eden says she is a good person, Teruko tells her to stop as by saying that, she makes her feel worse for the fact she can change but she hasn’t made the effort to do so. Teruko always believed she was scum and would die like scum if she cared about nobody around her.
Naturally this chapter has a few characters who challenge this rule big time. Let’s start with Levi, the guy has always seemed chill but we get to see more of a scary side to him when he threatens to kill Ace if he doesn’t stop being an arsehole. We also have an interesting opening discussion with him and Eden where Levi confesses that he doesn’t see himself as a good person, contrary to what Eden thinks. This all gets revealed in the Class Trial when Levi admits that he doesn’t possess empathy and therefore cannot care about anyone around him, the fact he’s killed 4 people, one of whom being his own father and yet he treats it with the same disinterest as one would swat a fly, is very telling.
Fans were quick to diagnose Levi with Antisocial Personality Disorder, and this is where DT Dev actually impressed me big time. This disorder is one of the most maligned within society, even more so in my opinion then those on the autistic spectrum. The reason being is simple, almost every single time a fictional character is revealed to have this disorder they are almost always a psychopathic villain who kills everyone around them and gives zero shits. To say how damaging this stereotype is unbelievable and Levi is frankly the most realistic portrayal of someone with this disorder. Yes, Levi doesn’t have empathy, or a very low level of it, but he still tries to be a good person not because of morals and emotions, but more so out of a sense of duty, especially as before Levi revealed it nobody suspected a thing due to Levi not behaving like the usual stereotypes. He isn’t very good at it because he's trying to figure out how to be a good person which isn’t easy when it’s not instinct. When Ace asked if he cared about him at all and Levi responded with flat no, while Ace screamed at Levi in his usual manner, it’s clear the jockey was hurt by this reveal as a small part of him wanted to consider Levi a friend.
So, for Levi to then shield Teruko with his body from the gatling gun, not only comes as a massive shock but I believe this is Levi’s attempts of trying to prove he is a good person. Chances are, he wasn’t happy with how he handled the situation with Ace and wanted to prove something to him, so that’s why he protected Teruko, not only because thinking about it, Levi was probably one of the few characters who could survive that, but to try and redeem himself from how he mishandled the situation with Ace. And the effects of this are very clear as Ace, who was trying to prolong his death as much as possible, upon realising the only way to save Levi is for him to die, demands MonoTV to execute him. If someone without a clear concept of empathy can be a good person, then isn’t that proof humans can change?
Arei is another character who also wants to believe she can change. After she decides to become a good person, the bowler saves Eden from being threatened by Arturo and then later that night confronts David about the fact she knows he’s full of shit. We heard some of this originally from Ace who overheard the conversation, but when David is thinking about what to say to Eden, we hear the other half where Arei says she’s glad David is horrible because it means there is no such thing as a pure good person. That even someone like Eden might have done something nasty and if he’s so deprived then there’s hope left for her. She even offers a hand of friendship to David because she thinks they are one and the same, and they can improve their behaviour together. The fact David remembers this means the conversation had a meaningful impact on him, even though he doesn’t show it. What Arei is showing is clear existentialism or optimistic nihilism. Nihilism which I’m sure 75% of people reading this believe in, is where you believe nothing in the world matters because it’s all meaningless. Optimistic nihilism by contrast is saying that yes nothing matters, but that’s okay because you have the power to decide what is most important. Arei clearly believes there is no such thing as a pure good person, but what she can be is a slightly less shitty person then she was before.
And finally, there’s Ace. Ace’s motive for killing Arei is the fact he is scared of death, and that if he didn’t kill someone, then he would be killed. His reason for targeting Arei was simply coincidence, his original target was Eden but upon learning of Arei’s desire to change, decided to exploit that to target her. Ace also demonstrates a level of intelligence we haven’t seen from him before given that he was able to memorise how Nico tried to kill him, replicate that method, overpower Arei with a method unique to him and since everyone thinks Ace is dumb, he was able to pull the wool over their eyes and he could have damn well gotten away with it, especially with David’s stunt making so many convinced he was the one who killed Arei. Goes to show that people are not as stupid as you think. He gets chewed out big time by Teruko who calls him a coward, his motive is dumb and that Arei didn’t deserve to die because of that. However, even when facing death there is still a chance for character development and that comes when Levi eats a rain of bullets. Not only does this change Ace’s opinion on Levi considering he hated his guts before, but he gives Arturo a well-deserved callout who claims he doesn’t know how to treat Levi’s wounds because of his mix-maxed medical skills, but Ace calls him a coward saying as a surgeon he should know the basics and apply that skill to save Levi’s life or at least keep him alive as he gets executed. And yes, despite being as scared as possible for his death, he accepts it as it’s the only way to save Levi as the lift doors won’t open until he is executed.
Onto Ace’s execution I was pleasantly surprised as I have seen somewhere on YouTube an Ultimate Jockey Execution where the horses are used to tear the victim up, and I would have complained MASSIVELY if Ace went down a similar route. But no, the execution is more tailored to Ace’s fear of death by him escaping horror scenario after horror scenario, no wonder Veronika was orgasming over it, until when facing an execution squad, they shoot confetti and Ace suffers a heart attack and dies from fear. This is actually a real way people can die as during the 1970s, there was a string of cases where Hmong refugees would die from heart attacks in their sleep despite being healthy and middle-aged. Doctors at the time concluded that they were suffering nightmares so bad it would cause heart attacks and kill them in their sleep, and if this sounds familiar to you, it should as it was one of the inspirations behind A Nightmare on Elm Street. There’s a reason you shouldn’t scare someone with heart problems and while Ace might not have any heart issues, he has been suffering a lot of stress which could have made his heart rate dodgy and then the execution delivered.
These themes are extremely heavy hitting and I’m glad Despair Time is covering them. I could be wrong about them but that’s my theory on what they are.
Murderer Among Us
And finally, my last big positive about Despair Time’s Chapter 2 is the fact we not only get an attempted murder, with the plot twist the would-be victim would later become the culprit but the fact that this attempt didn’t succeed means the would-be murderer walks among the cast still and they have to deal with the consequences.
I have wanted this since Killing Harmony when Monokuma offered the tantalising prospect that if there are two blackeneds, only the first murder counts. So, when Korekiyo confesses to killing Tenko, the cast cannot vote for him because if he didn’t kill Angie, they would have got it wrong. I REALLY wanted it to be that Tenko was Angie’s killer, my logic being that Angie invited Tenko to her Talent Lab for a chat which got into a heated debate about how Angie was brainwashing Himiko and Tenko, who is quite hot-headed and doesn’t always think straight, accidently killed Angie in the heat of the moment. She would then either cover up her crime or someone else like the Mastermind would make the locked room mystery which the cast discovered and when Kiyo announces he is gonna do a séance, Tenko grows worried as if the séance is a success, Angie would reveal the culprit so Tenko offered to become the vessel which led to her death. You could also argue that maybe she sensed Korekiyo was up to something and did it to protect Himiko. Either way that would make for an interesting Chapter 4 because tensions between Korekiyo and Himiko would be high, but of course Kodaka doesn’t do anything with that and as a result we end up with 4 deaths, and 2 ruined chapters.
No other fanganronpa tried anything like this as they were all not willing to commit so I thank Despair Time wholeheartedly for actually having the balls to do so. As Nico, being pushed to their limit by Ace’s tormenting of them, which is very similar to how they are ostracised for being non-binary, meant they tried to commit murder by hanging Ace on the fans, but they not only miscalculated the strength of the fans but Ace woke up from being knocked unconscious and struggled awake. Before Nico could try again, Teruko and Eden showed up, foiling any would be attempt. Not only did Nico try to commit murder, but they betrayed the trust of both Hu who was trying to protect them but also Rose as Nico stole Hu’s wire and Rose’s turpentine to use for their murder scheme. What’s interesting is they didn’t apologise because they not only were not sorry for trying to kill Ace but know an apology won’t cut it. J gave Nico a very harsh verdict that even though their attempt was foiled, the point is they still tried to commit murder and was willing to give up the lives of everyone here for their own, and betrayed the trust of those who reached out to them. Hu hasn’t had a very good time this chapter because two of her closest friends; David and Nico, turned out to be using her for their own schemes, and we see the consequences of her mother hen nature. I feel a major theme for Chapter 3 is gonna be forgiveness as both Nico and David have burnt a lot of bridges this chapter and the fact they still live, means they need to somehow get back into the good graces of the group. How they do this I don’t know; David probably would be fine being a pariah but I’m not sure if Nico is wanting to make amends. They might, but they might also think they went too far. I do hope that Nico tries, especially after they have seen that even people like Levi and Ace were willing to act selflessly. And who knows, maybe David might try but I think it would be a ruse, which will still work because this cast isn’t the brightest.
Does this mean Nico would be a survivor? I don’t know as I do believe between David and Nico, one will be a survivor and the other will die, probably as a victim but who I cannot tell as Chapter 3 would probably expand upon these two a bit more. Regardless I’m glad this is being touched upon and I for one am looking forward to see where it takes Nico.
And that’s all the positives I have to say about Chapter 2. Teruko had a good character arc, I like how we know the main themes, we know who presumably the partners and rival characters are, we have an attempted murderer walking among the cast, quite a few characters like Levi, Arei and Ace got moments to shine and the execution was well done. But it cannot be all sunshine and rainbows. As much as there is good, there is also bad so when we come back next time, I’m gonna talk about what didn’t go well for Chapter 2 and what DT Dev could do to improve things.
Until then, see ya! -Review Anon
#review anon talks#danganronpa#a student out of time#drdt#danganronpa despair time#danganronpa despair time spoilers#super danganronpa another 2 spoilers#don't ask me when the next parts are coming out#it will be for a long time#as i want to focus on my other projects first#and this is the easiest bit to talk about#the other two won't be so
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Today I've seen an absolutely shit take about Gundham on Twitter, with someone saying that Gundham tried to save his own ass when he killed Nekomaru in Chapter 4 just because he manipulated the crime scene to not be caught immediately, and make the others fight him (Like he fought against Nekomaru) to survive (Something that can be explained by the fact that he follows the "rules of nature" instead of the "rules of men", considering his love towards animals)
Your first mistake is looking for takes on Twitter since nothing good ever comes out of that hellhole of a site.
And yeah its pretty obvious the reason Gundham did some element of cover ups is firstly because due to him following the rules of nature, the survivors had to fight against him and when they get all the clues, he then concedes. And secondly if Gundham just fessed up he did it to save everyone, it would make for a extremely boring Class Trial.
People need to understand that Danganronpa is still a video game at the end of the day and there needs to be some element of mystery to how the culprit did the case. Something that might make sense from a story perspective might not from a gameplay perspective.
#review anon talks#danganronpa#dr#super danganronpa 2 goodbye despair#sdr2#like seriously there is a reason nobody says i did it#because it would be boring#plus at that point it more or less means you are gonna die
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Thoughts on Kokichi Ouma?
Oh boy. Kokichi.
He's a complicated mess as if you recall my tier list he's quite low down.
Yet characters of a similar archetype to him are way higher so what gives? Does he rub me the wrong way?
I'll explain Kokichi's...unusual tier placement soon but for now let's talk the easy stuff which is his character in the game.
When Kokichi was first revealed and everyone was fawning over him I wanted this guy to be a bastard. An complete and utter bastard that does something truly henious that nobody expect the kinnies will forgive him for.
So did I get what I want? Design wise he definitely looks insane as no normal person would wear a straightjacket. This has let to the fun theories he was an escaped mental asylum patient. And when the V3 fake spoilers were running around, fun times, they said he was part of a despair cult. Its certainly a unique look.
He's an absolute blast personality wise as he says the most outragious stuff and often riles the other characters. Saying Kiibo has a dick? Speedrunning Maki trying to kill him? And him messing with Shuichi?
The lying is something that you do need to read the lines between. Its not pathological lying as Kokichi would lie even when in situations its better for him to tell the truth, so its more like compulsive lying.
All of these are so much fun to watch and Derek Stephen Prince was a fanasatic VA as I could really hear the Digimon Emperor from his voice when doing Kokichi, and he delivers the lines and his vocal changes as Kokichi has one of the most dynamic vocal ranges. I was amazed he didn't have a second VA because some characters like Junko needed multiple VAs due to how wild the character was.
His actions are interesting to unpack because while he is a shit-stirrier like most rival characters, unlike say Byakuya and Nagito who are out for themselves, Kokichi has everyone's interests in mind but due to the nature of the Killing Game, he decided to play the villain someone for everyone to band against.
Problem is; this worked a little too well as everyone hated him and then after Chapter 4 which despite his bombastic display, he was definitely affected by, he decided to create a unsolvable murder case. Which got solved because gameplay.
Many more qualified people have done more in-depth analysis on why Kokichi is such a interesting character. In fact if it wasn't for the real reason he's so low, he would be around B/A tier.
So why is he so low? Well its not nothing to do with what Kokichi does in the games...but more of what he did to me. Putting this under the cut because its a very bonkers reason and I understand if you think this is a stupid reason and that is the reason why he isn't bottom tier.
For starters its got nothing to do with his lying. I've like liar characters like Nikei and David in the past so again the archetype isn't the reason. Its also got nothing to do with the fact he kills Miu and Gonta. I never liked Miu and yes Gonta dying is sad but its a Killing Game.
Its also got nothing to do with the fact he killed Kaito as yes the two bash heads a lot but its more to do with the secondary theme of emotions vs. logic rather then Kaito hates lying little shits.
And yes I did see thoses terrible YouTube videos which claims Kokichi is poorly written. That Youtuber is a terrible elitist analyst who clearly hates Kokichi as a character and is using smokescreens and the delusion they are more educated to persuade you otherwise. Its up there with the more terrible Game Theories.
Finally the Love Hotel scene is more on the tame side and its the sole reason why everyone and their mother makes Kokichi Joker whenever one does a Persona/Danganronpa crossover.
So if its got nothing to do with that then what gives? Why do I not like Kokichi? Is it to do with something personal?
Yes. Yes it is because during the entire year of 2017, I had to deal with a non-stop stream of lucid nightmares where Kokichi Ouma was a psychopathic yandere towards me. The entire thing was like a living A Nightmare on Elm Street and I still wonder to this day how tf it even happened in the first place. The dreams are like what I described them as; Kokichi was in love with me and wasn't gonna take no for a answer.
I'm normally lucid in my dreams so at first I just tried waking up early, but to my horror I would later learn that Kokichi himself was fully aware he was in my mind and every time I end a session prematurely while he couldn't obviously stop me, he could punish me next time I go to sleep since you know humans need sleep, and would use every dream mechanic you could think of to trap me.
These dreams completely fucked up my sleep schedule as I would often get 4-5 hour sleeps because of them, and while normally when I wake up in the night I would go back to sleep, to do that would mean more Kokichi and more horrors so I would often stay up at like 4am.
I studied as much dream theory as I could and tried all the tactics I could find to make these stop, but nothing worked and Kokichi would often mock me when I did so.
Clearly I don't suffer them now so how did I get rid of him in the end? Well I won't disclose how I did it but let's just say look at how Bill Cipher in Gravity Falls was killed and that should give you a good idea how I managed to get rid of that Kokichi in the end. Expect of course I didn't lose my memories.
Don't ask me how this happened, because I don't know either. As while I do have wild dreams I had nothing on that magnitude before or since then. The dreams had two lasting effects on me. Firstly, its made me scared of Doki Doki Literature Club as while Monika is a million times tamer then my psychotic Kokichi was, its still too close to home for me.
And the second is that its given me a bit of a sour opinion on Kokichi. Not because the character sucks but because its very hard to look at a character when something wearing their face and behaving almost exactly like them, was your personal Freddy Krueger for a little over a year.
TL;DR Kokichi is a good character and under normal circumstances I would have loved him but my brain decided that it was illegal and gave me lucid nightmares about him for over a year and that's made me hard to like him.
#review anon talks#danganronpa#dr#danganronpa killing harmony#v3#kokichi ouma#a lot of you are gonna laugh at this#and i won't blame you#its why kokichi is low#but not bottom#as i acknowledge the character is good#but tell me#if a danganronpa character did what kokichi did to me#for around a year#would you still like that character#i think not
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//My Ace Attorney BS sense is tinkling here.
//Anyone with a win record like that *must* be doing something dodgy.
//We all heard of lawyers and prosecutors like this in those games with perfect win records.
//And we know how those go.
#review anon talks#project's eden garden#i'm not sus of wolfgang or anything#what makes you think i don't trust him?#its not like he reminds of other people in fangans#or knowledge of ace attorney#also marabucks are easy to obtain#at least i see it this way#if bubbles and ta struggle i will actually laugh
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I've been on a roll with drawing big cats lately so i got the urge to draw this sludge covered bastard because i thought its design was really sick with the stripes being the void juice itself and the gaping mouth surrounded by sharp teeth.
Hope you like it dude :]
//Holy Moley this looks so sick!
//And its kinda of a weird roundabout way since you designed the Sawa sprites, and since the Tiger Monster was Sawa's own inner demons, I used your sprites as a reference when drawing this bastard and now you used said drawing to draw this.
//And the way the Void Juice is dripping down its body like the Surgeon Monster's was that's just *chef's kiss* Thank you soooo much for drawing this!
//I was gonna say check out the original Dream Tiger drawings which was my inspriation for this, but I realised that art trend was on Twitter...and that website is banned in Brazil because the manchild in charge of the site threw a typical temper tantrum for being held accountable for his actions.
//Probably the one thing I do enjoy the most with the Void Juice plotline and when it does come back is coming up with the designs of the Void Juice Monsters because believe me I have lots of similarly beautiful and messed up designs waiting to be realised.
//And this bastard was so tough to take down as well since not only did it have the mist up which required a lot of beating from Akane and eventually Aliza but even when Aliza and Mahiru were hitting it with light it still managed to almost kill Aqua.
//The only plus side is this monstrosity exposed that Sawa has some deep seated issues that needs helping and therapy with and she's getting it!
#review anon talks#fanart#laugtherhyena#tiger monster#voidship#seriously such a awesome design#thank you so much for showing this carol#i love it#as it really shows how messed up these void juice monsters are#and there will be more on the way#which are as equally gorgeous and nightmare fuel#since well i have had lots of practise to come up with these designs#a lot of practise
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Because of the emotional trauma everyone had gone through during Tetro Danganronpa Pink Chapter 2’s Class Trial, I thought I would post a picture of my cat to cheer everyone up.
Especially since Dizzy here has a habit of jumping on me while I’m watching Bubbles’s streams. So in a way she watches the streams with me as well.
#review anon talks#dizzy the cat#pet#cat#tetro danganronpa pink#bubble’s streams#seriously that was a rollercoaster of emotions#ta was more distressed then the culprit was#she literally had a breakdown
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Hey can we hear your thoughts on Eloise?
//Y-you want to? Erm…okay.
//Thoughts below the cut.
//Eloise was the first Project Eden’s Garden I heard about and we know why, Survivor introduced her as the housekeeper of Nagito’s old mansion and was there to greet Class 77-B when Nagito decided to give his old class that mansion as a apology for blowing up Jabberwock Island. But of course she wasn’t a housekeeper in Project Eden’s Garden, she is the Ultimate Fencer.
//Personality wise she’s timid and very passive which seems shocking seeing she does a combat sport, but fencing is a very distance based sport and as we soon discover, in fencing forfeiting a match counts as a win for you so Eloise climbed the ranks because people were too scared to challenge her which gave her a bit of a self-esteem issue as doesn’t even know if her skills are good enough to be a Ultimate.
//Unsurprisingly she butts heads with Grace who like her is another sports based female but while Eloise got handed a lot of her wins, Grace had to fight tooth and nail to get to where she was, especially as Golf is a very male dominated sport, so naturally the two don’t get on. It’s a very Hiyoko-Mikan relationship they have, and one I hope doesn’t end that way.
//I also see she gets on very well with Desmond as the two spend a LOT of time together, could be since they are both characters used to distance combat, but Desmond is a very down to earth and chill guy so maybe he’s the kind of person Eloise needs in her life. And while Eloise is a very timid person, when a situation gets serious, she can be brave as she was the first to accuse someone of murder in the Chapter 1 Class Trial as she found Grace keeping everyone out of Wolfgang’s dorm to be very sus.
//Now, a lot of people are nervous around Eloise as they see some Kanade-like traits in her, someone very weak and passive normally but does a complete flip in serious situations and becomes competent, and worries she’s gonna be a psycho in Chapter 3. I call BS on that one since firstly, Kanade does a complete 180 in the Class Trials which raises alarm bells, but while Eloise has a bit more of a backbone then you think, she still is a very quiet and meek person. The other reason is while I press X to doubt on this one, the team behind PEG have gone on record to say they are gonna to avert most common Danganronpa tropes.
//The psycho Chapter 3 double killer is one I can think they won’t go down seeing how deeply unpopular it is. Does this mean Eloise isn’t gonna be a killer? Too early to call but if she does kill, it won’t be because she’s coo-coo in the head and wants to bone Desmond or something.
//But I like Eloise, she’s a sweet character and I will not be happy if she really is a Kanade-lite, to the point I have a venting sketch lined up if THAT ever becomes a thing.
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//Alright time to talk about Project Eden's Garden Chapter 1 Class Trial. Spoilers as always are under the cut.
//I really hope flamethrower isn't the new poison in this game.
//Anyway so mystery wise I say this chapter was quite well done, since while I was able to figure out a lot of what happened, the whole pully system that was used with the car battery and extension cord completely took me off guard. And yeah Lithium is no joke, it causes massive explosions when mixed with water I've seen videos on Youtube the explosions get quite intense.
//Grace is totally like Miu in which while she doesn't say much and its often wrong, she is often on the money who the culprit is. Of course her reasons for suspecting Damon and Eva was because she didn't like them, to the point you cannot do her FTEs but maybe she will soften up by Chapter 2? Who knows.
//Everyone also contributes quite a bit to the Class Trial, as even Cassidy who I argue is one of the more stupider character, can have some insight due to hosting the Not-Melee Tournament and having good enough memory to recall past conversations.
//When it comes to Pathos statements I got worried I wouldn't know when to use them but the game makes it quite clear when you need to use either logic or emotions as you only need to use empathy bullets once and its very obvious when that happens.
//As for the new minigames, as I predicted we have 2 new minigames and they are oldies. The first is rebuttal showdown which is as typical as they come. And since Weoena was the first to object that means she is the Chapter 2 Victim/j
//Ulysee's Rebuttal quote cracks me up because when he butts in he says "Um AcTuAlLy" like he's in some internet argument or something. Then again seeing how he requoted the repeating history quote to be that if you don't repeat history, you look stupid online, means while Ulysee loves his books and all, he seems to be engaging in quite a few online discourse debates.
//And then there is this game's version of Argument Altercation which...yeah...we will get to that later.
//Of course now we get into the meat of the trial and let's go with the first shocking twist; the fact Diana was there when Wolfgang died and he attacked her. And that pretty much everything I theorised was right there.
//My man over here acting like he inhaled a bunch of Void Juice.
//So as a bit of context; Diana was given a letter to what she thought was from Wolfgang but in reality was by the culprit and came down to the Boiler Room since she thought Wolfgang had her blackmail, as he did a David and requested everyone to talk with the people they have the blackmail on. But when she saw Wolfgang he was behaving..odd...and eventually pulled out a knife to attack her, and was completely oblivious to what Diana was saying.
//It's later revealed that Wolfgang was injected with a hallogenic and he attacked Diana because he didn't actually see her but rather someone or something else that causes such a reaction. So who was it that Wolfgang saw instead of Diana? My best bet is that Wolfgang was seeing his father.
//Damon got Wolfgang's blackmail which at first seemed like he was married but aside from the different eye colour the date was in 2001, which while we don't know what year Project's Eden Garden is set in, appernetely 2001 was before Wolfgang was even born, so this must be a picture of his parents getting married. We also get a cryptic hint saying "Like Father, Like Son. Behind a Sheepish body lurks a Wolfish Mind." Which translated means that Wolfgang takes a lot after his dad, where he might appear kind and gentle on the surface but in reality he's much more brutish and aggressive. A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing if you will.
//But what Wolfgang was muttering, makes me reconsider that. As the fact he seems want to kill his "father" means that Wolfgang must have a terrible realtionship with him, and resent him for something. We also know he's a bit of a momma's boy and there he's his attiude towards women. Wolfgang always tried to act like a gentlemen to the ladies in the Killing Game, encoruging Eloise to come out of her shell, being supportive of both Grace and Diana, and appernetely Grace enjoyed his company so much that when the bunk buddy system was suggested, it was Wolfgang and Ulysee who switched their parnters with Weonoa and Grace.
//Its obvious why Weonoa and Grace wanted to swap roommates as both of them cannot stand each other and it was like a house on fire with them, but Wolfgang and Ulysee's reasons are unknown, as the latter refuses to elaborate. Maybe Wolfgang isn't very friendly with men, and Ulysee had to witness that and wanted out. Its not Yuri levels of hate as Wolfgang can be civilised around other men, but I do believe he is biased towards women. The only woman he doesn't like is Eva and that's because she spoke out against him by saying he's too naive.
//During the Prologue Class Trial Wolfgang got very heated during it and claimed that the worst thing a man can do is murder a woman, and he says this with a huge degree of intensity. So Wolfie has a gender bias, not the first for this franchise, but then what does he mean by the fact he could never be like his father?
//Its here that I decide to pull out a Review Anon classic dark theory and claim that Wolfgang's father murdered his mother and Wolfgang saw this happen.
//Yeah that's a bit of a yikes but there is quite a bit of evidence backing this up. It would explain why Wolfgang became so focused on law, because he wanted his father to pay. Maybe Wolfgang's dad was also a ace attorney, and thought Wolfgang was following in his footsteps. But while Wolfgang's father was a terrible person who was probably very abusive to women, Wolfgang by contrast probably tried to act like a shitty person around him, but in reality he didn't have the heart to do it.
//But then there's the fact Wolfgang is considered to have a Wolfish mind. This means you isolate and dominate over others to remain on top. We see traces of this with how Wolfgang treated Damon and Eva when they opposed him. Not only did he not like the way they spoke to him, but he encouraged the others not assiocate with them, this had various degrees but I don't think Wolfgang possessed actual malice towards Damon and Eva, he was more annoyed by them opposing his viewpoints.
//We also know Wolfgang took a knife to the meeting because while he's an optimist he's also not a moron and knows meeting someone in the boiler room sounds like a good way to kill someone. He'll give someone the benefit of the doubt, but it pays to be prepared.
//I do wonder what would have happened if Wolfgang and Damon did meet up due to Damon having Wolfgang's blackmail. Given how horrid his family situation seems to be, I imagine Wolfgang wouldn't react well to it, ESPECIALLY in front of someone he flat-out doesn't like.
//Overall, I do think Wolfgang isn't as sainty as he likes to paint himself as, but he's also not as bad as the likes of Tsurugi, Nikei, David and Ryohei have swooped. If anything, Wolfgang is more morally grey, which makes him more human. And let's face if his assault on Diana didn't result in him dying via Gender Balancing electrocition, and he regained his senses, he would be deeply horrified and apologetic to Diana for how he treated her.
//Speaking of Diana man do I feel bad for this poor girl. I always liked Diana as she's such a sunshine of optismism, which is why I REALLY hope she's not secretly the Mastermind, and while everyone and their mother didn't want to assiocate with Damon and Eva, she tried to reach out to them, as while Wolfgang might not like it, she believes everyone deserves a second chance. She acted nice to Damon and said she be a shoulder for him to cry on, and even offered to be Eva's roommate because she felt she needed a friend and was so lonely. Unfortunately for Diana, she was a farmer and both Damon and Eva were snakes as Eva used her for her murder scheme to be the first fall person and when after the Class Trial Diana vows she will take up the mantle Wolfgang left behind and try to help everyone, not only did her rousing speech fall on deaf ears as everyone was too apathetic to hear her...but Damon just got pissed off hearing her.
//No sugercoating it, Diana is gonna be the rival character in this game but for a different reason as our protagonist is a very cynical character whilst Diana is a very optismitic person. I would be very interested how Bubbles reacts to this since this is like Teruko's and Eden's dynamic but on a much more hostile setting. Plus she has a reptile motif like Damon as she's a chameleon while he's a snake. We don't get many female rival characters, if any so this is a very refreshing change of pace as if Damon is gonna be a Villian Protagonist, then Diana is the Hero Antagonist. At least this means she'll live until Chapter 5.
//Now time to talk about the culprit of this case, Eva Tsunaka. And remember how I said she was gonna do shit in this chapter since I never in a million years trust characters you first meet and befriend? Well Eva was vindication on the absolute extreme as not only was she the culprit of this case but while this isn't the first time our first "friend" turned out to kill someone, Eva is a FARCRY from Kaede who killed for sympthatic reasons and was doing the Class Trial to try and expose the Mastermind. Meanwhile Eva is actually a very selfish person who only cared about herself and has a very low opinion on the others.
//She also self-sabotaged her own group standing as its one thing to lie about your talent if its a dangerous one but Mathetic is a very harmless talent so claiming she's the Ultimate Liar just made her look worse. Yes some people mocked her talent, but they are the jerks. A lot of Eva's woes in the Killing Game was self-inflicted and she has only herself to blame for it. Its also something I noticed but Eva sounds a lot like Eve who is the first woman to commit sin, so there is a biblical reference to her being the first culprit. And man when Eva starts breaking down she gets UGLY.
//She throws Damon under the bus, which while I was expecting her to do that, its still brutal the way she does it, but fortunately nobody is buying it since Eva's relations are down the toilet. And this breakdown of hers as she's unravelled as the culprit is brutal as like most Chapter 1 culprits, Eva doesn't back down easily, and this leads to *sigh* the one minigame I was dreading to talk about. Argument Altercation.
//Its tradition for this minigame to be a thing when breaking the culprits down and normally its a rhythm heaven type game where you have to time your hits as you break down the culprit's healh before telling them why they are wrong. Super Danganronpa Another 2 also does this though my computer decided to act up, but Project Eden's Garden...goes a completely different direction and I will say this;
//I
//FUCKING
//HATE
//THIS
//MINIGAME
//This is the single WORST minigame within any of the Danganronpa titles I ever had the misfortune of playing. This makes Goodbye Despair's Improved Hangman's Gambit look like Scrum Debate by comparison.
//So what is so bad about this minigame? Well for starters its a Bullet Hell where you not only have to dodge Eva's attacks but also shoot her. Sounds simple right? Well unforunately, Eva seems to be a avid Touhou player since she BEHAVES like a Touhou boss, with swarms of bullets that guarantee that if you AREN'T a bullet hell expert you will die a lot, and you have SO few oppertunties to attack.
//The screen flips during the second phase and while it doesn't last long, its enough to get you hit a bunch and its also when Eva pulls out her Touhou style attacks where swarms of bullets fire your way.
//But if you thought things couldn't get worse...oh boy there's the third phase which doesn't always happen but if you get THIS screen.
//Then you are FUCKED as Eva will send crow shaped homing attacks at you which are borderline IMPOSSIBLE to dodge and if you haven't got a lot of health left you WILL die, even WITH the slowdown speed.
//And when you get to the finishing blow, there's barely any time to do the word sorting which gets you back to the final phase where you will 100% die and go back to the beginning.
//This no joke took me TWO FUCKING HOURS to do, now granted some of it was the fact I couldn't use the slowdown speed. But what worries me is that this is CHAPTER 1.
//The other culprits are gonna be like this and they are gonna be even harder so what is Chapte 5's culprit gonna be like this?
//But once I'm done I was so emotionally bent that I wanted Eva to die slowly and painfully. I don't know how much people hate this game and if its hated enough the difficulty might get toned down as a result.
//When Eva explained why she was the way she was...one on hand its the same old "Ultimate system sucks arse" we all heard but at the same time, people like Diana and Damon DID try to reach out to her and her lying about her talent was a self-inflicted wounded, so while sympthatic in the end most of what Eva did was things she brought upon herself.
//And then comes the execution and as per Danganronpa fashion its a brutal one which makes Eva really suffer for what she's been through before she literally burns in hell. I mean given how biblical this game is, I wouldn't be surprised by that.
//So my overall veridict is Project Eden's Garden is a good game which is worth checking out but I do NOT like Argument Alteraction.
//Now comes the golden question. Since I played Chapter 1, and sprites for Project Eden's Garden characters are available, plus Creeper was able to use Eloise in Survivor, will Project Eden's Garden Characters be on the Voidship?
//Well with Chapter 1 sprites not available yet, I want to wait until they are. But when they do become available I won't add the characters straight away, I did so for Despair Time once Timeline Anon gave me the greenlight since it was a option I was considering.
//But I feel Project Eden's Garden characters would not only clog up the Christmas Arc a bit, but also since I know certain people haven't played the game yet, I don't want to go into spoilers. For example Wolfgang and Diana would react quite badly to the news of Void Juice given their past experiences with drugs that cause you to face inner demons.
//However I'm not ruling them out since I have plans, you just need to wait.
//And that's all, don't know when Chapter 2 will come out but probably talk about it next when Bubbles and TA stream it.
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So... Okazaki Hanano- or rather, Yume Yonekura thoughts?
//So normally I don't talk about people I already covered.
//However to say a lot has been discovered about Okazaki in Chapter 3 is a bit of a underestatement so she's getting a bit of a update.
//As I already talked about her general personality and her Chapter 1 +2 actions this will exclusively cover her Chapter 3 actions.
//Under the cut we go:
//When we start off Chapter 3, Okazaki is on full blast from Watari since due to her immoral actions in Chapter 2's investigation, people are getting nervous of her. She seems apologetic to Watari and vows she will try to be better...
//Of course we all know that was a fucking lie, since Okazaki doubles down on her tormenting Wada. At first we didn't know why she was doing this other then the lulz but now knowing Okazaki's true nature, I felt she did this to get a rise out of Tsuno given how protective she is over Wada. Heck her savagely beating up Wada was to try and get him away from the 3D printer as she needed to use it for her plans.
//It was foreshadowed about her true nature from how she interacts with Tsuno and people complaining their stuff was going missing as remember when Hirokai was on Harada's case for his drugs being missing? Well...turns out Okazaki has been doing a bit of borrowing without permission, for no other reason then because she can.
//I got some backlash from the Tetro Pink community for calling Okazaki a sociopath due to ableist reasons, now I will like to retract my sociopathic statement on her since a key takeaway from them is that they have no empathy, that caring for others is something they don't instinctively have and have to pretend to care but most of the time they...struggle. Levi from Despair Time is a very good example from this as I do believe he is a sociopath but he behaves more like a realistic portayal of one, someone who tries to blend in and do good but they trying to work out a manual that others just know by instinct. Meanwhile Okazaki does actually care for Watari. Its in a very twisted manner, but she does possess some empathy, so she doesn't fit and Okazaki's twisted behaviour does have another explanation for it.
//I said from the start that she was the most likely person to double murder and I was completely right. I'm just so glad that my mistrust in Okazaki was well placed as well obviously I didn't expect the supervillain twist but let's face it, I don't think anyone did. But her supervillian persona I think has a sad origin behind it as we know she ran away from home and went off to live by herself and after finding out who their mother is, certain behaviour traits make more sense. Most supervillains especially the over the top hammy ones, often have neglectful childhoods and go full ham because they want some level of attention from others as they hate being ignored. This is Okazaki in steroids as she hates the fact that Tsuno, her self-proclaimed arch-nemesis has no idea who she is, and it pisses her off. Okazaki even has a evil laugh "Konkonkonkon" to really hammer it home.
//What I love is when she's going through her breakdown, nobody was taking any manners of this, calling out Okazaki on her stupid reasons to kill, and Wada was almost gonna punch Okazaki but Ojima stopped him, but Ken was ultimately the one who slapped Okazaki, and he berates her for all the horrible shit she's done. Okazaki also manages to be the SECOND person to be the culprit and do a Closing Argument about their own crimes, I said second because sorry Bubbles but Akane Taira did this in Chapter 5 of Danganronpa Another so Okazaki wasn't the first.
//Their execution was as brutal as always as well...not only has Game of Thrones shown how horrible drinking molten gold is, but I believe it was a form of execution in some Mesoamercian Empires and if it was used as that, it shows how horrible it is. And then we get the bombshell that Okazaki's real name is Yume Yonekura, and they are the child of the Mastermind behind the Killing Game.
//I'm not using their real name because its just their birth name, and they have long since discarded it, similar to Mukuro in ASOOT, its not her birth name but we still call her Mukuro. Plus its a horrid reminder that their own mother was the one who killed them for the sake of their experiment. But at the same time, the detached personality of Okazaki, how she doesn't see any issues using immoral acts to get results and acting surprised when people call this out? Seems like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree~
//The breakdown is gonna stick in your head for a while but the question is, will it be a good one or a bad one, only time will tell.
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Talk about Wada?
//When I got these asks, Chapter 3 was still going on, and I wanted to wait until I watched all of Chapter 3 before doing them.
//So the very last of the Tetro Pink characters I can share my thoughts on and its the one who suffered the most not only in life and Tetro Pink, but also Chapter 3.
//Thoughts are below the cut:
//Wada, Wada, Wada, if there was a prize for "Danganronpa Character who has had the most shit hand in life" Wada would be a prime contender for that prize, as dear god has this guy suffered.
//There's a playable EXE game if you go through a bit of a ARG in Tetro Pink, which shows what Wada's life was like as his donors often left him in a room to rot and barely gave him any food to eat, which means even when he was taken into social services, he has developed bulimia; an eating disorder where you don't eat much for a long time but horde food and then you binge eat and get very sick after a while. He's also serevely malnorished and has a very timid personality.
//He has managed to find work as a voice actor but by his own account he can only do impressions more then anything and he was a regularly viewer of Osono's streams. As such he was already in a bad shape and then of course the Killing Game made things worse.
//The sadistic motives of Tetro Pink have harmed Wada the most as his ill body cannot cope with the strainious physically demanding motives, Chapter 1's motive he ended up falling asleep and everyone got their rewards swapped around as a result which resulted in a few characters getting mad at him, he almost died in Chapter 2 due to the adereline gas making it hard for him to breathe, forcing Monomoko to go behind the backs of the scientists to make sure Wada didn't die and then since he was so thin, Chapter 3's reduction of temperature meant he really suffered the most. It almost makes you want him to survive in spite of all these motives.
//And that's not even getting into the emotional side as in Chapter 1, he forms a friendship with Osono and Tsuno as both are very concerned about his wellbeing and want him to be alright, this led to Osono's death as she was cooking food for Wada when Sasaki snapped. In addition, we know Osono won Immunity but she gave it to Wada instead which wasn't revealed until Chapter 3 when Hiroaki in one of his self-destructive rants, screamed it at Wada. He doesn't take Osono's death well, but he eventually develops a coping system when he talks to Osono in her room about how things are going; a system that as other students lose their friends in the Killing Game, adopt as well.
//Tsuno naturally is very protective of him as she picks up right away nobody has been treating Wada right and vows to become his new big sister and look after him, which looked like a death flag to me that could only go one way, and I hate being proven right.
//That leads me to Chapter 3 and dear god is this the Wada misery chapter. First Okazaki decides to bully Wada for no apparent reason as she triggers his claustrophobia for the lulz and when he tells Tsuno about it and everyone screams at Okazaki for it, she then ups the antic by beating him to near death, and threatening more violence if he squeals to anyone. Then he has to deal with Hiroaki telling him Osono's death was indirectly caused by him, and finally as the coup de grace, when Wada and Tsuno were investigating the Woodshop, Tsuno opens the door, triggering the spiked plate trap and killing her instantly and in front of him.
//Naturally Wada has hit his limit here as after completely shutting down for obvious reasons, he actually decides to fight back against Okazaki as he actually stabs her during the investigation and then when he told Mai about it who then revealed it to everyone in the Class Trail, everyone was appealed and when Okazaki's true nature was revealed, Wada just completely loses it and its the most angry we have seen him in a long time as he says some very unpleasent things to the wannabe supervillian.
//As the chapter ends though, it seems Wada is gonna be a stronger person since come Chapter 4, he's gonna have a new design made by Hiroaki and his hair is gonna be cut so he will have a new look going into Chapter 4, as he really has gone the Himiko treatment. Now Himiko is a survivor so in theory, Wada too would be a survivor.
//But this is Danganronpa and never assume everything especially with the philosophy of the developers that they like to kill characters mid-character development. But the point is, Wada has had a lot of suffering and I hope he manages to survive this, he has to for not only Osono but also Tsuno as well.
//And with that we have finished all the Tetro Pink characters I want to talk about since I'm not touching Staffside with a ten-foot pole at least pubically given how the fandom has reacted to me doing so.
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//So....Tetro Pink Chapter 3's Deadly Life Part 2 and the Class Trial.
//It had a...lot going on with it.
//Thoughts are below the cut:
//When we last left off, Tsuno gently opepned the door and got skewed for her efforts, right in front of Wada for extra emotional damage. Netherless to say he takes this well, as the others arrive and wonder what tf is going when Mai points out that suddenly, investigation has become very unsafe because if there was one trap, that could mean mulitiple traps.
//The trap itself was a spiked plate which was on a pully system triggered by simply opening the door and there was literally no way that anyone could have predicted, Tsuno was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
//Wada is quite catatonic for obvious reasons and when Okazaki shows up, he literally loses his temper and actually stabs her. Given all the shit she's done to him in the Chapter, this felt very justified especially when Wada confesses to Mai when she asks about what Okazaki has been doing to him, and she's undestandably pissed at Okazaki because she deserved to get stabbed.
//Trail time and the obvious question is asked; what if there is mulitiple blackeneds? Monomoko answers with saying they are playing by V3 rules and if there is two blackeneds only the first counts, meaning unless the deaths are done by the same person, only Kamimura's death needs to be looked at, Tsuno's death for the most part can be ignored as the blackened for her will gain nothing. Unless of course its the same person.
//Wada is immediately accused as the killer but not only does Mai point out there is a ton of evidence that shows he was being framed but they managed to figure out that the killer doesn't trigger the BDA and since not only did Ken trigger the BDA for Kamimura but also Wada triggered the BDA for Tsuno, neither of them could be the killer. It takes a while to clear Wada which gets annoying because certain people (read: Tamba) get very stuck in on that, but eventually the conversation turns to when Kamimura died, which with all the blood, implies he was killed in the art room, and even though he was taken from his room, not only did the killer steal his key, but they used the 3D Printer to clone said key to get in. They also realised the struggle they found in Kamimura's room was faked by the killer as he was already unconcious when they find a drug which could knock someone out and a ideal place they could lace it, being the special food Mai cooked for Kamimura in the resturant event since he still had some left over and once again proving why parties should never happen in Killing Games.
//There is a lot of emotions during the trial as Yanagi is put on the spot due to his lack of alibi which he confirms eventually he was trying to pick the lock to the locked room as while bashing the door open is a violation of the rules, lock picking might not be and he was trying to do so, but failed miserably. Hirokai was more focused on his petty grudge against Yanagi then solving the case and Ken at mulitiple times, loses his tempers and shouts at everyone to just focus on the evidence and logic and not their grievences against each other. Also Hirokai's failed unliving attempt was exposed by Ojima in order to disclose where the cynanide went.
//Eventually to Bubble's dismay, turns out Tsuno and Kamimura's deaths were done by the same person and as such they realised the culprit had to spend all of yesterday to steal Kamimura's key and clone it via the 3D printer, all of last night to set up the spiked plate trap in the woodshop and finally all of the morning to not only kidnap and kill Kamimura, but also be largely absent from the investigation seeing as they went to the dorms to trash Wada's and Tsuno's rooms. As such it had to been someone who had no alibi for any of those times, didn't matter if they didn't have one for one or two of those time periods but if they were absent and unaccounted for all three, they would be suspecious. And when everyone was saying their alibis, only two people were narrowed down; Tamba and Okazaki.
//Both were physically strong and not only could set up the spiked trap but also overpower Kamimura, but what it came down to was how the culprit moved Kamimura from his dorm to the art room which was a considerable distance without being spotted. Tamba wearing barely anything would have had to use a blanket which would have been easily detected but Okazaki has a coat, and she used said coat to huddle with Watari eariler in the chapter, which we find out said coat was big enough for her to hide inside of it, and Watari is much bigger then Kamimura. She also claimed she knew what everyone was doing but as Ojima pointed out, Okazaki has been hall monitor for a while now so she must have picked up on what everyone's daily routines were and claim she saw them do so. It ain't looking good for Okazaki, especially when Watari demands her to take her coat off, because with the sheer amount of blood Kamimura bleed out, and the fact he wasn't discovered that long after he expired, Okazaki wouldn't have had time to clean herself off before the BDA went off. So Okazaki took her coat off, and Hiroaki immediately threw up since she was coated in blood. Of course she tries to play it off as Wada's stab attempt, but there was too much blood for it be from when she was stabbed and so the jig is up.
//Normally when Chapter 3 culpirts are exposed, they do a complete personality shift and go absolutely psychotic. We seen this happen in the main series, as Celestia's accent breaks down when the gears turn on her, Mikan becomes deranged when sus is on her, Korekiyo goes completely delusional with his "sister" when people start to suspect him, in the Another series Kinji also goes loopy when people figure him out and I don't think we need to go into detail how much Kanade breaks down...it speaks for itself. So...what does Okazaki do? Well...she takes her mask off so we finally see what she looks like...and goes completely full Card Carrying Villian. You see, Okazaki as it turns out, was a self proclaimed phantom thief who robbed and stole from people in her home district, and sees herself as a supervillain. Tsuno comes from her area and Okazaki has a very one sided rivalry with Tsuno as she sees her as her greatest arch-nemesis and wanted nothing to do but one up her and in a Killing Game; that meant killing her. That's right, Tsuno wasn't just a death for the sake of it, she was the intended target all along. As for why she killed Kamimura it was for three reasons. Firstly she wanted to alert people that the killer used tools from the Woodshop, which due to nobody going on there wouldn't have been on the agenda and wanted Tsuno to investigate, bonus points if Wada was there so he could be even more devestated, secondly she knew that Kamimura was one of the more competent people in Class Trials and wanted him out of the way as he could rumble her and thirdy it was to completely break down Ken as he was another one who could have figured her shit out, but if he was too emotionally distraught over the death of his only friend, then she could get away with it.
//While this was happening not only does Okazaki's sprites with her mask off completely take up the screen but also some very cheesy cartoony supervillain music is playing in the background which apprenetly was composed by Tek Soda, Okazaki's VA. To say this was a total tonal mood whiplash was an understandment since EVERYONE in the stream was completely flabbergasted by what they were seeing and we all, including myself, was lost for words. I had for the longest time seen Tetro Pink as a much more grounded universe when compared to other Danganronpa titles where nothing too crazy happens, but Okazaki's true self was a glimpse into what normal Danganronpa is like with the wild personalites and absurdity. Neitherless to say nobody likes this at all as various characters especially Ken, Wada and Watari were completely appalled not only that Okazaki did kill, but she killed for such a stupid reason.
//All three were having a bad time but Watari was probably experiencing the worst of it. With Ken and Wada yes them losing their friends sucked, big time but at the very least they have the memories of their friends and they can move forward in honour of them, but Watari...can't do that. Not only was her best friend in this Killing Game the one who killed them, but she had a side to her she knew nothing about. It would be too easy to say Okazaki never cared for Watari, but as a further knife twist...it turns out she DID care for her, and did genuinely enjoy the times they spent together playing staff, but since Okazaki is so convinced she's the Joker, she saw Watari as a future sidekick to her to help with her latest evil schemes, much to Watari's complete horror.
//So what did I think about the whole thing? Well for one I feel vindicated. I said for a very long time, that Okazaki screamed Chapter 3 killer and that I didn't trust her due to the vibes she gave off. This got me so much hatred from the Tetro Pink community, and the ONLY reason I thought Ojima was because I didn't know if there was one or two killers, and if was mulitiple killers Ojima made sense, but if it was the same killer, then only Okazaki would have done, what she done. So yeah I'm laughing on how much the Tetro Pink Community is breaking down over Okazaki being the Chapter 3 Killer, because I'm like "I told you so." Occam's Razor is a bitch and you need to use it more.
//On her personality shift its...interesting, I'll give you that. The emotions are still raw and I do need time to process them so I cannot give you a accurate summary what I think. This might require a second viewing to see if its a good twist or if its another Kanade; good for shock value but doesn't hold water upon repeat viewings.
//But of course that's not the worst twist with Okazaki, though her execution was brutal af because she got the Viserys treatment. No it comes with when Scientist 01 breaks composure and briefly mentions a name for Okazaki before referring to her as her number, but this name startes with a Y which Okazaki never had. Well in a conversation with Scientist 05, it turns out that Okazaki's real name was Yume Yonekura and is the child of Scientist 01.
//I have been getting SO MUCH hate from how I'm viewing Staffside and chief among them is people who cannot grasp why I have no empathy for anyone on the staff, and think I'm some kind of sociopathic monster because I don't care when *insert scientist name here* is being tortured or shows human compassion, and says I don't have a heart. And then we get this; where Scientist 01 threw her OWN GODDAMN CHILD INTO THE KILLING GAME WITH NO REMORSE!
//Koroko might have abused Mikako serverly and was a horrible mother to her, but she never killed her. Junko might have had backstabbed and killed Mukuro but it was part of her idealogy to feel despair and did hate the fact she killed her own beloved twin sister. Not only did Scientist 01 kill her own child, but she was very unaffected by the whole thing and when Scientist 05 expresses remorse, she more or less implies that if he keeps up with this discussion, his own daughter will be part of the next Killing Game roster.
//Let me make it very clear to you. Its clear you people have a lot more empathy and compassion then myself. I wouldn't go as far as to call myself a sociopath, but I do have a lot lower levels of empathy then the average person, and if I see a organisation committing horrific acts against humanity and Tetro Pink's motives are just pure evil, end of story, I completely shut off my heart and don't give a single monkey's what happens to them beyond them getting the consequences I know they will never get because with Tetro getting a second season, these scientists are gonna completely and utterly get away with everything. I'm reading Staffside for context and understanding the lore more then anything, I'm not looking to emphasis with anyone, because the organisation has more then crossed the moral event horizon.
//And if they do recieve consequences, they are not gonna go back to society, they are gonna be arrested, crimes get exposed, their families completely abandon and disown them ESPECIALLY as this being Japan, their lives are ruined as well, and the fact they are "just following orders" doesn't really hold up in court, it might save them the death penetly, but the public won't have much sympathy for them.
//This is also why when Bubbles called out people for sending hate to Vonbabbit and the team behind Tetro Pink, and said they are unwelcome in his community, I didn't say anything because I knew the second I spoke up there, I would recieve even more hate from people due to my views on Staffside. From now on, I'm completely and utterly banning any talk on Staffside and any asks regarding it will be deleted, since I do not want to think about it anymore. You will also never hear anymore about me talking about Staffside.
//In addition, anyone who also does what they did to Bubbles and uses this as an excuse to send hate to Vonbabbit is also kicked out from here.
//I apologise for the rant-y bit here but I have had to deal with a lot of shit last week due to the Tetro Pink community and I've lost a lot of patience as a result and I just want lay out the groundrules going forward.
//Overall while Tetro Pink's Chapter 3 is certainly one of the better ones, its too early to say if its the best one so far as I still think it has to compete with Trigger Happy Havoc's original Chapter 3.
//I just know Chapter 4 is gonna be horrible big time.
#review anon talks#review anon rants#tetro danganronpa pink#tetro danganronpa spoilers#i apologises for how ranty i got near the end#but i've had to deal with a lot of insufferable fans#and my patience was running thing#especially because my reasons for reading staffside#isn't the same as most other people's#and as such this was always gonna clash#but i don't want to talk about it anymore#trial was fun though#and didn't need a dizzy pic#as it wasn't emotionally draining#it was just absurd more then anything
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You did the investigation? Thoughts and theories?
//As always my theories are below the cut.
//Another cutaway because Tumblr doesn’t like and spoilers ahead so READ ON IN PERIL.
//Wolfgang was 100% attacked with the rolling pin and then he was injected with some kind of drug to his neck. The prick on his neck looks a lot like where a needle would go. It would be easy to get the drop on him as Wolfgang trusted almost everyone so he didn’t really have a guard.
//Having said there, Wolfgang was certainly up to something because he outright lied to Grace about being sick. Especially as Toshiko caught him leaving his room and with Ingrid being her roommate she can back her up. Most likely he was going to the boiler room.
//Ingrid’s headache I think is important because it depends what Wolfgang was drugged with, recall that Jean smelled something in the boiler room, what if that messed with Ingrid’s head and made her have a headache.
//We also know the Not-Melee tournament and it’s blackout means the generator in the boiler room got busted. It’s not linked to the other areas since those in them areas didn’t report blackouts so it’s only the main building who’s power went out.
//I think the shrapnel has something with how the generator blew up and looking at the remains it looks to be a fire extinguisher which means Fire Extinguisher-Kun betrayed us and was used in a murder.
//Now the movements make it seem like the culprit but I don’t think so…I think someone else was locked into the boiler room with Wolfgang, since the door panel was changed, and well…if Wolfgang was injected with something…it depends what it was.
//It could be a sedative but normally people put them in the arms not the neck, but there were various chemicals, what if a hallucinogenic drug was used? Depending when Wolfgang was administered it, explains some of his strange behaviour since you aren’t gonna behave well if you are tripping balls.
//We also see a knife and yet it wasn’t used on Wolfgang, which makes me think he was the only who grabbed the knife and used it to attack someone. He either was as nasty as I thought he was, or he was tripping out and so wasn’t thinking rationally at all.
//So who did Wolfgang attack? Diana is my best bet as it can’t be someone from the Not-Melee Tournament and the only people in the building at the time were Diana, Ingrid and Toshiko. The last two were together the whole time so they can vouch for each other but Diana was not. Furthermore she seemed very flustered and panicked for some reason, even going as far as to try and get the culprit to confess before the trial. Of course she would be horrified if Wolfgang called her somewhere and attacked her out of nowhere.
//So Diana is the one who got attacked and bled and ran away, she was the footsteps the Tourney people heard, but does that make her the culprit? Not really as it wouldn’t explain the blackout and some other stuff, meaning she was more likely framed for the whole thing.
//So who’s my culprit pick? Well remember when I said I was sus of Eva? Yeah the investigation has strengthened my resolve since she was our investigation partner the whole time, which means she had every right to discredit and misdirect us. Plus she was the first person Damion met and since he rolled a Nat 1 in Persuasion in the Prologue and Wolfgang got everyone in the group to turn against him and Eva, the only person he bonded with. You could argue he and Kai are starting to get on but let’s be real, Kai didn’t enjoy being with us, and it was the fear of being killed in his sleep that made him keep us around. // “But Eva cannot be the culprit as she was at the game tourney” she was for most of it but I think she came there to give herself an alibi, as she never signed up for it which was sus, and when Damion and Kai were having their match a certain Mathetic wasn’t present in the CG at all, so I think while everyone was glued to the game, Eva snuck away to commit her murder and came back as soon as the blackout occurred. It was well…dark after all so she could easily do this, to give the illusion of her being with the tourney group all the time.
//And plus she was very insistent the rolling pin has nothing to do with the murder, and said there was no way for the culprit to bring it back but who investigated the storage closet the pin was found in to find the backup generator? Eva and Grace, so she could easily place that back.
//The final nail in the coffin is Wolfgang was probably lured out by a note saying the culprit has his blackmail, especially as Wolfgang did a David and said everyone should talk privately about their blackmail, and we know how well THAT goes. We know Damion has it but guess what? He told Eva it as well, so she could trick Wolfgang into think she has his blackmail.
//Now obviously the big question is motive. It could be Eva is pissed that Wolfgang ostracised her but I think it’s because she believes Wolfgang is not what he seems. Sure he acts affable and friendly to others but remember he’s the Ultimate Lawyer, and one with a very Ace Attorney like upbringing where he was a prodigy. Plus his blackmail featured his parents and the hint was that Wolfgang takes a lot after his father. We also know during the Mock Trial Wolfgang got very intense during it. But there’s another motive. The PIN lock which requires a 4 digit code. The others tried to solve it but failed, but guess what? Eva is the Ultimate Mathetic which means if anyone can solve the PIN code, it’s her. Maybe the plushie cost was the PIN code and going inside she discovered something that made her want to commit murder.
//Either way, this is gonna be a very intense Class Trial, as Damion is gonna be in the hard position to condemn someone who stood up for him but hey that’s Danganronpa for you.
#review anon talks#project eden's garden#project’s eden garden chapter 1 spoilers#one part of the investigation was annoying#since it doesn’t tell you which order to investigate a certain set of rooms#and so the game was like you aren’t done here#and i’m like pointers people?#either way#we will see if i’m right or not#because if i am#it’s another case of review anon needs to die chapter 1 in the mod/anonsona killing game or else she exposes the whole thing
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Thoughts on Komaru Naegi?
Komaru is a cool character.
Its a very bold move to have a character that exists in Trigger Happy Havoc due to that motive video we saw in Chapter 1, and make her a fully fledged main character in Ultra Despair Girls, but it actually works as we get more Naegi without it being Makoto.
It also shows that while Makoto and Komaru do share similar characteristics they are not the same. Komaru is more unsure of herself due to the fact she sees herself as a normie, and being placed in a situation entirelly out of her comfort zone. She often has to lean on Toko for support due to seeing the later as more competent in what she is doing.
However as the game progresses, Komaru develops more of a backbone which can actually be shown visually as at the start of the game, Komaru's idle pose is very crouched down and unsure but after the speech she does to the Adult Resistance, she straightens up and is a lot more confident looking in her poses.
She is also not willing to be a submissive character forever as she does criticise Toko when she shares her literary traits that Komaru doesn't approve of, and when she and Genocider Syo fight due to Nagito's deal, it shows she is unwilling to just back down in the face of adveristy.
However she also has a sense of justice as despite being given a chance by Nagisa to just walk away from Towa City and be free, she refuses to do as the children vs adult war needs to end plus Monaca has Komaru's parents held hostage so their's a personal reason for that as well.
Of course in typical Danganronpa format, finding out her hero's journey was all pre-planned so she could be groomed to be the successor of Junko Enoshima was devestating to see her break down. But there was also a missed chance, as we know Komaru can channel spirits so what was stopping Monaca from having Junko's spirit possess Komaru? You need body parts but she had Nagito who literally has Junko's right arm, so it would have been as easy as to trick Komaru into holding the arm and then boom spirit possession! And then the final showdown could be Komaru fighting off Junko's influence and foiling Monaca's plans that way.
The only thing I could think of is that Monaca didn't know she could do that, as if she did, then she would have done that.
I do like how Komaru does ultimately go for a third option to stop the cycle of violence and destruction and try and broker peace between the children and the adults. Something that Despair to Future Arcs addresses very well.
Ultra Despair Girls is a bit of a oddball of a Danganronpa title, but it does a good job with its protagonist and its little wonder why Askblogs have her such a important character.
#review anon talks#danganronpa#dr#danganronpa ultra despair girls#udg#komaru naegi#and she remains as the mc for the 2nd story in my au#while her journey will be slightly different it will have the same beats to it#plus i will get to show off more of komaru's abilities#and then she becomes a major character in the 3rd story of the au#you are not prepared for what she does there#trust me
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