#remember the real victims of transmisogyny

[hundilisse]

it's so cool how not a single human being on earth is exempt from experiencing transmisogyny. in fact, i think we should turn our focus away from how trans women and transfems are affected and focus on the ways it affects everyone else.

[autolenaphilia]

God, it's fucking remarkable how people claim to support predstrogen and oppose transmisogyny, while still participating in transmisogynist harassment campaigns like the one against the co-host co-founder.

Like that's literally what the scandal is about. Predstrogen was the victim of years-long harassment campaign which used mass-reporting and got her account banned. And tumblr let her harassers blogs stay up while deleting her accounts. And the ceo took criticism of tumblr's transmisogynistic moderation practices as a personal insult to his self-image as a cool dude, so he has repeatedly personally justified it. Matt Mullenweg isn't the only villain here, the hate mob driving harassment against her is too.

I remember the callout posts against predstrogen, sometimes thy were outright terfs, but others justified the harassment in the same coded ways they do for every trans woman. "She was into problematic kinks or defended them, and therefore basically a pedophile sexual predator." Or "she is a transfeminist, therefore she is a transandrophobe that hates transmascs."

Like it's the same pattern of bullshit, it doesn't explicit target her identity as a trans woman, but these callouts repeatedly happen to transfem after transfem every fucking time. And they always use the same bullshit accusations that just so happen to line up with the widespread transmisogynistic image of transfems as sexual predators who oppress real wombyn.

The reason predstrogen's story resonates is because it vividly shows what it is like to be a transfem on this platform.It didn't just happen to her as an individual, It's part of a larger systemic pattern of transmisogyny.

If you participate in these transmisogynistic callout harassment even by just reblogging the callouts, you are also a villain here. And you can't claim to support predstrogen while participating in the process that drove her off the platform.

You can't condemn Matt Mullenweg when you are a willing cog in the same transmisogynistic hate machine that he is defending. The only difference between you and Mullenweg is not that you lack his bigotry, it's that you lack his millions of dollars, and the immense individual power and influence that brings.

[homosexuhauls]

Can you imagine if a white lesbian public figure brutally murdered two trans women in an interracial relationship and their black son? The headlines, the think-pieces, op-eds...we would never hear the end of it. It would be blamed on lesbian communities as a whole and the transmisogyny and white supremacy we obviously perpetuate on a daily basis just by existing. Cotton ceiling discourse would be back with a vengeance. There would be rallies and vigils, there would be calls to "Stand by your trans", there would be "#LWithTheT" marches. There would be a community in mourning, full of fury and hurt and self-righteous rage at the nasty lesbian aggressors who clearly caused this anti-trans hate crime. There would be no room for nuance and all lesbians would be painted with the "evil cis white dykes want us dead" brush. All of this would be seen as a completely acceptable and understandable response to a brutal act of anti-trans violence by a lesbian perpetrator.

So where is the noise? Where is the clamouring? Where is the sound and fury, when a famous white trans activist murders an interracial lesbian couple and their black son? I don't expect (or want) it to spark a radfem revolution, but why is the silence around the Dana Rivers murder case so deafening? Why does no one in the so-called LGBTQ+ community care enough to loudly and proudly mourn and celebrate these women and their son? Charlotte, Patricia and Benny deserve to be remembered. They deserve our sound and fury. Even if it's difficult, even if the optics don't suit your world views, we cannot ignore some injustices and claim to fight against others. The cowardly LGBT+ media organisations and charities covering their eyes and pretending that this act of violence never happened, they will happily call on lesbians for solidarity this pride month, despite showing no solidarity for a lesbian family slaughtered by an apparent member of our own "community". How can we call this anything other than a cover-up, or at the very least, deliberate and contrived ignorance?

Patricia Wright. Charlotte Reed. Benny Toto Diambu-Wright. Their lives were stolen from them on November 11th 2016. I can find no obituarities, and minimal mainstream media coverage of their murders. For many years, it felt almost as if their suffering had been forgotten. It has taken six and a half years for their murderer to be convicted and sentenced to life without parole, a sentence which Rivers will spend in a women's prison. Is this justice, or a pale imitation of such? Either way, I hope this family may finally rest in peace and power, and that their loved ones may begin to move forwards.

Pat and Char, as they were known to friends and family, are survived by two children. Patricia worked as a school teacher and deaf interpreter for schools, while Charlotte worked in a salon known locally for being trans-inclusive. Patricia was also an artist and talented actor, having considered a career in performing arts after high school. Charlotte had previously been a member of an all-female motorcycle club, which Rivers was also involved in. Both Charlotte and Patricia were also former regular attendees of MichFest, a feminist music festival which was closed down in 2015, following years of protests by trans women including Dana Rivers. 19-year-old Benny had just graduated high school and, according to his brother, hoped to become a nurse.

A victim impact statement was read out by Richard Wright, Patricia's younger brother, during Rivers' sentencing. I can't find the full text but much of the statement can be found in the Berkeley Scanner article below. Wright describes the impact of finding out that his sister and her family had been "assassinated in their own home" and the traumatising experience of searching for important paperwork at the bloodied crime scene that was once their home. According to Richard, Dana Rivers "chose her [sic] entitlement and narcissism over basic human decency" and "chose violence, cruelty, sadism and entitlement — over and over and over again." This is in reference to the length of court proceedings due to Rivers' changing pleas, as well as the brutality of the crime itself, which was carried out using guns, knives and arson. According to the judge, the murders of Patricia, Charlotte and Benny were "the most depraved crime that I’ve handled in the criminal justice field in 33 years."

No one but Rivers is responsible for these heinous crime, but all of us are responsible for ensuring history is not forgotten, and that the stories of those taken from us continue to be told. And when we tell their stories, in sound and in fury, we must ensure they do not fall on deaf ears.

"They were real people, not collateral damage...They deserve to be seen."

- Richard Wright's victim impact statement

For more information, see below:

[nolongerinusegoodbye]

simply decided that arguing with people here about how my experience wasn't valid or real isn't worth my time. but honestly, seeing people try and defend alex by saying the documents were made as a result of transmisogyny or transphobia is genuinely fucking insane considering almost all the victims including myself are trans. it just shows people aren't reading the entire documents and processing the information like they should be. it pisses me off.

anyways. staying off this website in terms of posting for now. remember to support all the victims alex has hurt.

[rollerska8er]

On Imane Khelif

While we are right to feel joy at Imane Khelif's victory and to support her in her legal action against the people who libelled her, I fear that a lot of people are going to take the wrong lesson from the scandal.

The lesson is not "Imane Khelif is a Biological Woman™ who was mistaken for a trans woman by idiots on the internet".

There is no such thing as a "biological woman", as opposed to a "non-biological woman". all women are biologically women because women are, by necessity, alive. A cisgender woman is not a "biological woman", she is a type of woman.

The lesson is that "There exists no definite parameter which can differentiate all cisgender women from all transgender women, and attempts to assert any one indicator as a definite differentiator of the two will result in misogynist attacks on women, regardless of their assigned sex at birth."

If Imane Khelif was a trans woman, it would not make the indignity she suffered at the hands of commentators like J. K. Rowling and Logan Paul somehow right. The attacks on her were specifically transmisogynist in nature, including people looking at stills of her matches to see if they could spot her supposed external genitals, "proving" she was "really a man".

I have seen several well-meaning people talk about stupid transphobes not even knowing what Real Biological Woman™ is when they see one (implying that trans women are pretenders to womanhood, which they are not), and not the rather more salient point that it doesn't matter if you are "Born A Woman" (that is to say, assigned female at birth), because gendered perception of the sexed body has nothing to do with your birth sex or chromosomes, and everything to do with socially constructed ideas, especially around the inherent female inferiority to men in terms of strength and athletic ability, which is not at all reflected by observable reality.

The harassment inflicted upon Imane Khelif at this year's Olympics was not a case of mistaken identity so much as it was transmisogynist society working as it should. The purpose of a system is what it does.

Women of any gender assigned at birth can be victims of transmisogyny, if the way they present to others is perceived as too masculine. It is for that reason that trans liberation and bodily autonomy is, ipso facto, a feminist position.

Remember: The issue isn't that transphobes don't know a Real Woman™ when they see one. It's that the gender is not something you can determine with scientific testing. It's that many people assume their faulty observations of gender presentation and so-called "Biological Sex" can be extrapolated into a narrative of gender identity and duplicitous conduct on the part of cis female athletes whose bodies happen to produce more testosterone.

In short, transphobic culture can hurt anyone if they deviate from its precepts. This can and will happen again.

We have to be ready to counter it with better narratives than merely pointing out the fact that the target of a transmisogynist attack is a cis woman, as though it would somehow be okay if she was a trans woman.

The sustained attack on trans women is an attack on all women. What Imane Khelif has endured proves it.

[trans-androgyne]

i keep having this persistent thought that transandrophobia isn't real (even though i know it is) and that the only reason people hate trans men is because we're weird, and it's our fault for not accepting our male privilege and we want to be victims so badly- do you ever deal with thoughts like this? how do you logically talk yourself out of transandrophobia denial?

I completely understand you, these are the ideas we have heard over and over again, some of us for many years. They are unfortunately just as baked into the queer community as thoroughly as transmisogyny and exorsexism are. When I first found these conversations, I had a really, really hard time accepting that my experiences were real and mattered and could have a name put to them. I’ve had to keep a long list of examples of transandrophobia (both interpersonal and systemic) in the notes app of my phone because I feel like I need an abundance of evidence for it or I’ll never be believed. I’ve been able to seek reassurance and comfort and advice from other transmasculine people, mostly those on my lovely discord server (shout out to you folks!) and the transfems in my lives as well. My DMs and asks are always open if you want to reach out about something specific you’re struggling with. In the meantime, I’ll address these current feelings.

These ideas have all been expressed to me in the form of nasty anons; I am used to dealing with them. Trans men are not weird. They are not ugly. They are not cringe. They are not fake. They are not gender traitors. They are radical in their powerful and beautiful queer masculinity, and they are a fucking gift to this world. I love every single trans man out there and you should love yourselves. So many other trans people care about you so, so dearly. Male privilege cannot be blanket applied to trans men; that’s simply not something granted to them on the level of cis men. If you believe you experience some levels of male privilege, please do acknowledge it and use it to uplift those without it. But you don’t need to convince yourself that you have it just because other people told you so. You know your experiences better than anyone else. Trans men are not playing up their victimhood. Their abuse and oppression has simply been too invisible for too long, and people are only now truly being forced to confront it. There is going to be tension and cognitive dissonance occurring in the trans community over this for a while. But I promise you it will pass and we will come out stronger and prouder on the other side. Please reach out to those who care about you and remember there are people who believe you.

[angelofthemornings]

I sat down and contemplated why the transandrophobia argument made no sense to me and then I realized that - aside from transphobia, internalized transphobia, gender essentialism (including and especially Man As Enemy), and the urge to commit lateral aggression - the words transandrophobia and transmisogyny are actually quite different, the argument might come from a fundamental historical misunderstanding about that, and that's interesting to me.

(Similar to how transmisogyny and misogynoir are words that are quite different - they've broadened in a display of parallel evolution to encompass "any of the unique experiences with hatred trans women/Black women face by virtue of being trans women/Black women", and we're going to come back to that expansion later, but misogynoir was originally coined to criticize hip-hop culture and was a term used for media criticism. Transmisogyny comes the famous text Whipping Girl and was/is a sociological term.)

First of all, lemme get my copy of Whipping Girl and get the original and most impactful definition of the word.

"While trans people on the female-to-male (FTM) spectrum face discrimination for breaking gender norms (i.e., oppositional sexism), their expressions of maleness or masculinity themselves are not targeted for ridicule—to do so would require one to question masculinity itself.

When a trans person is ridiculed or dismissed not merely for failing to live up to gender norms, but for their expressions of femaleness or femininity, they become the victims of a specific form of discrimination: trans-misogyny."

You may want to read that one over a few times.

(I'd argue this passage would be clearer if Serano specified that trans men's *successful* expressions of masculinity aren't criticized - "successful" being in the eye of whatever individual or community is currently beholding the person - because we do criticize men for having beards but not binding due to back problems or whatever and "failing" at being coherently masculine, that is, for letting "femininity" slip in. But, we just don't criticize men for being successfully masculine in the eyes of the beholder. Ever. Trans or cis. This is because masculinity has UNIVERSALLY positive associations, to the extent that we have to say stuff like "toxic masculinity" to separate our criticism of masculinity from the "actual/real/default" masculinity, which is never negative. Meanwhile, femininity is often criticized in and of itself. I mean, you can easily hear someone say "ew, that's girly" but not "ew, that's manly.") (To zero in on the argument a little more, trans women being successfully feminine is a threat or a joke or a figure of revulsion - remember when Cards Against Humanity had "a passing transsexual" as a card they later apologized for and pulled? Meanwhile, I've never seen anybody walk into the gay bar with existential paranoia that one of the gorgeous twunks in there might secretly have had certain surgeries. ...actually, I think I've met that guy, but hopefully we can agree that "passing trans man as threat" is not anywhere *near* as much of a thing.)

So. What this boils down to is that transmisogyny was originally a word that refers to trans women's unique relationship with misogyny.

However. This word has expanded to include trans women's unique experiences with transphobia as well. (For example. Cis women aren't often accused of being sexual predators even when they do something like literally "seduce" a junior high student, so the idea of sexually predatory trans women isn't from misogyny, but transphobia. Still, nowadays you'll hear discussions of the predatory transfeminine stereotype called "transmisogyny" as well, and so you can see how the definition has broadened.)

You could criticize trans men here for "stealing" a word from trans women. But the queer community has been sharing terminology since forever, so I personally don't find this to be a very compelling argument against the term. (I'm old enough that I was extremely confused the first time I heard someone say "gay men can't be butches.")

Now, at some point trans men appear to have heard this and thought, hmm, I want to speak with more clarity and precision about transphobia that affects only or primarily trans men. (For instance, one example that comes up a lot is trans men as scared brainwashed little children who need legislation to save them from themselves - trans women, on the other hand, are generally considered not to be poisoned by societal forces but to have agency in the most negative way imaginable, as in, they're making an active choice to be duplicitous predators. Or at least acting alone in general, for instance, out of personal mental illness.)

So. Someone came up with "transandrophobia" as a counterpart to transmisogyny's broadened but not original and most impactful definition.

So, in essence.

Transmisogyny is a word about trans women's unique experiences with misogyny and transphobia.

Transandrophobia is a word about trans men's unique experiences with transphobia alone.

Androphobia does not exist. We do not, as a society, criticize or punish successful masculinity. I'm not gonna argue this one out because it would take another six paragraphs. So...you know, I think people were originally just working off the Whipping Girl definition and not the broadened one and just mad that it implied androphobia is actually a thing.

...but, you know that all queer people are siblings, right? Is it theft or cross-pollination? Why or why not?

But transphobia against trans men sure as hell exists and sometimes it does have unique manifestations that come from unique places. (I don't see trans women who have legal M markers worrying too much about whether insurance will pay for their childbirth.) This is probably worth having a word for - it appears to be desirable to the transmasculine community - and so I'm honestly not sure what the big deal is that they want this word to exist. It may have been tasteful to pick a term that didn't resemble "transmisogyny" so much because the word has a very different origin and describes very different phenomena.

Speaking of siblings, I should give my little sister (she is trans) and her wife a call. If I sit down and think about what trans women face for five minutes I suddenly get really protective over her for mysterious reasons.

[the-pea-and-the-sun]

okay uhh as a silence of the lambs fan i have some stuff to say abt silence of the lambs and red dragon (the book that silence of the lambs is a sequel to). this is specifically abt the books and not the movies because although the movie also has a "btw this author is not transphobic" disclaimer a lot of it was cut for the movie and when you look at the stuff in the book its more obvious why that disclaimer doesnt wash harris' hands of any transphobia that the story perpetuates. i read my library's copies of the books a couple times but dont have them with me so this is jus from my memory of how they went so. sorry if i get stuff wrong i jus kinda wanted to get these thoughts out. if you happen to have the book handy feel free to correct me on any details i get wrong

obviously buffalo bill is a grotesque transphobic caricature. you can tell that it occurred to thomas harris while writing that he came up with the idea of "evil serial killer skins women because he wants to become one!!" first and then after doing some basic research on transsexualism thought "ah some ppl might come away from this thinking (that i think) that all transsexuals are perverted monsters" and decided to remedy this by adding a psychiatrist character who works at a trans clinic and is a staunch protector of the rights and privacy of his patients. this gets in the way of jack crawford's investigation, who after being a complicated character in red dragon is now almost a one dimensional hero character. the psychiatrist and crawford eventually compromise on the basis that buffalo bill isn't a real transsexual (because if he was, than that would make transsexuals look bad). the reasoning (according to both harris and the psychiatrist character) that buffalo bill isn't a real transsexual is because he was denied treatment. if i remember correctly the reason buffalo bill was denied treatment was because he had a criminal record (?) but whatever the reason we're obviously meant to side with the point of compromise that crawford and the psychiatrist come to, that real transsexuals are "harmless and passive" people we should have compassion for and shouldnt be afraid of, and fake transsexuals are perverted monsters, and we can trust psychiatrist to differentiate real transsexuals from fake transsexuals.

this is the most sympathetic possible stance on transgender people that someone could take from silence of the lambs. but in reality, obviously a lot of people are not going to go out of their way to find out that thomas harris said that buffalo bill wasn't a "real transsexual", and are just going to come away from the story thinking that the psychiatrist was just a bureaucratic nuisance to our hero jack crawford whos trying to stop the crazed evil transsexual. since buffalo bill is the only person resembling a trans person that we see, thats the version people are going to remember. if clarice starling was transgender too, for example, itd be a lot easier to defend the idea that harris' writing isn't perpetuating transphobia because the audience would be sympathetic toward clarice starling, and since so much of a story with clarice starling as a cis woman is focused on her struggling against misogyny within the fbi, making her a trans woman would've made this a story about her struggling against transmisogyny, and that wouldve been the primary view of trans women that the audience would've walked away with: as hardworkers, as heroines and protagonists, and as victims of systemic misogyny. the "positive" view of transsexuals as "harmless and passive" would've gone along with the conflict that clarice starling already deals with, that shes weak and passive and incapable of doing her job at best, and dangerous and harmful at worst.

i dont want a silence of the lambs remake where clarice starling is transgender, i'm just saying that when you compare it to red dragon (the book where will graham is the detective), it actually becomes very telling that she isnt. in red dragon, the killer is written with a lot more sympathy than buffalo bill is written with in silence of the lambs, and instead of (not) being a transsexual, the killer in red dragon has a facial deformity. we hear about his childhood, how his mother abandoned him because of his deformity, how he was an continues to be mistreated by others. there's even a point in the story where the audience is rooting for him to reform, as he's actively fighting against the part of himself that wants to hurt people. he becomes ashamed of this part of himself and tries to repress it, but is ultimately unsuccessful.

this is all to say that my idea that silence of the lambs wouldn't have been such an egregious example of media perpetuating transphobic attitudes if clarice starling was transgender (and if buffalo bill was portrayed more sympathetically like the killer in red dragon) doesnt come from nowhere. because by the end of red dragon, will graham now has an acquired facial deformity. in red dragon, we're made to believe that a major reason if not the only reason the killer became who he is is because of society's mistreatment of people who have facial deformities. the depiction isn't perfect, but i think that there's almost no chance a person would come away from red dragon thinking that people with facial deformities are dangerous monsters. we've seen them as victims of bullying, as victims of child abuse, as people capable of falling in love, and, by the end, as our hero and protagonist who we've been rooting for for the entire duration of the story.

from red dragon to silence of the lambs we can see thomas harris have less sympathy to minorities who are made into villains by society, and more sympathy for the cops that arrest them. silence of the lambs just comes with the added lukewarm feminist take of "hey look! those cops can be women, too!". in red dragon, the police end up having zero net positive impact on the case whatsoever. we're looking at the story through the eyes of will graham, but he's explicity not fbi, and his precense in the story is him explcitiy being mistreated by the fbi to further jack crawford's means. will graham is there because crawford has managed to convince him that if he doesn't cooporate with the police, he'll be letting people die, but by the end of the story, the only thing will graham's presence in the fbi has contributed is the death of a reporter, and the endangering of will graham and his family. the difference in portrayal of the police in red dragon compared to silence of the lambs is stark. in silence of the lambs, the police do save people, but those who are uncooperative with the police almost prevent them from doing so. in silence of the lambs our pov detective is a policewoman, in red dragon our detective is a victim of the police, struggling with mental and physical health issues as a result of his time with them.

there's also something to be said about how the books only get worse in quality and more hateful of minorities and more in favor of cops from there, but i think thats kinda all i wanna say for now

[stackslip]

you're inspiring me to rewatch 2003, it was my favorite between the two when i watched them but I forgot most of it in the decade since. also you're good at highlighting exactly how mangahood doesn't work. I actually watch 2003 before reading the manga and I remember thinking the ending of

it's really fucking frustrating to me that people basically closed ranks around Brotherhood as the 'real one' and dismiss 2003 as a regrettable mistake/error in the One True Canon. I've always really loved that 2003 and Brotherhood diverge it's such a unique collection of art

also I want to rewatch the two sequel movies (Milo's and conquerer of Shamballah) god I love bleak writing

i have never watched the second movie but i remember really enjoying conquerors of shamballah. granted, i was like, 14 then lol. there was a lot that i didn't catch in fma 2003's themes at the time, but same as you, i watched it before i read the manga (and i finished the manga before watching brotherhood) and i remember even then i was disappointed by some of its aspects. then in my early 20s i was like well manga/brotherhood is better bc it's better executed (as like. a mid shounen lmao) and bc it has greedling (i do still love greedling, if only bc i looove body sharing as a trope), but i still thought 2003 had lots of good aspects and couldn't understand how people went from "fullmetal alchemist is one of the best animes ever" to "fma 2003 was a mistake and all bad and stupid actually and its female characters suck compared to mangahood which has MUCH better female characters" (i was thoroughly unimpressed by fma's base female characters. loved mei and lan fan but come on they were hardly given so much depth). not to mention how disappointed the manga version of the homonculi were. like i remember when sloth in the manga was first introduced being SO disappointed.

in retrospect, i think mangahood's status as The Best Animanga Of All Time when even at the time i liked it most i found it..... decent to good at best, and quite overrated, has made me sour on it quite a lot. like it felt impossible to talk about anything i disliked about it bc despite having such a highly praised status, people get irrationally angry and defensive over any criticism of the manga or brotherhood's themes and story. they'll either claim its depiction of genocide and fascism is really good, or when you criticize it they'll go "well it's a shounen, why are you criticizing it for being a shounen!" (i think shounen can do and engage with these themes thoughtfully! and i think if you're gonna use these themes and depict genocide so viscerally you got a duty to do it right to the end or at least TRY to do so). it's when i started rewatching clips of 2003 and being really impressed by the clips, and how much they held up if not actually blew brotherhood out of the water. and it's also my own maturing in terms of politics and understanding of fiction that made me even more open to what 2003 was doing even though i remembered it did fail in some aspects! like, i don't think as a 14 year old i much understood the nazi thing, and as a young adult i was like "eh that was a bit weird" but it's in the past few years in my criticizing of what brotherhood and the manga fuck up that i suddenly realized "oh. 2003 was actually saying the quiet part out loud instead of using this as an aesthetic for its world!"

i was unsure how much 2003 would hold up on a rewatch tbh, and there ARE clunky if not bad parts. making human barry the butcher a serial killer who dresses as a woman to get his victims is............ a choice. it's very typical 90s/2000s transmisogyny and even though it's only one episode it left a real bitter taste in my mouth. the anime filler episodes are not nearly as strong as the main plot episodes (even when they have anime-only content!), though i appreciate the effort to make them thematically relevant to the series and make many of the anime-only characters direct parallels to ed and al. they clearly saved the animation budget for important parts, and it suffers in some episodes (i am fine with that, i watched lots of mid 2000s anime who had the same issue. not everyone can use its budget allocation and limitations like rgu). i don't like the end of the one episode where the tomboy kid suddenly becomes feminine at the end bc she's happy now lmao.

but from episode 1, it's already so much more committed to some of the themes and ideas that harakawa evoked as flavour or background but barely dug into. she was making a fun action shounen with a large, lovable cast, and that's..... fine. it's just not interesting to me, at least outside of greedling's whole thing. it's got SUCH a melancholy feeling to it, it feels like it's digging into the literal guts of arakawa's world and characters. i also actually really appreciate that while it keeps touches of humor, it wayyyyy tones down the gags that are there every four pages or so--arakawa can make it work in the manga, but in brotherhood it's near unbearable how you can't one one serious scene without someone doing something goofy.

i will say, a little thing that i REALLY in 2003 like that's pretty personal is the way the alchemical circles are drawn and used. this might sound weird, but the way i learned about fma's existence was when i was i think 9-10 years old and bought a french anime magazine, and it had a whole part on fma 2003 including a two page spreader detailing the alchemical circles and their uses. it was my first ever impression of fma and i loved the look and feeling of them. there was something occult and dark about the way they were presented in that magazine that coloured my experiences when i watched the anime on a fan page in 244p max with terrible fansubs

[lunerat]

hey i just wanted to thank you real quick for your tags on that post about trans men not experiencing male privilege. i think social media kinda rotted my brain and expectations about transition, and ive been being cruel to myself for awhile now because i dont look like a cis man despite been on hormones for 4 years now and having good T and E levels. idk i feel a lot more at peace about myself and the way i look now and i rlly appreciate u

I feel you. Been on t for maybe I think 3 years now, pretty similar situation.

That said, do not remember what I said on that post. What I will say is that it absolutely is complicated. We don't experience male privilege by default, and it is contingent on the people around us considering us men without any question.

On the other hand, I have noticed lately that misogyny is also pretty rampant in the transmasc community, especially transmisogyny. I've experienced first hand just how nasty some guys can get about women. I'm not sure whats going through their heads that compels them to be misogynists but I don't think it helps that misogyny has always been prepetuated on a systemic level.

And then you have the fact that we are most usually also victims of misogyny too! Ppl labelled as female can't catch a damn break!! Like shit. It'd be lovely to pass entirely as male, if only to be taken seriously. Idk, it sucks, it's complicated. I definitely don't feel like I have privileges over cis women just by virtue of being seen as a teen boy from time to time. But compared to trans women, absolutely. The level of misogyny leveled at them is just wild.

I think it can generally be said that trans people have a weird relationship with male privilege.

[imageboard]

not to beat a dead horse and i really hate to namedrop these people since i promised myself that they were out of my life for good (and they are, hopefully) but this is relevant to me being reached out to by someone i hurt in the past and had completely forgotten about: i can say for sure the nunnery's abuse towards me wasn't justified by their own reasoning since it was pure mob mentality overall and darvo on ari's end especially; but it was, in a way, justice served, again, not because i had done anything wrong to them. my point here is that they influenced and pressured me to seriously hurt other people under the guise of radical feminist praxis (really, virulent transmisogyny) and, while it's important to acknowledge their role in these events, i cannot simply excuse my past actions.

that environment, paired with the abuse i was suffering at the hands of my parents back then, was so suffocating that my brain must've wiped it from my memory. i suppose it's good i don't remember most of what happened anymore, but it also made me forget my own harmful behavior from back then and thus, my ability to take accountability had been crippled all these years. but recently, someone reached out to me, and that person is one of my victims, essentially. I'd probably need to recall what even got me to join a hate group in the first place, why i left, why i went back, and why i left again. I'm unsure whether that would make this post too long or too uninteresting, I'll eventually talk about it in a more articulate manner if anyone's interested.

talking to this person was essential to unlocking some particular events stored somewhere in the archives of my memory; to keep it short, in late 2019 i went back to the nunnery, but a lot of things had changed after my year long absence; i figured i had found a support network that could help me heal from real life trauma, people that apparently respected my integrity. as it now obviously turns out, most of those acquaintances were batshit and terrible. nonetheless, i still committed heinous actions and veritably traumatized others, the nunnery's influence is only an explanation, not an excuse. thanks to this recent development, i was able to remember some aspects of it, and a lot of the information adds up. it makes sense that i really said those things to people, that i made them feel unsafe in their identity and bodies.

with that, i can only conclude that the way i was targeted by the nunnery reflected the way i mistreated and harassed others; hence, justice was served. i don't believe in karma or anything. it's more that the whole situation served as yet another valuable lesson for me.

I'd like to apologize to anyone I've hurt. i can't personally reach out to every single person, hopefully some of you will see this and choose to get in touch with me and have a conversation of sorts.

[amoonglove]

Andromeda

((Content Warning: This work contains themes of Transmisogyny. Readers who are sensitive to this topic should take note.))

“You are a fool for coming here alone, Anthea.” The voice echoed through the treetops: Acantha’s voice.

Anthea had thought to stop and pray at the Font before heading to confront Acantha about her gross mistreatment of the Oracle’s Garden. “‘Cantha?” she said, her eyes darting through the treetops. She stood quickly, her meditations interrupted, and grabbed at her satchel. “Acantha, where are you? I’d like to ask about what happened this week.”

“It must be so wonderful, living in a world full of ignorant bliss. What is it like to have the happy life you’ve always dreamed of? Tell me, Anthea. How does it feel to be everyone’s favorite?” Her words dripped like venom from the trees. The birdsong ceased, the leaves no longer rustled, the Shroud was dead silent.

Suddenly, a large creature hit the earth right in front of Anthea, throwing her backwards and into a large stone, she gasped for air, the wind had been knocked out of her.

“There’s an old friend that’s been dying to see you, darling.” Acantha’s voice rang once more through the trees before fading away completely.

Anthea steadied herself and was finally able to take a shallow breath, the dust began to clear and she tried to focus on the creature in front of her. It seemed to fill the entirety of the Font and she could feel an extreme heat radiating from it. The Oracle scurried backwards and threw her arms up in front of her face as a loud screeching noise penetrated the deepest layers of the forest. 

Anthea was heaving, curled up in a ball. Debris continued to fall onto her head and she braced herself as best as she could.

‘Oh yes, ANTHEA,’ the creature seemed to speak directly into her mind, its voice was raspy and its words accusatory. It seemed to emphasize her name, as if it were a curse. ‘We USED to be the best of friends.’

Anthea just shook her head, trembling. 

‘Remember when you were ugly, ANTHEA.’ There it was again. ‘I remember. I was there. You’re still ugly, aren’t you? You’ll never be pretty, like a REAL girl.’

She gasped, her eyes opening suddenly to try and focus on the creature. The Font looked like the inside of an oven, the creature was wreathed in red and gold flames and fire licked the earth all around it. “Wh-who are you?” Anthea tried her best to be brave. “What do you want from me?”

The intensity of the heat increased two-fold and Anthea had to press herself up against the rock behind her and shield her eyes again.

‘I don’t want anything from you, no, no. Not like that Roegadyn did… or that Viera… or that Au Ra… they all wanted you until they found out what was underneath, didn’t they?’

Anthea squeezed her eyes closed but couldn’t stop tears from welling up in them. The creature’s words brought back a flood of memories of intimate meals, kind words, and unkept promises.

‘You thought they wanted you. You thought they needed you. You thought they LOVED you. And even worse, you thought you could heal them. Stupid!’ The creature seemed to chuckle as Anthea sobbed loudly, barely enduring the searing heat while rocking back and forth, squeezing her knees to her chest.

“I didn’t know…” she whispered between her sobs, “I didn’t know, there’s no way I could have known.”

‘But you DID know. And yet you kept the truth from them until it was too late. And you’ve already found your next victim, haven’t you?’ The creature seemed to bring its face right up to the girl. She couldn’t raise her head to look, but she felt her arms and shoulders begin to blister from the heat. 

“S-Sion…” Anthea reached up to grab the earring he had made for her. As soon as her fingers clasped it, a burst of cold air filled her lungs and she felt relief from the heat, like finding shade from the afternoon sun. She looked up to see a large bird-like creature, its red eyes boring into her with rage and malice. “I am on the outside what I have always been! You know this to be true, Andromeda.”

The bird recoiled, its tail feathers whipping the ground in a rage. ‘You who cast me aside; you who shunned me!’ The creature reared its mighty head back and released a gout of flame from its mouth, consuming the Font in bright light. 

Anthea held Sion’s earring, the one with small purple flowers, delicately in her hands. And even though the flames enveloped the girl like a swell at high tide, she appeared again, unharmed. “Andromeda, I’m sorry if you felt like I deserted you. It was never my intention. But you allowed me to be who I truly am. You led me to the door.” Anthea began to cry again at these words. “I wouldn’t be who I am if you weren’t such a brave boy and… I’m so grateful for you.”

The creature immediately stopped, its piercing eyes fixated on the Oracle again. 

“I have never forgotten you, Andromeda.” Anthea reached out and stroked the bird’s head tenderly, the flames bit at her skin, peeling it back and charring it. But she didn’t stop. She continued to console the bird, crying and smiling and biting back the pain.

In an instant, the flames were quenched, as if they had never existed, and the Font returned to its peaceful state. Instead of a large flaming bird there stood a giant peacock, with shimmering green and gold feathers and regal plumage. ‘You… remember…’ he said so gently.

“Andromeda,” she whispered. Without even thinking she wrapped her arms around the bird’s neck and embraced him with everything in her. Andromeda, in turn, nuzzled her with his soft beak. “I’m so sorry, my friend. I never meant for you to feel abandoned.”

And with that, Anthea fell to the ground, unconscious.

[wwwyzzerdd420]

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If you're blocked, it's probably because you're either a transphobe (this includes idiots who think transandrophobia isn't a thing and their sisters the TERVEs), or a HP fan. If none of these apply, then probably kept recommending your posts en masse to me and I wasn't into it- contact me if this is the case and you want to be unblocked (Note 18Mar23: I am now also blocking idiots who defend the labels TMA/TME. Do not ask to be unblocked if you are in this category because ANY PERSON can be the victim of transmisogyny and pretending otherwise only hurts people)

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Name? Monty

Pronouns? He/Him/His

Gender? Faggot / Ska / Man 2 (Man: The Sequel) / MLG video, circa 2015 / Lovecore but Evil™️

Full Legal Name? Lamont Ignatius George-Martin Abernathy

Birthday? 20 April 1994

Favorite Movie? Step-Up 6. F9 Borat

Childhood Best Friend? Lauren Garcia.

Mother's Maiden Name? Owens.

Street I grew up on? Dogwood Ln.

Current Address? 215 S Ft Harrison Ave, Clearwater, FL 33756

SSN? 675-93-9612. (Don't judge 😅 I use this blog to remember this kinda shit!!)

Password to bank? !Snooki1 (I also use this for all my social media!)

What happened? I really don't want to talk about it

Wait is all of that up there actually true, I'm losing my mind? Yes, all true, my real info

Don't you care about internet safety? No, not really.

[caffeineandsociety]

Another thing about different gendered forms of transphobia is, if you're about to say "[xyz act of transmisogyny] NEVER happens to trans men or [presumed] AFAB NBs" or "[abc act of transandrophobia] NEVER happens to trans women or [presumed] AMAB NBs" or "[uvw act of exorsexism/binarism/intersexism] NEVER happens to binary perisex trans people"-

You are wrong. I guarantee you that you're wrong.

Gendered forms of transphobia and intersexism are gendered by PRIMARY target, not by EXCLUSIVE target. Whether because someone misreads your gender, or just because someone feels like using a certain framework, or whatever other reason, people can and DO, regularly, attack with whatever is convenient.

The bathroom predator stereotype was invented to attack trans women, but if a men's restroom is all urinals + one broken stall and there's a trans man who can't stand to pee, do you really think people are going to look at him in the women's room and go "go right ahead and use that toilet unbothered, fellow vulva-haver, you pass the vibe check, love your style, have a great night~!"? No! They're going to be just as shitty to him as they will be to any trans woman they clock! Hell, they'll be just as bad to butches regardless of ASAB, or even just to cis women with features they consider too sharp!

The tragic grooming victim force-transed by Big Pharma stereotype was invented to delegitimize trans men, but do you think the transphobic mother of a 9-year old trans girl isn't going to use it to wrestle her daughter back under her thumb and bar her from taking puberty blockers? Of course not! She's going to hop on that stereotype and ride it into the sunset to spin any way she abuses her kid as "tough love" and "cult deprogramming" and "saving" her!

And intersexism/exorsexism/binarism? Friends, I hate to break it to you, but all trans people are treated as gender-confused freaks who fail at being BOTH men and women, regardless of whether we're actually nonbinary or not - what gender are we? Whatever is convenient to demonize us at the moment, regardless of whether or not it's ACTUALLY part of our identity. Trans men who do not pass perfectly (and in fact many who do) are degendered, assigned "nonbinary" because Real Men Don't Look Like That, and then made into all of those horrible transphobic jokes about nonbinary people really just being the worst misogynistic stereotypes of ditzy bimbo not-like-other-girls girls who just want to be special and are simultaneously incapable of taking anything seriously or accomplishing anything as activists but also SOMEHOW able to overwhelm and devastate the entire community of REAL, DESERVING queers who are REALLY oppressed unlike them. Do we not remember that one Reductress headline? They/Them Pronouns Suddenly Easy For Person Misgendering Trans Woman? Do you think the trans woman being misgendered in such a situation is NOT being cast as the butt of exorsexist, intersexist, binarist garbage?

We're all in this mess together. Bigots don't draw neat lines in the sand that never get crossed, however much they like to say that's their purpose. We should stop trying to do their job for them.

[gulfportofficial]

Crybullying a trans woman into fucking hospital because she wrote a complicated work about trans fem hurt and insecurities and how those get weaponized in a military industrial world which he was too stupid to understand is actually the latest in a long line of Ana Mardoll being a transmisogynist.  And being stupid as well, but the fact that Ana is really fantastically stupid for someone who prides himself on being the smartest specialist thinker on Earth* is not really relevant to this rant. (Warning: rant is in bad English but I don’t care).

Ana is and has always been an “I would never!!!! How dare you hurt me this way!!!! I am a TERF-hating defender of trans womankind!” transmisogynist AND he is still somehow managing to get a contingent of uwus being like “oh poor babu. He is sad and disabled and trans, you cannot bully him for working at a weapons contractor for 15 years even if he DID spend that entire time lecturing everyone else about the horrible REAL VIOLENCE** they were doing by things such as... saying cishet because it might make a cis straight demiromantic invalid and so in order to stop doing VIOLENCE WITH OUR WORDS we should instead say “unqueer”***... like some kind of one-very-stupid-person panopticon tower.”  Actually, “still somehow get a contingent” is redundant. That literally IS the transmisogyny. People will bully the shit out of a trans woman for the slightest thing, especially if she has something complicated to say and doesn’t want to spoonfeed it to escapist babies like Ana “reading is ableist” Mardoll. But they will handhold and defend escapist babies like Ana “French chef stereotypes are dehumanizing racism” Mardoll specifically because they’re NOT trans women. Anyway, since I have hated his work for a loooooong time, I would just like to say that I remember Ana: 

- before he settled on his boy identity, he ID’d for a long time as a “trans woman” and “trans femme” - as in, he was an AFAB person who still felt like a woman, but also felt trans. He did this and did this over again until, according to him, literally told to stop by transfem friends.  - CONSTANTLY centered/centers himself in ALL trans issues, saying things like “TERFS hate trans people like me.” Which like, no, sorry. Yes, TERF shit impacts all trans people. Yes, they do say horrible, invalidating, aimed-at-legislative-restriction things about afab trans people. But their rhetoric about that is about “saving poor misguided girls”. TERFS HATE TRANS WOMEN very specifically. The vitriol, the nastiness, the emailing people’s bosses to out them, making “feminist” websites with photos calling them predators... that’s all for trans women, baby.  - Look, maybe you think this isn’t so bad, but I think it’s self-victimizing shit and I feel like his whole thing of constantly feeling “invalid” and “not queer enough” and other such horseshit means he’s incapable of putting his feelings aside to focus on the material needs of our community.  - Ana is king of tenderqueer shit. You know, being a soft boy baby at age 40+ or whatever. More thoughtful people than I have written a lot about how tenderizing transness to the extent people who do has a lot of run-on effects, including making trans men afraid of the effects of gender affirming care such as hormones; being really racist because being “uwu goblin gender” is really... not always as accessible to anyone who isn’t white; being TRANSMISOGYNISTIC as is relevant here. Fetishizing being a soft smol bean and hating anything hard or critical or big or strong... it’s not a 1:1 but it often has the effect of weaponizing being afab and framing trans women as unwelcome and scary once again, and I think we can see that in how Ana does his thing...   - In that holy shit crybullying itself (what a perfect word for the exact crazy-making wobbling jelly thing he does) being so SAD and SCARED and HURT like a poor little creature who didn’t MEAN to say anything bad he just is not NEUROTYPICAL while a BIG MEAN HURTFUL ELITIST ABLEIST trans woman has made you feel INVALID and TRIGGERED is such a fucking example of this.  Man, I have like years of examples of Ana just being a complete jello-cube of a person but I’ll just vent this here and cease.  * GOD remember when he wrote about how NLOG as a concept should not be criticized because some girls actually weren’t like other girls, such as fat, queer, and disabled girls. Because no girl has ever been fat, queer, or disabled of course. And all of those “other girls” are just a hive mind of skinny straight ablebodiedness. Top feminist analysis, Ana “the little mermaid is an otherkin allegory” Mardoll. 

** HE. WORKS. FOR. LOCKHEED. MARTIN. and HAS. DONE. SINCE. THE BUSH. ADMINISTRATION.

*** Actual example. 

[genderfluidlucifer]

Response to being asked to give  an opinion on Connie’s calout by residentevil-4

(Tw: CSAM, rape fic, incest fic, predatory behavior, racism, ableism, kink mention, nsfw mentions. Minors should probably dni.)

“Connie and I know each other irl and went to school together for 3 years, although they now live in a different state and have cut contact with me. We went to a private therapy school in Manhattan as we're both disabled and were deemed unable to attend public school. Even though we were pretty close, Connie didn't like having photos taken of them, so I don't have any selfies of the two of us; however, these are from our sophomore and senior yearbooks which at least confirms that we were in the same year at school. People who have seen Connie's selfies should be able to confirm that that is what they look like. First and foremost, Connie is not TMA. They are intersex and the two of us have discussed intersex issues both in person and online, but they are still decidedly CAFAB.” Ok so first off, I want to address this part of the callout. To be honest...was it really necessary to literally doxx Connie ehre? Because this textbook definition of doxxing. Yes Connie’s done some shitty things but I freally don’t think that what they’ve done warrants this level of doxxing. Or...even better, any doxxing. This feels like a really unnecessary breach of privacy, revealing sensitive information on Connie’s childhood that they choose to confide in you with. I really don’t agree with this aspect of the callout as it feels very invasive and bordering on stalkerish.  Btw when I say bordering on stalkerish I’m not directly calling you a stalker Bonnie. Just so we’re clear. I am not defending Connie supposedly faking being TMA. Because faking being TMA is a very serious issue. HOWEVER since I don’t know Connie irl and to be quite frank it’s none of my business what the nature of their agab is. Were not close and I’m certainly not going to like lead Connie onto thinking we’re friends just to confirm this with them because that would be creepy. So to be honest I’m going to take this part of the callout with again of salt for now.

[ID: A cropped screenshot of a numbered list Connie posted to their blog hadrosaurs in response to an ask. 

“3. I’m TMA And that’s completely irrelevant. I’m not accusing them because of their gender I didn’t even know their gender when they said that to me saying that they said that because they fucking said that and the reaction to it was incredibly alarming. Don’t fucking say that stuff to people.]

I mean I”m not a trans woman so take this with a grain of salt if you want but...I don’t see how this is really proof of Connie being deliberately transmisogynistic? Yes Connie gives iffy retellings of mistakes they’ve made in the past. I’ve seen that on their blog before and I won’t pretend it doesn’t happen. BUT here they sound genuine enough and to be honest a growing issue I’ve seen with callouts as of late is. A person confirms they in fact did not do the thing they were called out for. And then the people who make the callout choose to see it as proof of incriminating behavior anyways. To be honest it’s a big problem and it’s also incredibly unfair to the person being called out. If you’re so determined at that point to see the person as bigoted no matter what they say then of course anything they say can be seen as proof. So I’m going to have to pass on this bit of evidence. “Connie responded: “Final note: I have spoken extensively with several trans women about using TMA to describe myself. I will not be getting into discourse about that on this blog again. All that leads to is people demanding my medical records and calling me slurs. If you wanna have a thoughtful conversation about it direct message me cause it’s not happening again here.” Again this really doesn’t seem all that self incriminating. Connie mentions here that they’ve talked to rl trans woman about whether or not they can be considered TMA. Connie really doesn’t have to disclose that personal information to people for any reason. Yes even when people are e including this ask response in a callout. And considering lots of people DO get invasive about Connie’s medical history ans general personal life over matters like this? I feel their reaction is pretty understandable here. “Connie has constantly compared “exclusionists” (or anyone, really) to TERFs, even when the people in question are not transmisogynistic, trans exclusionary radfems, or are even transmisogyny affected themselves.

“ Gonna have to disagree with this part of the callout too. Lots of ace inclus blogs, even some run by trans women , have proven that the ace exclus movement was started by swerfs/terfs. But the blog that has the most evidence for this is courteousmingler on tumblr. I suggest you check out that blog’s archiving of the history of ace exclus rhetoric before rushing to call me a transmisogynist for disagreeing with this part of the callout. I looked through all of the evidence for Connie being racist and tbh as a black ndn it all feels incredibly flimsy. It’d be one thing if Connie was using their experiences to derail and invalidate the discussions about how black people are oppressed But they weren’t doing that there at all. This part of the post feels incredibly biased. And like OP is looking for things to be mad about. Going to have to pass on this list of evidence. Also uh I seem to recall that residentevil04 got called out for some questionable behavior as well. “Both me (insepsy, hi) and ezrat have had really weird spikes in activity on our Statcounters, both on the same day. (Saturday, 4/17/21) For both of us, majority of the pages looked at by these visitors have been related to or about Connie, or have been posts that Connie would find "problematic" such as the f slur untagged or something related to "panphobia"/aphobia. I’m sorry but...none of the proof of cyberstalking holds any water. Visiting someone’s blogs and rbing posts to disagree with them is not cyberstalking. Keeping tabs on urls that an abusive person who has harassed are using so you can block them (in this case with kyoshi) and warn your mutuals is not stalking. As a victim of rl stalking it’s...really weird to call this legit stalking at all. Much less claim that you have damning proof of it being stalking when no such evidence exists in the callout. Besides after Connie and nonbinarydave called out one of kyoshi’s buddies for sending a death threat hate anon to nonbinarydave’s toddler st4lker partly admitted to doing it a few times. Then other mutuals in kyoshi’s toxic social circle clearly began joining in. Making side accounts where they tried to spin a false narrative of nonbinarydave’s daughter being one of their alters (ableist as hell.) And also trying to do it in such a way that they thought would trigger nonibnarydave’s psychosis (also ableist as hell.) If you’re going to drag Connie for their mistakes and never let them move on from those mistakes then it’s only fair to do that to people you agree with who also do toxic/bigoted things. ALso the fact that your wording here suggests that you think panphobia and aphobia aren’t real makes me doubt this claim even more. Exclus and their allies are notorious for mislabeling inclus disagreeing with them as stalking. “connie said that they would release that info at a later time and the minor began to argue with them that they had a responsibility regardless of their complicated relationship with age. in this argument connie for a time kept their age ambiguous and at one point told the minor (who confirmed in a later ask that they were severely traumatized by adults) that they obviously weren’t traumatized. connie quickly deleted this ask and any mentions of it and the next post they reblogged was about how wrong it was to try and quantify or discount others’ trauma. on my old blog i @ed them in the replies and asked if they had just done that. connie admitted to it and said it was fucked up but quickly blocked + deleted my comment. i can’t remember whether or not connie apologized to the minor, they may have? but yeah. i thought that was pretty weird.”] I do agree with some of the concern here that adults shouldn’t over expose minors in discourse. I’ve been contemplating this for awhile myself. And trying to figure out how to take better steps to avoid including minors who are triggered by discourse in discourse, especially. HOWEVER I have one little issue with this addition to the callout. If that is the case then exclus and their allies need to practice this as well. You cannot ignore the fact that the reason a lot of minors are getting involved in exclus discourse is due to adult exclus and their allies forcing minors to pick a side in the discourse. Y’all are not at all exempt from this problem. I still remember an ex mutual of mine trying to convince a minor to agree that aces can’t face corrective rape. And based on how aggressive it got with me when I tried to avoid giving an opinion on the matter, I can’t imagine that it would’ve reacted better to the minor refusing to give an opinion or to the minor outright disagreed. Refusing to put these standards on exclus and their allies is both hypocritical and quite frankly very transparent. The claims about them glorifying dark topics on AO3 through their fics also seems unfortunately legit. I mean those asks of shaming people who ask their viewers to not romanticize or glorify abusive relationships in their works is very damning. I’m very disappointed to see that Connie has taken being an inclus to the point of validating antis anti culture wholeheartedly. I can’t think of much more to add to my opinion on that part of the callout. As for the issue of Connie interacting with pro shippers in the past, I do know that this claim is legit. I’ve seen it before and so has Breeze. This was why for a brief time we decided to stop following their blogs. Because it was triggering to have pro shippers put on our dash. And sometimes we just don’t feel it’s worth it to always let people we’re platforming know they’re rbing triggering stuff. So sometimes we just quietly unfollow and choose to not interact until we’re sure they’re filtering what they do and don’t rb in some way. I definitely don’t agree with that behavior. And if they’re still doing that I”ll deplatform again. “The anon asks: “A weird question but do you know any other stimboard blogs with your follow criteria? (No radfems, racists, fandom antis, etc.) I was hoping to find more through your “similar blogs” but a lot have no anti-antis for their DNI or allow truscum/transmeds and exclus. :(“

The user responds: “I know of @turtle-pond-stims, @outofangband, and @kinaesthetics! 🍂🍄" “[ID: A cropped screenshot of an ask sent by Connie from their now-deactivated blog, butch-with-a-tortoise.

Connie says: “hey anon I have safe stim blogs. dm me if you want them. And radfems/bigots aren’t allowed to interact. For my own safety (because the community is honestly terrifying) I can’t publicly say on my blogs that I’m safe for proshippers/kinky people but I try to spread word how I can.”] [ID: Screenshot of a post by evilwriter37, which reads, “I’ve been seeing posts about fandom police leaving ao3, and it’s like: Good. We don’t want you here anyway. Go find your own fanfiction site.”

The post is tagged “#Fandom #AO3 #Antis #Purity Culture” and has 87 notes. It was posted on December 21st, 2020.

There is a reply from main-to-outofangband-andothers saying: “there are Silm antis on that site who are against Russigon (Maedhros and Fingon) not because they’re cousins but because they’re both male (coded)”] [ID: A screenshot of an anonymous (though signed off as being from outofangband) ask sent to evilwriter37, which says, “Melkor and Viggo solidarity is ‘Look there’s nothing wrong with keeping my enemy chained up in my personal chambers at all times so please just focus on the war efforts and I’ll focus on the boy* in my chambers’ -@outofbangand.

*boy used figuratively @ antis”

The user responds: “Pfft!!! Hahaha! You’re absolutely right! (And Viggo does refer to Hiccup in canon as ‘my boy’).”] I can’t really say anything to refute this. Because these are all posts of Connie outright stating that they disagree with antis. And not only sympathize with anti antis but are fully against antis. Looks like very damning evidence. Although ngl I’m not entirely against kinky blogs as a whole? Just so long as they truly stay in their lane with their kink content. And don’t force it on others in any way. Or shame people who are triggered by their kinks. It is true that being entirely against kinky blogs no matter what is dipping your toes into swerf rhetoric. Tbh I’m not going to look at the rest. This is pretty much all I need to make a decision on whether or not I”ll continue platforming Connie. Though I will try to get some more  perspective from people who I interact with as well. Because I feel better about making a more definitive decision after doing that. Also in general please don’t not try to get an opinion from me on how I feel about syscourse. A lot of the claims about Connie’s age weirdness and them using their alters as a shield feel like syscourse to me. Especially if this callout was written by one or several singlets. Singlets should never be trying to judge how legit someone’s system is ever. Even if their system friends encourage them to. You can call out a horrible person with a system without trying to insinuate that they’re lying about their alters in some way. Doing otherwise is ableist ESPECIALLY if you’re a singlet. Also in general the reason I stay out of discussions of judging how someone is handling their systems is because it’s syscourse and syscourse is triggering for my system and I. If this post was an attempt to get me to give an opinion  on the validity of Connie’s system I don’t appreciate it. And I would appreciate not being dragged into such matters again, thank you.

In general there’s like a few parts of this callout that feel legit. Which is unfortunately cluttered with obvious bias and obsessive hatred of Connie. I’m not here to stan or coddle Connie. I know they are not a perfect person. Especially since no human being in the world is perfect. But I feel the way this callout was created was very sloppy since a lot of the evidence was messy at best. And some points were very hypocritical as well as there being some no true scotsman moments from OP. In acting like exclus never do any of the thing that they tried to call out Connie for. Which is behavior that I am not a fan of. This is why people need to be more careful about callouts and like make roughdrafts and have a more unbiased person helping them if they don’t feel they can do it on their own. I’m even trying to make a resolve to do better at that myself. So it’s not like I’m unwilling to put my money where my mouth is. Anyways those are all my thoughts on this messy callout. And tbh I’m not going to get too much more heavily involved in this. Because I need to focus on more immediately serious rl stuff more often, like doing what I can to get out of the hellish landscape of a house I currently am stuck in.