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jaxhammer2electricboogaloo · 6 days ago
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[GUIDE] Lion Grades - Where does your lion fall?
So, one thing I've never really managed to get the hang of on lioden was how lions ought to be valued, but over the past year, I've improved in this respect and I am here to post my own view on lions and what "Tier" or "Grade" they fall into. Related to the BO Mark Guide I wrote recently. This is mostly in the context of users who are searching to make a profit, rather than creating lions that simply look good or have sentimental/lore/ect value.
Gradations and Lions
Raffle Grade / Heir Worthy / Heir Grade / Premier Lions
Exactly what the name suggests. A Raffle Grade lion is comparable to a Weekly Raffle Lion in terms of value. They are typically your HIGH BO lions with BO Special or perhaps popular rare bases such as Goridhe, Cimmerian, Acacia, or Flaxen. Applicator Specials are generally avoided, unless they are combo factors. When people ask for an expensive heir, these are the lions they're after. Can also include RL Clones and high content near clones; the rarer the better. Lions in this tier may sell for as little as 75gb or as much as 300+. You need to account for marking rarity, the lion's uniqueness, the presence of a rosette, desirable markings (seals, felines, Cimmerians, are often sought after), as well as coherency in the design. Mutations, cleanliness, and generation can augment the value of a lion significantly as well.
"Heir" gets thrown around pretty liberally on the TC, but a good rule of thumb is that if the lion is being sold for just a few hundred SB, it's not actually an heir. It's likely breeder quality or even fodder quality. Heirs should at least run you 10gb, be a rare or BO special, or look good with a combo-factor application.
EXAMPLE: HYSKARR is an Heir-Worthy Lion.
SONNENBLUME is an Heir-Worth Lion.
CHEESY is a solid heir prospect.
Xyan (EDIT: Bought and Kinged!) and Zyan are only rare bases, but chock full of desirable traits. Xyan is worth more because he has more utility (can still be sex changed) and people broadly prefer Goridhe over Nacarat, which looks better with his markings even though Zyan has more BO traits.
People tend to avoid 'gimmicky' lions when searching for an heir, because these lions are by their nature not unique. On the flip side, some people may specifically search for these types of lions. A gimmicky lion is usually a 'bomb' of any kind: sealbomb ,colorbomb , vitbomb.
Green lions are generally to avoided as well. Algae, pistachio, bushveld, green, and senegal do have their community, but that community is rather small and niche compared to the rest of lioden. It is probably not smart to cater exclusively to green likers, especially since many people dislike green-heavy lions.
Heir worthy lions are 12/15 BO, having many more BO traits than not.
A Premier Lion is one you might consider keeping it's entire life and saving to your dynasty forever one it passed on. You would be highly unlikely to sell this lion, unless the offer was especially tempting.
Heirs should not be application heavy. Apps are appearance modifiers that should be used sparingly, especially when it comes to markings.
Pride Member / Pride Grade / Keeper Lions
Pride Grade has overlap with both the above tier, the Raffle/Premier Tier, and the below tier, Breeder Tier. These are lions that are well marked, with many of those marks being breed only. By "Well marked", I mean 7 or more markings. Their bases could be anything, rare and special being desired. In the absence of an heir, a Pride Grade lion who can still be sex changed may be made into a decent heir. These are your 10/15 BO lions, who may be missing the BO skin, eyes, or mane shape. Since skin and eyes can be BO bred year 'round with the appropriate items, mane color and shape should ideally be BO or BO productive (Thick/Barbary/Hellraiser are all components in Royal).
Keepers may be treated to some light or moderate customization. With a few lucky rolls from the RMA or an Applicator or two, they could very easily end up in Premier grade.
These are your Pride Huntresses.
You would be able to be convinced to sell these lions and would usually sell them for over 1000sb/1gb. The typical range is 1 to 10gb / 1000 to 10,000sb.
Lionesses that are well-marked with desired traits that you find as chased lions are typically Pride Members. You can tell because these lions tend to be older; 7+ years of age (approximately 3 heats used).
EXAMPLE - Ebony/Orchid 12/15 Girl, Project Remnant
Breeder / Breeder Grade / Project Grade / Intermediary Heir
Breeders are better than fodder lions, but that's not saying a whole ton. These are your lions that have a trait or several that warrants keeping them around, but in the event that trait becomes common or widespread, you would have little use for them. A breeder lion, as the name implies, is used in order to acquire Keeper lions and you would most likely spend little if anything on them as far as customization or even decoration.
Breeder lions usually have a TC sell range of 100sb to 500sb, or more if they have rosettes or many BO characteristics.
Breeders typically have 3-5 markings and at least one BO characteristic in the Appearance column. Usually, they have one or a few traits you want to mix with your king to get a lion with all desired traits.
Breeders would be lionesses you may get rid of if they give you dud cubs / after they give you any good cubs.
Breeders are often the targets of Raise and Chase players.
You are most likely not customizing these lions, as their time in your pride will most likely be brief.
You may see these lions chosen as Broodmothers.
EXAMPLE - Cabochan Kiwi Tsavo Mane - 7BO. Since my King has all the desired marks, this girl here is only here for her Appearance traits: the mane, skin, and most importantly the eyes.
Fodder Grade
Fodder lions are duds that have few or no characteristics to justify keeping them and would be a waste of resources to maintain. They are Karma Fodder, Tree Trash, Gorilla Bait; they basically exist to be killed. These are your unwelcome surprise Albinos, no mark duns, 1 or 2 mark rares, surprise inbred lions, and of course, NCLs that are claimed only to be destroyed or exiled. Every once in a while, a fodder cub will have a needed traits and will be being sold for dirt cheap by an owner who doesn't know it has a rare slot, but again, once the trait is common the lion goes back to being worthless.
Fodder lions can be anywhere from 5 to 100sb. 50sb is the generally agreed upon price for GE Fodder.
NCLs in heat may be being sold at 10sb per lioness or 5sb per lioness if she is NOT in heat.
It may be chump change, but fodder is easy to make and change adds up. Those who care about Karma, which is a fair amount of people, always have need for lions in bulk to delete off of the website.
There you have it! I hope that helped!
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frownyalfred · 2 years ago
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saw a post on the ao3 subreddit that made me remember

your smut/NSFW fics don’t necessarily have bad ratios, they’re just content that people are much more likely to:
be nervous about attaching their username to by leaving kudos
visit multiple times
privately bookmark
privately share only with friends/closed discord channels
leave kudos as a guest (if at all)
(you shouldn’t put too much stock in hit to kudos ratios, but that’s another post)
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redditantisemitism · 1 year ago
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I’m so fucking tired man
Antisemitism as a term was coined to replace “Judenhass”, or “Jew-hate” in order to make it sound more scientific. It specifically refers to Jews and only Jews.
Also peep the supercesssionist vibes of grouping Christians under “antisemitism”. Yikes.
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ur-local-fucking-disaster · 4 months ago
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Just watched The Amazing Digital Circus and I can't help picturing Jax and Kinger with that one reddit thread.
If you could have sex with any one real person right now, who would it be and why?
Kinger: I would choose my wife, who abstracted several years ago. All I want is to see her one more time.
Jax: I also choose this guy's dead wife.
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pinkwarden · 2 months ago
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m4ndysk4nkovich · 1 year ago
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peachssodapop · 2 years ago
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Every day I live in fear they will make a Zelda movie and they will have Link talk and I will hate it and Never be able to complain about it because know it all jack asses will act like they know more about Zelda than me and tell me there was no way they could make a big movie like that where the main character can‘t talk
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dia-viller · 4 months ago
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I like a theory that when Brom was dying and he glanced at the place where Murtagh was standing, he thought that it was just a hallucination of the young Morzan. That is why he didn't react to Murtagh
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ezziemagpie · 4 months ago
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Fanfic authors, please, I implore you, from one writer to another, DO NOT DELETE YOUR WORKS. Change the account ownership, make a different pseud to put it under, anonymise or orphan them, it doesn't matter, just please, please, PLEASE, do not delete them. Please. Even if you think they're badly written, or out of character, or a decade old, or 'cringe', or whatever, there will be some poor schmuck out there who loves what you've written and will cry over its deletion because they forgot to download it. - Sincerely, some poor schmuck who loves what someone wrote and has spent the last ten hours trying to track it down because he forgot to download it.
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bluberrypiez · 14 days ago
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OHHHH I'm not sure if anyone here has heard about this, but it looks like build a bear is releasing a line of weighted bears this month on the 21st!!!
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goodluckdetective · 2 years ago
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The reason Tumblr is more hostile to Twitter folks than Reddit folks is because, in my observation, a lot of shitty people (think folks who fucked up so bad in such buckwild ways that there is at least a fanlore page on the subject) of Tumblr circa 2015-2018ish? A lot of them all migrated to Twitter after the porn ban.
The hostility has nothing to do with where folks are coming from and more a fear of old monsters returning to the hunting grounds when we thought we’d finally rebuilt.
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blondebrainpowered · 12 days ago
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A message from Anthony Bourdain.
By bymaximise on Instagram
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peapodsplace · 10 months ago
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Hey Baba, it seems like you've been seeing a lot of yucky stuff online right now. A lot of people who aren't remembering their manners and are forgetting that there's people behind a screen. I know you like your screen time but please remember that the world isn't all like that okay? Some people are different online and forget their values and let's remember that these days, algorithms perpously show you things that'll make you upset. Yes, yes it's not very fair, is it sweetheart. Please remember to take some breaks and that the world isn't really like that. It's so important to protect yourself. Yes, silly even if you think you don't deserve it; because you do.
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pinkeoni · 2 years ago
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streddit is such an interesting place because I’ve never seen a community that was so active in their fandom that so adamantly rejects what is happening on screen. Like it’s not a case of GA who watch the show casually so they may not pick up on certain things— it’s fans who frequently engage with the show, the supplemental books and comics, fan material, but they also so adamently ignore surface level canon material if it doesn’t match the version of the show they built in their head. They are too involved to be GA and let they know less than actual GA
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dia-viller · 4 months ago
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What did Menoa Tree take away from Eragon?
That has to be something important because the tree wanted to kill Eragon and Saphira, and it was so mad at them
(Eragon still can use magic and has all his memories, so it has to be something else)
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nanjokei · 2 years ago
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further guidance for newcomers coming from reddit
hi arriving redditors. here are some things i don't see most posts mention. this is for people who conquered the baby steps of joining the site. i think they're pretty important! also me clarifying on some stuff i've seen people word very vaguely consistently in their guides
under the cut because it's a chunky set of bullet points! with a few that also discuss how to keep yourself in a safe and fun browsing environment for yourself and others (mostly quality of life)
if you have any questions either send me an ask (anonymously is ok too) or reply to the post
you can enable a custom theme that shows on the web in your blog settings, if you so wish (blog settings > visibility) and then (custom theme toggle to on) this is the classic tumblr experience, but it's ok to want to hide your blog from the public. however you won't be able to link stuff on your blog to people without tumblr accounts
you can find custom tumblr themes by searching resource blogs like theme hunter or just in the tags in general (like "tumblr theme" or just "theme" and see where the other tags you may find to refine your search takes you)
tumblr is currently trying to enact changes to appeal to "new users" that make the website less friendly to its current inhabitants, such as fucking with quality of life and muscle memory and even stuff integral to the culture of the site. if you see people complaining, i highly advise against going "this sounds kind of nothingburger" and assisting in sending tickets to support the drive against such changes
there is a 250 post per day limit. you probably won't hit it though.. maybe? but people used to make post limit blogs (seperate email) for that. but that is for heavy usage users.
you can make as many sideblogs as you want. you are free to divulge whether or not it's you. of course use common sense to gauge whether or not it matters. but side blogs can be anything: maybe you want to categorize things, maybe you wanna make one into a huge fan page/blog for a specific hobby/celeb/show/game/etc, maybe a quieter space, maybe posts you feel don't belong on your blog, maybe even a blog where you reblog resources to exclusively. the possibilities are endless! (maybe not for porn, it's a little harder to skirt by these days even with muh community labels)
a lot of posts are incredibly vague about whether or not you can leave comments on reblogs. i think it truly depends. for example, if it's praise for artwork, i feel like it is truly best left in the tags. the artist can see it still! it shows up in their notifs when you reblog. in comparison, when it comes to funny text posts and pictures, you can comment as you like, but consider TPO (time place occasion). it helps to check the notes (comments only filter) to see if the quip or comment you wanna make has already been made or if OP made further comments later. again, it's a call to use your judgement and everyone has a different tolerance for this kind of thing
i see many people or perhaps most came from LGBTQ+ centric subreddits so i am surprised i'm not seeing this mentioned often: there are unfortunately a lot of terfs here. please stay safe. install shinigami eyes and engage in blocking sprees whenever possible.
in account settings, not blog settings, there is a section called "content you see". it has filtered tags and filtered post content. the difference is filtered tags is specifically for tags, for example, if you want to hide a certain show you don't like, you can have the site apply a peek-a-boo filter on it (this content contains #TAG, as in click to view). you ask, what if the person on my dash doesn't tag it as that? that's fine! it also takes into account the original poster's tags. the OP didn't tag it? then filtered post content might help. MIGHT. it's pretty helpful and unlike twitter's mute list, as far as my experience, it is not broken. for example, if you write [SHOW NAME THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE] in plain letters (with aliases as seperate entries just to be safe) it will filter any post that has the words in the body of the post. pretty useful! use this to curate your dash further or even filter out triggers.
speaking of tags. a lot of people are also vague about this. i'll say it clearly. you can add whatever tags you want to a reblog. there's no limit (aside from character lim per tag)! there's no social faux pas, unless you're being backhanded at someone's creative work, like reblogging just to dunk on it or going "i like the art but not the character" etc. when it comes to your own posts, try to avoid tagging irrelevant tags (for example, if you're making a lot of posts that are tangentially about cardcaptor sakura, think about if it belongs in the tag or not. think of it as whether or not it deserves an OC flair on reddit). again, people's tolerance differs, but especially on older media and slow tags people do not appreciate random tangential text posts (for example "i wanna watch ccs!" and nothing else)
in terms of culture, tumblr has a weird balance between "you can ask for context" and "lurk for 10,000 moar years". i would not know myself. i've been here for 12+ years *shrug* you'll have to gauge it for yourself. most things you can google "[tumblr user] callout" and figure out from there LOL (yes that's usually what happens). i DO encourage trying to garner it from context, especially for terms.
due to the looser moderation(?) on here, LGBTQ+ and other minorities use their own discretion reclaim slurs freely. join in, or put the slurs in your filters. it's fine not to join in as that's your personal comfort, but this is a heads up that the culture is like this since i'm not sure how the moderation is in places like r/196 are. (sorry i used reddit for entirely different things ><)
DO NOT TAG D0NATION POSTS WITH #D0NATION OR ANY OTHER VARIATION. this is SO important. it's best not to tag donation posts AT ALL. tumblr internally flags them and suppresses the post. just reblog silently (d0nate if you can) and move on (censoring just in case lol)
search is useless for finding specific posts. give up before you even try. your best bets are google, asking for help on the dashboard, or just hoping it shows up on your dashboard one day (it probs will, maybe not immediately when you need it though)
i called old tags "slow" but not dead earlier: tags Do Not Die (though some just kind of randomly get wiped or lose posts, idk, it is some post-2018 indexing weirdness) so you can find fanart and posts from 2012 and it's ok to reblog! the essence of tumblr is the continued circulation of people's creations
please do not repost screenshots of tumblr posts unless they are no longer accessible (reblogs locked for example) 😭 i am seeing this happen already. this is the one thing from reddit you're gonna have to let go of. twitter and other place screenshots are OK (probably, some people don't like them). but don't let your page look like one of those r/(etc) post aggregate bots on twitter is what i'm saying. once you explore a tag enough times you'll know what is usually appropriate to post (usually derivative meme templates are OK, but don't overdo it (tho this just falls under "dont spam") (also this is MY personal preference, so if the climate of the tag houses a lot of memes, go ahead!)
in general reposting content that isn't your's is kinda eh. especially reposting people's art without explicit permission. there are art reposters who in the modern day usually ask for permission, of course there are internet spelunkers who repost content from old web and dead sites. there's a lot of nuance, but i highly discourage reposting things you didn't make yourself unless it's stuff like official art and whatnot. photography and other stuff from other people, use your judgement. and as an aside i know "stolen memes" are r/196 and other meme subreddit cultures but it's not exactly appreciated here and i feel like if the reposting gets out of hand tumblr users might get real tired of it. the humor isn't really the same here in that sense, i suggest posting them in a sideblog that archives such things so they aren't lost and/or keeping them in your community tags. ofc no one can stop you!! but the whole highly derivative fried meme thing is very reddit. the culture could not be more different even if we are similar in many ways. i mean this in the nicest way possible >_< if you're not sure, DON'T REPOST.
this is just advice from me, but when liveblogging a show, it's nice to tag it with a unique tag, such as #[your name/nick] plays [game]. i find it's ok to tag series name to some posts that are more substantial, people are happy to see others enjoy what they love, but using a unique tag also helps people track YOUR liveblog since they may save the tag to look at :)
put your age or whether or not you're an adult somewhere where people can see, (and your pronouns too or lackthereof). whether or not if it's on your bio, or an about page, or a carrd. please. it's a matter of curation and safety. some people don't wanna follow minors by accident and vice versa, just as a means to curate their space
people write alt text and image descriptions in the post bodies pretty often. yes it's built into tumblr, but either some people forget or the feature... refuses to work that time. yes it's BROKEN. if you feel like you can contribute alt text for an image in an adequate fashion, go ahead!
try not to reblog people's personal posts. asking people never hurts!
you can restrict non-followers from replying to your posts, or turn off replies all together. as far as i know it's not possible for seperate posts unfortunately, just a blog-wide toggle. when replying to someone specifically, be sure to @ them so they can see it!
for a long time, only the first 5 tags you used in an original post mattered. a lot of people still repeat this, but in my experience this seems to have... changed?? i can't say for sure, but my posts appear in tags beyond the first five. just to be sure, tag the most relevant things first! (or not, if you have your own strategy LOL)
you're free to not tag trigger warnings (it's nice to do it for others tho especially if they ask) but please tag flashing images as such. #epilepsy warning, #flashing, #flashing image, #flashing, etc.
REPORT BOT BLOGS. it blocks them for you anyway. just blocking doesn't do anything for anyone
you can add other people to a sideblog to make it a group blog. this is how blogs with mods work, or even collectives, it has a lot of uses in general so have fun with it! be wary it requires getting someone's email so be safe about that and try to do it with people you trust.
this is advice from me since i noticed after publishing this post that a lot of reddit users don't tag things. you don't have to btw!! but my advice that brightens up the website: if you reblog cool art, writing, music or photography (taken by OP) and you like it a lot, i highly recommend leaving compliments in the tags. we live in an age where creative creation is increasingly unappreciated and people are quiet silent— creators get no feedback therefore no encouragememt to keep creating. this is more like a personal plea, but like to reblog ratios have become DIRE. people are apathetic and scared to interact with people's creations even though on here they are actively ecouraged to. if you like art or fic etc i even more highly recommend you reblog it. likes don't do anything! reblogs = more eyes on it. let's support each other's creative endeavors đŸ©·
don't fall for the trap of trying to make tumblr into reddit, or trying to recreate the feeling of a subreddit. it's not gonna work. try to adapt. it's easier said than done but lol. rome wasn't built in a day. operate your blog like your own space rather than trying to recreate a hub. the tolerance for trying to change tumblr culture is super low and a lot of people who are much meaner than me will probably try to bully the idea into the ground. and people DO get mean. (like playground namecalling, but people have no reservations about it, so it's stuff that would probably get you banned on reddit)
if your post gets traction and the note notifications annoy you, deleting the original post will make the notifs stop coming. a lot of people reblog the post to keep it on their blog then delete the original to effectively "mute" the notifications permanently.
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