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43. undone if it speaks to you <3
Getting back to these because I have a lot of fleeting half ideas I need to get rid of to focus on the Cap Buck series. This once again got longer than I meant it to so happy new year.
It takes Eddie about half an hour to realize Buck and Tommy are actually having a drawn out argument, right here in public, instead of just bickering the way he's so used to.
It's...strange.
The thing is he's always seen Tommy with a lid on it - he projects a certain image in a public, and a slightly less restrained image in private, and Eddie is absolutely certain the Tommy he knew six months ago would have rather eaten a live scorpion than air his shit out in such a public setting.
He supposes six months into their second at bat and Tommy's a little less concerned about laying a bunt.
It's subtle, is the thing. Eddie has had screaming matches with Buck in very public places before, he knows the usual script. Emotional land mine after emotional land mine exposed to whoever's in hearing distance, no holds barred, knock down, drag out shit. It's probably why it takes him so long to notice, because this is some fucking terrible amalgamation of Buck and Tommy at their worst and he is not a fan.
Hen goes to get another round with a raised brow in Eddie's direction that means she's definitely noticed too and will be taking her damn time getting back.
Chim's too busy staring all moony-eyed at a ready-to-pop Maddie absolutely killing her karaoke song to care when Tommy grimaces and rolls his jaw while Buck whispers something Eddie doesn't quite catch.
Eddie takes a drink. Then another.
He's down to the ice in his rocks glass.
"You aren't seriously trying to argue that projected stats have more weight than a full career, are you?" Tommy asks, and Eddie sort of wants to hit them both, because what? What? This whole thing started when a song reminded Buck that Tommy had once implied he didn't have enough gay experience to really love Tommy. Or. That was the gist, according to Buck. Famously not a reliable narrator in high emotion moments, but Tommy's never outright denied it, to Eddie's knowledge.
"I'm just saying, Gretzky's goal record is gone, so how can you say people with a decade of play left in them can't be in the conversation to surpass him? Statistically -."
Tommy's eyes glint. He looks mad.
When he stands from his seat, Buck throws both arms in the air. "Yeah, walk away," he spits, and Tommy, two steps towards the restroom already, spins on his heel with clenched fists.
Eddie has a sudden, clarifying memory of Buck reading off the statistics for couples who make it past the first six months. First year. First two, and five. Statistics for couples who took a break. Statistics for gay men, specifically, when he realized his sample size was skewed too straight.
Jesus Christ, he'd rattled those off to Tommy, too.
"I'm not subjecting Eddie to the shit I have to say to you right now, Evan," Tommy says, jaw clenched, hands digging into his pockets. He rocks back on his heels, tension fucking rolling off of him.
Buck stands too. Makes a sweeping gesture that seems to piss Tommy off more, and then they're both disappearing into the crowd.
Hen sets a new drink down in front of Eddie twenty seconds later.
"Thank you for leaving me to witness that by myself," Eddie manages, with a wry twist to his smile, and Hen grins back.
"Their foreplay sure has kicked it up a notch," she says, and Maddie crinkles her nose as she drops back into the booth beside Chim.
"If Jee hadn't been there they'd have screwed in my bathroom last week, I just know it."
Eddie shakes his head between them. "They - you guys know they were fighting, right?"
Maddie raises a brow at him like he's cute. Like a cute confused little puppy. Oh he hates that.
"Tommy deciding one of them dying was the only way they'd be free of each other has opened up a whole new world of ways for Buck to get his rocks off," Hen intones, like it's obvious. "This is just their flirty bickering turned up to eleven."
Eddie takes about twelve minutes to digest that - just long enough for Hen and Chim to get a duet in, long enough for him to drain another drink, long enough for Maddie to decide the baby's officially tapped out for the night, long enough for Chim to grab their jackets and toss a few bills on the table before he's herding his wife out the door.
Tommy rounds the corner and settles back into his seat looking decidedly more relaxed. There's at least one less button hooked on the flannel he's been wearing all night. It takes Eddie a second to register that his face is a little dewy, like he'd recently splashed water on it.
Hen makes a face a second before Eddie gets it.
"Oh come on, man."
Tommy's lips twist into a grin, and he yelps when Hen kicks out at him under the table. "Low hanging fruit, Kinard."
"I mean, one of us did," Tommy manages with a shrug, and only winces at the second kick.
Buck slides in next to him with a fresh beer for each of them and slaps a hand high on Tommy's thigh. Possessive. Still clearly a little riled.
"Yep, I'm out," Hen murmurs, and Eddie scrambles after her.
#bucktommy#bucktommy microfic#tommy has not had a public argument since he lived with his father#gimme tommy deciding bucks worth the fucking mortification of airing shit out in front of strangers#give me buck realizing tommys not gonna leave over a tiff and actually the make up sex is great so sometimes he picks a dight just to see#yes i am trying to curse ovi with the take that Gretzky's record gets broken this season#fight me about it
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a more domestic topic ... Smith butting heads with one of the locals.
#Cuphead#Cuphead: Don't Deal With the Devil#Cuphead: DDWTD#CDDWTD#CDDWTD Cagney Carnation#CDDWTD oc#Cuphead oc#CDDWTD Smith#fizzles draws#for the record i think cags is wrong about the argument 😤 property line ends at the trees#property lines are a funny thing to get up in arms about i think HJGKF#the next day smith gets an axe from the shed and carries it with him while he works and shoots dirty looks at the daisies that get too clos
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🗣️ Darlin', you give love a bad name
Found this in my old wip folder and it feels now more relevant than ever :)
Also these don't know why I never uploaded these they were just sitting there completely finished:
#good omens#crowley#aziraphale#michael sheen#david tennant#good omens fanart#go fanart#good omens tv#go tv#my art#other relevant lyrics include#an angels smile is what you sell you promise me heaven then put me through hell#and#your very first kiss was your first kiss goodbye#:D#for the record I am on team 'they are both wrong bc crowley can't keep trying to solve problems by spiriting his angel away to the stars'#like maybe your arguments should be more elaborate than 'lets just run away together'#like idk for example don't just say 'heaven is toxic' maybe give some reasons for that#MAYBE tell him what happened during aziraphale's 'trial'#or what actually happened with gabriel#u know#communication.
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"we need more wlw pairings where the characters dislike each other at first" you guys couldn't even handle lumity
#for the record i know everyone loves them but i remember all those arguments calling them 'abusive'#in a few years they're gonna get the c//tradora treatment tbh#<- filtering just in case#lumity#luz x amity#amity x luz#toh#toh spoilers#the owl house#cw shipping#romance mention#I NEED MORE WLW
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im sure it's been said already but the whole 'white tumblr users can't handle rap' thing keeps repeatedly making me realize that the people who complain about rap music being too violent or sexual just clearly haven't actually given it a shot and are parroting excuses they've heard used by other people. obviously there is a lot of violent sexual bragadocious etc rap music and there's nothing wrong w that, but some of the most famous/iconic Scary Violent Rap Songs I can think of aren't even about promoting violence. like fuck the police for example. i can guarantee that the same people who cite their reasoning for disliking it being that it's too raunchy and violent or whatever still listen to shit like i can't decide or bust your kneecaps + will wood despite 90% of his music being violent or having sexual connotation or both
#just rhinking out loud. not looking to get into arguments#i also like will wood & the two songs cited. for the record
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🕸️Kirbtober 2024 Day 2: Revenge 🕸️
(ID: Kirby series fanart of Dark Meta Knight and Taranza, the latter looming behind the former with violent intent in his four front-facing eyes, his six hands clenched into shaking fists and curled into claws and raised over his head to conjure a pair of glowing spiderwebs. Meanwhile, the knight stands in blissful ignorance in the foreground, a mug of steaming coffee in one hand, a rolled-up newspaper in the other, glancing off in confusion as a thought bubble over his head reads, “Why do I hear boss music?” END ID.)
Based on the implication from KTD’s Dededetour! that DMK might be responsible for Sectonia’s corruption, indirectly or otherwise.
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Started on 08/30/24, finished on 08/31/24. | Kirbtober 2023 Comp
#veins art#veins fanart#kirby series#kirby#dark meta knight#taranza#kirbtober#kirbtober 2024#day 2#revenge#paintpanic#triple deluxe spoilers#<- (kinda?)#images seen seconds before disaster#you corrupt a guy’s love interest ONE time and he holds it against you forever smh#(for the record… I think the situation is more *complicated* than whatever knee-jerk assumptions Taranza might make in his grief)#(and that the fault lies with both DMK *and* Taranza to some extent…)#(as well as whatever issues Joronia herself might’ve had that the corruption simply exacerbated)#(heck you could even make the argument for Dark Mind being the root cause! his influence on the Mirror lingering even after his demise)#(like I said... complicated. and narratively compelling!)#(we love a little bit of speculation wiggle room in this house)#veinsfullofstars
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Me: I'm not really into enemies to lovers
Marinette and Chloe: *are like that in the movie*
Me: *intense nervous sweating*
#for the record I'm a bullying victim so don't you dare throw those ''you don't understand why this ship is bad'' arguments at me#ladybug and cat noir the movie#miraculous ladybug movie#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#miraculous awakening#miraculous the movie#miraculous movie#ml movie#ml movie spoilers#ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#chloe bourgeois#chloenette#chlonette#personal
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[ID: a drawing of pye from outer wilds, standing with her writing staff. she's wearing an orange nomai space suit without the helmet, and she has a light brown face with curly darker brown fur. end ID]
figuring out how i want to draw the nomai, so here's a pye since i am obsessed with her !!!
#outer wilds#pye#she was one of the easiest to start recognizing across text because she is involved in so many different things#but then i saw the scroll where she was calculating trajectories to the sun station and i Was in love immediately#and i love that the sun station was designed (by the game artists not by pye) to look more weapon-like than anything else the nomai built#as a way to show how it goes against their nature to do something so destructive and high risk#and since pye is the one kind of leading that and being so vocally For it it implies that she is also acting against nomai nature#but i dont think thats necessarily true!! a majority of the nomai agreed or else the idea would have been voted down#(even tho it did spark arguments)#and the oldest nomai recording we have access to is from escall making a split second decision to warp to an unknown place#just to follow a signal the group was curious about and it put them in danger!!! that killed people!!!#like i know its more about the potential damage to the solar system and the life there but#throwing caution to the wind for scientific discovery is very much nomai nature From What I Saw !!!#not that i am saying the game creators are wrong lmao but i mean like. i think it is against their nature AND so very exactly their nature#at the same time and thats why there Was so much debate about it#and i think pye is the embodiment of trying Everything Possible (and impossible) to find answers and learn#AND SHE IS SEXY FOR IT#ANYWAYS. clears throat#blow up that sun girl hashtag women in stem
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y'all go from being feminists to tearing these women down within seconds oh my god it's 2024 can we please stop viciously tearing one woman down to bring another up i don't care what side you take but saying vile shit about either woman and their music is disgusting, please grow up
#seperate the art from the artist please oh my god#for the record i like both billie and taylor#the variants being a major thing but i know thats not to hurt billie like yall say its it's to get more money (which she doesn't need????)#like let people have opinions oh my god its not that deep#and some of yall (not naming names yk who you are) went from loving billies new album to saying the most vile shit within a second which is#+shallow as fuck please learn to separate the art from the artist#you're allowed to dislike someones music but dragging them down as a person is shameful and not something to be proud of#and some of the shit ive seen said recently is disgusting please think before you speak#and ill be honest the swifties are saying most of the horrible stuff#i love taylor as much as you guys but it is not an excuse to say disgusting shit about other women please find something better to do+#+with your time#most of my mutuals are swifties but tbh if youre offended by me saying not to drag women down then i don't want you following me anyways#luc posts#billie eilish#taylor swift#i will not rant about my hatred for the variants and consumerism thats a post for another day#also have yall considered that this whole argument thing is pr so they can both get more streams. bc uh that was my first thought ngl#edit like 10 minutes later: i read an article and yall are blowing shit out of proportion it is literally not that deep omg
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What would have happened if Donnie had actually told Splinter about anything that was going on with his brothers? Would he have actually believed Donnie at that point?
Also, what would Splinter have done if he had come home while the guys were attacking Donnie? Like, he was heading home early and heard Donnie screaming for him, only to find Leo actively trying to murder him?
i think splinter would have.... trouble believing it, but if donnie came to him, distressed and crying, he would have put it aside to figure out the problem. i think initially he'd think he was exaggerating, but he knows SOMETHING'S going on, because it's very rare donnie gets this openly upset (its very rare he does with HIM; splinter doesn't realize HOW severed their relationship is. he didn't until this was all over) and if donnie was actually driven to a point to open up completely, he would have had to be INCONSOLABLE. he'd confront them, they'd brush it off, he'd grow suspicious by their clear callousness and refusal to take responsibility; not sure where it'd go from there, but splinter would be in his corner.
and if he'd walked in on the murder attempt, he would have defended donnie immediately. splinter would never, ever actually want to hurt his boys EVER (the most he'll do is lightly, harmlessly whack them, but it's never enough to actually hurt) but with one of their lives on the line he would have put it aside. i have no idea how it would have gone if the murder attempt actually FAILED or they were defeated; honestly, they'd probably be unnervingly casual about it, even when called out or confronted, and that is some terrifying shit to imagine. donnie if he were still awake would be clinging to his dad and wailing until he physically fucking couldn't anymore, and when confronted leo would just be like "lmao why are you so mad at me who cares. its just donnie." horrendous
#ask#canary continuity#for the record donnie was so vague the first time that splinter didnt suspect anything#he just thought they had an argument. they do that all the time. they make up#donnie has dragged him into harmless arguments before especially when they were younger#but if donnie came to him saying “they were screaming at me and hitting me” YEAH HE'D BE WORRIED
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group of deranged morally ambiguous capitalists go camping (and go feral over condiments)
#susie and taranza get into dumb arguments a lot while magolor ends up playing middle man#nooo this has nothing to do with the intrinsic magic vs technology that their games exemplify with magolor being a perfect blend of both#susie threatens to turn everyone into a robot at least once a day#for the record i like my hotdogs plain and dry. im very basic i know#kirby series#susie haltmann#susanna patrya haltmann#susie kirby#taranza#magolor#veves ultra cool art
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Oh nooo she’s not a good person!! She is manipulating them! She’s a terrible person exploiting the fact he is depressed and the entire family is in shambles!
I DARE YOU TO FIND A MORE COMPELLING STORYLINE. give me messy evil people I don’t need a morality lesson. Especially when until now she hasn’t harmed the family in any way
#the only valid argument is the sister’s storyline bc you neeeeeed to be careful with EDs and a storyline like that#and korea has a bad bad track record#the atypical family#lyde vs kdramas
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regis casually suggesting they desecrate tir ná beá arainne, an ancient and sacred elven mausoleum, just because he wanted to see what was up inside
#he may not have a criminal record but this is because he has escaped the record#honestly soooooo effing satisfying that avallac’h was like ‘you humans you smash everything’#and then next book regis is like ‘what if we… you know… smashed it’#and the fact that regis also takes the same side of the argument as ciri did against auberon#excerpt#c: regis#the witcher books#book: lady of the lake
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The Great Jonathan Byers Conspiracy
(Or, Jonathan was framed and I'm going to prove it)
So I started a rewatch of the show and I'm on episode two of s1. I get to the part towards the end where Jonathan is taking photos of Nancy. So I think "Okay. This is the part where we see Jonathan take a photo of Nancy topless, right? We see him notice Nancy take her top off and then raise the camera to take another photo, right?"
But that's not what happened
The scene happens as follows. We see Jonathan snap a photo of Nancy— with her shirt on— before the scene cuts inside of Steve's room.
Nancy then removes her top. Nancy and Steve start making out and we cut back to Jonathan who lowers his camera.
This is the part where I expected Jonathan to lift his camera up and start taking more pictures. That's how I remember it happening. But no, we instead see Jonathan focus his attention back to the pool and snap a picture of Barb instead.
So what the hell? Am I being gaslit?
I remember so distinctly a moment where we see Jonathan consciously raise the camera to take another picture of her topless, and yet it's not there. I do still want to clarify however, that the topless photo of Nancy does still exist. We see it clearly in the following episode. So yes, Jonathan did still take a photo of Nancy topless, we just don't see him take it.
But according to a lot of people online, we did see it, the Duffer Brothers just removed it.
I remember hearing about this when it first cropped up, which was partially prompted by the Duffers joking to "George Lucas" Will's birthday in season 2, which they never ended up doing anyway. They also stated on Twitter that no scene had ever been digitally edited, and didn't plan to in the future.
So the Duffers must be lying, right? Otherwise why how would so many people remember seeing that scene? I guess there’s no way to be sure without a DVD or Blu-Ray of the show.
But wait, I have a DVD of season one. I got it for Christmas! But I’m staying at my parents house and I don’t feel like driving three hours just to prove a point. I guess all is lost for the moment.
Unless…
It was at this part of my spiraling that I sent a crazed two minute voice memo at 11:00 at night to my roommate and good friend @lemonsoured filling him in on my conspiracy, and then leaving instructions to go downstairs, locate my season one DVD on the living room shelf, put the DVD into my PS4, go to the end of episode two and take a phone recording of the scene in question.
And lo and behold, the scene of Jonathan taking pictures of Nancy, exactly as it appears on Netflix.
So I am aware that in the video there isn’t much to indicate that this is in fact a recording of the DVD and not a recording of the Netflix version, so you’ll just have to take my word for it. But still, ask any DVD or Blu-Ray owner for what is on their disk, and I can garuntee that they’ll all give the same answer.
Because the shot of Jonathan taking the photo of Nancy never existed. The Duffers aren’t lying. The masses collectively lied to themeselves.
But how did this happen? How did a massive audience full of people, including myself, come to believe that there was a moment of Jonathan consciously taking that photo?
I’ll tell you why. It was a psyop to defame character!
Usually when a new season of Stranger Things rolls around, there comes the flow of comments on twitter saying “Hey, remember when Jonathan took a photo of Nancy changing and now she’s in a relationship with him?” which is usually done in the name of trying to bring down Jonathan and build up Steve.
And I’m not doing this to try to claim that Jonathan is a completely innocent baby who actually did nothing wrong. After all, the topless photo does still exist and as @notmybabies pointed out in the replies of one of posts, Jonathan chose to go through the process of developing it anyway. So he’s not completely off the hook. If the Duffers did want to eradicate Jonathan’s faults, then they would have digitally edited the topless Nancy photo to a different one, something that would have been possible.
But you ever notice how it’s always “Jonathan is a creep” and never “Steve called Nancy a slut and Jonathan a queer?”
I adore Steve, but what I’m trying to see is people seem to try and diminish the depth and complications of both of these characters, and it usually results in fans making Jonathan out to be a sex depraved pervert who has always had it out for Nancy, while Steve is their angel who could do no wrong. Steve couldn’t have had a good redemption arc if there wasn’t a place for him to grow from!
They never want to acknowledge that Jonathan was a lonely kid who made a bad mistake which he apologized for while looking for his brother and that Steve was a different person before he decided to change. Eliminating these character’s depths is eliminating what makes them interesting characters! Neither are completely pure and neither are completely evil!!
So in conclusion:
#there was also the argument in some of these articles that ‘since the photo exists that must mean that a scene was cut!’#so you need to be told everything?#also i feel like people are going to skip over the part where i add nuance but whatever it happens#also listen i know this has probs been pointed out before but i had a whole meltdown about this last night lkay#jonathan byers#jancy#stranger things#also thank you jules lemonsoured for that meme lmao#AND for recording the video you are a lifesaver and that was a wacky request#byler#<- target audience
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The two reactions to the character of Glen Stubbins:
Glen Stubbins is actually Ben Glenroy. He secretly switched places with his stunt double before the double got pushed down the elevator shaft and the rat hallucinations are from his near death experience.
Glen Stubbins is an offensive stereotype and I want him off my screen.
#i mostly see the former on reddit and the latter on tumblr#for the record i'm neither#i'm firmly team ben is dead#and i'm not irish and don't have an ear for accents so it doesn't really bother me personally#though i do think it's a strong argument against letting actors do things just because they're famous#(i'm assuming that's how that happened)#only murders in the building#omitb#glen stubbins
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