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“She had been a great lady, wise and gracious and happy, King Caspian's bride whom he had brought home from the eastern end of the world. And men said that the blood of the stars flowed in her veins.” - the silver chair, c.s. Lewis
#I wish I was a writer so I could explore her more that way#narnia#lilliandil#ramandu#I’m working on a rillian design I swear#the voyage of the dawn treader#the silver chair#artists on tumblr#CoN#c.s. Lewis#ramandus daughter#caspian x#fairmer the farmer art#character design#digital illustration#narnia books#narnia fanart
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Speculating Wildly About Liliandil's Parentage
In the VDT movie, Liliandil is a star and comes down from the sky. However, in the books, Liliandil is described as the daughter of Ramandu, a star, and that "the blood of the stars flowed in her veins", but she's never called a star herself. In fact, when she first appears (walking very normally out of a door), she's described as carrying a candle for light; when Ramandu comes out, he's not carrying a candle, because he's glowing himself. All this implies Lili isn't a star, only the daughter of one. Which raises the question: who is Liliandil's mother? Some random theories:
Liliandil's mother is one of the Sea People
Liliandil's mother is a sailor or shipwrecked traveler who found her way to Ramandu's island and fell in love
Liliandil's mother is another star. Lili was born in the skies but chose to accompany her father down to earth when he retired
Liliandil's mother is another star, and assumes human form to visit her husband in the world below sometimes. Lili was conceived and born during one of these visits, and because of this the form most natural to her is human, not whatever a star's normal form is. She has to live with her father until she's older and more skilled at transforming
We shouldn't make assumptions about Ramandu's gender or star biology. Maybe he was pregnant when he retired and didn't realize until he'd already come down to land
Stars don't need a partner to reproduce. Ramandu is Liliandil's only parent
Ramandu is Lili's father in that he gave her life and raised her and loves her but she wasn't "born" per se. He created her magically somehow
Coriakin is Liliandil's mom
#the chronicles of narnia#liliandil#ramandu's daughter#ramandu#coriakin#narnia theories and spitballing#nova actually posts stuff#may make another post another day expanding on that lili's mom is another star in human form one#(lili's other parent? no solid headcanons there but i am rotating thoughts about Star Genders)#because i am having some interesting ideas about it#but i have to develop them further and also see if they end up in a fic i am writing first#anyway for now take these all equally serious theories (✿◡‿◡)#the higher the queuer#edit: for the record i stuck this in my queue before i saw that other post about how does ramandu reproduce someone posted a few days ago#i did not mean to copy#but if you like this go check out that bc the notes are full of great speculation about ramandu splittin like an amoeba
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"Lady," said Caspian, "I hope to speak with you again when I have broken the enchantments." And Ramandu's daughter looked at him and smiled.
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" - C. S. Lewis
#book quotes#the chronicles of narnia#the voyage of the dawn treader#c s lewis#pauline baynes#caspian x#ramandu#smile#enchantments
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The daughter of Ramandu stood beside him as if she had just helped him into his chair; Ramandu stood behind him and laid both his hands on Rhoop's gray head.
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" - C. S. Lewis
#book quote#the chronicles of narnia#the voyage of the dawn treader#c s lewis#ramandu#helping#chair#gray head
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@headspace-hotel Yes, that's a really devastating concept for the children's return in Prince Caspian.
My mother and I both always found the image of all the unexplored pools in the Wood Between the Worlds exciting.
Are you thinking of the Telmarines? The Telmarines came through a portal on an island. The Archenlanders are descended from King Frank V's second son and his followers. The Calormenes are descended from Archenlander bandits.
Yes, there are Roman gods in Narnia, like Bacchus and Silenus, not to mention all the river gods, wood gods, nymphs and fauns. C.S. Lewis considered paganism the precursor to ecstatic Christian spirituality and didn't have an issue with nature gods subordinate to Capital G God.
Yes, stars in Narnia are sentient. The protagonists meet Ramandu, a resting star, and Coriakin, a somewhat fallen star, in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, as well as Ramandu's daughter, who appears to be half human since she's said to have the blood of the stars in her veins rather than to be one herself (unlike in the 2010 movie, where she's a star and named Liliandil). Ramandu's daughter marries Caspian and is the mother of Rilian; she's murdered by the Lady of the Green Kirtle's serpent form. In The Last Battle, the protagonists see all the star-people come down to earth at the end of the world.
@queen-of-carven-stone Lucy or Susan didn't almost marry a star. Are you thinking of when Lucy was forced by the Dufflepuds to go into that manor and reverse the invisibility spell cast on them (by themselves) after they were changed from regular dwarfs called Duffers into monopods by the magician Coriakin, who is a former star being punished for prideful ways by having to govern foolish subjects? There was no forced marriage aspect, though.
I'm not sure whether I read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe in book form first or saw the 1989 TV serial first. The 1989-1990 TV serials of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Prince Caspian, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader and The Silver Chair were very faithful to the books and I recommend seeing them if you're able to, actually. Most scenes are transferred straight from the page to the screen. Great imagery, intros and music, too, very mysterious and evocative, and I can still hear the music as we speak. The same composer did the Brideshead Revisited TV serial, Geoffrey Burgon. I especially loved the winged panther and cockatrice in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Tom Baker (the Fourth Doctor) played Puddleglum in The Silver Chair. Warwick Davis (Willow in Willow and Nikabrik in the 2008 Prince Caspian film) played Reepicheep in Prince Caspian and The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, as well as Glimfeather in The Silver Chair.
narnia has actually way too many completely devastating concepts in it that are not explored At All
#the chronicles of narnia#narnia#chronicles of narnia#lucy pevensie#the lion the witch and the wardrobe#prince caspian#the voyage of the dawn treader#voyage of the dawn treader#the silver chair#silver chair#lww#pc#sc#tom baker#puddleglum#warwick davis#reepicheep#glimfeather#coriakin#ramandu#ramandu's daughter#geoffrey burgon#liliandil#brideshead revisited#the fourth doctor#fourth doctor#willow#nikabrik#vdt#lady of the green kirtle
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five sentence fic asks: Narnia + broken
The silence was broken by Eustace's soft question. "But who exactly is Aslan? Do you know him?"
Edmund looked away over the mossy rocks, and the murmuring stream flashing white through the grey early light, looked out to the sea, to the west, back, back, looking back to the cliffs above the cove, and the shining towers that were no longer, and the great stone slab cracked in two, and he smiled softly to himself.
"Well, he knows me."
#sorry this took awhile#asked and answered#eustace scrubb#edmund pevensie#narnia#my writing#five sentence fics#so this scene is in the book but i've also repurposed it for my meshing of book and movie so for my own purposes this scene occurrs on#ramandu's island after the fight with the sea serpent and breaking of dark island's curse but instead of eustace ending up back in the water#by the dawn treader they limp back to ramandu's island to take stock of everything and search for eustace. and so much of the post-undragon#ing scene between edmund and eustace happens the same way when they find each other before sunrise#and then they restock and repair a bunch of things and keep going#but this is also just perfectly fine to fit in with the book#the voyage of the dawn treader
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the whole aspect of ramandu's daughter is so intriguing to me and it is a pity lewis didn't go further into her lore and her character. seriously? a half-star who lived in a secluded island with a barely-there father and only her star siblings as a company? who watched as voyagers came but never returned? who was immortal, who knew she'd die before her husband/children and still became one of the kindest and most beloved narnia queens?
#Ⅳ 、 ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ ‹ azura (ramandu's daughter) ⠀ ⠀ # ⠀ ⠀ thoughts ›#the good thing is i can write and create her as i want#the bad thing is i wish there was more#named her azura due to azul being blue and she being like the blue-star#she's dearing
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𝑭𝒐𝒓 𝑵𝒂𝒓𝒏𝒊𝒂, 𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝑭𝒐𝒓 𝑨𝒔𝒍𝒂𝒏!
#👑。✧﹡。╰‘𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐐𝐮𝐞𝐞𝐧𝐬 𝐎𝐟 𝐎𝐥𝐝 › self promo#narnia rp#the chronicles of narnia rp#susan pevensie rp#lucy pevensie rp#edmund pevensie rp#peter pevensie rp#caspian rp#prince caspian rp#narnia oc rp#literature rp#multimuse rp#lit rp#lilliandil rp#ramandu's daughter rp#voyage of the dawn treader rp#fantasy rp#oc rp
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Thank you for this wonderful gift!! Great execution of the crossover and perfect Elwing/Earendil!
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien, Chronicles of Narnia - C. S. Lewis Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Eärendil/Elwing (Tolkien) Characters: Elwing (Tolkien), Eärendil the Mariner (Tolkien), Ramandu (Narnia) Additional Tags: the Voyage of the Foam Flower Summary:
On an island in the Encircling Sea, Elwing and Earendil meet a future colleague.
For the always-wonderful Aipilosse, as part of the Candy Hearts Exchange.
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Retired Star and his daughter who live at the last island on the eastern ocean.
Also here’s Ramandu with and without his cloak that I decided he has.
I will draw every single character from this book
#please tell me someone knows these characters from the book#I’d say this is too niche but I’ve already posted some of my crew OCs#fairmerthefarmer art#Narnia#Narnia books#voyage of the dawn treader#so we’ve been there#vdt#chronicles of narnia#is there even a tag for these characters?#ramandu#lilliandil#I actually hate that name from the movie#I can’t place why.#character design#character art#illustration#artists on tumblr#queer artist#reblog#procreate#caspian x#Ik he’s not in this post but technically he becomes her husband at least in the books#my art <3#digital illustration#c.s. Lewis
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hey. hey it's pride month. *throws these at you and then collapses face down on the floor*
Anyway, I'm out of time so please don't look too closely at Liliandil's hair or Eustace's anything or ask why Eustace is still not looking the same direction as everyone else. There are pretty boys everywhere and he is easily distracted, okay? At least he's not staring disconcertingly out of the screen anymore. Lili is deliberately that tall, though; I headcanon her star heritage gives her unusual height.
#narnia rainbow edits#the chronicles of narnia#lgbtq#lucy pevensie#peter pevensie#eustace clarence scrubb#caspian the tenth#liliandil#ramandu's daughter#edmund pevensie#susan pevensie#edit#narnia edits#narnia color edits#my edits#rainbow#nova actaully posts stuff#side note: i am now convinced lili's not actually wearing blue in the movie#i think her dress is white#i think the costume department went with a color that would LOOK the right shade of blue once all the post production color grading was don#and that color turned out to be white#like the reverse of an old movie#evidence: once you edit her back to a normal skin tone her dress is NOT blue#on an unrelated note don't look too hard at lili's dress either#*resumes lying face down on the floor*
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"But let's get on. It can't do any harm, just asking. Let's stand side by side, like this. And we'll hold out our arms in front of us with the palms down: like they did in Ramandu's island—"
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Silver Chair" - C. S. Lewis
#book quotes#the chronicles of narnia#the silver chair#c s lewis#pauline baynes#eustace scrubb#jill pole#side by side#arms out#ramandu
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They halted in surprise when they saw Ramandu and his daughter; and then, because these were obviously great people, every man uncovered his head.
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" - C. S. Lewis
#book quote#the chronicles of narnia#the voyage of the dawn treader#c s lewis#halt#surprise#ramandu#great people
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@reiignonme
"We thought it was going that way from the very start of the first season. Neil Jordan, the creator of the show, denied it from the beginning but we were like "it's all over your writing man." It's in every single line, every single scene: these two are definitely in love with each other. So to me it's really a love story. It came as a natural progression I would say. I didn't judge the characters, it seemed very natural actually." — FRANÇOIS ARNAUD
#fated to be ( caspian & lilliandil )#ramandu's daughter ( lilliandil )#i'm not standing still i am laying in wait ( queue )
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