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fairmerthefarmer · 2 months ago
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“She had been a great lady, wise and gracious and happy, King Caspian's bride whom he had brought home from the eastern end of the world. And men said that the blood of the stars flowed in her veins.” - the silver chair, c.s. Lewis
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supernovasilence · 8 months ago
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Speculating Wildly About Liliandil's Parentage
In the VDT movie, Liliandil is a star and comes down from the sky. However, in the books, Liliandil is described as the daughter of Ramandu, a star, and that "the blood of the stars flowed in her veins", but she's never called a star herself. In fact, when she first appears (walking very normally out of a door), she's described as carrying a candle for light; when Ramandu comes out, he's not carrying a candle, because he's glowing himself. All this implies Lili isn't a star, only the daughter of one. Which raises the question: who is Liliandil's mother? Some random theories:
Liliandil's mother is one of the Sea People
Liliandil's mother is a sailor or shipwrecked traveler who found her way to Ramandu's island and fell in love
Liliandil's mother is another star. Lili was born in the skies but chose to accompany her father down to earth when he retired
Liliandil's mother is another star, and assumes human form to visit her husband in the world below sometimes. Lili was conceived and born during one of these visits, and because of this the form most natural to her is human, not whatever a star's normal form is. She has to live with her father until she's older and more skilled at transforming
We shouldn't make assumptions about Ramandu's gender or star biology. Maybe he was pregnant when he retired and didn't realize until he'd already come down to land
Stars don't need a partner to reproduce. Ramandu is Liliandil's only parent
Ramandu is Lili's father in that he gave her life and raised her and loves her but she wasn't "born" per se. He created her magically somehow
Coriakin is Liliandil's mom
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whats-in-a-sentence · 1 year ago
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"Lady," said Caspian, "I hope to speak with you again when I have broken the enchantments." And Ramandu's daughter looked at him and smiled.
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"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" - C. S. Lewis
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tenth-sentence · 1 year ago
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The daughter of Ramandu stood beside him as if she had just helped him into his chair; Ramandu stood behind him and laid both his hands on Rhoop's gray head.
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" - C. S. Lewis
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giffingthings · 1 year ago
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noybusiness · 3 months ago
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@headspace-hotel Yes, that's a really devastating concept for the children's return in Prince Caspian.
My mother and I both always found the image of all the unexplored pools in the Wood Between the Worlds exciting.
Are you thinking of the Telmarines? The Telmarines came through a portal on an island. The Archenlanders are descended from King Frank V's second son and his followers. The Calormenes are descended from Archenlander bandits.
Yes, there are Roman gods in Narnia, like Bacchus and Silenus, not to mention all the river gods, wood gods, nymphs and fauns. C.S. Lewis considered paganism the precursor to ecstatic Christian spirituality and didn't have an issue with nature gods subordinate to Capital G God.
Yes, stars in Narnia are sentient. The protagonists meet Ramandu, a resting star, and Coriakin, a somewhat fallen star, in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, as well as Ramandu's daughter, who appears to be half human since she's said to have the blood of the stars in her veins rather than to be one herself (unlike in the 2010 movie, where she's a star and named Liliandil). Ramandu's daughter marries Caspian and is the mother of Rilian; she's murdered by the Lady of the Green Kirtle's serpent form. In The Last Battle, the protagonists see all the star-people come down to earth at the end of the world.
@queen-of-carven-stone Lucy or Susan didn't almost marry a star. Are you thinking of when Lucy was forced by the Dufflepuds to go into that manor and reverse the invisibility spell cast on them (by themselves) after they were changed from regular dwarfs called Duffers into monopods by the magician Coriakin, who is a former star being punished for prideful ways by having to govern foolish subjects? There was no forced marriage aspect, though.
I'm not sure whether I read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe in book form first or saw the 1989 TV serial first. The 1989-1990 TV serials of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Prince Caspian, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader and The Silver Chair were very faithful to the books and I recommend seeing them if you're able to, actually. Most scenes are transferred straight from the page to the screen. Great imagery, intros and music, too, very mysterious and evocative, and I can still hear the music as we speak. The same composer did the Brideshead Revisited TV serial, Geoffrey Burgon. I especially loved the winged panther and cockatrice in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Tom Baker (the Fourth Doctor) played Puddleglum in The Silver Chair. Warwick Davis (Willow in Willow and Nikabrik in the 2008 Prince Caspian film) played Reepicheep in Prince Caspian and The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, as well as Glimfeather in The Silver Chair.
narnia has actually way too many completely devastating concepts in it that are not explored At All
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rainintheevening · 6 months ago
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five sentence fic asks: Narnia + broken
The silence was broken by Eustace's soft question. "But who exactly is Aslan? Do you know him?"
Edmund looked away over the mossy rocks, and the murmuring stream flashing white through the grey early light, looked out to the sea, to the west, back, back, looking back to the cliffs above the cove, and the shining towers that were no longer, and the great stone slab cracked in two, and he smiled softly to himself.
"Well, he knows me."
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foulrests · 3 months ago
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the whole aspect of ramandu's daughter is so intriguing to me and it is a pity lewis didn't go further into her lore and her character. seriously? a half-star who lived in a secluded island with a barely-there father and only her star siblings as a company? who watched as voyagers came but never returned? who was immortal, who knew she'd die before her husband/children and still became one of the kindest and most beloved narnia queens?
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principes · 2 years ago
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𝑭𝒐𝒓 𝑵𝒂𝒓𝒏𝒊𝒂, 𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝑭𝒐𝒓 𝑨𝒔𝒍𝒂𝒏!
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aipilosse · 2 years ago
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Thank you for this wonderful gift!! Great execution of the crossover and perfect Elwing/Earendil!
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien, Chronicles of Narnia - C. S. Lewis Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Eärendil/Elwing (Tolkien) Characters: Elwing (Tolkien), Eärendil the Mariner (Tolkien), Ramandu (Narnia) Additional Tags: the Voyage of the Foam Flower Summary:
On an island in the Encircling Sea, Elwing and Earendil meet a future colleague.
For the always-wonderful Aipilosse, as part of the Candy Hearts Exchange.
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wingedflight · 2 years ago
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Masterpost
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fairmerthefarmer · 9 months ago
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Retired Star and his daughter who live at the last island on the eastern ocean.
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Also here’s Ramandu with and without his cloak that I decided he has.
I will draw every single character from this book
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supernovasilence · 6 months ago
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hey. hey it's pride month. *throws these at you and then collapses face down on the floor*
Anyway, I'm out of time so please don't look too closely at Liliandil's hair or Eustace's anything or ask why Eustace is still not looking the same direction as everyone else. There are pretty boys everywhere and he is easily distracted, okay? At least he's not staring disconcertingly out of the screen anymore. Lili is deliberately that tall, though; I headcanon her star heritage gives her unusual height.
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whats-in-a-sentence · 1 year ago
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"But let's get on. It can't do any harm, just asking. Let's stand side by side, like this. And we'll hold out our arms in front of us with the palms down: like they did in Ramandu's island—"
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"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Silver Chair" - C. S. Lewis
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tenth-sentence · 1 year ago
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They halted in surprise when they saw Ramandu and his daughter; and then, because these were obviously great people, every man uncovered his head.
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" - C. S. Lewis
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bcbliophile · 7 months ago
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@reiignonme
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"We thought it was going that way from the very start of the first season. Neil Jordan, the creator of the show, denied it from the beginning but we were like "it's all over your writing man." It's in every single line, every single scene: these two are definitely in love with each other. So to me it's really a love story. It came as a natural progression I would say. I didn't judge the characters, it seemed very natural actually." — FRANÇOIS ARNAUD
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