#radfemally

[jharu-thalren]

The new phenomenon of Young Men commenting "Fatherless behavior" and its deeply harmful roots in already well established Misogyny in Patriarchy:

Comments like "Fatherless behavior" under harmless videos of women and girls enjoying hobbies, expressing themselves, or simply existing—reflects the harmful impact of reactionary misogyny, "alpha male" ideologies, and incel/Redpill worldviews. These movements perpetuate a toxic framework that dehumanizes women and polices their behavior according to regressive gender norms. Below is a breakdown of the issue and its implications.

1. The Root of the Problem: Misogyny and Reactionary Ideologies

Incel and Redpill Ideologies: These movements claim to expose "truths" about gender, portraying women as objects to be controlled and evaluated, often through shallow metrics like appearance, modesty, or behavior. In these spaces, women's hobbies, creativity, or autonomy—such as gaming or cosplay—are mocked or policed as signs of rebellion against male dominance.

Alpha Coaches like Andrew Tate: Figures like Andrew Tate popularize the belief that women who enjoy "male" hobbies (e.g., gaming) or engage in expressive activities (e.g., cosplay) are acting out due to a lack of proper "male control." This mindset underpins comments like "Fatherless behavior," framing women’s joy as improper without a male's "stern hand."

Religious and Conservative Patriarchy: This ideology blames fathers for failing to "discipline" daughters who express themselves creatively or engage in public-facing hobbies. It promotes the idea that women must adhere to modesty, quietness, and submissiveness, invalidating pursuits like cosplay or gaming, particularly if they involve any degree of visible skin.

2. The "Fatherless Behavior" Insult

Underlying Assumption: The phrase "Fatherless behavior" implies that women and girls pursuing hobbies like cosplay or gaming, or dressing in ways deemed "immodest" (even if entirely normal within the context of the activity), lack male guidance to keep them "in line." It reduces their self-expression to a supposed failure of patriarchal control.

Targeting Visible Skin: The criticism often intensifies when women show even minimal skin in cosplay, despite such designs being common for both genders in many fantasy, anime, and gaming genres. Men portraying shirtless or hyper-muscular characters are typically praised, while women are accused of seeking attention or behaving inappropriately.

Double Standards: Men enjoying gaming, cosplaying, or self-expression face no comparable judgment. For instance, a man dressing as a heroic, scantily clad character is celebrated, while a woman in a similar outfit is condemned.

3. Emotional Impact on Women and Girls

Invalidation of Hobbies: Women in gaming communities or cosplay are often accused of "seeking attention" or "trying too hard," as if their interests are inherently performative rather than genuine. This erodes the joy of participating in these hobbies.

Policing of Bodies: In cosplay, women are disproportionately criticized for costumes that align with canonical designs or popular aesthetics, leading to shame around their bodies. Men rarely face equivalent scrutiny for costumes that show off their physiques.

Denial of Fun and Autonomy: Women playing video games, sharing clips, or streaming are accused of being "fake gamers" or "trying to impress men," stripping them of the right to enjoy gaming for its own sake. Similarly, women cosplaying popular characters are met with skepticism or outright hostility, as if their enjoyment requires external validation.

Emotional Exhaustion: Facing constant criticism for harmless behavior—like dressing as a favorite character, gaming, or posting lighthearted videos—can cause women to feel unwelcome, unsafe, and unmotivated to continue participating in these hobbies.

4. Societal Implications

Normalization of Harassment: Comments like "Fatherless behavior" create a toxic culture where women and girls expect criticism or harassment as the price of participating in public-facing hobbies. Over time, this drives women out of gaming, cosplay, and similar communities.

Enforcement of Double Standards: By perpetuating the idea that women must meet stricter behavioral and aesthetic standards, these ideologies reinforce gender inequality. Women are discouraged from engaging in activities deemed "male-dominated," narrowing their opportunities and potential.

Silencing Creativity and Joy: Young girls interested in cosplay, gaming, or other hobbies often withdraw due to fear of being sexualized, mocked, or harassed. This stifles their personal growth and self-expression, impacting their confidence and long-term development.

Encouragement of Toxic Male Behavior: These movements validate and reward men who degrade women online, creating environments hostile not only to women but to any form of inclusivity or equality.

5. Counter-Arguments to Misogynistic Narratives

Women Are Autonomous Beings: Women’s enjoyment of hobbies like cosplay or gaming is a reflection of their individuality, not a failure of male control. Policing their behavior reduces them to objects rather than recognizing them as full human beings.

Rejecting the Policing of Visible Skin: Cosplay often reflects existing character designs from games, comics, or anime. Criticizing women for accurately representing characters with revealing costumes ignores the creative and artistic skill involved in cosplay. The same criticism is rarely leveled at men.

Gaming Is for Everyone: The idea that gaming is inherently "male" is outdated and exclusionary. Women and girls enjoy gaming for the same reasons men do: challenge, storytelling, community, and fun.

Double Standards in Attention-Seeking: Men engage in cosplay or gaming for various reasons, including self-expression and visibility, without being accused of "seeking attention." Women deserve the same freedom without judgment or harassment.

6. Broader Harm to Women and Girls

Erosion of Safe Spaces: Communities like gaming or cosplay become unsafe for women when misogynistic ideologies dominate, leading to fewer women participating in these spaces and perpetuating male-dominated cultures.

Stunted Personal Development: Young girls internalizing this negativity may avoid exploring interests like gaming or cosplay, fearing judgment or harassment. This limits their opportunities to build skills, networks, and confidence.

Societal Regressiveness: The resurgence of traditional gender norms as a response to women’s growing independence harms everyone by reinforcing outdated stereotypes that limit both women and men.

Perpetuation of Misogyny Across Generations: When young boys see such comments normalized, they may adopt these harmful views, perpetuating cycles of sexism and discrimination.

7. How to Push Back Against This Harm

Challenge Sexism in Communities: Call out comments like "Fatherless behavior" as misogynistic and baseless. Explain how they undermine women’s autonomy and perpetuate double standards.

Support Women in Gaming and Cosplay: Amplify women’s voices and achievements in these spaces. Encourage their participation and highlight the skill, creativity, and passion they bring to these hobbies.

Educate About Gender Equity: Promote awareness about the harm caused by these ideologies and the value of inclusivity in all spaces, from gaming to cosplay.

Celebrate Women’s Contributions: Share examples of women thriving in gaming, cosplay, and other male-dominated areas to inspire and validate others.

Conclusion

The rise of misogynistic ideologies from incel culture, Redpill rhetoric, and figures like Andrew Tate has directly contributed to toxic commentary targeting women enjoying harmless hobbies like gaming or cosplay. Insults like "Fatherless behavior" not only perpetuate double standards but actively harm women and girls by invalidating their interests, undermining their autonomy, and creating hostile environments. Combating this requires collective effort to educate, advocate, and celebrate women’s rights to express themselves freely without fear of judgment or harassment.

[nando161mando]

This couldn't have happened to more deserving people

[choicesgoddess]

the craziest thing about being transmasc or a trans man is that people LOVE to say you’re gonna look ugly, gonna turn ugly etc. and personally for a while i bought into this nonsense. but one day i decided fuck it, decided to transition and you know what happened? i still retained the most handsome parts of the person i was before. but i looked happier. i looked more beautiful, more handsome, prettier, stylish, hot. because i finally looked like me & so much happier and confident. anyway, this is just to say - go transition dude, if you’re hesitating. you will only look even more handsome & beautiful, fuck their propaganda.

[rosegardenofeden]

I think retail workers should be able to sit down in chairs and listen to music and goof around and chat with their coworkers and dick around on their phone when they have free time and not have to pay attention to every customer's little whim or be constantly on guard or perform happiness or clean and should be able to make out in the back rooms or go home whenever because theres enough people to cover their shift and just enjoy life and labor a little more. In my opinion

Edit: Terfs fuck all the way off this post forever and die

[marshmellowtea]

i desperately need people to realize there's a difference between "women need to coddle (cis) men's feelings even when they're being misogynistic uwu" and "we shouldn't tolerate misogyny but actively keeping men separate from women and treating them like they're inherently dangerous to women is only going to worsen the problem (and also this mindset causes IMMEASURABLE harm to nonbinary, trans, and intersex people, who are already incredibly at risk right now)" and i need people to realize that NOW

[tracritical]

[inkskinned]

the thing about some men is that they want you to remember, at all times, that you are underneath them. that with one word or look or "joke", you will stay beneath them. that even "exceptions" to the rule are not true exceptions - the commonly cited statistic that one in eight men believe they could win against serena williams.

women's gymnastics is often not seen as real gymnastics. whatever the fuck non-euclidian horrors rhythmic gymnasts are capable of, it's often tamped down as being not a sport. some of the most dominant athletes in the world are women. nobody watches women's soccer. despite years of dancing and being built like a fucking brick, men always assume they're faster and stronger than i am. you wouldn't like what happens when they are incorrect. once while drunk at a guy's house i won a held-plank challenge by a solid minute. the party was over after that - he became exceedingly violent.

what i mean is that you can be perfect, and they still think you're ... lacking, somehow. i hope you understand i'm trying to express a neutral statement when i say: taylor swift was the possibly the most patriarchy-palatable, straight-down-the-line woman we could churn out. she is white, conventionally attractive, usually pretty mild in personality. say what you will about her (and you should, she's a billionaire, she can handle it), but a few things seem to be true about her: 1. she can write a damn catchy song, and 2. the eras tour truly was a massive commercial success and was also genuinely an impressive feat of human athleticism and performance.

i don't know if she deserves the title of "woman of the year," i'm not debating that in this post. what i am saying is that she was named Woman of The Year, and then an untalented man got onstage at the golden globes and made fun of her for attending her boyfriend's football games. what i am saying is that this woman altered local economies - and her dating life is still being made into a "harmless" punchline. the camera panned, greedy, over to her downing a full glass of champagne. congratulations taylor! you are woman of the year! but you are a woman. even her.

fuck, man. write better material.

a guy gets onstage at a college graduation and despite the fact like half the crowd is made up of women, he spends a significant proportion of it warning these people - who spent possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars on their education - that they were lied to. that the "real" meaning of femininity is motherhood. that they shouldn't rest on the laurels of that education-they-paid-for but instead throw it away to kneel at a man's heel. imagine that. sweating in your godawful polyester gown (that you also had to pay for!), fresh out of 4 years of pushing yourself ever-harder: and some guy you've never met - who knows nothing about you - he reminds you this "win" is a pyrrhic one at best. you really shouldn't consider yourself that extraordinary. you're still a woman, even after years of study.

god forbid you are not a pretty woman, but if you are pretty, you must be dumb. god forbid you are not ablebodied or white or cis or straight or good at swallowing. you must be beneath a man, or else they are not a man. the equation for masculinity seems to just be: that which is not a woman or womanly (god forbid). anything "feminine" is thereby anathema. to engage in "feminine" things such as therapy, getting a hug from a friend, or crying - it is giving up ones manhood. therefore women need to be put in their place to ensure that masculinity is protected.

this is something i have struggled to explain to terfs - they are not doing the work of feminism, but rather the patriarchy. by asserting that women and men must be (on some secret level) oppositional and in conflict, they also assume that being a woman is akin to being another species. but bigotry does not stem from observational truths or clarity - that is what makes it bigotry. there was nothing in my childhood that made me fundamentally different from my brother. we are treated differently nonetheless. to assert there is some biological drive that enforces my gender role is to assert that women have a gendered role. men do not see women as equal to them not because of biological reality - but instead because the core tenant of the patriarchy is that women aren't full, realized people.

we are told from a very young age to excuse misbehavior as a single man's choice - not all men. it is not all men, just that one guy. all women are gold-digging bitches who belong in the kitchen - but if a man is mean, bigoted, or violent to you, it's just that particular guy, and that means nothing about men-as-a-whole. it is only one guy who got mad when you gently rejected him. it is only one guy who warns her this trophy is heavy, are you sure you can hold it? it is only one guy who smashes her face into the cake. it is only one guy talking into a mic about hating our bodily autonomy.

i have just found that they often wait until the moment we actually seem to be upstaging them. you sit in a meeting where you're presenting your own findings and he says get me a coffee? or you run to the end of the marathon and are about to finish first and he pushes your kids out in front of you. you win the chess game and they make some comment akin to well, you're ugly away. we can be the billionaire and get the dream life and finally fucking do it and yet! still! they have this strange, visceral urge to say well actually, if you think you're so great -

it's not one just one guy. it's one in eight.

[lifeintheworldtocome]

I LOVE TRANS PEOPLE I KOVE TRANS PEOPLE I LOVE TRANS PEOPLE

[mlmshark]

Mfs will be like “Omg I hate radfems and terfs! They’re awful! Radfeminsim and Terf ideology is bad!!!” And then turn around and be like “All men are evil and bad and all women are pure and good! But it’s okay this time because I’m including trans people!!!!”

[coinswallower39]

[karmelarts]

are y’all gonna stop dickriding neil gaiman now that women have come forward about actual sexual assault, or was the Zionism just not bad enough for you guys

[jharu-thalren]

Me:

can you list me arguments, for the validity of this conserns for Trans activism?

Chatgpt:

Here’s a list of arguments that support the validity of concerns some biological women have regarding certain aspects of trans activism. These arguments aim to articulate why these concerns might be viewed as legitimate by those raising them:

### **1. Access to Women-Only Spaces**

- **Privacy and Safety:** Women’s shelters, bathrooms, and locker rooms were established to protect biological women from male violence and provide spaces free from male presence. Allowing access based solely on gender identity may increase risks, especially if policies are exploited by bad actors.

- **Trauma Considerations:** Women who are survivors of sexual violence may feel unsafe or retraumatized by sharing intimate spaces with anyone they perceive as male-bodied, regardless of that person's gender identity.

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### **2. Fairness in Sports**

- **Biological Advantages:** Scientific studies suggest that trans women who have gone through male puberty retain physical advantages, such as increased muscle mass, lung capacity, and bone density, even after hormone therapy. These advantages can create unfair competition in women’s sports.

- **Loss of Opportunities:** Biological women may lose scholarships, titles, or careers in sports if they compete against trans women with physical advantages.

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### **3. Erosion of Sex-Based Language**

- **Impact on Advocacy:** Redefining terms like "woman" to include trans women may dilute the ability to address sex-specific issues, such as reproductive rights, female genital mutilation, or pay inequity, which affect biological women specifically.

- **Loss of Visibility:** Language changes, such as using “pregnant people” instead of “pregnant women,” might make biological women feel erased in discussions about their unique health and social challenges.

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### **4. Risks of Suppressing Dissent**

- **Chilling Effect on Free Speech:** Women who raise concerns about the impact of trans activism on sex-based rights often face social ostracism, harassment, or job loss, discouraging open discussion.

- **Alienation from Feminism:** Many feminists who prioritize sex-based rights feel excluded or vilified within feminist spaces dominated by gender-identity-focused activism.

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### **5. Safety in Shelters and Prisons**

- **Increased Vulnerability:** Cases have been documented where biological women in shelters or prisons were assaulted by trans women, especially individuals with intact male anatomy.

- **Policy Exploitation:** Open-access policies might be abused by non-trans individuals claiming a gender identity to gain access to these spaces.

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### **6. Concerns About Medicalization**

- **Impact on Young Girls:** Some fear that gender self-identification policies may lead to young girls exploring their identity through medical transition without adequate safeguards or understanding of long-term consequences.

- **Focus on Social Factors:** Critics argue that societal pressures or trauma (e.g., discomfort with puberty or misogyny) influencing girls to identify as trans are not adequately addressed, leading to potentially irreversible medical interventions.

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### **7. Resource Allocation**

- **Stretching Limited Resources:** In some contexts, resources originally designated for biological women, such as shelters or scholarships, are reallocated to include trans women, potentially disadvantaging biological women in need.

- **Healthcare Prioritization:** Critics worry that medical resources (e.g., funding, research) could shift focus from women’s health issues, like breast cancer or maternal mortality, to gender-related treatments.

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### **8. Misalignment with Sex-Based Oppression**

- **Neglect of Biological Realities:** Sex-based oppression, such as violence, reproductive exploitation, or societal restrictions, is rooted in biological differences. Broadening the definition of "woman" might dilute efforts to address these specific issues.

- **Conflict of Interests:** Policies based on gender identity may unintentionally undermine protections built to combat sex-based discrimination.

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### Supporting Examples and Evidence

1. **Documented Cases of Misuse:**

- Reports of individuals abusing gender identity policies to access women-only spaces for harmful purposes.

2. **Sports Disparities:**

- Examples of trans women outperforming cisgender women in sports due to retained physical advantages.

3. **Language Impact:**

- Controversies over terms like “pregnant people” leading to backlash from women who feel excluded from discourse.

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### The Argument for Careful Consideration

These concerns don’t imply opposition to trans rights but highlight areas where competing interests between sex-based rights and gender identity rights arise. Validating these concerns doesn’t negate the struggles of trans individuals but instead calls for nuanced policies and discussions that respect both groups.

[mulattomochaccino]

I can NOT fucking believe i am watching this shit happen in real time.

Overnight I've watched the wiki page for 4B go from a single line of text describing it as a feminist movement and four more lines beneath it explaining the rules, to now it being a several paragraph screed about how it is a terf riddled, transphobic, transwomen hating movement made intentionally and with the sole purpose to stop women from having sex with transwomen.

The article editing history shows this all being done overnight. It also shows it mostly being done by a single user who INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH has been flagged multiple times for getting into editing wars on the CIRCUMCISION and FORESKIN wiki pages!!!! You cannot make this shit up!!

American women only briefly floated the idea that they shouldn't have sex with anyone that can get them pregnant in a time where pregnancy could be a death sentence and like fucking LIGHTNING these folks come out the gate to shut it down in every way possible.

[gremlin-girlie]

The nosferatu red carpet premiere....this is so fucking tragic its almost laughable

Reminds me of the post that said - "if it's so empowering, why aren't the men doing it too?'

[radykalny-feminizm]

I love to see the general public finally waking tf up

Guess what group has been talking about all these things for years and was demonized, shamed and threatend for it 🤔