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Dean, Sam and Castiel devil fruits if they were in One Piece ? Haki ?

I don't think they'd have Devil Fruits. When I drew that Scoobynatural like crossover pic I imagined that their particular skill and powers would be somewhat adapted according to the rules of the world they were visiting.

Since Sam can shout demons into submission I suppose that would translate into Haki. Dean probably too because in a Scoobynatural style AU he'd be the guy who vaguely knows the manga or anime and would therefore know it exists and just tries using it (successfully, though I think he'd be useless in trying to explain how it works). Cas just has Grace that still works, uncomfortably and unreliably though.

In a complete AU then I think Cas might be... I don't know Skypian, Lunerian, another seemingly wiped out race, or a MADs/ Vegapunk creation (he is a seraph after all). Dean's a guy who would reject DFs and rely solely on his power, Haki and marksmanship (like his Marine dad always preached). And Sam would be the one with a Devil Fruit. But I don't know what model. Probably also a mythical zoan due to the danger of being completely absorbed by the will of the fruit (to mimic the demon blood, Lucifer possession thingy).

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Citizens, look what just got published (26 October 2022)!!!

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I'm pretty sure I'll hate the drawing style just as much as I hate the drawing style in their "Robespierre" from the same book series (@quercusfloreal posted pics), and that Saint-Just will look way older than he was (as he does in the "Robespierre" comicbook), but I'm still very curious about this!!!

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JACOBIN FICTION CONVENTION MEETING 19: MADAME SANS-GÊNE (1961)

1. The Introduction

Greetings, Citizens and Neighbors! Welcome to a special Christmas review of the Jacobin Fiction Convention! Today, January 7th, is Christmas in Russia, even though it’s only celebrated by people of Orthodox Christian faith.

But, guess what, I am an Orthodox Christian and I do celebrate this holiday so here is my Christmas present for everyone. This review is dedicated to @saintjustitude , @stalinistqueens , @suburbanbeatnik , @jefflion , @idieonthishill , @theravenclawrevolutionary , @joachimnapoleon , @josefavomjaaga , @tairin , @fountain-ring , @fireortheflood , @michel-feuilly , @taleonne , @janellefeng , @revolutionary-catboy , @revolution-and-football , @spunkyjacobin , @donpishya , @maggiec70 , @edgysaintjust , @quercusfloreal , @aminoscribbles , @elisabeth515 , @robespapier and a newcomer in our Convention, Citizen @jaeee-e !

Okay, now we can begin! Once again, I found a movie that is Napoleonic and FRev- related at the same time! Thanks, IMDb! Apparently there are two movies with this title but today we’re only discussing the 1961 one, with Sophia Loren.

As I’m a big fan of older movies and I really like it when media tackles obscure people, I knew I had to watch this one and review it for both communities!

Unfortunately, most of you will only be able to find it on Amazon Prime Video so it’s not exactly readily available online, but, if anyone manages to dig something that doesn’t require subscriptions up, call me.

Anyway, I’m excited for this so let’s just proceed! On with the show!

2. The Summary

The titular Madame Sans-Gêne is Catherine Lefebvre (née Hübscher), wife of Marshal Lefebvre and Duchess of Danzig.

This is the story of her journey from a simple laundress to war hero to a noble, and of the trials and tribulations that she has to overcome while fighting for her happiness with her beloved husband.

I’m not a fan of love stories for the most part, but let’s take a closer look at this one.

3. The Story

For once, the pacing wasn’t confusing to me! Yay! The movie doesn’t try to squeeze in too much time chronologically and instead it treats us to a couple of time skips where the subtitles on screen and the narrator helpfully explain the historical bullet points to give us the context.

This is awesome, especially for people who don’t know much about Frev and/or the Napoleonic era, as it spares them the unnecessary confusion. Therefore, more people can enjoy this movie.

I also love the fact that, while romance is basically an essential part of the plot, it’s rather skillfully intertwined with quite a bit of action, comedy and even drama.

Besides, for once, I was actually sold on the love story of Catherine and Lefebvre. I’m sure the actors also contributed to this, but I personally actually believed that the main couple actually was madly in love and ready to do anything to stay together. And trust me, they do some truly ballsy shit, especially Catherine. More on her later.

There is also some filler that does a pretty good job at character establishment and character development, but not so much that it becomes unbearable and is just filler.

(Spoiler alert!)

That said, I kind of wish that the main conflict, what with Napoleon wanting to make Lefebvre King of Westphalia on the condition that he divorces Catherine after the latter’s blunt remarks cause a scandal, wasn’t resolved as quickly as it was and just brushed aside, but I still enjoy this certain naïveté.

Not all stories have to be extremely complex thrillers and I still enjoyed it. Sure, the theme of “the power of love” might be cliché, but there’s nothing wrong with exploring it yet again. Love in any form is indeed a universal concept and, let’s face it, sometimes we do need simpler stories such as this one.

There’s also a bit of foreshadowing about Napoleon becoming Emperor that’s a bit too obvious for my tastes, but that’s not a serious complaint.

Alright, let’s look at the characters.

3. The Characters

(Spoiler alert!)

Boy, do I love Catherine here! She is basically the personification of the phrase “old habits die hard”.

Blunt, witty, rude, hardworking and independent, she is not afraid to speak her mind to anyone, soldier or emperor. That said, she is also loyal and caring. She follows her husband to war, cares for wounded soldiers and even gets wounded herself. I also like the fact that her blunt remarks are picked up by the press and provoke a scandal. It shows that our heroine isn’t some Mary Sue who is completely above consequences.

Moreover, she and Lefebvre BOTH wreak absolute havoc in the camp of Austrians, who had captured them earlier and wanted to execute them. Catherine is a fucking badass! Sure, she still displays realistic emotions like fear and sadness, but she is a strong woman who never goes down without a fight.

Her playful banter with Napoleon and Augereau is also genuinely entertaining.

Lefebvre is a badass here too (in real life he took part in the battle of Fleurus, Citizens), but he doesn’t have the courage to stand up to Napoleon at first. It is indeed daunting because Napoleon is the Emperor and can actually make Lefebvre a King and can make him divorce Catherine.

Realistically, Lefebvre hesitates because he genuinely loves Catherine but also doesn’t find the courage to oppose Napoleon...until he does. This is what I like the most about his character in the movie. His hesitation is understandable but he finds the strength to go straight to Napoleon, tell him he can’t divorce his wife and add that he doesn’t need a throne nor his title if it means that he will have to be without his beloved.

I love characters who fight for their happiness no matter what, and I love the way Lefebvre overcomes his fear in the movie. Plus he has a cute kitten here and there’s a sweet scene involving him and Catherine cuddling her.

Napoleon here is actually complex. As a common general, he has playful banters with Catherine and messes around with her, but later he becomes Emperor, gets arrogant as fuck and even has a few really angry outbursts. One of said outbursts is directed at his own siblings when they’re discussing who should get Westphalia.

Napoleon complains that everyone in his family is a leech and they wouldn’t be where they are without him, which is kinda true but it also looks like here the power went to his head.

That said, when he recognizes Catherine and when she manages to convince him not to make the divorce happen, he reverts back to the way he acted with her before - that same witty banter! He even admits his defeat and he and Catherine have a good laugh while remembering the past.

Napoleon’s siblings (Jerome, Caroline, Elise and Pauline) are shown as petty arrogant assholes who try to put Catherine in “her place”. Jokes on them because she wastes no time ranting about how she did more (on the battlefield) than all of them (at home) and how they all would be nobodies had the Revolution not happened so they end up utterly humiliated.

Augereau, Jourdan and Masséna make cameos and Catherine uses them to prove her point how all of them were commoners before.

Augereau playfully pinches Catherine’s ass at one point, but it’s not portrayed as harassment, more as a joking thing on his part. They seem to be quite friendly in this movie.

Last but not least, F**ché. He literally listens to the Bonaparte family while hiding behind a secret door and skillfully manipulates people and situations. But, like the snake he is, he knows all the right words to say and is polite and deceivingly friendly at times.

In general, the characters feel like real people here. They bicker, they talk about their plans for Sunday or the future in general, they overcome conflicts and they all have something interesting about them!

4. The Acting

I really like Sophia Loren here, but almost every single actor does a fantastic job. Nothing but mad respect for that!

5. The Music

I love music in older movies. I don’t know why but it really appeals to me. Plus, they insert revolutionary songs in the beginning, which is a plus in my book!

6. The Setting

The settings and the costumes are gorgeous, even though I’m not sure they’re always accurate. At least the Frev costumes are on point though, as far as I can tell.

7. The Conclusion

I really enjoyed this movie and I low key wish it was available online for free, but I still recommend it. It definitely has a charm to it. Just a nice relatively simple story that manages (at least for me) to be a truly exciting piece of media and makes me happy that I discovered this gem.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed our Christmas meeting. Stay tuned for updates and stay safe, everyone!

Merry Christmas,

- Citizen Green Pixel

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Baby 2 saw Croc making big angry eyes and get everything he want. Baby 2 tried to do the same. It worked not because she's scary but because she's cute.

Haha, works on everyone but Crocodile.

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The last episode reminds me how Luffy looks like Croc when he's really pissed.

Luffy inherited Crocodile's emotion regulation skills X'3

Yeah, they do resemble each other at times, especially when Luffy's angry or disgusted X'D Might just be art style of course but I like to dream.

(And Luffy really resembles Dragon once he switches into gear 4. I think he even loses his eyebrows X'DD)

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During the desert crossing, Vivi was surprised to see Luffy sleeping peacefully in a hole dug in the sand.

Crocodile used to make a sand nest in his bed because Luffy moves a lot when he sleeps.

The warm sand has a soothing effect on Luffy.

;w;

We do have the cover image of Crocodile letting birds play in his sands, so it's possible that when Luffy was still small, Crocodile would partially turn to sand for Luffy to burrow into. ;w; Sand hug!

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Luffy is so clingy that Croc has to promise him a thousand times that he'll come back, then check the inside of his fur coat, then check his suitcase, then check that Bon Clay doesn't fall for Luffy's sad cute face, then check the figurehead on his boat,...

Yes! He'll have to factor in so much extra time just to make sure that Luffy doesn't secretly get on the boat with him.

(I wonder if Luffy is just that clingy with Crocodile or if he's doing the same with Dragon. I could imagine that Luffy is so clingy because Crocodile also have a hard time separating from Luffy.)

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If AU modern Dragon loves motorcycles, then AU modern Croc was a bōsōzoku when he was young.

Revolutionary Army as a biker gang X'D

I know absolutely nothing on biker gangs and had to google bōsōzoku but generally it would be cute if they met because of a common interest~

Maybe they don't have a gang, but Dragon does seem more like a guy who rides a bike than a car. He'd probably leave driving the kids around in a car to Crocodile X'D

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How !? Crocodile can't walk near the sea. This sand must be oversatured with sea salt !

Shhhh~ Don't overthink it~

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Luffy and Dragon meet in Logue Town ;3

(Stinky Child AU~)

Doodle comic inspired by an ask @quercusfloreal sent me!

Dragon nearly suffers multiple cardiac arrests in Loguetown. Luffy : You're gonna punish me ? Dragon : Worse, i'm calling Baba. Luffy : Nooooooo 😭 Luffy has to listen to Crocodile for 3 long hours.

Luffy might be able to avoid the lecture because he most likely doesn't have a snail phone.

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JACOBIN FICTION CONVENTION MEETING 18: DÉSIRÉE (1954)

1. The Introduction

Hello, Citizens and Neighbors! Happy New Year and welcome to the festivities here at the Jacobin Fiction Convention.

As you can see, today is a special day so I chose a topic that both our communities might be interested in so that nobody is left out. I stumbled across this movie while searching for media that tackles Frev and the Napoleonic era at the same time but can also be easily obtained. “Désirée” is available on YouTube in English, so there shouldn’t be an issue with searching it.

Consider this a gift to all of you, as in Russia we give presents for the New Year, not for Christmas.

Before we continue, I would like to dedicate this review to @tairin , @jefflion , @joachimnapoleon , @josefavomjaaga , @saintjustitude , @stalinistqueens , @idieonthishill , @theravenclawrevolutionary , @michel-feuilly , @fountain-ring , @spunkyjacobin , @donpishya , @maggiec70 , @janellefeng , @revolutionary-catboy , @revolution-and-football , @quercusfloreal , @robespapier , @suburbanbeatnik , @aminoscribbles , @edgysaintjust , @taleonne and @elisabeth515 ! Happy New Year!

Anyway, on with the review! Grab some snacks and drinks and enjoy!

2. The Summary

This movie, based on a novel by Annemarie Selinko (I haven’t read it so can’t make any judgements here), tells the story of Désirée Clary from her engagement to Napoleon Bonaparte to her becoming the wife of Marshal Bernadotte to both of them becoming rulers of Sweden.

It starts in 1794 and ends in 1815, so we do indeed have both eras tackled (technically, the Directory counts as Frev, even though our community usually begs to differ), and I find the concept of talking about Désirée Clary’s story interesting.

Let’s take a look at how this idea was executed though, shall we?

3. The Story

Unfortunately, as is the case with many movies that take place over a long time, the pacing issues are apparent and can really make things confusing due to multiple time skips, especially for those who don’t dabble in our respective eras at all and don’t know most of the people involved.

However, I do like the fact that, for an Anglophone movie, it doesn’t really have that much propaganda related to Frev.

No blood on the streets and no evil Robespierre. Désirée’s brother does say in the beginning that these days even generals are suspects, but this can be brushed off as his personal bias and isn’t that serious when it comes to propaganda.

Napoleon isn’t glorified too much either but, thank goodness, there’s no “England swoops in to save the day from devil!Napoleon” narrative either, so there’s that. Probably because the movie is American...

I also kind of like the complicated relationship between Désirée and Napoleon, although I usually hated the dynamics between exes in movies. Here the awkwardness and some possible lingering feelings, at least in my opinion, are shown in a bit more of a realistic way, so that’s good. It can be cheesy, but not too much.

4. The Characters

What isn’t good, however, is Désirée as a character. She whines, complains and slams doors like a stereotypical teenage brat when things don’t go her way and she can be really petty. For example, she deliberately stains Josephine’s dress by throwing a glass of champagne at her! I get that she is jealous and upset but to me that was not an excuse. Josephine could’ve gotten hurt! They do reconcile and Désirée does have some sympathetic moments, but I still hated her character.

As for Josephine de Beauharnais herself, for once she isn’t portrayed in a negative light. She doesn’t hold grudges against Désirée, is genuinely upset that she can’t have a child with Napoleon and heartbroken that he is divorcing her. She reconciled with Désirée and apologized to her, even though she isn’t really at fault that Napoleon called off his engagement with Désirée, at least not in this movie.

I didn’t like Napoleon. He is cold, aloof, too ambitious from the get go and thinks he is never at fault. Not a good impression, especially considering the fact that I really dislike the real Napoleon too, so maybe my personal bias played into this. I don’t know... That said, he is shown to have good intentions and wishing for peace via his conquest of Europe, so he isn’t all bad.

Bernadotte starts out a bit too pushy with his affection but later he tones that down. He readily accepts that, by becoming the heir to the Swedish throne, he will become a Lutheran and change his nationality. He is also concerned about his adopted country and his subjects first and foremost, even when Napoleon calls him a traitor for this.

Talleyrand, Theresia Tallien, F**ché and Napoleon’s sisters make cameos and, not surprisingly, the sisters are portrayed as complete bitches. Apparently that’s typical.

Oscar, Désirée’s son, only has a minor role but he is pretty adorable here.

Queen Hedwig is stern with Désirée, but she is fair and is simply trying to teach the future queen how to behave herself at court.

Julie Clary is a bit strict, but I find her dynamic with Désirée to be pretty realistic and sweet.

Okay, moving on!

5. The Acting

I think Marlon Brando as Napoleon isn’t the best casting choice. I’m not particularly familiar with his works as an actor but something just feels...off. I don’t know how to describe it, perhaps it’s just the fact that his (very particular) voice sounds too jarring for Napoleon.

Jean Simmons (Désirée) is much better, but she has a tendency to overact in her character’s hysterical scenes, which only added to my dislike of Désirée as a character.

The other actors are awesome though, especially Merle Oberon (Josephine). She just had that grace and wisdom to her in the movie.

7. The Setting

Overall, pretty good, although the hairstyles aren’t always historically accurate, but that’s a minor complaint.

The backgrounds and the costumes are much better.

8. The Conclusion

All in all, while I respect the attempt made, I don’t think it’s that good of a movie. Definitely not bad for me as I enjoyed some aspects of it but more like the kind of movie to watch once when you really need to kill time.

I can’t pass judgment on accuracy but, regardless, I suggest you watch it with your brains turned on. Maybe some of you will like it more than I did.

With that, let us conclude the last (only for this year) meeting of the Jacobin Fiction Convention. Other reviews are coming your way in the new year and I really hope you enjoy the holidays.

To my fellow Revolutionaries, may the next year being us all Liberty, Equality and Fraternity!

To the Neighbors, here’s to a fruitful collaboration between our communities as I believe that we can learn a lot from each other. I certainly have learned a lot!

Cheers and Happy New Year!🥂

- Citizen Green Pixel

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https://youtu.be/3UOep-C4ntM

@quercusfloreal , I found another video sponsored by Thermidorian propaganda.

(Thanks to @tairin for sending it to me)

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@quercusfloreal , @robespapier ? Can you help our Neighbor please?

help one unfortunate student with a deadline 🥺

i.e. help me  

If French is your native language/native language of someone you know - I will be grateful for you/your friend filling out the google form for my research. It contains sentences with gaps in them where one has to put most appropriate french verbs.

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There’s definitely less fighting than in most fandoms. And I’ve never made so many friends in the same fandom before personally!

@frevandrest , @idieonthishill , @saintjustitude , @saintjustitude , @spunkyjacobin , @robespapier , @quercusfloreal , @that-one-revolutionary , @theravenclawrevolutionary , I love you, Citizens!

Group hug?

It’s incredible that a tumblr community for something like the French Revolution has infinitely less discourse and infighting than idk kids’ cartoons and video games