#putting the mainline ones on here bc if i have to go to spinoff hell i will die ok

[sillyfudgemonkeys]

uhhh i moreso mean the folks who wanted P4D to have less plot and more waifus (aka main character waifus, which is likely why P3D/P5D were all about the main casts+the DLC packs, even if the practices were scummy) it could just be bc i hang out with more casual persona fans, but usually they either don't know/forgot P4D had a plot, or think it's non-canon since P3D/P5D aren't (The dream stuff is just a cheap way of sayin it aint canon imo)

030 Pfffftttt I’d say egg on my face, but you know, both ideas/reasons can coexist kfdslajfakjf; (edit: fyi I’m laughing at myself here, just want to make sure there’s no miscommunication DX) Yeah Atlus probably tried to go the “fluff/waifu/character exploitation” route (by exploitation, I mean just....using the chars to get people to buy the game regardless of quality), sadly either those people don’t make up a suuuuuper big part of the fanbase (like the uber lore people) or they just didn’t buy it cause it wasn’t worth it. (cause sales were abysmal compared to the rest of the franchise let’s be honest)

As for canon, if this helps. P3/5D are canon, just because they don’t remember doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Memory wipe isn’t new, P2 did it, PQ1 did it (and it played a part in the Arena games, in part that it completed a narrative and the other is that it helped make sense of how the P3/4 kids trusted each other so fast despite not knowing each other, as well as call backs/call forwards) and they all happened/weight on the franchise. Hell it ALMOST happened with P3′s ending and the Dark Hour (probably cause they were Persona users they remembered, lucky duckies). Do I think P3/5D will have a similar effect? I dunno, same with PQ2. 

Are memory wipes cheap? Yeah. Is there a good established reason in the universe? Yes, Persona users will rip the fabric of reality apart if they kept their memories (of obvie the events that involve meeting in diff timelines and stuff), because like a Chie Galactic punt or eating Aigis’ bullets.....it can happen. And this is both a good and bad thing, well if handled poorly it’s bad (the only other “bad” thing is it feeling cheap but eh). 

It’s good because it allows Atlus to explore A LOT of different ideas, try a lot of different genres, and see how different teams would interact with each other, and/or even foreshadow new events (mainline and sideline games alike). It’s bad when.......you know...they literally throw it away. The foreshadowing part remains to be seen with P5′s spinoffs, but they def don’t feel like they are exploring the potential they could be. I’m mostly aiming it at P3/5D, as much as I give PQ2 shit it is at least an attempt. *glances at P5S* you feel like a midway between P3/5D and PQ2. 

P3/5D needed to pick a lane: put a bit more story into both games, put a bit more gameplay into both games, or just say screw it and combine the two and sell them as one game. But in the end it felt like they just threw it away because they figured they could cash in on the waifu/character lovers, super lore nerds, and MAYBE rhythm game fans.....But they probably didn’t count on that the former two either aren’t that big oooooor those consumers smelled a fishy product, and the latter I don’t think Atlus has made a decent foothold in that genre to just rely on them yet. 

(.........sorry again if I missed your point again anon, and if I just went on a long rant again fdlksajfajfk;ajkf orz)