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throwingideasatthewall · 3 years ago

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Clone Wars Slaves of the Republic

Chil-dren

Children are slaves

Contin -uing on, That’s Kin da-

Narrator

(smarter than Anakin)

It hasn’t been for several years though right?

Z-y ger-i a-

Seriously you guys co -exist and have a giant council,

How did no one notice this shit?

Also if they’re Sep-ar Tist- - they have a govern -ment-

So, is this some kind of iron curtain?

Se- riously? - How?

Also why is Rex or Cody? — Okay, seriously what is up with the uniform? - Where’d you even get that from?

There’s one dude,

And if it was from like a secret stash of disguises?

Wouldn’t that be several years out of date?

Like, What? - You’re better off not doing the dis-guises

Also, geez a lot of assumptions like one extremist made a claim and now the whole planet has the burn ... Like seriously it’s in char- acter,

But this means Obi-Wan was only agreeing with her because he knows her personally

(’Her’ being Man- dal Or Ia N Duchess,’)

Those are ships

What- music-

Why?

The music is just nope,

Bor der- Ing- On- . Seriously why is he here? . What is with the clothing ?

Why?

Seriously, how is that going to fool anyone,

They’re-

I don’t like the lack of logic already in this episode,

Why?

‘you’ll be so distracted by that she won’t notice that we completely invaded her kingdom wearing the uniform (possibly 10 years out of date) of her guard and do not at all look like a species

Or anyone she hi -re -d

(And somehow won’t get stabbed to death)

Oh,

And Ahsoka,

Sl-ave

Y-eah,

Also why is she wearing face coverings?

Like, didn’t seem to be a custom?

Odd Dis guise

(I guess anything covering features would give her less of a chance of being recognized)

(Yeah but you know more about the emotions involved, And probably would be better acting at it)

Ma-ster

No,

Damn she just scorch ed his teaching

Boomers, Don’t know shit

Why is it blue?

Why is there a dragon thing? -

I don’t know Ah-soka why don’t you ask the clone you’re work -ing with, Or remember how they raised you for the sole purpose of serving their system

Fighting for it

This

Oh great did she tell you that information ?

(Instead of y’know fixing the damn problem,”

Yeah, Sucks,

Oh they actually brought that up,

Okay, I deduct that point (Slight ly,) - Invit -ation - Fair

Brig -and

Again what makes them think that this is anything more than an extremist ?

Like, how is that important?

Halt,

What,

That thi-ng, ?

Again what?

Also yeah the uniforms look significantly different?

That mean anything?

Again

Oh, so those birds are native ?

Or, Other Wise-

Se- riously what?

Not exactly how attraction works, Which I think is what they were trying to imply there,

There needed to be more of a look over- Or Him taking off his hat (For that gasp reaction,)

Also yeah a newly minted slave would totally bow, To their oppressor,

That’s something Anakin, should be doing,

Ah, did you not send from your-self? That would’ve been more of a rea-lis- tic scene for the drinks line,

Ha- tred - Yeah no this is a really bad job,

Yeah, there’s no way she’s falling for this,

‘This is he he’s cute so I’ll play along,

There’s, no other way this isn’t ending with a dagger to a neck,

Wa- rrior

Oh she’s talking about Ana -kin

Stock,

Again he literally sent you the whole population of the planet,

So, I don’t think he was that specific,

You know it’s a good thing Ahsoka’s as an adult Because this would be highly disturbing with any other alternative..

Also I guess that kind of makes sense as the shock wearing off

but she definitely wouldn’t be that wild,

Mo-

Pro-cessed

Yeah there’s no way lady is falling for this,

That’s got dragged into it temperament,

Point, It’s Not-

It’s not fitting ‘ I know you’re bull- shitting me,”

Her,

Yeah there’s no way, she’s falling for this,

(Anyone would probably have a let’s see where this leads,

This- Isn’t It-

You know this flir- ting is better than anything that happens with Padme-

Like it’s at least got the tone -right

Good

But also no

She’s significantly older than him and... toxic,

I’m going with tox -ic - Also- yeah

Anakin is definitely a lot better at this-

Ah- soka - Not even bothering with it,

Again, Why is this so much better than anything with Pad-me,

Like it’s toxic - but it holds them both accountable,

Generally a lot better writt -en

(Hopefully they were going for they don’t actually love each other they just like breaking the rul-es)

Because- I can’t see it as any -thing else Now,

(Or even then,)

Da- Mn-

W-e

Yeah dude it’s clear that she’s faking,

What’s a Hutt?

What?

Also yeah no one questioned them about their human appearance-

Why-

Ob-vious

Also, yeah what are they even doing bury-ing them alive,

Why-

Obi-Wan acts a lot more sus instead of just staying down in the pit with him under the guise of screwing with a prisoner

Also yeah I can’t blame him,

She’s an adult

Bru-tal

Tox -ic

Also, You figured out the price between you two That should be a lot more dramatic,

They’re adults.

Gi-

Also yeah no way she’s falling for that - Also yeah where did his name come from? - Like did they give an alias at some point? - Cause is Lars just seems to come out of the air-

[they told them that they knew said dude, Anakin talked with the queen but I can’t- but he didn’t mention her name-

Again this is pretty good

though the tone did drop there a little,

She’s screwing with him-

Yeah, I’d be worried about him drinking the Kool-Aid right about now too

[he already drank the Generational Overstep one ]

We-ll

P-

Holo-

What - Sl- aves - Uhm,

Sucks . . that he decided to enable that shitty system

Accoun- tability is always better,

But if he dies the system of his own making it his own fault,

- also yeah now we’re sussing out the human targets,

Ye-ah

Yeah no she’s definitely fucking with them,

Also you’re telling me they didn’t notice him from the white republic ass robes?

(Or did they just give that to him?)

Sub-mission

Yes she’s right,

Mhm, loving this ro- ast of Kenobi right now,

It’s still said by a worse enable

So not too sweet

But it hits a spot,

Any way,

Aight

Well isn’t this Anakin’s fantasy, finally his anger out on his abuser (Vent-ing)

Hm,

Yea-

O-k

Seriously that is damn light

Call-ing him a boomer

Then they’re both enabling old Gen So pretty past the redemption mark,

But, Still,

Cath,arsis is nice,

B-ack

W-h

Yeah, see she knew it was bull, shit-

D-ie

Wh-elp- - A more realistic relationship (toxic)

High - Well

(Also when did the clone get back?)

Well,

Also R2-D2 has the capabilities of a projectile launch -er - G -uard - A-i

Whe-

Whe-n?

Okay?

D-amn

A-gain

Exp-ression going a little Looney Tunes the- re-

(I should be able to read their ex- pression,”

]

How?

Did that?

She wasn’t wearing a shock collar,

And we didn’t see her gets sent to processing with that kind of thing would be implemented,

Ser-

Oof - Rex? - Freckin down,

Oof,

W-h- elp

Again emotion?

[what’s the emotion?]

W-h Oh-

I thought that was pretty neat~

Th-em

Da-mn

Also, friends, His poisonous en-abler who groomed him to be a child soldier, And someone from a younger generation, Who he groomed to be a child soldier, Great freck ‘in friends, W-

Hey, that’s some thing, Mis- s- ion .

Again has anyone been taking the mission seriously . ever? .. At any point?

Anakin‘s been hecking around with this Obi-Wan decided screw Subtlety, and went for one guy,

And Ahsoka’s been been be grud G Ing Ly - Putting up with it- ... Gen eral . . . Ser -vant - Okay the tone just went into gar- g- ,ling marbles, And the expression is neutral (at best) What the hell?

(Seriously why whenever Anakin‘s unfortunate childhood it turns into gargling marbles?

Like I can’t even tell what emotion that is

Either way it’s just not how people talk, Voice possibly getting lower, Not what th is- is

She is right - he has enabled a terrible system and continue(s - to be Obi- wan and the Council’s bitch (Non identification term,)

Power

Hey, no difference from Obi-Wan,

Great,

Here, The Boomer bait Obi-Wan gave me, Promising a place in their screwed up Future, That I traded it then Future Now Present Ahsoka ’s (Chance) at A Non- (Completely) Feck -e-d Child hood For, Thank -s

(Totally not a servant)

Despite the very conditional nature of that agreement

Also I real-ly like what they did there, Anakin not being a slave (Like he said,

Like in childhood)

Now just being a willing servant,

Really showing the Modi -cum Of Diff er en ce Be-tween Being unwittingly ordered into it, And (continued) choosing to enable it

Fri-en d-s

Well that’s better for Ahsoka than literally anything Anakin and Obi-Wan have done for her

Con-stantly putting her in harms way-

(Not giving a shit about the child soldier thing)

Great

Why?

I don’t honestly don’t get the idea behind the get up

As seen none of the other [of her species] Is wearing similar get up

Just- doesn’t add up,-

Aight

Seems- fine-

More hassle to get food and water and everything else up there to be quite honest,

Also seriously what is up with the wildlife?

Like we have the cute squishy things?

And then these?

How?

Promised

Also, That really didn’t sound too malicious ... Don’t get me wrong I think I know what they’re trying to imply,

But dude here’s suffering from Clovis syndrome,

Aka the tone just isn’t carry -ing —- There doesn’t seem to be any malician .behind what he just said,

Like dude sounded like he said “mine” as in mine for board game night,

“sk -ug,” Ok, that’s Malacian but it’s not the right kind,

That just sounds mildly offensive

Non committal

Doesn’t really connect with the tone of the previous sentence,

Which was like; ‘The queen has promised you to me how do you feel about it?’

That, just coming out of nowhere,

Not carrying

W-help

A- Ight-

Not even -consistent

Like seriously,

If you’re going to do a flat character like that;

At least try to do it consistently; Like dude went from “lust”, (I’m assuming it seems more like self- conscious/doubt) to me then off-hand Passive aggressiveness, then Disciplinary, Without so much Of a pre- empt (Not prompt,) We never saw that conscious -ness turn to aloofness, Then cold rage, pushing the button no shift, Only impromptu jump,

Shame would’ve been interesting if Ahsoka had a Clovis like friend,

(I don’t know his age,)

Again,

Re-action?

What am I supposed to feel what, emotion is that

I have no clue,

Well, Why?

[Why-

Who is this guy?

A slave owner/buy -er?

Whel-

We’ve found them

No you were brought to them -by force-

Also where is the dude that was just in a chair?

Where?

[also wow for Rex this must feel a return ho me-

Oh-but-

Okay, not gonna question it,

Jedi

- Also yeah that was the question what their education of their youth actually is like

*Groom Ing

Like the propaganda must be damn thick,

As well as the child abuse (If this is the state of society and seeing how they can see another adult human being (Sen -tient) Yeah there’s no way those kids are in good condition,

Also this dude comes off as such a doof,

Like not even remotely intim- idating- - Well, Fuck

(Also yeah I’m pretty sure the queen is going to be real fucking pleased that you just wasted a bunch of stock

Of a trade that is just getting back up and running again

Also yeah Kenobi really fucked this one up - His job to find them- Fecked that up- - Atten -tion - Worst. way to get attention ever,

You

See, they’re specifically doing this to mess with him- - De-fy

And Obi-wan was then allowed to wander off,

While dude spun the wrong way in his chair,

Wh-

Wh-at

Why?

Rom-antic ?

Lady that’s like pointing and saying you were once an abuse victim weren’t you?

Like, very likely

With the council, the clones At least two slave states (Planets)

I think the only way you could get “vagu-er” Is saying child soldier, Sl-ave

Being a slave doesn’t make you naturally virtuous,

With abusers, it makes you pissed off

Others, Ty-pica ll y Fine,

But again that’s not guaranteed,

Ex-abuse victims can still enable the abusers-

And-

[There’s just a lot of problems with this that I’m kind of gargling,]

Point being you can’t tell something like that,

And suffering doesn’t make you more virtuous,

(Just means normal human decency stand out a lot more in the darkness of degeneracy,

Any, Way,

Groom Ing

So they are actually fram- ing that it’s a bad thing,

Good, cause it is

Obi-Wan is a grooming frick

And Ahsoka is a child robb -ed of her child- hood-

By the council and implied to be by Anakin (Who did nothing and enabled it long past the point of return,)

Self-

And literally every-one else (Inc-luding the abuser as we just saw)

Self- destruction (and enabling it) is a shit time,

Be Absolutely nothing besides a toxic enabler upon a pile of rubble,

It’s damn useless,

Oh, that’s almost flirt Ing-

That’s really dramatic music for FLYING Frogs,

Stay

Again, he’s not terribly opposed to this,

-it

Again, that came out of nowhere

Like Anakin slavery hangups are the equivalent of an on and off switch

* Note, a reason. To, Slavery is bad objectif ication of other humans is bad, Don’t do it,

I called them hangups just to denote the fact that there never anything, im-portant, consistent or some thing he sticks by,

Being perfectly fine with this flirt -ing off the clock

With a sl -aver - Only occurring at random with no reuniting theme

And literally just sounds like the writers, Shou-ting- “ Hey guys remember Anakin was a slave?”

Yes and while that can cause rush-es of e-motion

None of that is shown,

We don’t see Anakin clenching his fist and it building up that resent -ment-

We don’t see him fighting the idea, that the Jedi just use him, Like his old slave master-

We don’t see any emotion,

It’s just dull

Not like an emotional dull

Like an unemotional one,

There’s not h-ing

Which is a shame because there should be a lot of emotion here-

And there’s not-

She’s Right,

And Anakin is an inhuman abomination, That can’t even manage an emotion,

(Might want to try someone else)

Really?

Because he hasn’t managed a single emotion or conflict this entire time,

Unless you mean biologically complicated in that case yes how the feck does this man work?

Adult people are very emotional, Dude can’t even manage a bit of it

- His expressions are damn atrocities

(Of logic!)

(And ,empathy)

Again Emotion,

Well I will give this episode the benefit, It’s the episode that got things the closest thing to right (Greivous’s lair, Not withstanding) In terms of tone,

Near the middle

(Before promptly coming crashing down to the ground,)

Unfortunately considering the rest of the episodes that isn’t really high praise

The thing about tone is I need to be able to understand what emotions your char-acters are feeling and being por-tray-ed in about every scene,

And, You can’t cut corners

And hav-ing switching emotional moods With out pre empt or under- standing,

Still passing the threshold of being a good story;

-Co-herent tale that can be followed

- doesn’t normalize problematic or self-destructive Behavior

However not one of a fun story;

Leaving me with the persistent fee- ling of chew- Ing metal

Mildly irritating, Clunky, And not the least bit entertaining or of any value (Much)

That it has yet to rise above

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alicethruthelookingglass · 7 years ago

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The Fan Fiction That Predicted a Big Last Jedi Storyline

An unlikely, controversial relationship didn’t seem so unlikely to a certain segment of Force Awakens viewers.

This story contains spoilers for all of The Last Jedi.

In the days before The Last Jedi opened in theaters, three Star Wars fans who go by Rosie, Ricca, and Trebia started receiving messages online from people who’d seen the film early. The gist, as Rosie described it: “How does it feel to have your fan fiction turned into a movie?”

Rosie, 28, and Ricca, 29, are the authors of Interstellar Transmissions, which on the leading fan-fiction site Archive of Our Own is the most widely read story inspired by Star Wars’s Episode VII, The Force Awakens. Trebia, 26, is the author of Forms, another popular piece of fan fiction crafted immediately after Disney’s 2015 franchise reboot. Both stories focus on the scrappy scavenger Rey and the villainous Skywalker heir Kylo Ren discovering they share a telepathic bond across the galaxy, and then teaming up to defeat Supreme Leader Snoke.

Sound familiar? The Last Jedi has the saga’s rising “good guy”—or girl, in this case—supernaturally backchanneling with its rising bad guy. Rey and Kylo build some sort of trust, and then Kylo betrays his boss, Snoke, as she hoped he would. The fact that well-read fan writers and Disney’s professional writers came up with such similar stories is, among other things, a testament to the ways Rey and Kylo Ren represent something fundamental—as well as vitally new—about Star Wars.

In the world of fan fiction, in which fans create new or alternate stories for characters and settings owned by someone else, it’s understood that if any given narrative can be imagined it will be imagined. And generally, fan fiction often centers on romance more than the original works do. But inevitably certain kinds of stories are more written-about, and read, than others. For fan fiction based off Disney’s first Star Wars movie, the works with the most “hits” on Archive of Our Own depicted dalliances between Kylo Ren and Rey, a “ship”—relationship—that fans refer to as “Reylo.” (Though by volume, the most popular pairings are same-sex love stories about Finn and Poe Dameron, and Kylo and Hux.)

The Reylo phenomenon has, in the fan world, been controversial. The mystery of Rey’s parentage—and the suspicion that she’s a Skywalker—raised the possibility that a Rey/Kylo pairing would be incest. In Episode VII, Finn seemed to be the main character pining for Rey. And there’s something obviously unsettling about setting up the saga’s new heroine with a murderous man-child who restrains and mentally violates her the first time they meet.

Now, many of the pro-Reylo fans feel vindicated, shouting “Reylo is canon” across Tumblr and other social-media platforms after The Last Jedi’s premiere. Rosie said a friend texted her to speculate that the director Rian Johnson had read her work while writing The Last Jedi. The authors, though, aren’t so sure. “I did not have the reaction, ‘Oh my god, this is Interstellar Transmissions made real,’” Rosie said. “We and the writers of the Star Wars movie came to similar conclusions based on the same evidence. We picked up some of the stuff they were laying down.” (Interstellar Transmissions and Forms are, it’s worth noting, surely not the only fan-fiction stories that anticipated parts of The Last Jedi.)

The Last Jedi of course takes many unpredicted turns, and unlike in the fan fiction there’s no explicit romance (and certainly no graphic interplanetary lovemaking) between the two characters. Still, many have read sexual tension into the film, with Exhibit A being the scene in which Rey is startled by a shirtless Kylo. “She stutters in her speech when she’s Force Skyping with him and he’s essentially sending her Force nudes,” Rosie said. “[The filmmakers] worked so hard to set up this tender, intimate physical connection between them. I would be very surprised if [the Episode IX director] J.J. Abrams did a complete 180 on that.”

Which means that online, you can find ever more viewers speculating about—or groaning at—the notion of Kylo as a sympathetic “bad boy” in a Fifty Shades of Grey–like narrative between him and Rey. In the moment after the two young Force wielders defeated Snoke’s guards, Kylo makes an overture to Rey that is, as Rosie points out, the kind of thing that a “bad teenage boyfriend” would say: “You’re nothing, but not to me.” But she rejects him, they spar, and Rey eventually closes the door of the Millennium Falcon in Kylo’s line of sight. Perhaps that’s the end of their connection, or perhaps it’s only the beginning.

Reylo’s biggest supporters don’t necessarily disagree with those who raise red flags about a relationship—romantic or merely friendly—between these two characters. When readers call Interstellar Transmissions “a beautiful love story,” Rosie said, “I keep wanting be like, ‘Honey, this is not a good, healthy romance. What we wrote is not what you should want.’”

“But then again,” her co-author Ricca added, “Star Wars is totally not about healthy relationships. There are none.”

Rosie recalled leaving The Force Awakens two years ago utterly squicked out by Kylo Ren—“he’s a fuckboy”—and utterly fascinated by Rey. Yet something about the rivalry between them stuck in her mind like “a popcorn kernel in my teeth.” Rey’s an anonymous scavenger, tortured by her inability to know her parents. Kylo is a famous scion, weighed down by the expectations of his bloodline. She has raw power and he has expertise; he told her “you need a teacher” before she beat him in combat. “They are two sides of a coin,” Rosie said.

Flipping between sides of a coin is, of course, what Star Wars is all about, from the seduction of Anakin Skywalker in Revenge of the Sith to his redemption in The Return of the Jedi. In The Last Jedi, Kylo Ren flirts with the light by betraying Snoke, and Rey flirts with the dark in connecting with Kylo and exploring the creepy cavern beneath Luke’s island. But in the end, they both seem to be on the side they started on: Rey with the Rebels, Kylo mercilessly attacking them.

Will full defection by one of them be in the trilogy’s finale? Rosie suggested that the necessary demise of Kylo’s mother Leia—played by Carrie Fisher, who died in 2016—could “kickstart” a journey to light for the darksider, given that he was unable to pull the trigger on her in this movie. Ricca pointed out that he could go the way of Vader: “Redeemed doesn’t necessarily mean survived.” Trebia added, “In the last episode of the trilogy, you always get a bittersweet ending.”

But for however elemental the interplay between Kylo and Rey seems, there is a lot that’s novel about it. Most obviously, The Last Jedi asserts that Rey’s parents are “nobody,” rather than famous somebodies from the old movies. This isn’t just a plot twist, it’s also a deeper shift. “This idea that Star Wars is only about this particular family is a huge limitation to the franchise,” Ricca said. “I like the idea that [the Force] is not the property of the Jedi and the Sith. You could be anyone and have this.” Rosie added that this democratizing development helps to encourage the same impulse that drives fandom: “One of the beautiful things about the Star Wars universe is that you can imagine yourself in that universe.”

The other remarkable factor here is Rey’s gender—rare for a hero in a saga previously dominated by male characters. This, too, informs the Reylo following. Fan fiction is, for various reasons, a largely female-driven phenomenon, which has meant for franchises that have been mostly marketed to boys—Star Warsheretofore included—it has sometimes been seen as a marginal activity. But now, women are at the center. Rosie recently came to a realization about how even the ad campaign for The Last Jedi felt new to her. “There’s all of these commercials [featuring] little girls with Darth Vader helmets running around,” she said. “That is not something I had as a Star Wars nut growing up.”

The three writers have no immediate plans to craft fan-fiction follow-ups based on the new sequel. But if any of them go for it, Ricca said, they’d be working off “some of the pull-tabs that Rian Johnson left, ostensibly for J.J. Abrams. If I decide I want one, I’ll pull on it and see where it goes.”

#This story contains spoilers for all of The Last Jedi.#ao3

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