#princess pattamika

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I feel like Pattamika is getting some unfair hate. I understand how some (western) people might be put off by her politically incorrect values: the period-accurate internalized homophobia, the corporal punishment, and just her general strictness that can seem over the top to a modern western audience.

But you have to put this into perspective. This isn't modern America, it's 1950s Thailand. 1950s Thai royalty no less. Family honor and reputation is a big deal for anyone, especially the royal family. She is under a huge amount of pressure to maintain a standard of proper behavior and raise her neice accordingly. Gay marriage simply isn't an option. She sees Pin going down the same path that brought her only pain and does what she thinks she has to.

And even then, as awful as the whole wedding arc is, she tries to find small ways to show compassion to Pin and Anin within the rigid societal framework that restricts them. She goes out of her way to let Pin keep the ring Anin gave her even if it makes insecure douchecanoe Kuea feel threatened. She doesn't personally approve of the ring and what it represents, but she's kind enough to compromise on some things to make the horrifying ordeal of comphet as bearable as possible for Anin.

Even the infamous "I want to see if you will stop breathing" line is not motivated by malice but informed by her own trauma. She had to see the woman she loved die without any of the support Pin and Anin have. She shouldn't have taken her trauma out on Pin in that moment, but it is understandable that she would see her problems as melodramatic in comparison.

What I especially love about her is how she responds when operation comphet falls apart. She doesn't double down or blame anyone else. She takes full responsibility for her mistakes and expresses admiration for Anin's bravery in openly declaring her love for another woman, something she never did in her time. She only holds off on apologizing to Pin because she is ashamed to face her after failing her.

She's a wonderful complex character, and she deserves to be appreciated, flaws and all. This is exactly the kind of complex female character we want.

She's also just really hot, guys. I'm sorry if you can't see the apeal of a dommy milf spanking a younger woman but there is beauty everywhere for those with eyes to see it.

[cocacola-or-bust]

Okay, so after the 12th episode of The Loyal Pin, I have thoughts.

So hear me out, in defence of Princess Pattamika, watching her have her blowout reaction about Anin and Pin seems rooted in the class difference rather than just blatant homophobia. While I’m sure that’s a part of it too, I truly don’t think that’s her main concern.

On the surface, it seems like Princess Patt is being a total hypocrite about this whole thing and trying to keep our gays apart, I feel like there’s more to it.

What if, in some insane and twisted way, Princess Patt feels responsible for Princess Im’s death? Going out on a full tangent, but what if, for the longest time, she’s held herself responsible for her beloved’s death? What if, in her mind, Im’s death was Patt’s price to pay for going above her reach (so to speak) and loving a high ranking member of royalty?

Her attempts, albeit very misguided and horrible, to thwart the romance between Anin and Pin, are her way of safeguarding Anin and by extension, Pin. So that she’s not devastated by her beloved’s death as Patt once was (or rather still is).

But I have to make it clear that Princess Patt’s actions cannot be justified and are totally unacceptable. She’s causing Pin inexplicable harm by all of it.

But I just thought this could be an interesting aspect to the story and the “why” of Princess Patt’s actions.

The above words are just the random ramblings of an English Literature Student. So I can’t help but weave ideas for every single piece of media that I consume. 😅

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[hallowpen]

I figured I might as well make this a little blog series, since there will be more to address in upcoming episodes.

Before we dive into the nitty gritty... I really want to acknowledge the production value of The Loyal Pin and all the hard work that went into making it. The characters, the sets, the wardrobe, the dialect... everything was an honest representation of a historically accurate period drama. The first episode was perfectly curated to establish the series' universe. I was really impressed with Becky in particular because I've been following her since GAP, and I know how much she struggled with reacquainting herself to the language when she moved back home to Thailand from New Zealand. To have the added pressure of maintaining a period accurate dialect was not easy for her. Freen has proudly commented on how hard Becky worked to really learn the script... and it shows. Well done, Bec Bec!!!

Let's Talk Thai Culture...

We'll start off by breaking down Thai Royal Language Terminology (คำราชาศัพท์)

The Savettavarit Royal House Consists of 1) His Royal Highness, The Prince Thai Royal Title: พระองค์ชาย (pronounced phra-ong chai) reserved for direct male descendants of the king

2) Her Serene Highness, Princess Alisa Thai Royal Title: หม่อมเจ้าหญิง (pronounced mom-jao ying) a non-inherited title for being the wife of a prince (abbr. M.C.)

3) His Serene Highness, Prince Anantavut Thai Royal Title: หม่อมเจ้าชาย (pronounced mom-jao chai) a title for male children of a prince, meaning secondary prince (abbr. M.C.)

4) His Serene Highness, Prince Anon Thai Royal Title: หม่อมเจ้าชาย (pronounced mom-jao chai) a title for male children of a prince, meaning secondary prince (abbr. M.C.)

5) Her Serene Highness, Princess Anilaphat Thai Royal Title: หม่อมเจ้าหญิง (pronounced mom-jao ying) a title for female children of a prince, meaning secondary princess (abbr. M.C.)

The Kasidit Noble Family Consists of 1) Her Serene Highness, Princess Pattamika Thai Royal Title: หม่อมเจ้าหญิง (pronounced mom-jao ying) a non-inherited title for being the 'adopted' sister of the prince (abbr. M.C.)

2) Lady Pilanthita Thai Noble Title: หม่อมราชวงศ์ (pronounced mom rat-cha-wong) a title assumed by 'commoner' children of หม่อมเจ้า (M.C.), meaning their ancestry can be traced back to a king (abbr. M.R.) The Common Address: You'll hear certain characters use the term ท่าน (pronounced than). It is the formal address between members of royalty/nobility to acknowledge certain members of higher rank. It essentially means "Your Highness". For example, regarding Princess Pattamika, Pin addresses her 'adoptive' mother (f.) as ท่านหญิง (than ying) and Anil refers to her 'aunt' as ท่านอา (than ah*). *อา (ah) is how one would refer to their father's younger sibling

Another term you might have heard was เพคะ (pronounced phe-kha). It is less formal and used to express familiarity. Both Prik and Lady Pin use this response to address Princess Anil as "Your Highness". Princess Alisa can also be heard using this phrase in conversation with, and to respond to, her husband.

She is considered a Noble 'Commoner', so Lady Pin would be formally addressed as คุณหญิง (khun ying) given her title. However, Pin is depicted as being more reserved and adherent to social structure. This is very telling of her social class amongst the higher ranking royal family who took her in. Pin has a lot more to lose than Anil should she stray from class expectations, and they did a wonderful job establishing that in the first episode. (I'm sure this will come into play even more as the characters age up... and I'm very much looking forward to it.)

Lower ranked servants/attendants (บ่าว - bao) can be heard using the term เจ้า (jao) to indicate their showing of respect when addressing someone of superior status.

Pronunciation and Formality: Without even knowing the Thai language, you might have noticed that the characters heavily enunciate their dialect when speaking. It's an accurate depiction of a "prim" and "proper" royal family. Even how Anil addresses her two brothers is very formal: พี่ชายรอง (meaning second eldest brother) and พี่ชายใหญ่ (meaning eldest brother). If you're going to do a period drama... this is how it's done!!!

Should we discuss the Thai dishes highlighted in this episode? ...Why not?

สองมาลีลอยแก้ว (pronounced song mali loy kaew) is a Thai dessert comprised of watermelon and mamuang dong (มะม่วงดอง - pickled mangoes). The fruit is carved into floral shapes and arranged to "float" in sugar syrup with ice, hence its name... which literally translates to 'Two Flowers Floating in Glass'.

นำ้ปลาหวาน (pronounced nam pla whan) is a Thai dipping sauce comprised of palm sugar, fermented fish sauce, shallots and chili. It's usually paired with firm and tart fruits... like green mangoes. (It's an acquired taste hehe)

The last thing I wanted to mention are Thai night markets and fairs (ตลาดกลางคืน). They are still hugely popular for social outings and, like the series has shown, are comprised of various stalls offering street food, clothes, accessories, attractions, etc. They're very popular amongst tourists, as well.

I hope this wasn't too overwhelming with information... but I just wanted to be as thorough as possible because this series is shaping up to be, what is essentially, a love letter to Thai tradition.

[lesbianposts]

basically princess pattamika this whole episode

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seeing the way princess patt shrinks in front of anin's parents when she feels like she has brought dishonor on them by making pin marry kuea. its the spitting image of pin, and I just love how the actress played that. down to the small twitches in their face, they are mother daughter. i will not stop thinking about that for so long.

just as pin pulls all the blame to herself, pattamika almost refused to believe that kuea was not her fault (it was to a degree) but like I can see where pin partially got her reflex to martyr herself

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The Loyal Pin character profiles

Princess Anilpat ‘Anil’ - She is a kind person, speaks politely, sweet, reasonable, affectionate, likes to cuddle, but sometimes arrogant and fierce like a Queen.

Lady Pilanthita ‘Pin’ - There are many personalities, depending on who she’s with. With adults, she will be neat and sweet, but with younger people or servants, she will be strict. Methodical, stubborn, but soft-hearted.

Parik - Intelligent, talkative, negotiable, foul-mouthed, bold in speaking and expressing herself.

Lady Alisa - Kind, loves her youngest daughter the most. Likes to hug and kiss her. She is fond of Lady Pin because she’s cute like a doll.

His Royal Highness - Powerful, dignified, extremely loving and kind to his youngest daughter.

Mr. Chai Kuakiat - Speaks beautifully, is flirtatious, playful, sometimes has a temper and is aggressive. Stupid and cowardly.

Thanchai Anantawut - Kind, speaks little, loves his little sister. Like the eldest daughter, he is intelligent, sensible, mature and understands the world.

Thanchai Arnon - Kind-hearted, playful, loves righteousness. Does everything according to Dhamma principles.

Chao Euang Fa - Sweet-mouthed, attentive, intelligent, courageous in expressing herself, grateful, stable in her feelings.

Chao San - Good at smiling, smooth negotiable, intelligent, kind, funny.

Lady Pattamika - Methodical, solemn, speaks little. Keeping secrets at all times.

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Princess Pattamika (The Loyal Pin): Bush or Bald?

A full shave wasn't common practice in the 1950s (and still isn't in most Asian countries), but women had started to trim around the edges as lingerie and swimwear gradually got skimpier (though the teeny bikinis of the '60s were still scandalous at this point). A proper lady like Princess Patt would clip the edge of her hedge as deftly as she clips Pin across the posterior.

Verdict: bush

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✎ Commentary of Ep 7 ~ The Loyal Pin (Thai GL-2024) - Part 1

This episode could easily be classified as the epitome of romance, but this series is so full of romance it’s hard for us single to keep up with it!

Nonetheless, this episode we have lots of gifts, romantic gesture, and lovely letters!

We knew it! It was only a dream—nightmare. Anil hasn’t left, yet.

Aren’t they cute? Pin doesn’t need medication she just needs to hug her Princess 😭

Clingy, aren’t we? AnilPin 🫵🏼

Pin demands to be fed and Anil takes on the challenge. But we knew she will and so did Pin, even if she acts surprised when Anil wiped her mouth…

Get it together you two!

Here, they “argue” about who love the other the most. Pin asks Anil to let her love her more only for this time and Anil accepts with none hesitation. She was not about to argue furthermore with her girl about that, nah-uh ☝🏼

Then we have this scene… HELP ME 😳

First, Pin states that she’s worried. Worried about all those suitors she heard are pursuing Anil. And then Anil gets back at her with a stronger—most worrisome statement…

“Hopefully, you won’t be married to Mr. Kuea when I return from England” And DAMN, is that some foreshadowing? Please say no. I refuse!

Pin immediately reassures her stating she already made herself clear to everyone (even if some annoying mister still doesn’t get the fucking hint) but she’s ✨taken✨. Thank you very much!

She even encourages Anil to do the same by offering to left her marks all over the Princess’ royal body. If that’s some sort of crime against the crown or the country that’s only for Anil to judge and she’s pretty much into it so…

The way they look at each other here should be criminalized! Stop it right now! (don’t you dare!)

“What are you waiting for” SHE SAID 🥴

Surely my death, that’s what Pin is waiting for cuz god damn… the way she looked at Anil got me gasping for air~

Then we have the night previous to Anil’s departure and it’s just so sweet. Pin confesses she’s not strong enough to see her princess off and Anil asks her to wait for her as she gently caresses her cheek and then kiss her on the forehead… They’re so soft and adorable please 🤧

The next morning Anil is convinced that Pin won’t see her off but guess what? She does!! Are we even surprised they’re gone for each other!

Pin find the strength and go see her girlfriend off. They both end up a complete mess of tears (me along with them) but at least they see each other one last time :(

Here, we have a beautiful analogy by Princess Pattamika about Anil being like the wind or something like that, I don’t remember right now but it’s beautiful and I agree, Anil's free spirit is definitely like the wind.

Here we also have Pin sending a pink flower petal to Anil and look! The petal made it to England faster than me 😭

Here we have Pranot spilling the beans on Anil’s business once again, please he’s on a mission or something, always gossiping about his bestie’s love life.

But hey! At least that made Big brother help Anil on this hard mission of dealing and rejecting so many suitors!!

Please, look at Anil’s face. She’s a menace!!

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Finally I’m able to post episode 7’s commentary. Here’s Part 2

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In a tentative exploration of an idea for a AnilPinPrik AU:

When Lady Pin found out about the ring Princess Anil had gifted her, Prik expected for her to become jealous. To demand she take the ring off and keep it with her other personal stuff instead. At the very least, she had expected the lady to 'punish' the princess and make her swear, once again, that she was only hers!

What Prik had not expected was the anger Lady Pin showed her when she had come in front of her with the ring tucked safely away back at her bed and inside her pillowcase. "My lady?" she froze, sure she hadn't just heard what she had.

Except Lady Pin, arms crossed and glower on her face, repeated what Prik had first thought she had heard. "Where is your ring?"

"What? My lady, wasn't that just for convincing Her Highness Princess Pattamika - ?"

Lady Pin's glower deepened, her glare sharpening on Prik, causing her to shrink away. "Prik! As a promised chosen by Princess Anil herself, why are you not wearing it like you should do so?"

"Eh-hhhhhhhh????"

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HOLY SHIT I'M A WEEK LATE BUT I CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!! KATREEYA I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!! PRINCESS PATTAMIKA LESBIAN TRUTHERS CONGRATULATIONS!!!

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A while ago, @queersnack had asked if I could do a rundown of the Royal Family Tree and explain the Savettavarit's relation to one another, as well as how Pin came to be involved in their family line.

So... before I get into the nitty gritty, I have a bit of a disclaimer. For some reason, the English translated version of the novel changes a lot of the ranked dynamics and familial relationships from the original Thai. I'm not entirely sure why... it could be a lack of understanding of Thai Royal Family structure or the inability to differentiate between rank and familial relationships ??? I really don't know.

The way I'm going to explain the relationships in The Loyal Pin are based off of the Thai version of the novel, as well as some of the changes that the series made.

Both Anil and Pin's lineage can be traced back to royalty. Their great great grandfathers were distant cousins who were considered to be the heads of their respective royal line. At some point within the lineage, the Kasidit royal line was dissolved. This can happen for several reasons, the most common of which is to marry further and further away from nobility... to the point where the bloodline is no longer considered to be of royal rank. So, in a sense, the Kasidit family held title in name alone and not in rank.

Princess Pattamika, given her lower status and the common practices of the time, was assigned as a caretaker for the higher sovereign princess, Princess Im. (If I remember correctly, Princess Im was the daughter of King Savettavarit and one of his consorts... but don't take my word on that.) Upon Im's passing, the King of the Savettavarit Family (Anil's grandfather) adopted Princess Patt... which instated her as a 'secondary princess' (in status) within their rankings. She essentially became the royal caretaker of the Savettavarit Palace.

When Pin's parents passed away, she was adopted by her biological aunt, Princess Patt. As a curtesy, this also bestowed her a status of nobility. But Pin holds no direct ties to the Savettavarit royal line… meaning through immediate blood relation or through bonds of marriage.

Now where it gets confusing, is how the Royal Family relates to one another in terms of rank and why they refer to Anil as Pin's aunt. Patt being Anil's father's adopted sister would technically make her Anil's aunt. However, Anil and Patt are considered to be of the same level based on their royal rankings. So if Patt is Pin's aunt... then so is Anil. Try not to think too hard about it, it'll give you a headache 🤣🤣🤣 Ignoring rank, though, any "blood" relation that Pin and Anil share is negligible at this point.

Khun Orn and her sister are considered to be high-titled 'commoners' with no royal status, BUT Khun Orn is engaged to be married to Prince Anon... which places her and her sister within the direct lineage of the Savettavarit family. And Lady Uangfah is Anil's second cousin by direct blood relation to the Savettavarit family. This is why Pin believes she cannot compete with Aon or Uangfah for Anil's affections… because she does not have any linear connections to Anil in the ways that they do.

I hope this explanation answered more questions than it raised hehe I know that it seems very complicated, and I tried to explain it as best I could through my own personal understanding.

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Hello! 👋 First of all i just wanna say, as someone who isn’t very familiar with Thai culture your explanations have been very enlightening and just give TLP another layer of depth, so thank you for posting them 🥹🙏. With that said, I was reading one of your posts that said “the social class nods are subtly woven into their interactions” and I was just wondering if you could maybe expand on that?

Hello!!! 😊😊😊 Aw... thank you!!! That actually means so much to me because this series means so much to me. I've been anticipating the adaptation of The Loyal Pin for who knows how long, at this point. I love the novel! (I own both the Thai and English versions. Though I haven't actually read the English translation yet, so I don't know how accurate it is to the original hehe) Once FreenBecky were attached, I was SOLD. Then the MOC decided to back the series and I knew how monumental this series would be, not just for Thai GL, but for Thailand in general. It makes me extremely proud to see important sapphic media, on such a large scale, originating from my home country. I could never have imagined something this grand happening just three years ago. It makes me emotional.

Before I get too in my feels, let me actually answer your question...

Just for clarification purposes, the ask is referring to my tags on this reblog of @dragonsareawesome123's gifset.

It's important to understand that Anil and Pin's whole dynamic is built around their social rankings, so it makes sense that their interactions reflect that... even if it's not entirely conscious. Anil is royalty, and because of that she is afforded certain liberties that Pin is not. Her 'mischievous' behaviors are excused and overlooked because, yes she is young, but she can also do as she pleases. She never faces any repercussions in the same way that Pin does. It's one of the perks of being a highly ranked Princess. Anil is favored in the palace because it's her home.

Pin is a guest. Yes, she holds the rank of 'nobility', but it is a title reserved for what higher ranking royalty would consider a commoner. She was afforded the privilege to live in the palace because Princess Pattamika took her in. Pin was not born into royalty. Neither was Pattamika, for that matter. Pattamika is strict with Pin, in much the same way Pin is strict with herself. Because neither of them can afford to have her fall out of line. Pin holds favor with Anil and her family, but it does not afford her the freedom to betray her social standing. If anything, it only enforces it. It makes you think...would they sill favor her if she were to go against their wishes in any way, shape, or form?

Pin is forever on the outside looking in... and she subconsciously knows it. And, in some ways, Anil subconsciously knows it as well.

"People say that it is so hard to hear Lady Pin uttering a word. As if you’re afraid something will fall out of your mouth." Anil to Pin

Unlike Anil, Pin must hold firm to palace rules.

"Why did you hit her?" "Lady Pin failed to take good care of Your Highness. She disgraced you by putting you in danger." Pattamika to Anil

"Please feel free to do as you wish. As if you would listen to me if I try to stop you." Pin to Anil

She dares not to disobey Pattamika, because she knows and understands why she'd be punished if she were to do so. And she cannot talk her way out of it, the way Anil can.

"Although she might be strict, meticulous, and strongly adherent to tradition... she loves me dearly, and continues to teach me and educate me in many things." Pin about Pattamika

"Poor Lady Pin, I really pity her. She often gets punished because of Anil."

She keeps her feelings of adoration for Anil hidden as secret treasures in her room.

She's quick to question Anil's lack of adherence to formal etiquette:

"Aren’t ladies normally supposed to [dance] with a gentleman? It would look peculiar if we do it together."

The only times she feels comfortable and gets to be herself is when Anil, for lack of a better word, 'allows' her to be. And Pin feels indebted to her because of that.

"Without you, I wouldn’t have been able to get through those lonely and miserable times. Thank you for being my friend, my home, and my everything."

So to answer Anil's question, Pin would feel incredibly lonely should Anil ever leave her... as she would no longer have an escape from society's class structure and expectations.

"With you, my life in the palace is never lonely." Pin to Anil

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idk how princess pattamika can do this to pin, i mean look at her, i just couldn't stand to watch someone i consider to be like a daughter to me hurt like this

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princess pattamika saw anin and pin being happy in love and thought "i have to stop that"

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i honestly don't get why princess pattamika wants to keep anin and pin apart, aren't you a sapphic too